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Posted by: Dishe

My freinds all love my smartphone's size, and how it can do all the PPC stuff without a delicate touchscreen.
However, most of them are stuck with CDMA providors (Verizon and Sprint) becuase of reception issues with GSM where I live. I tried looking for a phone for them, but apparently CDMA hasn't had a smartphone is a REALLY long time!
The Moto Q doesn't count because it doesn't have the phone form factor, but rather more of a blackberry/PDA one.

How come there aren't any CDMA phone-style Smartphones? Samsung made the i600 flip, but that thing is ancient already.
Are they doomed to have clunky devices if they're on CDMA?



Posted by: Bugwart

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dishe
My freinds all love my smartphone's size, and how it can do all the PPC stuff without a delicate touchscreen.
However, most of them are stuck with CDMA providors (Verizon and Sprint) becuase of reception issues with GSM where I live. I tried looking for a phone for them, but apparently CDMA hasn't had a smartphone is a REALLY long time!
The Moto Q doesn't count because it doesn't have the phone form factor, but rather more of a blackberry/PDA one.

How come there aren't any CDMA phone-style Smartphones? Samsung made the i600 flip, but that thing is ancient already.
Are they doomed to have clunky devices if they're on CDMA?

It appears that you have come up with a new and unique definition of "smartphone". Thus you have answered your own question.



Posted by: CeluGeek

There were rumors of a Pantech clamshell coming to Verizon, but I don't know if that is still the case or not. There is an upcoming HTC candybar smartphone with sliding QWERTY keypad, but I haven't heard of a carrier picking it up yet.



Posted by: mobilegruven

It's all about market share! World wide, almost 2 billion people have a GSM phone whereas only 300 million use CDMA. About 10 to 1.

Also, a CDMA phone is more closely tied to the carrier where for the most part, a GSM phone can be used on almost any GSM carrier by sliding in their SIM chip.



Posted by: Dishe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugwart
It appears that you have come up with a new and unique definition of "smartphone". Thus you have answered your own question.

Not really, I was just referring to the common depiction of it.

Hey, look, most people I speak to agree with me that there aren't any CDMA smartphones since the Samsung i600. No one even thinks of the Q as a smartphone, its as if the Q is its' own entity. For example when it comes to software, you'll find versions for Pocket PC, Smartphone, and then Q- its like their own category.

I wrote this post, and then realized only later that I forgot the Q is technically a smartphone, so instead of everyone pointing that out, I added that line in.

Let's be honest, smartphones have been virtually non-existant on CDMA before moto released the Q, while gsm has had tons of em... and now that the Q is out, its the most unique smartphone of them all, sharing the fewest similarities to what the common smartphone would be. Therefore, my original statement still stands... my friends shouldn't have to switch to T-mobile or Cingular just to get Windows Mobile device like mine: shaped like a phone.

Thank you to everyone else who actually gave me REAL and helpful responses!



Posted by: holdenmichael

The HTC Libra is the CDMA smartphone that someone referred to earlier in this thread.



Posted by: Dishe

interesting... that looks like a touchscreen, though...
anyone confirm that this is a smartphone and NOT a PPC?



Posted by: holdenmichael

Take a look at this thread.

It's definitely a smartphone.



Posted by: Bugwart

Quote:
Originally Posted by mobilegruven
It's all about market share! World wide, almost 2 billion people have a GSM phone whereas only 300 million use CDMA. About 10 to 1.

Also, a CDMA phone is more closely tied to the carrier where for the most part, a GSM phone can be used on almost any GSM carrier by sliding in their SIM chip.

Your comment has absolutely no relevence to this thread.
Market share is about volume. innovative products are all about the local markets. Some of the most innovative smarts phones available in the US are made by HTC in both CDMA and wCDMA models.



Posted by: CeluGeek

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dishe
interesting... that looks like a touchscreen, though...
anyone confirm that this is a smartphone and NOT a PPC?

It's a smartphone. HTC (or was it UTStarcom) photoshopped the simulated screen image using a Pocket PC screenshot. The keypad fits the MS Smartphone requirements (including the Home and Back keys never used on a Pocket PC), and the smaller sliding QWERTY keyboard fits the candybar phone factor (ala LG F9100) - it isn't the "full" keyboard you'd expect on a PDA.



Posted by: TruBlu01

Isn't there a Nextel flip smartphone? Does it not work with sprint?



Posted by: brockley

The only smartphones that I know of for Sprint are the new Samsung i800 and the Treo 700wx/p. There is the PPC 6700(?) phone but it is older.



Posted by: Dishe

Quote:
Originally Posted by brockley
The only smartphones that I know of for Sprint are the new Samsung i800 and the Treo 700wx/p. There is the PPC 6700(?) phone but it is older.


Funny, none of those are real "smartphones", at least not in Windows Mobile's definition of the term.
Those are PPC phones.
Smartphones resemble a phone more.





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