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Posted by: VaderFan

Is there any answering machine application out for WM2003?

I did a search and http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=698630 found there's none but that thread is from 2005.

Are we still unlucky?

I'm waiting to find a AM software to buy an mpx220.

Thanks in advance,

-David

Posted by: VaderFan

So there is none?

Posted by: VaderFan

I don't understand that noone in this board is using an answering machine.

Posted by: Mark Kenepp

Just curious,

What advantage are you looking for in an Answering Machine App over using the voice mail provided by your mobile service provider?

Posted by: Daijoubu

It could be free?

Posted by: SHoTTa35

isn't voicemail included with all plans therefore free? LOL I am still trying to figure out why anyone would want to make such an app also.

Posted by: VaderFan

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Originally Posted by SHoTTa35

isn't voicemail included with all plans therefore free? LOL I am still trying to figure out why anyone would want to make such an app also.

To be able to screen the message they're leaving and pick up the call if I want to.

Also I want the voice messages stored in my phone, do you store your SMS in some *server-side service*?

Posted by: DereX888

not to mention that every penny paid to those greedy corporate f*cks for such simple thing as voicemail option (for which you still pay with your minutes/seconds) is already a crime against mankind.

I rather pay $10 to someone for an app on my phone, than a penny to my provider for voicemail option in my plan, and so should you.

Posted by: lubs

This is actually quite a good idea, even though I'm still looking for a Smartphone. It would save money on VM, especially considering I have unlimited incoming calls.

Posted by: foocankill

in order for an answering machine application to work it would have to make your phone answer the call. which in turn would use up your minutes.. having someone call and leave a vm on the providers end uses none of your minutes. answering machine app = cool and easy to manage messages but minute waster. unless you have unlimited incoming then disregard my post

Posted by: VaderFan

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Originally Posted by lubs

This is actually quite a good idea, even though I'm still looking for a Smartphone. It would save money on VM, especially considering I have unlimited incoming calls.

I don't get charged for incomming calls either but I do get charged for using the voicemail service so I'm not buying a smartphone if it can't run an answering machine app.

Posted by: DereX888

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Originally Posted by foocankill

in order for an answering machine application to work it would have to make your phone answer the call. which in turn would use up your minutes.. having someone call and leave a vm on the providers end uses none of your minutes. answering machine app = cool and easy to manage messages but minute waster. unless you have unlimited incoming then disregard my post

Youre wrong. Unless ofcourse you never check your VM on your provider, then you don't 'pay' for it at all (but then why have any VM at all). When you check your voicemail on your provider's server you do use your minutes. Whats worse - if you want to check your VM again you will 'pay' for it again with your minutes again and again. Having it stored on your own phone you would 'pay' for it only once when the person called you, thats all, no matter how many times you'll listen to it. Also having VM on your phone would be limited only to the capacity of your storage card (versus whatever limits your provider has - and ALL providers do have limits of message numbers, or message lengths, or both on the VMs they provide if you didn't know).
Aside of provider's VM limits, even if you have unlimited number of minutes on your plan (as previous poster does), you still have to pay monthly fee for your VM. Even if its just a $1 as a part of any 'features bundle', its $60 in 5 years. And you do plan on having cellphone all your life, don't you? Its probably a $1000 (or more) in your lifetime reaped from you by your provider just for having such basic feature as VM... think of it

$1000 here, $1000 there, and so on - and no wonder so many people are drowning in debts even if they had decent income most of their lives... but thats a big OT

Anyways;
The only drawback of having VM on your phone instead of having it on the provider's servers is that your phone will have to be always ON and within service areas (or it won't take messages apparently). But considering 99% of us have our phones always on, I don't think thats really any problem at all. If such answering machine would be combined with some sort of fax answering - it would be an instant hit among most business smartphone users... so - is anyone out there who wants to write it? I can help too

Posted by: KillerMobile

Another benefit to having an on-device answering machine is it allows you custom response types, such as having personalized greetings for each caller (based on caller ID) or allowing you to autorespond to a missed call, or filter a call.

We're currently in the Research phase of porting over our AutoPilot application from Symbian (S60) to WM5 (PPC first then Smartphone). The only major possible holdup is that there appears (so far anyways) to not be a consistent method of recording the active call line. On some devices it's not a problem, on other's it is. We're searching for a bulletproof method of achieving this and we'll move onto writing the code.

