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Reporting Illegal Drug Use
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Posted by: BroPhone

I don't know why this bothers me so much, but it has become painfully obvious that several of my co-workers are major stoners. Cingular, of course, has a strict anti-drug policy that can consist of random drug tests. I'm not here to argue for or against the use of marijuana, but for the sake of work conduct and policy, I believe it should be upheld. That being said, does anyone think it would be a bad idea to contact HR to request a surprise drug test of my fellow co-workers and get their irresponsible *sses booted out?

I just can't see how a company can hold that strictly to every other policy and turn their attention away from such blatant misconduct. my 2 cents.

-Sam

Posted by: Closethesale

i have been in this situation, and i just left it to management, you have the right to want to work in a drug free workplace,but i never wanted to be resposible for others losing thier jobs.

Posted by: Cingular_agent

I think it is a Bit$h move to narc on your fellow employees! get over it and just worry about yourself.

Posted by: nskgti23

Unless they are smoking at work, you have NO GROUNDS to report anything. Even then, it sucks that you concern yourself with what others are doing. Unless it directly impacts your life, you shouldn't worry about it.

Posted by: aaadock

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Originally Posted by Cingular_agent

I think it is a Bit$h move to narc on your fellow employees! get over it and just worry about yourself.

wow . just wanted to quote that ..

its a B**** move to "narc" on your employees ... but its "ok" to come to work stoned... hmm ok..

Posted by: mentalcase

Hey if your fellow workers come to work stoned, that means more opps for you. Get over it! This thread reminds me of freaking middle school.

Posted by: CA

Personally I don't like working with people that are or get high, they tend to put their work responsibilities on others so I fire them....fast!

But, as a side note, while they are off in la la land it's more commission for you.

As an employee I don't think being a rat is in you're best interest, it will affect you at work, but feel free to tweak them any time the mood moves you.

Posted by: elushon

Personally, if they're getting high and coming into work I'd just laugh at them. Because seriously it isn't anything more than more chances for you to get their money.

Posted by: Ralph714(2)

Is there something that they/him/her are doing/done to make you feel upset/offended/disrespected ? If so, Do you think reporting them for Drug Use is the easy way to fix your personal experience at your workplace ?

Sometimes reporting co-workers for thier bad choices at work and "NOT AT WORK" are the easy ways to get rid of them.

Everyone I work with knows Im straight up about everything. The same way I know they are straight up with me.

Ever thought about a transfer ?

Posted by: Infornography

If they're coming to work stoned, and it's affecting their performance, report em to the ethics line. Yea yea , I hear you all going, "Why? It's not bothering you." Well, a couple of things, this is a business. You go to work to help said business and get paid. If you want to get high off your *** do it at home, on your day off. Don't come to work stoned or have it PAINFULLY obvious you're abusing drugs. If their performance or lackluster thereof affects you then you BETTER report em. ie. They're high. So they get sent home before a customer reports the entire store to corporate. And all your asses are hung out to dry. And because of which you have to go to work on your day off. And yes, i'm speaking from experience. Crap like that shouldn't happen.

BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST THE REASON WHY YOU SHOULD GET THEIR ASSES TO WORKING SOMEWHERE ELSE: "IF I HAVE TO COME TO WORK AND DEAL WITH ANGRY CUSTOMERS WITHOUT THE HELP OF NARCOTICS THEN YOU HAVE TO AS WELL. God knows I've thought about it on somedays, like when OPUS doesn't work or the network ***** out, but I don't." ./End Rant.

Posted by: Soopafly

Don't be a snitch. They'll get their due...

Posted by: SuxBeingU

Just remeber doing the right thing is not always the popular choice.

Posted by: Wiggum

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Originally Posted by BroPhone

I don't know why this bothers me so much, but it has become painfully obvious that several of my co-workers are major stoners. Cingular, of course, has a strict anti-drug policy that can consist of random drug tests. I'm not here to argue for or against the use of marijuana, but for the sake of work conduct and policy, I believe it should be upheld. That being said, does anyone think it would be a bad idea to contact HR to request a surprise drug test of my fellow co-workers and get their irresponsible *sses booted out?

