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Nokia 8801 to 8800 conversion 'kits'
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Posted by: silverbullet818

I have successfully converted my 8801 to fit into a 8800 housing and it works 100%. Ofcourse, along the way I destroyed a few pieces while 'learning' and had to send the phone in for repairs.

IF I were to make a DIY kit, do you think there would be enough interest to make it worthwhile? Just wondering your thoughts

Posted by: Zaku_4

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ur telling me the 8801 hardware fit into a 8800?

then why the hell is the 8801 bigger in the first place?

Posted by: dohdough

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Originally Posted by Zaku_4

ur telling me the 8801 hardware fit into a 8800?

then why the hell is the 8801 bigger in the first place?

The antenna Doesn't fit. That's why he's talking about a DIY kit and having to "convert" and "fit." A quick search on your part would explain the difference in size.

Posted by: silverbullet818

Yeah, the antennae/speaker module of the 8801 is bigger than the 8800. It need not be however, I think that Nokia did this intentionally to justify the higher cost of the 8800. Also probably to keep the 8800 'pure' at the expense of bastardizing the 8801.

Go figure, I am told that the NEW Scirocco is even thicker than the 8801? WTF??!!!

Posted by: dohdough

I think its because the actual board on the phone is bigger, but I could be wrong. The slide is most definitely the same though.

Posted by: silverbullet818

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Originally Posted by dohdough

I think its because the actual board on the phone is bigger, but I could be wrong. The slide is most definitely the same though.

Nope, slide is the same, board is same. Just midplate and antennae

Posted by: dohdough

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Originally Posted by silverbullet818

Nope, slide is the same, board is same. Just midplate and antennae

Are you referring to the 8800 or the Sirocco? I know that the 8800 and 8801 had the same sized board, but I haven't taken apart a Sirocco to compare.

Posted by: CoRupT

You guys know the that 8801 can be converted to 8800 but you will lose 850 and your suppost to be able to enable 850 on the 8800 as well. but theres modification you have to do. Ive seen the scematic and it isnt easy. but housing change shouldnt be to hard just need to get a new battery cover housing and basically a new housing

Posted by: silverbullet818

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Originally Posted by CoRupT

You guys know the that 8801 can be converted to 8800 but you will lose 850 and your suppost to be able to enable 850 on the 8800 as well. but theres modification you have to do. Ive seen the scematic and it isnt easy. but housing change shouldnt be to hard just need to get a new battery cover housing and basically a new housing

Corupt, your suggestion is a lot more 'involved' than what I am suggesting. My suggestion is to use the 8801 guts and all and make it 'fit' into the 8800 housing. There would be no requirement to flash the unit at all. You will not lose the 850 band on the 8801.

I am planning to offer a kit that would include a complete midplate with rear faceplate. All the end user would have to do is to unscrew their 8801, replace their whole midplate assembly with the one I am going to make. Screw back the 4 screws and voila! 8801 in 8800

Posted by: silverbullet818

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Originally Posted by dohdough

Are you referring to the 8800 or the Sirocco? I know that the 8800 and 8801 had the same sized board, but I haven't taken apart a Sirocco to compare.

I am refering to the 8800/8801 and not the Sirocco. Sorry for the confusion!!

Posted by: CoRupT

alright im interested in looking at the diy guide

Posted by: pfreitas

Wirelessly posted (Nokia E61: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.1; U; en-us) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413 es61 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

As am I...hopefully you took pictures of your trial and errors

Posted by: silverbullet818

Guys, where can I post the pics? I am not considering a guide, but rather sending a whole mid part completed with all the mods. Basically, plug and play!

Posted by: pfreitas

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Originally Posted by silverbullet818

Guys, where can I post the pics? I am not considering a guide, but rather sending a whole mid part completed with all the mods. Basically, plug and play!

I always use image shack as its fast and its free. I cant post the link right now due to the fact that im using my e61 and dont have the link stored on it. Hopefully someone can post it before I do. Im excited to see what youve got as im dying to convert my 8801 into a slimmer black 8800. Thanks for keeping us in the loop on this!

