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SOLVED: How to tether BlackJack over Bluetooth
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Posted by: thinlyveiled

Okay, I've finally figured out how to tether your BlackJack to a PC (or any device supporting the PAN profile) over Bluetooth. (I'm actually posting this over my BT connection!)

You will need the following:

1) A BlackJack (Samsung i607)
2) A data plan, unless you want to quickly go bankrupt :-)
3) A Bluetooth adapter
4) Windows XP SP2's Bluetooth stack (others may work, not tested yet)

Step 1: Pair the computer and your Blackjack using steps discussed in the manual.

Step 2: Launch the "Internet Sharing" application on your BlackJack. It can be found in the \Windows folder. (To locate it: Start -> Applications -> File Explorer -> \Windows -> Internet Sharing)

Step 3: Choose "Bluetooth PAN" as the PC connection, and "MEdia Net" as the network connection

Step 4: Hit "Connect" (left soft key)

Step 5: On the PC, go to Start > Network Connections. Click on the "Bluetooth network connection" icon. Choose your BlackJack, and hit Connect.

Voila!

Posted by: john1027

Thanks - I went onto the cd that came with the BJ today to get the manual onto my pc. When I did I looked at the extra programs that were on the cd. One is a program is described as enabling the device to be used as a modem. I didn't have time to take a look at it yet.

Posted by: thinlyveiled

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1027

Thanks - I went onto the cd that came with the BJ today to get the manual onto my pc. When I did I looked at the extra programs that were on the cd. One is a program is described as enabling the device to be used as a modem. I didn't have time to take a look at it yet.

Oh, that's a USB driver. That's for tethering over a USB cable via a simulated dialup connection. You don't need it to tether over Bluetooth.

Posted by: john1027

Roger - saved me from going back and looking harder!

Posted by: aaadock

outstanding..

how does that 2.0 EDR measure up as far as speed testS?

i have a 2.0 edr bluetooth dongle.. taht i bought just for this!!

Posted by: HectorV

Now it would be great if someone could figure out how to get this DUN working with a MAC...

Posted by: thinlyveiled

Just tested with the PAN client in the IVT BlueSoleil stack (v2.3 060728). Works fine. Throughput is around 350kbps with my Thinkpad builtin 1.0 USB device.

Posted by: thinlyveiled

Quote:

Originally Posted by HectorV

Now it would be great if someone could figure out how to get this DUN working with a MAC...

Won't happen until Apple adds PAN profile support to the Bluetooth stack in OS X. Maybe it's in the works for 10.5? We won't know until it's released.

Posted by: jpbadonk

Awesome. Just set it up and is working like a champ. Any idea (still new to WM5) how to make it easier to navigate to the "Internet Sharing" application? Can I make a shortcut or something?

Posted by: novasbc

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpbadonk

Awesome. Just set it up and is working like a champ. Any idea (still new to WM5) how to make it easier to navigate to the "Internet Sharing" application? Can I make a shortcut or something?

Through activsync, explore your device. Go to \Windows, and you can right click the file for Internet Sharing, and make a shortcut. Or, you might be able to hit copy, and then go to your start menu, and copy as shortcut.

Mark

Posted by: HectorV

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinlyveiled

Won't happen until Apple adds PAN profile support to the Bluetooth stack in OS X. Maybe it's in the works for 10.5? We won't know until it's released.

What about using the Blackjack as a modem using the USB cable, is it possible?

Posted by: mindflayer

It's just a shame it won't work on the Mac.

Posted by: rfelix

thinlyveiled-

You are the man!

For all you fellow Mac users out there, I had a thought and am attempting to work through it... VMWare Fusion runs on the new Intel Macs (with full Bluetooth support), and Bluetooth pairing works with Windows, so I'm attempting to install WinXP on a VM, get that paired with my BJ and then share the internet connection with my Mac. I'm desperate to get it working within OSX on my MacBook Pro, as that's where I do most of my work on the road.

Does anyone have any suggestions about using Internet Connection Sharing in Windows? Any other ideas I might not have thought of?

Posted by: tremcotexas

Thanks so much!!! I was going crazy not being able to tether! I wish there was a shortcut on the phone for this! Again, Thanks SOOO MUCH!!! I am in love with this phone!!! I will probably be e-baying the jasjam!

Posted by: xbox360gamer

thread bookmarked. thanks a bunch!

Posted by: thoughtdude

For those looking for Mac connectivity (granted through USB vs Bluetooth - hey it's something)...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1047106

I haven't had a chance to try it (on my work Dell), but sounds good.

Posted by: tiptoekirk

I keep getting an error, while connecting on the computer side, "The connection with the bluetooth network device failed. Please consult the documentation for the device for more information on how to resolve this issue."

Well the only documentation I have right now is online feedback from this forum, anyone able to give me a clue why it is not working?

Posted by: gaznick

Would it be faster if you go through USB vs Bluetooth??

btw: Thanks very much for posting how to connect... worked great!

