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WHAT a Sad Story: the camera qualtiy of 910SH

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Posted by: PaulShih

Sad Story: the camera qualtiy of 910SH


It seems the camera quality of 910sh dates back to that of 902SH











Posted by: PaulShih

Some sample photos from K-TAI:

http://ad.impress.co.jp/special/910sh/















Posted by: PaulShih

The saving time of HQ photo is about 6.5 seconds.



Posted by: PaulShih

Two more photos taken in indoor.





Anyway, for people who only view their photos taken in 910SH,
it's not a big big problem.

The photo is brisk clear in its VGA mon. like the time being at 902SH.
Every photo is clear at phone but blur at PC



Posted by: AL9999

Those first four pictures you posted are rubbish, but the rest of them (particularly the K-tai Watch ones) are quite good. Maybe the first four are from a prototype camera module?

Edit: Oh stupid me, didn't realise you had resized them to 2MP. Just saw the native 5MP ones and I agree, the quality is rubbish at native res. What a shame.



Posted by: beaver23

Yeh i agree, must be as all said and be some pre-production phone. Or just a awful firmware.
Hope this isnt true for all of them. Any video samples?



Posted by: marco712

hahaha i wonder if the n95 is going to be like this.. if that's the case.. then my earlier statement of "i'd laugh if the 903 camera is stll better than the n95" would stand



Posted by: yangj08

Wow- the appeal of the 910SH is lost now (unless you were looking for the smoother zoom- I hated the 902SH because it only went from 1x to 2x and I couldn't zoom in between - say, 1.5x).



Posted by: Kevbodian

i notice the focal length of your shots is extremely low!!! do you have macro on or something? are you half pressing or just quickshooting?

either your camera is broken or you are doing something terribly wrong without realizing. there's no reason why a 2mp camera should look like that.

im not sure if all browsers do this.. but with Opera, I can view the image properties to quite some detail.



Posted by: shaznizzle

this is bad.... bad news!!!



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Very disappointing
Macro shots are... you can see this, worth nothing, phone didn`t focus properly. In this case I won`t blame phone for this, but I must say that 903 sometimes has problems when focusing in macro mode while at the same time 902 can focus without any problems. Maybe 910 has same problems with macro as 903?
Outdoor pics also could be better BUT this can`t be used as excuse for overall poor quality. Full size pictures indeed resemble me 902 pics in native resolution but are even worse! I took better pics with my 902! Outdoor pictures (first 4) when scaled down to 1024x768 have quality similiar to typical photos taken with 902 however pictures with girl are much better, a little bit closer to 903 quality.
For me, this looks like poor quality 2~3MP photo interpolated to 5MP. Pictures are so blurry and grainy at the same time that it`s hard to belive that these pics were taken by 5MPix CCD sensor. Just look at my 903 pics scaled up from 2048x1536 (903sh native) to 2592x1944 (910sh native) resolution, no special filters used, different light conditions (indoor, outdoor, dark, night):



a lot better than 910sh!
I guess 910 owners would be happy to see pictures of similiar quality to my 903 "5MP" pictures
It`s a real shame

PS: Post pictures in thumbnails! Some people may want to read this forum on PDA or PSP... Don`t be cruel



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleAllEvil


i couldnt help but notice that red car is imported as the steering wheel is on the left hand side

what kind of car is it just curious? i want one



Posted by: marco712

I was thinking the exact same thing.. maybe the camera is interpolated and not an actual 5 mpx



Posted by: jeebjp

marco712, actually one of the main selling points is the actual 5MP sensor, so that can't be a lie.

I think that the 910SH's lense is really picky about focus or something (or then the settings are not good in some of those shots, both K-Tai and PaulShih's). The photos with the girl are focused well on the girl and it looks pretty good. Then if you look at the background and understand that it looks pretty blurred, which is a bit like the city shot from K-Tai, in which I can't understand where the point of focus is at all. The night pic quality is pretty default for Sharp phones without the usage of extra lighting and the usual day shot indoors is pretty good (the cats, here too the focus is set pretty well). So either it's really picky about focus or you have to set the camera to autofocus itself in a bit different way. But these are just my 5 yen, I haven't held this phone in my hands yet.



Posted by: SpecC

OMG damn...... I thought it would be a very good lense..... sigh..........



Posted by: azn_boi_128

wow... that sux



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglizt1210
i couldnt help but notice that red car is imported as the steering wheel is on the left hand side
what kind of car is it just curious? i want one

It`s modified Trabant 601 produced in West Germany in 70`s or 80`s. Original Trabant was never produced in convertible version. Body is made from plastic and it has two-stroke engine They`re rare now, but it`s easy to buy one and they`re cheap.

Original pictures (just compressed a little bit more to fit photobucket 1MB file size limit):




Posted by: Junglizt1210

ahh..... are there no actual doors on it? it looks a bit odd without solid doors with that plastic sheet



Posted by: hao-bao

Finaly!!! People realize that Sharp is not the god of phones.