Posted by: genaldar

T-Mobile doesn't charge minutes for calling your vm, since esentially you're just calling a T-Mobile number (your own). Of course if it's that big of a deal just call your phone from a land line and hit star once your voicemail picks up then enter your code. That way you can check your voicemail without using any minutes.

Posted by: DereX888

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Originally Posted by genaldar

T-Mobile doesn't charge minutes for calling your vm, since esentially you're just calling a T-Mobile number (your own). Of course if it's that big of a deal just call your phone from a land line and hit star once your voicemail picks up then enter your code. That way you can check your voicemail without using any minutes.

Does it really matter?
Do you really think there are no other providers than T-Mobile in the world?
Im sure not all of them have VM cheap/free/etc

Posted by: VaderFan

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Originally Posted by KillerMobile

Another benefit to having an on-device answering machine is it allows you custom response types, such as having personalized greetings for each caller (based on caller ID) or allowing you to autorespond to a missed call, or filter a call.

We're currently in the Research phase of porting over our AutoPilot application from Symbian (S60) to WM5 (PPC first then Smartphone). The only major possible holdup is that there appears (so far anyways) to not be a consistent method of recording the active call line. On some devices it's not a problem, on other's it is. We're searching for a bulletproof method of achieving this and we'll move onto writing the code.

I have been checking your web for the last weeks waiting for good news on the release of the AutoPilot for WM, now I understand it's not that easy that it will happen.

Have you considered releasing a WM2003 version? Or is it not possible at all?

Thanks.

Posted by: KillerMobile

No, we won't even try releasing a WM2003 version, it'll be WM5 only. And yes, it's definitely not as easy as it looks, but I think we'll be able to pull it off.

Posted by: genaldar

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Originally Posted by DereX888

Does it really matter?
Do you really think there are no other providers than T-Mobile in the world?
Im sure not all of them have VM cheap/free/etc

First off why the hell are you getting mad at me? It's not my fault your provider rapes you for every minute they can. I simply pointed out that not all providers do that. I also pointed out how everyone else can check theirs for free, you know the part where I explain about calling your phone from a landline, it works on most providers (the button to access the password entrance phase may be different). See not only am I aware of other providers but I attempt to be helpful.

Heres more helpful advice, if you hate your provider get a new one.

Posted by: DereX888

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Originally Posted by genaldar

I have VM for free, and I don't hate my provider.
Unless you have unlimited calls on your plan, you still have to pay *twice* with your minutes for each voicemail received and listened to, regardless do you check your VM from your mobile or from your home phone.
Unless your provider doesn't charge you for calls originated from specific numbers (i.e. your home number) or you got VM for free, or you have any other *plan-specific* discounts, freebies or rebates, which again doesn't matter since it would be your plan / your provider (and this is not provider-specific forum) thus its not helpful, and a misinformation as well.
This discussion is not about ME, nor it isn't about YOU either, its about Answering Machine for WM 2003 smartphones, dont you get it?

Posted by: genaldar

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Originally Posted by DereX888

If you don't answer your phone you shouldn't get charged any minutes for people leaving a voicemail. No one I know, on any network, gets charged minutes for not answering their phone. Which means that checking your voicemail from a landline is free. If your company charges you minutes when you don't answer the phone, your company sucks.

I get that this is about answering machine for mobile, I was simply pointing out that for most people on this board they don't have to use an answering machine program to check their voicemail for free. In fact for most of us the answering machine would cost minutes (since it would have to pick up to record it) as opposed to saving us minutes. I guess constructive criticism isn't allowed?

btw I never tried to make this provider specific, I just pointed out how my provider does it. It also happens to be how all the large carriers in the US do it. But I'm sure now you'll be upset that I'm trying to make this country specific.

Posted by: VaderFan

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Originally Posted by genaldar

Every CSP here charges you when you get a call from a payphone, doesn't matter if you pick it up of the voicemail picks it up. And you also get charged when you check your voicemail, from your celly or from a landline because we have CPP (calling party pays) here (in most cases is more expensive to check the voicemail from a landline).

So the only way not to get charged when you get into your voicemail is to use a software based answering machine, every other option is more expensive, that's why I used my v3620 for many years when everybody was on digital phones already and now I'm stuck with my AV CDM-8600 (which has a built in answering machine).