Posted by: taveanator

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiptoekirk

I keep getting an error, while connecting on the computer side, "The connection with the bluetooth network device failed. Please consult the documentation for the device for more information on how to resolve this issue."

Well the only documentation I have right now is online feedback from this forum, anyone able to give me a clue why it is not working?

If you PC can see the phone via BT but can't connect make sure that ICS is, in fact, enabled on your phone. I had the same error and some how ICS had stopped itself.

-T

Posted by: novasbc

I don't know if its because of Vista, or x64, but I cannot get my OS to detect the PAN device, using the stock Bluetooth drivers for my USB Airnet 2.0 card.

I have it paired, but it never sees a PAN enabled device.

PAN Window Screenshot

Blackjack Services

Mark

Posted by: emcdemc

I have the same PAN issue. The devices see each other, they just don't see each other under the PAN "search." I wonder if cingular disabled something in registry?

Posted by: jpbadonk

Quote:

Originally Posted by emcdemc

I have the same PAN issue. The devices see each other, they just don't see each other under the PAN "search." I wonder if cingular disabled something in registry?

I don't see any services when scanning the device from BT, but in the BT menu on the taskbar there's a 'Join a Personal Area Network' option.

Posted by: Quatre

could tether through bt fine on the Q and that was one my concerns when switchin from the Q to the blackjack. I will try this soon.

will my Asus v6j laptop with built in bt work with the bj for tethering as my Q did? or will i need some extra bt stack?

Posted by: Quatre

the bt wont connect with my laptop. it says "your smartphone did not conect with the auss v6j. the connection failed or the passcode is incorrect. would you like to try again?

i tried 00000000 (eight 0's) and it didnt 'work neither did 1234 or 0000 which did on the Q.

wtf

what does it say in themanual. where is hte manual? on the cd?

edit: got it now with 1234. it had to pop up on the laptop also to input that then it found eachother

Posted by: Quatre

got it working. thank you to the original op.

had to add a new connection in the bluetooth manager on laptop and it found it as i607 and connected.

does the phone have to stay on that internet sharing screen or can you do other stuff on it?

only getting 106kbps though and 71 upload.

also when connected it seems to turn on the screen of the backjack randomly sometimes when you do something on the connected laptop like go to a new page on the browser. this could be a problem for the battery life of the blackjack when tethering if it keeps waking up the backlight of the screen.

Posted by: Quatre

there is ppl on dslpreports.com under domain mycingular.net getting 1067 kbps dl though. some getting even lower then i did though. must not even have edge signal. i hope i have 3g signal down the shore in AC, Ventnor, margate NJ to tether where i really need it. dont have 3g at home but have it all around me as soon as i leave my neighborhood and dont need it at home really as i have wifi and can use my 8525 .

Posted by: Quatre

hm it says its connected at 3.0mbps where as when you tether with the Q through dialup it says 115mbsp i think but that doesn't make any difference.

i'm sure in a 3g area the speed should be on par or faster then the q with evdo.

just got 183kbps on another speed test. not great but will be better with 3g.

its just weird how its PAN not dialup but under the Lan or high speed internet titel in Network Connections

too bad its not really high speed on edge.

anyway i have a 1294 net adapter connection connected as well in my network connections folder. dont know what that is but guess i shouldnm' tmess with it.

have some oher realteck pci-e gigabit ethernet NIC not connected and not sure what that is. might be when i tried to install the software for the pmcia pc card thype II super g adapter before i realized that my new laptop only had an express card slot. i though i uninstalled the software but maybe it left that connectin in network connections, oh well, guess ill just l eave it for now.

so everytime we want to tether we will have to go in to start > file explore> windows> and scroll all the way down to internet sharing?

anyway to make a shortcut?

Posted by: Quatre

sucks i get like 371kbps dl with 1 bar of EV signal when tethering through the Q, oh well. dont need it really at home. hopefully 3g pushes its way into my actual development somehow soon.

there has got to be a quicker way to open the interne sharing app in Windows folder of the bj.

i tried to add it to quick launch when you hold scroll wheel but the closest you can get is adding the windows folder and still will have to scroll all the way down to internet sharing. anyway know how to make a shortcut to it?

Posted by: one1082

406080 bps in Fort Worth (3G) over bluetooth.

Posted by: thinlyveiled

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quatre

there has got to be a quicker way to open the interne sharing app in Windows folder of the bj.

i tried to add it to quick launch when you hold scroll wheel but the closest you can get is adding the windows folder and still will have to scroll all the way down to internet sharing. anyway know how to make a shortcut to it?

Instructions on making a shortcut have already been discussed in this thread.

Please, kindly read through the discussion threads before making any more inquiries to be sure they haven't already been answered yet.

Posted by: Quatre

Quote:

Originally Posted by novasbc

btw the file labeled Internet Sharing in /Windows is already a shortcut of the file IntShrUI.exe.

But, making a shortcut of the shortcut Internet Sharing which places in the /Windows folder and then moving that to the Start Menu folder seems to work.

Posted by: nathan-c

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quatre

OK, I guess I am a little slow, but any chance I could get you to provide a step by step walk through on shortcutting the internet sharing link, because I just can't get it to work with your above directions. Sorry for being difficult.