Posted by: Junglizt1210

so what IS the god in phones?

I s'pose Korean phones come under that label, but for anyone in a country that's not CDMA, we're not included. Still, I'd much rather be using UTMS than CDMA any day. At least it works around a fair bit of the world.



Posted by: azn_boi_128

Quote:
Originally Posted by hao-bao
Finaly!!! People realize that Sharp is not the god of phones.


sharp is still the god of phones... but new stuf just came out i'll give them a yr to change it

but then again its w-cdma only so i dont care about anyways



Posted by: hao-bao

Sharp IS the god of phones in Japan. However, their User Interface could benefit from becoming more user friendly (less clicks required to perform simple and repetitive actions). Then Sharp would be the god of phones worldwide.

910SH is not that good as a camera. Is the 903SH still the best Sharp Camera Phone ever made?



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Probably yes, along with 904.



Posted by: azn_boi_128

Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleAllEvil
Probably yes, along with 904.


903 is better



Posted by: 2SHY

Optical 5 Megapixel???? Now i want a 903 back......



Posted by: Junglizt1210

For most of the western world, the 903SH is the best phone that works practically over here, the 904SH is the best phone that theoretically works over here, and the 910SH is the best phone that perhaps,... oh never mind... no one cares anyway. Sharp rule.



Posted by: azn_boi_128

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglizt1210
For most of the western world, the 903SH is the best phone that works practically over here, the 904SH is the best phone that theoretically works over here, and the 910SH is the best phone that perhaps,... oh never mind... no one cares anyway. Sharp rule.


AGREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 now why didnt i just say that



Posted by: Kevbodian

i still dont believe it. the focal length of your shots was not right. you were taking shots in like close, facial mode when you should have had your focus on infinity for scenic shots.

the k-tai pics were much better as you can see the right mode was used. you must have done something weird yourself because there's no way sharp would market a phone in 2006 with sub-gx32 quality shots.



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleAllEvil
Very disappointing
Macro shots are... you can see this, worth nothing, phone didn`t focus properly. In this case I won`t blame phone for this, but I must say that 903 sometimes has problems when focusing in macro mode while at the same time 902 can focus without any problems. Maybe 910 has same problems with macro as 903?
Outdoor pics also could be better BUT this can`t be used as excuse for overall poor quality. Full size pictures indeed resemble me 902 pics in native resolution but are even worse! I took better pics with my 902! Outdoor pictures (first 4) when scaled down to 1024x768 have quality similiar to typical photos taken with 902 however pictures with girl are much better, a little bit closer to 903 quality.
For me, this looks like poor quality 2~3MP photo interpolated to 5MP. Pictures are so blurry and grainy at the same time that it`s hard to belive that these pics were taken by 5MPix CCD sensor. Just look at my 903 pics scaled up from 2048x1536 (903sh native) to 2592x1944 (910sh native) resolution, no special filters used, different light conditions (indoor, outdoor, dark, night):



a lot better than 910sh!
I guess 910 owners would be happy to see pictures of similiar quality to my 903 "5MP" pictures
It`s a real shame

PS: Post pictures in thumbnails! Some people may want to read this forum on PDA or PSP... Don`t be cruel


i found the macro to be very useful with the 903. you just gotta know when to use it (pictures of testpoints etc)



Posted by: jeebjp

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevbodian
i still dont believe it. the focal length of your shots was not right. you were taking shots in like close, facial mode when you should have had your focus on infinity for scenic shots.

the k-tai pics were much better as you can see the right mode was used. you must have done something weird yourself because there's no way sharp would market a phone in 2006 with sub-gx32 quality shots.


Agreed, the 910SH looks to me as if it needs good focusing and setting-up. If the camera is not focused right, it will look like the shots before (and like the background on the close-up portrait shots of K-Tai).



Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevbodian
i found the macro to be very useful with the 903. you just gotta know when to use it (pictures of testpoints etc)

I know how to use macro very well. It`s all about lens and software in 903. 903 often gets "confused" while focusing in macro mode. It looks like phone is missing focal point and going too far. I have to repeat focusing untill phone catch the spot and shows "green". This is annoying. I`m using macro very often, and I was doing same with 902. 902 was much better and could focus at shorter distance.



Posted by: Havo

Yea I'm a little disappointed myself but it's still wcdma only so it's not gonna bother me really. I just would've expected sharp to top every other manufacturer in terms on camera once again.



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleAllEvil
I know how to use macro very well. It`s all about lens and software in 903. 903 often gets "confused" while focusing in macro mode. It looks like phone is missing focal point and going too far. I have to repeat focusing untill phone catch the spot and shows "green". This is annoying. I`m using macro very often, and I was doing same with 902. 902 was much better and could focus at shorter distance.


yes, tis true. I usually find that the thing comes red because there isnt enough light for the lens to focus properly or to believe that it is. its just a camera on a phone tho.





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