Posted by: pfreitas

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Originally Posted by silverbullet818

Guys, where can I post the pics? I am not considering a guide, but rather sending a whole mid part completed with all the mods. Basically, plug and play!

Here is the Link..It's very very easy to use..hit browse..find your files and hit host it!

http://www.imageshack.us/

Posted by: ckpatel

id be interested.

Posted by: royal9

same lmk.. pm me once you have your guide or kit.

Posted by: PR1MO

i was wondering, cant you just buy the 8800 housings (battery cover, keypad cover and slide screen) and put it on the 8801? like if i was to change my silver housings for black ones?

Posted by: evilgabbie

it's been done before, you need modification to the antenna to retain the 850mhz, do a fieldtest on the phone

we have done 6 units now

Posted by: ckpatel

how much do u charge to have it converted evilgabbie?

Posted by: pockets43

Hey silverbullet I would like the DIY guide as well can you please pm me with the link to it? Thanks for everything. your work is fully appreciatted

Posted by: silverbullet818

I am still awaiting the suppliers reply for the antennae/speaker modules. I plan to offer all parts needed so that you can simply switch back to the original case if you want to. IF you mod your antennae/speaker and mess up, you will be SOL and will have to send your phone in to Nokia for repair.

Posted by: phone_fanatic

I would be very interested in this as well! I have a 8801 that I would like to convert into black version! So yea, I am looking forward to this.

Posted by: pfreitas

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Originally Posted by evilgabbie

it's been done before, you need modification to the antenna to retain the 850mhz, do a fieldtest on the phone

we have done 6 units now

Are you offering the conversion service? You said you've done 6 units..wanna try for 7?

Posted by: phone_fanatic

Hey Silverbullet. It's been a while, haven't heard any updates on this from your side. So what's going on mate?

Posted by: silverbullet818

Will be on this early in the new year. Give me a week. Thanks for your patience

Posted by: royal9

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Originally Posted by silverbullet818

Will be on this early in the new year. Give me a week. Thanks for your patience

i ma looking forward to this very anxiously.

Posted by: phattbam

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Posted by: CoRupT

I think it isnt to big of a problem to do now. cnn.cn has 8801 antennas/housings the whole deal so you couldnt mess up to much

Posted by: phattbam

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Originally Posted by CoRupT

I think it isnt to big of a problem to do now. cnn.cn has 8801 antennas/housings the whole deal so you couldnt mess up to much

yo B. can you help me flash my 8801 later this week?

Posted by: CoRupT

Yeah, When you wanna do it? let me find the latest FW i already have 4.16

Posted by: Evilkilla

imm interested in the conversion, lmk what was needed like full 8800 housing?, antenna etc. I need to know exactly so i know what parts to order. My firmware is already 8800, previous owner changed it already

Posted by: CoRupT

OK, SO i got both a black 8800 and a 8801 silver, I opened it and examined it. I basically just took the 8801 main board with the RM-33 SW and put it into the 8800's housing. The reception is the same with the 8800 antenna so it makes me wonder what the differences is between the two antennas. Tommow im going to flash it myself and enable netmonitor and see if the 8800 antenna has the 850band in it and if its just software that is making us get 850 or lose 850. The mainboard is exactly the same and the internal parts basically the same except the antenna. The antenna looks the same and has the same chips and are identical beside the sizes. I'm thinking the only thing difference is Software and a minor switch in hardware. But we cant get 8800's antennas so im going to try to open the antenna see if i can make it thinner

Posted by: evilgabbie

latest one is 4.17 (firmware)

you really need fieldtest to test the reception, nokia reception bars are the worst for using as standard

8800 antenna will work, 850mhz is detected BUT it's hopping channels = battery drain and not really steady right now.

if there is enough interest i will start doing them again

8801 -> 8800d with 850mhz maintained and newer firmware is almost complete (improved camera / possible memory upgrade as well if price is reasonable)

8801 thinning, it's hard cause the camera piece is there as well, you will have to carefully remove the antenna covering, shave down the white piece BUT keep in mind it's held in place on the sides snuggly and also the camera piece then replace the antenna

Posted by: CoRupT

Im running both 4.17 on both 8801s but i forgot to enable the field test to check the reception. i didnt fully dissasemble the 8800 so i dont really know what plastic peice your talking about but i guess i have to open the antenna and then shave it down to fit the 8800 middle housing. It looks like thats the only hardware mod to do.