I just can't see how a company can hold that strictly to every other policy and turn their attention away from such blatant misconduct. my 2 cents.

-Sam

just coming to work high, that's it?

i have co-workers, present and past, that go get high on the clock. i have co-workers, present and past, that drink in company buildings.

do i like it? no, not one bit, but you have to pick and choose your battles.

the likelyhood of HR doing a random drug test on a co-worker probably carries that same odds of you being made VP of whatever market you are in when you arrive to work tomorrow.

the really *****ty thing is that you could go to HR and likely nothing will happen except to draw attention to yourself, but if they got busted and fired and HR found out you knew about it the whole time, your butt would probably be looking for a job like them.

Posted by: kilowatt

the stoners are probably out selling you...quit whining and mind your own business.

Posted by: VMV702

the real question is: IS IT AFFECTING YOU AT WORK???

If not and its just the fact that you KNOW they do it, then don't put your nose where it doesn't belong...Now if they're mistreating customers, messing up, smelling up the store etc then that's a different story. But just because you "know they're stoners" WHO CARES...Spend more time getting sales and less worrying about your co-workers

Posted by: swe-dogg

In my professionally opinion, if its only weed and cocaine use, take it with ease, but if its anything more serious try talking to them that selling cell phones might not be in their best interest. Maybe look up help would be wiser. I know personally a cellphone store in San Francisco Bay Area that one of the employees, who happens to smoke quite much, are having Oz's in the car and on occasion sell during lunch and other breaks. But then again, Northern california is more liberal than the rest of the country. And the best part, the representative of the house is from SF, so hopefully we can turn the rest of the country more liberal

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by swe-dogg

In my professionally opinion, if its only weed and cocaine use, take it with ease, but if its anything more serious try talking to them that selling cell phones might not be in their best interest. Maybe look up help would be wiser. I know personally a cellphone store in San Francisco Bay Area that one of the employees, who happens to smoke quite much, are having Oz's in the car and on occasion sell during lunch and other breaks. But then again, Northern california is more liberal than the rest of the country. And the best part, the representative of the house is from SF, so hopefully we can turn the rest of the country more liberal

Wow, i'm glad you're in the minority. Most people don't use drugs(weed and cocaine) and I hope California isn't the drug haven you depict. Hopefully the young change before they inherit the world!

"In my professionally opinion" reminds me of "I didn't have sex with that girl" or "read my lips... no new taxes"

Posted by: cingtony

The leader of the state can't even pronounce California ... you do the math. The young have alreay bled their parents dry so there's nothing left to inherit.

Posted by: cingtd

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Originally Posted by Sonix

Personally I don't like working with people that are or get high, they tend to put their work responsibilities on others so I fire them....fast!

But, as a side note, while they are off in la la land it's more commission for you.

As an employee I don't think being a rat is in you're best interest, it will affect you at work, but feel free to tweak them any time the mood moves you.

Which device is pictured in your post?

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by cingtd

Which device is pictured in your post?

Quote:

Samsung SPH-P900 Deluxe MITs Unveiled.

But this one is HSDPA! And Samsung has one too.

Posted by: GDH

If they're baked at work, you should at least talk to them about keeping it at home. Home is home. But performance at work affects everybody. That being said, if you notice it, management probably does as well, so there's most likely no need to inform them.

And NoCal isn't that liberal. This is America after all.

Posted by: blessd24

Report em. Shoot, I would have my co workers fired for smoking if I could. (joking...sort of) I hate that kind of crap, its just ignorant if nothing else.

Posted by: nave462000

imagine any other job, these people would obviously be fired and they deserve to be.

Posted by: shorty28

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Originally Posted by kilowatt

the stoners are probably out selling you...quit whining and mind your own business.

i'd second that notion. i'm not a stoner or anything, but i think u gotta be high sometimes to deal with these crazy a** customers. also, when u r high, u r relaxed and when u r relaxed u have a tendency to sell better. kudos to stoners. plus, we need the comic relief at work.