Thanks for your help,

Nathan

Posted by: BTwannabe

has anyone made this work with the widcomm stack? i have widcomm and network access is one of the services available, but it cannot find that service on the phone.

Posted by: Sikskillz84

good stuff

Posted by: BTwannabe

i just tried it at work where i also have a widcomm adapter (slightly newer than home, but still old - 1.4.2) and i'm able to connect OK using "Network Access". i'm connected now to post this, actually.

edit - i just did a couple of bandwidth tests and got 450kbs down / 110 kbs up. not bad for bluetooth...

Posted by: beaups

I've been doing this for some time but find it's useless unless you are just fiddling for a few minutes. Bluetooth PAN to the 3G network smokes through the battery. I managed to kill a fresh battery in just 1.5 hours doing this. It seems best to just plug in via usb modem, use cingular connection manager.....that way your battery actually CHARGES while you're online.

Posted by: thinlyveiled

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaups

I've been doing this for some time but find it's useless unless you are just fiddling for a few minutes. Bluetooth PAN to the 3G network smokes through the battery. I managed to kill a fresh battery in just 1.5 hours doing this. It seems best to just plug in via usb modem, use cingular connection manager.....that way your battery actually CHARGES while you're online.

My understanding is that the phone does not charge over the wire when the USB mode is set to Modem. (Perhaps it does in fact, but the battery indicator does not show it is charging.)

Posted by: BTwannabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaups

i don't think it charges while connected to usb cable either. that was the intent of connecting via bluetooth - so i can connect the wall charger to the phone while i'm tethered.

Posted by: beaups

my bad. Now I remember. USB - set as activesync. Then use internet connection sharing on BJ just like bluetooth (except tell it usb instead of BT PAN) then it charges w/internet......

Posted by: Gunner1

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaups

my bad. Now I remember. USB - set as activesync. Then use internet connection sharing on BJ just like bluetooth (except tell it usb instead of BT PAN) then it charges w/internet......

So this works? You can tether and charge the phone over USB at the same time?

Posted by: beaups

I'm on vista machine tonight so your experience might be slightly diff w/xp. when I set usb setting to activesync, enable usb internet connection sharing then plug phone in vista says "found new hardware, NDIS based internet sharing device"....blah...blah...blah. Then I'm online w/a charging indicator in the BJ screen. This IS The way to do it! :-)

Posted by: AndyWireless

I got ICS up and running on the Blackjack and was able to successfully pair the device with my laptop (File Transfer via BT works beautifully). When i go to "Join a Personal Area Network" my BlackJack will light up, but no BT PAN device is found

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Posted by: jomo25

Nice! Works like a champ! Got 320kbps...

Now, I noticed that the screen on the Blackjack lights up every now and then...Anyone else get that too? Any way to disable that?

Posted by: thinktanq

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyWireless

I got ICS up and running on the Blackjack and was able to successfully pair the device with my laptop (File Transfer via BT works beautifully). When i go to "Join a Personal Area Network" my BlackJack will light up, but no BT PAN device is found

Any help is greatly appreciated.

I've been using this bluetooth tethering method for several days, and a couple of times, when I've instructed my computer to connect to a bluetooth personal area network, it has told me it couldn't find any devices supporting this service (even though it's been using this service on my phone for awhile). When I get this message, I back out, hit "connect" on my phone (so it's looking), and try again. This has worked for me so far. Best of luck.

Posted by: childers2

How can we make a short cut for internet connection shareing on the blackjack i need step by step i think i cant seem to get it??

Posted by: thoughtdude

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaups

I'm on vista machine tonight so your experience might be slightly diff w/xp. when I set usb setting to activesync, enable usb internet connection sharing then plug phone in vista says "found new hardware, NDIS based internet sharing device"....blah...blah...blah. Then I'm online w/a charging indicator in the BJ screen. This IS The way to do it! :-)

beaups - must be a Vista thing then? I tried it (XP SP2), and while it worked fine, I lost my activesync connection (not unsurprising) and the BJ stopped charging as well.

Anyone else with XP try this and successfully get their BJ to charge *and* keep their shared connection? I've stopped doing this because I don't get it to charge, and the speeds are slower (~480kbps/120kbps shared, ~790kbps/230kbps as a usb modem).

Posted by: mattroberg

Quote:

Originally Posted by childers2

How can we make a short cut for internet connection shareing on the blackjack i need step by step i think i cant seem to get it??

You must connect via Active sync on your PC, click the "Explore" button on Active sync, browse the BJ and navigate to the \Windows directory, right click and copy the shortcut, then paste it under \Windows\Start Menu

Hope this helps,

Matt

Posted by: mattroberg

Quote:

Originally Posted by thoughtdude

Yes... XP Pro and USB cable working for this post with the charging indicator showing. Internet sharing set to USB, USB set to ActiveSync.