Posted by: silverbullet818

Well, I have tried to get the parts from CNN.CN and was SCREWED out of my $$$$ read the following thread to see what happened to me.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...384#post8878384

Sorry guys, unless I can get the parts, how can I do the mod? Need the parts

Posted by: evilgabbie

if i get enough interest i will make a few more ... i have cheap 8801s.. just no one wants to pay for the parts

Posted by: t0kie

Hi guys I'm new, and I want to check my ear speaker on my 8800 phone because the sound is not right (seems like it's loose), I unscrew the 4 screws, remove bottom housing, unscrew 2 little screw on the midde, remove the plastic body, then I'm stuck there. I cannot open/remove the metal backplate. Any input with pictures will be helpful. Thanks in advance!

Posted by: t0kie

Never mind, I got it.

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Posted by: Rameo

old thread but just wanted to update. I have a bunch of phones. of them I tried to get the 8801 to work in the middleeast where mainly 900mhz is used for reception. The reception was flaky on the phone, not stable at all, so I changed filters in the phone and updated it with a 8800 pm file and now i have a 8800

. Also it is in sirocco housing(i also own an original sirocco). just clarification. IT IS NOT ONLY THE ANTENNA.

Posted by: showbow

this will work no problem with my 8801 right? mine's all scratched up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/original-OEM-no...1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: Rameo

should work. but you're just gonna get this one scratched too. I would only buy it if you're looking to change colour.

Posted by: showbow

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Originally Posted by Rameo

should work. but you're just gonna get this one scratched too. I would only buy it if you're looking to change colour.

mine's scratched, so might as well get a new color.

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Posted by: Rameo

take care when you disassemble as damaging the flex cable means you will need a new flex/keyboard/lcd/camera as it comes as one piece. that piece costs 150$!

Posted by: showbow

^thanks for the heads up. is ebay the best place to get parts cheap?

Posted by: kyosuke

im going to be doing a full conversion soon from 8801 > 8800 gold housing soon

! not my money so yeah gona buy everything and spend like 130 just in parts

Posted by: trupper

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Originally Posted by kyosuke

im going to be doing a full conversion soon from 8801 > 8800 gold housing soon

! not my money so yeah gona buy everything and spend like 130 just in parts

I am doing it as well. Could you please post exactly the parts that you're buying? Is it confirmed that you need an 8800 antenna?

Posted by: kyosuke

well other people use the 8800 attena to keep the 850 band but i dont know how to make that fat attena work. So i bought an 8801 because it is smaller and will fit the midplate.

The mid plate comes with the speaker and vibrating motor so you dont have to buy those again or replace them.

this is what i bought

1 x Nokia 8800 OEM speaker & antenna $6.99 (dont need the speaker )
1 x Nokia 8800 OEM midplate $16.99
1 x Nokia 8800 OEM microphone $1.99 (dont need this nither)
1 x Nokia 8800 OEM ear speaker $1.99 (dont need it)
1 x Nokia 8800 OEM metal backplate for sliding housing $3.99
1 x Nokia 8800 OEM gold faceplate set $89.99
1 x Nokia 8800 OEM camera cover $4.99
1 x Nokia 8800 speaker dust guard (dont need it)

i bought all these parts cuz he wanted a brand newish phone to the full extent

Posted by: showbow

give us an update

Posted by: kyosuke

well i did it but didnt take pictures :/ but i mean everything work flawlessly not hard at all sorry guys

Posted by: showbow

is this a good buy for my 8801? mine is scracthed up now? installation isnt that hard rright?

Posted by: patsc23

Hi guys - new here but I was reading through the post...

i currently hav the Nokia 8801 in silver and my battery cover is dented...I wanted to get a black batttery cover and keep the front silver...

will the black 8800 battery cover door fit on the 8801?

Posted by: lowkeyturner@ms

trying to figure out which Nokia model to buy. Doesn't have to be that fancy. thanks