Posted by: glenn02

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I'm not going to read everyone else comments because I'm on a blackberry, but I would like to say that if it's really affecting you and your job at cingular than do what you feel is right, but if their sales are slacking and it's you who's doing better because of it.. You are the one making out.

Posted by: gammite

if they are smoking or using at work i would bust on them.

it they are not smoking at work i would mind my business.

Posted by: jujudaking

I agree with alot of people here. Is them smoking have any noticable effect on their performance or the work atmosphere? Most of the time stoners slowly become less and less confrontational so it might actually work out for you since you will most likely be in a position to earn more commission.
You never want to be known as that type of person anyways, because if somehow they find out it was you, i guarandamntee you that other workers will treat you differently and you will slowly be nudged out of the inner circle of the other employees.
Finally you dont want to make somoene loose their job, if you really have such a big problem with it i suggest you approach them individually and maybe say "hey i have noticed you guys coming in stoned, i dont care what you do in your personal life, just dont bring it to work." That should be sufficient.

Remember dont ever jump the gun without carefully analyzing all the consecuences to your possible decision.

Posted by: gammite

also,

i don't think that he is making out. i think that the fact that they show up to work stoned makes it more likely that he gets more than his fair share of b.s. customers. when i was at retail i had some lazy co-workers. part of the reason that i got burned out so quick was because for every activation i got i had to deal with 5-6 azz holes.

more money, more problems....

Posted by: gammite

i halfway agree with juju.

don't ever be a snitch unless it is something that you ABSOLUTELY for the safety of the store have snitch about.

that would for me include stealing, smoking at work, threats at work, etc.

otherwise, don't be a snitch.

Posted by: pipmaster1971

If they're stoned (or drunk) at work, and if it's effecting your worklife then report them. If it's not effecting your worklife, but they're still stoned or drunk at work, personally I wouldn't report them --- it could make your life at work sucky if anyone found out you snitched them out.

If it's something they're doing at home, and not bringing it to work in any way, then frankly you should mind your own business.

Posted by: CrazyKaks

personally I feel that you shouldn't report them unless they are coming to work "stoned" or "high" and causing more work for yourself or others that don't abuse drugs. But at the same side if they can come to work "high" and perform just as well if not better then yourself don't hate on them because they are better then you. It's just a matter of if your doing it cause your jealous they are a better salesperson then you or is that they are causing "stress" and more work on yourself. Cause if their numbers are better then yours and they come to work "stoned" don't be mad. Maybe that helps them do their job better. I don't see how corp. would fire everyone as long as you know you can past the drug test what are you stressin over?

Posted by: jhardin1

Cingular's quidlines say it is a violation of the ethical code of conduct to come to work while under the influence of illegal substances, as well as not use illegal substances while on Cingular property, so even if the person consumed, used, smoked the substance outside of the workplace, he or she can still be in violation of the conduct code if he or she is still 'high' while at work. If he or she is , you are required to report it. What would probably happen is that person would be ask to submit to a drug test.

Posted by: gammite

there are a number of shades of grey with any form of a code of conduct or form of bylaws with any organization jhardin.

so realistically what would you do?

Posted by: jhardin1

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Originally Posted by gammite

there are a number of shades of grey with any form of a code of conduct or form of bylaws with any organization jhardin.

so realistically what would you do?

I don't see any shades of grey when it come to the use of illegal substances. Cingular's code of conduct is clear. If I was confortable with talking to my manager, I would do so, If not I would talk to the ethics line.

Posted by: Turbos15

You're definatly gonna get your tires flatted or car key..... Beatdown... Something of that sort...Never snitch.....It always causes trouble.

Posted by: jhardin1

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Originally Posted by Turbos15

You're definatly gonna get your tires flatted or car key..... Beatdown... Something of that sort...Never snitch.....It always causes trouble.

ha! I know I don't live in a perfect world, and I know there are people out there who often choose to look the other way, I simply choose not to. As I see it, Cingular is very clear as to what is or is not acceptable behavior, any employee also has a choice to work for the company and go by those rules of behavior, or go work some place other than Cingular. No one forces someone to choose to partake of an illegal substance, they do it by choice and thus should be mature enough to accept the consiquences of that choice.