I ran some speed tests, from Tulsa, OK I am getting 418kbps to 496kbps. Also I downloaded an 8 MB file to be sure... it leveled off at 62KBps (about 496kbps). It is like Cingular regulates you to no more than 500kbps.

matt

Posted by: flnsx

I can't get the internet sharing.ink to load. I can't copy the shortcut either. It says it's loaded into rom and can't create.

I tried different things but can't get the program to load. what am I doing wrong?

Posted by: ld-runner

i didn't use copy paste, i used copy shortcut. thanks to all the posters for helping me set this up. detroit area getting 700 up and down. woohoo.

Posted by: jgomez

I can connect to ActiveSync via BT on com4, I can connect to my computer in bluetooth devices on com5, and I can use my blackjack as a tethered modem via USB (a local area connection for a windows mobile device is shown in network connection window). But, I cannot get a bluetooth connection to show up in my network connection. When I use internet sharing on the blackjack, I am set to bluetooth pan when I trying to use BT and to USB when I am successfully using the USB. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

Posted by: scarfeet

This is kind of a noob question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Does it cost extra to tether with your PDA? I know Cingular wants you to add it as a feature. They've also stated that they can detect if you use your device to tether and if you are caught tethering without a plan you will be terminated involuntarily along with early termination fees.

Posted by: fowster

Quote:

Originally Posted by HectorV

What about using the Blackjack as a modem using the USB cable, is it possible?

Here is a link which discusses using the Blackjack as a USB modem on the Mac:
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...id=16042#M16042

Posted by: LunaC

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarfeet

Does it cost extra to tether with your PDA? I know Cingular wants you to add it as a feature. They've also stated that they can detect if you use your device to tether

They might be able to given they have access to the firmware but since you are using ICS(rather than dialup), it would make you think they would see it as data usage from the phone.

That said, 402kbps on bluetooth with the BJ

Posted by: LunaC

Quote:

Originally Posted by nathan-c

Here is how I did it:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ded#post8370192

Posted by: mattroberg

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarfeet

This is kind of a noob question, but I'm going to ask it anyway. Does it cost extra to tether with your PDA? I know Cingular wants you to add it as a feature. They've also stated that they can detect if you use your device to tether and if you are caught tethering without a plan you will be terminated involuntarily along with early termination fees.

I subscirbed to Cingular on 12-1, the sales guy called support 3 times and they decided I needed the $59.99 unlimited data connect plan for tethering... they also told me it would not work with USB only bluetooth, which is obviously not the case.

Anyone else know for sure if the $59.99 plan is required to prevent extra fees?

Posted by: thoughtdude

I believe it is required. I have the data connect unlimited to tether my PC as well. Of course, you could always chance it - but you risk getting charged hefty overages... the store manager in my area said some customers were being charged >$500 in a month with data overage charges for violating their feature agreement (tethering w/ a non-tether plan).

I will say I have no doubt they would be able to tell if you try it though.

Posted by: JohnnieBlack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quatre

I can't get it to copy into the start menu, it says "read only". How did you do it?

Posted by: LunaC

Use the notepad technique I documented. The reason mine worked the next day was because I changed the security settings/app-unlocked my BJ.

The notepad technique works regardless of the lock status of the device.

Posted by: YngDiego

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaups

Unfortunately I get the same Found New hardware message, but it is unable to locate any drivers for the ICS USB device. Active Sync works great over USB, but for the life of me I don't know where the Vista drivers are that it's asking for. Any ideas?

Posted by: bdwelle

Thx to this thread, I got tethering via USB & Internet Sharing working - very easy to set up! I'm getting ~600 kbps here in San Francisco, with the "3G" icon showing but not the "E" for EDGE, at least at the moment.

I have the $39 data plan, which from what you all are saying is "without tethering". I don't really plan on using the tethered setup that often, but I rather doubt that they can tell whether the traffic coming from the BlackJack or the PC - it's all TCP/IP, and everything from the laptop is going thru the BJ's IP interface. Any further info on this would be interesting, though...

Thx

Posted by: ld-runner

you might think that they can't tell, but depending on what your laptop is doing, they probably can. for instance, if all you do is browse the internet and use email, they would not notice. if you were doing something that the BJ does not natively support, then they could. for example, downloading files via ftp while port scanning another host. however, like you said, they more than likely will never care. unless you are using a crazy amount of bandwidth.

Posted by: zyrtek

i can't find the internet sharing application in my windows folder. am i doing something wrong

Posted by: mattroberg

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdwelle

Thx to this thread, I got tethering via USB & Internet Sharing working - very easy to set up! I'm getting ~600 kbps here in San Francisco, with the "3G" icon showing but not the "E" for EDGE, at least at the moment.

I have the $39 data plan, which from what you all are saying is "without tethering". I don't really plan on using the tethered setup that often, but I rather doubt that they can tell whether the traffic coming from the BlackJack or the PC - it's all TCP/IP, and everything from the laptop is going thru the BJ's IP interface. Any further info on this would be interesting, though...

Thx

have you got your first bill yet after doing this? I would be curious to know whether there are additional charges for the tethered data traffic

Thanks,

Matt

Posted by: DaveTreo300600

Has anyone tethered the BJ to a Nokia 770 tablet? It is a nice device with the upgrades they did a few months ago. When I connect with WiFi at a T-Mo hotspot the download speed is about half the speed of my 3G BJ in the La Cienega / Beverly Center area. So I would like to see if I can tether betw the BJ and the 770? Any thoughts on how to do this? Thanks.

Posted by: c0wb0ycliche

I just got the Blackjack and I'm actually using it right now with Vista (if anyone needs help setting it up in Vista I'd be glad to assist.)

But I'm slightly concerned as to whether or not I'm going to get screwed hard with overages from Cingular on my next bill.

I previously had a Audiovox SMT5600, with the $19.99 MediaNet Unlimited plan, and I used it as a modem (the *99# method) to get on GPRS. I never had a charge, and I used it at least 3 or 4 times a week.

Since upgrading to the Blackjack, I switched my plan to the new MediaMax (I think it's called?) which is unlimited MediaNet and CingularVideo with 1000 text/video/picture messages for $49.99 a month.

When using the Blackjack, I'm just running the Internet Connection Sharing application and using USB or PAN. And it works great.

I don't quite understand how they would be able to tell if you are using the phone as a modem since the device itself has full web browsing and can stream video and whatnot... but does anyone here have the Blackjack, and used the web without having a Tethering plan, and gotten a bill yet?

Posted by: Foxbat121

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0wb0ycliche

I don't quite understand how they would be able to tell if you are using the phone as a modem since the device itself has full web browsing and can stream video and whatnot... but does anyone here have the Blackjack, and used the web without having a Tethering plan, and gotten a bill yet?

It is very easy. They just need to see the amount of data you use each month and compare to other devices to see if you're on the wrong plan or not. If you tether a lot, sooner or later they will catch you and slap you with a huge data bill.

Posted by: c0wb0ycliche

I know they technically could tell, but has anyone on here been billed yet?

With the bandwidth usage, especially on the Blackjack, how much a difference can it be? XM Radio, even the trial, gives you a warning that it uses a lot of bandwidth, and I'd assume that Cingular Video does. And like someone said, if all your doing from your computer is web browsing and e-mail, that could be done on the device itself. As could video and audio streaming.

I'm not so concerned about them "knowing" and if I had to I would buck up the extra whatever it is a month for tethering, but I don't want to assume that like with my 5600, everything will be smooth.

Basically, I just want to know if anyone who has posted here and done this, who DOESN'T have a specific tethering plan, has been charged for the data. I know that theoretically, according to the ToS, they can terminate your service and blah blah blah, but in reality, have they done that? Or charged? If I get my bill and everything is ok (which I'm hoping) I'm going to assume that they can only really tell if you are tethering if you download and install the Cingular application for doing so.

Posted by: novasbc

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0wb0ycliche

I know they technically could tell, but has anyone on here been billed yet?

With the bandwidth usage, especially on the Blackjack, how much a difference can it be? XM Radio, even the trial, gives you a warning that it uses a lot of bandwidth, and I'd assume that Cingular Video does. And like someone said, if all your doing from your computer is web browsing and e-mail, that could be done on the device itself. As could video and audio streaming.

I'm not so concerned about them "knowing" and if I had to I would buck up the extra whatever it is a month for tethering, but I don't want to assume that like with my 5600, everything will be smooth.

Basically, I just want to know if anyone who has posted here and done this, who DOESN'T have a specific tethering plan, has been charged for the data. I know that theoretically, according to the ToS, they can terminate your service and blah blah blah, but in reality, have they done that? Or charged? If I get my bill and everything is ok (which I'm hoping) I'm going to assume that they can only really tell if you are tethering if you download and install the Cingular application for doing so.

I'm on MediaMax 200 with my Blackjack, and tether with the USB cable (can't get bluetooth via Vista x64 to work). I don't run a LOT of data through, but haven't been charged with anything extra.

Posted by: Foxbat121

You only need to search back a year or so when Cingular started enforce the rules. Some ppl did get charged $1,000+ (although you usually can get it waived for the first time). They don't terminate your service just switch you to Pay Per Use without telling you.

Posted by: svitolo

Remember that you can ALWAYS monitor your monthly charges ONLINE! It seems like they update usage daily.

I just started tethering with the 19.99 plan and so far so good. Everything is coming up under the MEdia Net plan. I haven't been going crazy with it or downloading anything. I've been using it to surf news, myspace, etc.

So, it SEEMS that with the 19.99 plan everyone will be just fine.

I would, however, MAKE SURE that you are tethering through wap.cingular and NOT isp.cingular. This might raise flags or even charge you as PAY-PER-USE.

If you haven't changed your default settings then you're already using wap.cingular and you're fine

DON'T FALL FOR THEIR 39.99 PLAN! THEY'LL TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR INTERNET ON YOUR PHONE BUT YOU CAN!