Posted by: Prometheus2k2

One Word:

Karma.

What goes around comes around, don't worry about what other people are doing unless it directly affects you.

One Love,
Prom

Posted by: thechosenway

The big question is "is it affecting the company" if so then maybe you should go to ethics. Now on the other hand your gonna be looked at as a Rat which is what you are if you Narc. In some states Marijuana is legal for medicinal reasons.

Posted by: CA

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Originally Posted by thechosenway

The big question is "is it affecting the company" if so then maybe you should go to ethics. Now on the other hand your gonna be looked at as a Rat which is what you are if you Narc. In some states Marijuana is legal for medicinal reasons.

Are you high.

Posted by: gammite

i am well over the legal age and i don't smoke anything or drink. i never have and i don't plan to start.

but with that said, a snitch is a snitch is a snitch. i am no rat.

but that columbine example was totally off base. if i knew that my coworker was coming to work armed every day his *** is O-U-T. that is effecting my safety.

had i known about them columbine clowns, they would have been buried under the jail because i would have sung like a jaybird.

but those situations would have effected me.

the stupid fool that wants to kill his health drinking and getting high does not effect me. if anything i would pawn off all of the c.s issues and go phone pay as you go's on them and keep moving.

Posted by: Trakstar99

Okay, just coming into the conversation as a newbie to the forum, but also as a law student. Firstly, the arguements that your making about ratting out people are pointless, as federal law and cingular policy states that you have the RIGHT to work in a drug-free enviroment, regardless of what other people are doing; if its affecting you have a right to report it. Secondly, I would just use the confidental ethics line to report the matter to Cingular, by their own policy they should take it from there and investigate it. I know when I used to work for a previous company, someone called the ethics line on employees who were thought to be on drugs, and the company made them do a random drug screen; it's both in your work agreement you signed and in the union contract I believe.

Posted by: CA

Good for you, on point!

Posted by: VMV702

wow man u sound like a real Dwight Schrute...

"umm yes excuse me , Cingular policy says..."

give me a break

Posted by: I have a phone

this thread made me go roll another

Posted by: SoCal91302

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Originally Posted by BroPhone

While you are at it, why not report people breaking company policy and selling gophones to post paid accounts? Start with this guy... http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...567#post8066567

Posted by: SuxBeingU

Do We Have An Update ?

Posted by: johnmsteiner

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Originally Posted by SoCal91302

While you are at it, why not report people breaking company policy and selling gophones to post paid accounts? Start with this guy... http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...567#post8066567

Yes... why don't we? Policy is policy. Period. Don't like the policies? Nobody is holding a gun to your head making you continue to work at Cingular. (unless your coworkers are packing heat

) But seriously, it is not up to the employees to decide which policy we want to follow and which we don't. As soon as you start breaking one you'll break another. Did I mention I caught my employees selling GoPhones to PostPaid accounts and let them all know if there was one more they'd be fired? I don't like getting paid off of false numbers, nor do I like breaking policy to get there. Needless to say customers that don't like it go to Wal-Mart or Radio Shack to get their new "GoPhone".

The point is... well I'm half lost at the point because of all the ignorant posts in this thread. Seriously people, if someone comes to work high they ARE affecting business. Customers aren't always as dumb as we think, they pick up on this stuff. Besides what is bad for Cingular's business is bad for us. There is a reason we get paid 25% on the free features versus 100% as we used to. People we slamming and taking them off within 30 days for the customer. That is not what they were for, and now we make less as a result. It's the same reason we do not add a data package to a customer and tell them to remove it next month to save $20.00 on their phone. They aren't going to use the package? Then pay the extra $20.00 and be done with it.

Do I sound too "by the book" for some of you? Good. There has to be some honest employees out there in this world that actually care about their company and not just their own paycheck.

Posted by: spiritofseth

Yah I think its dumb that they smoke at work or right before work, but most likely they will underperform their way out. if they have great performance than they should just be left alone. its never tnice to be the cause of misery in someone elses life, let them do it to themselves.