Posted by: pdxrealtor

Could someone please help me with trouble shooting why my black jack won't tether? am attempting blue tooth and have followed all instructions t a T. I get eveything connected, even the connection icon shows up in the tast bar, but I can get NO activity.

I have a 2/0 bt sony vaio computer w/ built in bluetooth. It seems as though everything is there, but maybe like a setting isn't set right or something.

Courld someone please help?

Posted by: pdxrealtor

Anyone???????

Posted by: pdxrealtor

Someone has got to know enough, or care enogh to help me out with this. IT's driving me nuts! Please? Someone?

Posted by: jomo25

You might try to provide a little more info about your issues, like specific error messages, or even screen shots or providing more evidence of what you have checked before begging people to help you. Like, are you sure you can get data from your BJ itself? Can you do any other BT connections from your BJ to the PC (i.e. can you activesync via BT)? Are they paired properly?

Provide that kind of info and you might get some more help...

Posted by: pdxrealtor

Quote:

Originally Posted by jomo25

You might try to provide a little more info about your issues, like specific error messages, or even screen shots or providing more evidence of what you have checked before begging people to help you. Like, are you sure you can get data from your BJ itself? Can you do any other BT connections from your BJ to the PC (i.e. can you activesync via BT)? Are they paired properly?

Provide that kind of info and you might get some more help...

Ok, not sure how to take screen shots. I get no error messages. My computer shows up on my phone, and my phone shows up under my bluetooth on the computer.....they are paired. I have push email all day to my black jack, plus stream sirrius sattelite radio and surf internet explorer so I know I have data.

I'm not sure how to active sync via bluetooth??? So I don't know.

Here is what happens. I go to the phone and start the internet sharing, set up as pc connection "bluetooth pan" and network connection 'MEdia Net"

I then click the connect key. Phone says "device setup finished. On the phone connect blue tooth pan."

So, I go to my bluetooth manager where my samsung is, and click on that icon. It says now connecting then connects. Under status on my phone it says connected and in my task bar there are the windows xp network connection icons.

In my network sectioin of windows XP the network bridge is connected as well.

If you need any more info, please let me know and I'll gladly do what it takes.

THanks for your help, you don't konw how frustrating it is...

Posted by: pdxrealtor

Is this enough info???

Posted by: c0wb0ycliche

Hey... people keep PMing me about getting this to work on Vista, so I figured I'd respond here.

I DID have it working, but only once, and since RTM I haven't been able to get it to work. Pre-RTM it worked exactly like in Vista.

But alas, I can't get it to anymore.

Posted by: Quatre

sorry to hear it doesn't really work on vista. I know I got this working awhile bck but haven't really needed it.

I hope I can remember/relearn how to do it as we will really need to do it this summer at the shore/beach where we don't have an internet connection. luckily laptop is winxp.

in another unrelated but samsung blackjack question... anyone else get the holster clip direct from samsung website and have it break like all plastic clips eventually do?

can't believe all cing store has is the leather pouch type clips which are horrible ( I forget how someone best described them, startrek or something to that effect) they are just bulky nerdy and cover entire phone unneccesarily. holster clip is minimalist and all you need to secure it t pants and protect it well enough. some phones like motos used to come with one.

at least with ones in store and vzw always seems to have them for everyphone while cing I always hav e to order online) you can get a new one quicker and sometimes exchange it for a new one but now have to order a new one no exchange and wait for it to deliver. what a pita.

meanwhile sorry to say but I've had bj from start was never that impressed and especially the keyboard sucks and always misses keys. the Q while slight bigger was better. did cing get yet? did cing get a 3g version of the htc excalibur or whatever tmobile was calling it? maybe importable by now? I'm a little out of it on the phones and while I should keep the bj for much longer I'm already ready for a new better smartphone.

speaking of kybrd, the one on this htc hermes/TyTN/cing 8525 is good but to be fair it is a full ppc phone but again moto Q was better and I'm sure htc excalibut and they smartphone with qwerty.

long as I he something I can tether with and 8525 can I'm sure but bj might actually be easier and is the one I keep the sim with unlim data plan on and switching sims a lot is kind of a pain especially on bj.

Posted by: louden

Replying on this thread as well -

I'm using Vista and can get the Blackjack to work as a USB modem, but no luck via Bluetooth. Does anyone have a definitive answer for this one?

Posted by: G27_jose

I tried searching here on HoFo and could not find instructions on how to do this via Bluetooth on a Mac. Finally found what I was looking for on a Google search and got it to work. Must be running Mac OS 10.4.9.

Linky

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I was able to get internet sharing working on a mac over Bluetooth. If you have OS-X 10.4.9, you can do it very easily. No modem scripts required!

(1) From the Mac, initiate the pairing process with the phone. It will say the phone doesn't have any supported services, but then the last page of the Bluetooth wizard will say it supports a Personal Area Network.

(2) Open the "Internet Sharing" application on the phone. Use the File Explorer to find it under \Windows. (You can use another program to make a link in your Start Menu to make it easier to find later.)

(3) Change the method used to connect the computer from "USB" to "Bluetooth PAN".

(4) Click "Connect".

(5) On the Mac, click the Bluetooth menu on the Menu Bar and select "Join Network on [device]". (The Internet Sharing app on the phone should now say "Connected".)

That's it!

The only problem is that internet doesn't appear to work on the phone while the computer is connected.

I was also able to get this to work at the same time as Missing Sync, which works with Bluetooth as of version 3.0.2 (currently Beta). Earlier versions don't work, because you had to turn off the antenna to use bluetooth.

Hope this works for any Mac users that have been trying to connect via Bluetooth. It's great to be able to charge the phone and connect my MacBook to the internet at the same time. About the only downside is I've noticed the connections have been slower. Might just be me or my location though.

Posted by: picco007

Now that i have my bluetooth tethered. How do I get online? This is a dumb question but, I've gotten the computer to see the phone and vice versa but I can not get on the internet. Please advise.

thanks.

Posted by: jlczl

Wirelessly posted (SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/I607FG1 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 320x240))

I can't get it either. I get the following error:

Connection from SGH-i607 has been denied.
Authentication with SGH-i607 (00:1A:8B:2A:7F:AA) cannot be performed. The device properties was set as the Non-pairable mode.

Posted by: bbqmaui

hi,
i just got my black jack with the 40 dollar unlimted data plan. i would like to connect my sony ux computer to the internet using my blackjack. since this is over dun/bluetooth, do i still need to upgrade my account to include the tethering laptop option by cingular? or is this a way around the extra 20$ charge a month. i will not be bit torrentling, downloading movies, etc....its just for surfing/reading websites and youtube.

thanks!

Posted by: netronin

Someone testing a BJ with WM6 stated this worked correctly in Vista since
he updgraded from WM5 so maybe there is hope for Vista users.

Posted by: jbzcar

The combination of the Blackjack and Vista running MS's stock Bluetooth stack does NOT work for PAN/ICS. If you are running the Toshiba BT stack under Vista, then PAN works, and you can tether to your heart's content. Not every Bluetooth adapter will work with the Toshiba stack, though. I had a heck of a time forcing it to work with my Vaio's integrated BT adapter, and am just going to buy a new dongle that comes with it for my desktop, both running Vista.

Posted by: netronin

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Originally Posted by jbzcar

The combination of the Blackjack and Vista running MS's stock Bluetooth stack does NOT work for PAN/ICS. If you are running the Toshiba BT stack under Vista, then PAN works, and you can tether to your heart's content. Not every Bluetooth adapter will work with the Toshiba stack, though. I had a heck of a time forcing it to work with my Vaio's integrated BT adapter, and am just going to buy a new dongle that comes with it for my desktop, both running Vista.

The person I was referring to was using this with a Lenovo T60 and it's builtin BT module.

Posted by: jlczl

Got it running smoothly, the problem was that I was connected to my home network and it just won't work simultaneously. I have to disconnect from my home network to get it to work. Wish I could stay connected to home network and share my internet connection with my other two pc's. Anybody know how to do that?

BT Tethered with Sony Vaio UX on the Media Max 200.

Posted by: jbzcar

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Originally Posted by netronin

The person I was referring to was using this with a Lenovo T60 and it's builtin BT module.

My Sony's is built-in, too. That doesn't mean it has to use the MS stack.

Posted by: bbqmaui

for those who have the blackjack with unlimited data, is it a must to get the tethered 20 plan add on?

Posted by: jlczl

Wirelessly posted (SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/I607FG1 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 320x240))

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Originally Posted by bbqmaui

for those who have the blackjack with unlimited data, is it a must to get the tethered 20 plan add on?

Posted by: menace330

will this charge me if i do it through usb?

Posted by: BamaStormChaser

Maybe someone can help me out here.....I just purchased the I-607 Blackjack this weekend and I know how to get the internet connection to be established through the dialing on my laptop. However, I can not find the Applications folder or the \WINDOWS folder at all on my Blackjack. From the way I am reading, this should have came on the Blackjack. How can I determine what version of Windows that I have on my BJ and how can I fix this? I want to be able to use data and make calls at the same time through my BJ and from what I gather the Internet Sharing program is vital to that. Not sure.....if anyone else can give a better explanation it would be appreciated. Thanks!

EDIT: Also, I downloaded the Xpress mail to get email. However, I deleted it due to finding out that they charge for you using the program. If I have the Media Max 200 package, could I setup my email and not get charged any extra? I won't be using the Xpress Mail service.....just manually setting things up. Thanks again!

Posted by: dserva

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Originally Posted by BamaStormChaser

Maybe someone can help me out here.....I just purchased the I-607 Blackjack this weekend and I know how to get the internet connection to be established through the dialing on my laptop. However, I can not find the Applications folder or the \WINDOWS folder at all on my Blackjack. From the way I am reading, this should have came on the Blackjack. How can I determine what version of Windows that I have on my BJ and how can I fix this? I want to be able to use data and make calls at the same time through my BJ and from what I gather the Internet Sharing program is vital to that. Not sure.....if anyone else can give a better explanation it would be appreciated. Thanks!

EDIT: Also, I downloaded the Xpress mail to get email. However, I deleted it due to finding out that they charge for you using the program. If I have the Media Max 200 package, could I setup my email and not get charged any extra? I won't be using the Xpress Mail service.....just manually setting things up. Thanks again!

I also CAN NOT find the internet sharing application on my blackjack. I desperately want to use my 3G Connection on my laptop. I have tried every possible combination. I go into my windows folder and can not find the application. Please someone tell me what I am doing wrong. Is this application hidden in some other folder that ATT doesnt want me to find? email me at dserva@gmail.com

any info is GREATLY appreciated!

Posted by: IlKevinlI

Look for the file named IntShrUI.exe. Thats the file you need. Its there as long as you NOT using the WM6 rom.

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Originally Posted by dserva

Posted by: BamaStormChaser

I'm not using the WM6 ROM. I figured out how to get it....you have to allow the hidden files and folder to be viewed. If you do so, you can find the Internet Sharing app and then procede to copy and pasting it to your start menu folder.

Thanks for the assistance.

Posted by: player911

You guys realize that the slow speeds (~300kbps) is because of the BT speeds. Bluetooth is the bottleneck.

Using the USB connection will yield full 3G speeds.

The bluetooth PAN is only really needed if you don't have the USB cable handy from traveling. I just tested it out and its extremely easy to do. I can really think of a couple cases were this would benefit me because I travel to various major cities where my company puts me in cheap hotels with shotty wifi.

Posted by: knightto

I've been browsing for over an hour and can't find a standard list of steps to share the internet connection from my blackjack to my laptop. I don't know much about DUN. I'm going on vacation to a place with NO INTERNET. I have the internet unlimited plan on my blackjack through AT&T. Any links to posts addressing this specifically?

Posted by: Y3k-Bug

I can confirm that Bluetooth tethering with the Blackjack does in fact work on Vista, with one cavaet; you must install the Toshiba Bluetooth stack. Using the default stack that ships with Vista, the PAN network service doesn't show up as a service for the phone.

I simply uninstalled the Microsoft stack, then installed the Toshiba one, restarted, allowed the Toshiba software to see the new hardware, and I was good to go. At that point it was simply a matter of pairing the phone to my computer, and clicking yes for "Bluetooth PAN" under the "Services" option.

My computer is an Asus G1 laptop with built in Bluetooth, so yes you can install another stack on built in hardware. I have the Media Max 200 data plan for the phone.

Posted by: player911

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Originally Posted by knightto

I've been browsing for over an hour and can't find a standard list of steps to share the internet connection from my blackjack to my laptop. I don't know much about DUN. I'm going on vacation to a place with NO INTERNET. I have the internet unlimited plan on my blackjack through AT&T. Any links to posts addressing this specifically?

Make sure your PC and Blackjack are partnered. To test... send a file from your PC to your phone. If you can do that, you're already half way there.

Open up Internet Connection Sharing ON YOUR WM5 PHONE. Select Bluetooth as the connection medium and hit connect. Your XP (or vista maybe) should come up and say BT PAN connected. Go into Network Connections and select your BT PAN device. I think in there you have to tell it to connect.

Posted by: formercanuck

I tethered my Samsung ZX-20 over bluetooth using AT&T Communication Manager.

I recommend anyone wanting to tether (USB or Bluetooth) to try using AT&T Comm. Manager. It will do 95% of the work for you. I maxed out near 600kbps on bluetooth, and 1Mbps on USB.

Posted by: bpolhemus

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Originally Posted by thinlyveiled

Okay, I've finally figured out how to tether your BlackJack to a PC (or any device supporting the PAN profile) over Bluetooth. (I'm actually posting this over my BT connection!)

Well, I originally got things working using the recipe that you set down here. Last week I had to reinstall Windows XP on my laptop. I used the "Files and Settings Transfer" tool, but it didn't do even half of what I hoped it would.

So a lot of things got slagged and I'm slowly trying to get things back up again. One thing that DOESN'T work is Internet connection through the Blackjack. I can pair the phone and the laptop via Bluetooth, I can TETHER the phone, but after it connects (takes a LONG time to assign an IP number), no internet. It's as if it only has the PAN capability and knows nothing at all about the Internet.

Looking at the SUPPORT tab on the Bluetooth PAN dialogue, it shows the 169.xxx.xxx.xxx IP number, but no gateway, etc.

I cannot figure out how to get back to what I had, and I think the Cingular/AT&T support folks would rather DIE than support anything other than "AT&T Connection Manager," which is garbage.

Posted by: nubbbbby

Hi, I just got a new laptop....which I'm not very savvy with never had one before. I also have the blackjack with an unlimited data plan. I haven't used the internet on the blackjack much. I was thinking about cancelling it and getting a laptop card through cingular. Should I be looking at tethering instead? And if so.....am I able to with my current plan?

Posted by: IlKevinlI

The 169 IP your getting is assigned by windows when it doesn't receive an IP from the ISP. Thats why you get no internet.

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