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Posted by: bmstrong

Any word on when this is released? I'd rather spend the money on this than pick up a S620...

Posted by: futuredoc

Will be available in late jan around the same price if not a bit more. I picked up a dash for $299 without extension of my contract which is a fantastic price for a device like this imo. If 3G is a priority for you, then wait for the cavalier, otherwise the excalibur is pretty much the same device with a better battery life (due to the TI OMAP processor; cavalier has a samsung 400 Mhz processor which is bound to provide lesser battery life).

Posted by: bmstrong

Better camera as well, correct?

Posted by: JwY

should be a 300mhz processor based on what i last heard.

and yes a 2mp cam.

Posted by: ARHYTHMATIK

What are the bands this device is going to use for 3G data? Anyone know yet?

Posted by: DanITman

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredoc

Will be available in late jan around the same price if not a bit more. I picked up a dash for $299 without extension of my contract which is a fantastic price for a device like this imo. If 3G is a priority for you, then wait for the cavalier, otherwise the excalibur is pretty much the same device with a better battery life (due to the TI OMAP processor; cavalier has a samsung 400 Mhz processor which is bound to provide lesser battery life).

Jan.....I thought it wasn't coming until Sept of 07'. Where did you get January from?

Posted by: futuredoc

Guts are same as the TyTn except that this uses the smartphone OS with AKU 3.5. Regarding the cam, well i suggest that you dont expect much despite the rise in megapixel count; best example of this is the TyTn - Trinity! While both have a 2 MP cam, the TyTn takes better shots than the Trinity. Better than both of these is the JAMin which also has a 2 MP cam but takes superior quality images.

So, again, take the cam thing with a pinch of salt ;-)

Posted by: futuredoc

Retail version in Jan and the carrier version (Cingular) much later. My source is.....me! ;-)

Posted by: DanITman

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredoc

Retail version in Jan and the carrier version (Cingular) much later. My source is.....me! ;-)

I think you should check your sources

Just kidding

If this thing was going to hit in January I think we would have seen many more pre production units hitting the street. So far we have only seen a few live shots of the device. HTC is notorious for sending out many pre production units for review and to get the market buzzing.

Posted by: Holishi

sept. 2007 release is too long too far to be possible. The educated guess is Q1 2007.

Posted by: JwY

i say between mid Q1 and early Q2

Posted by: DanITman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Holishi

sept. 2007 release is too long too far to be possible. The educated guess is Q1 2007.

Possible.....

You think they can't do it?

Will just have to wait and see, hopefully we get it in the spring that would be nice.

Posted by: Holishi

I just don't see why they would wait that long to release it. When the live shots of the device surfaced, you know the launch date is just several months away.

Posted by: JwY

if it takes them until sept to release it, samsung and others will probably have something better by then
around that time i expect crossbow for one, maybe gps

Posted by: DanITman

Does anyone know if the Cavalier is suppose to get Crossbow?

Posted by: JwY

depends on when it's released, if it comes out in Q1 it's not that likely

Posted by: terryjohnson16

http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/i...on=expand,12879

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/smar...lier-217058.php

http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/ne..._id=815&start=0
From Bengalboy:

Posted by: jsamuels

Just curious if anyone has heard anything more about this model? I'm thinking about downgrading -- form factor -- from my TyTN.

Posted by: carsmovies

My guess would also be Q1.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

I am surprised that HTC didn't show off the Cavalier at CES 2007.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

I am surprised that HTC didn't show off the Cavalier at CES 2007.

How you know they didn't? Were you there?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

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Originally Posted by carsmovies

How you know they didn't? Were you there?

No, but common sense, would tell you that if they did, the gadget websites would have showed it, and gave some details about its specs and when it might become available.

Posted by: DanITman

I don't think HTC had anything fancy at their booth. Geek.com had a small posting on it but nothing big.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanITman

I don't think HTC had anything fancy at their booth. Geek.com had a small posting on it but nothing big.

Thank You! Atleast someone has info about what HTC showed off at CES.

Posted by: JMBrown

any more news about this device, specifically the release date? I really want to purchase an S620, but I'd like to hold out for this as long as possible.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMBrown

any more news about this device, specifically the release date? I really want to purchase an S620, but I'd like to hold out for this as long as possible.

I don't think they will announce it til 3GSM in February, or even CTIA in March.

Posted by: JMBrown

Just a little update. According to Boy Genius, HTC has told its distributors that this device has been "postponed indefinitely." Looks like I'll be going with the S620 myself. Here's a link to the Boy Genius Report article: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...g-htc-cavalier/

Posted by: futuredoc

Thats cos they are considering putting in the PPC OS instead of the Smartphone OS. There's also a possibility of bumping it with GPS.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredoc

Thats cos they are considering putting in the PPC OS instead of the Smartphone OS. There's also a possibility of bumping it with GPS.

How do you know that?

Posted by: futuredoc

Errr, i have my sources.

Posted by: Ago Vino Verita

^^^ That would be more of a *bump.*
That would be a software redesign.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredoc

Thats cos they are considering putting in the PPC OS instead of the Smartphone OS. There's also a possibility of bumping it with GPS.

ppc without touchscreen?

Posted by: psxp

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredoc

Errr, i have my sources.

ahhh.. I dont think so.. see LIVE pictures here:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/16/...e-htc-cavalier/

WM Smartphone for sure

Posted by: Prom1

I really hope BG is wrong on the indefinately postponed bit. He's been off before, and I dont see why HTC would delay this as working samples have debuted on sites since November last year.

Unless the HTC Wings is scheduled to debut soon > which I HIGHLY doubt ....
OR
Unless Tmobile is trying to rid their stock of orders of the HTC S620/Dash and want to replace it with this device (HTC S630) then there is no point to delay it.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Maybe T-Mobile requested that phone, and HTC decided to pull it, to add the UMTS 1700MHz band on the phone. I think that would require a new UMTS radio chip.

Posted by: jsamuels

Quote:

Originally Posted by futuredoc

Thats cos they are considering putting in the PPC OS instead of the Smartphone OS. There's also a possibility of bumping it with GPS.

If PPC it would be renamed P630. Doubt it.

Posted by: hope4jsl

Would be cool with GPS though....

I am waiting on this phone.

Posted by: DanITman

They might have had no support for it in the states. Cingular doesn't need it because they are committed to the 3G blackjack. T-Mobile doesn't need an upgrade to the Dash until their 3G launches. So basically no one would buy it except for us

Posted by: Prom1

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanITman

They might have had no support for it in the states. Cingular doesn't need it because they are committed to the 3G blackjack. T-Mobile doesn't need an upgrade to the Dash until their 3G launches. So basically no one would buy it except for us

Cingular got their version of the TyTN though .... Cingular's BlackJack doesnt have Triband HSDPA/UMTS does it? No. BlackJac doesnt have WiFi does it? No (SGH-i600 does but its NOT the BlackJack).

Lastly there are MUCH more providers in the GSM network world; and much larger customer base and $$ Cashflow.

Posted by: DanITman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prom1

I'm sure the average customer knows that this phone only has tri band UMTS/HSDPA (sarcastic). THis phone has Dual Band UMTS/HSDPA which will work fine in the US (which the phone was made for). Edge will also be fine in areas where the UMTS doesn't cover. The average business customer doeesn't need Wifi, just take a glance at 90% of the blackberry's.

When the GSM version of the MOTO Q fell through Cingular went shoping to other manufactures to look for a similar phone. Samsung had a good product and so did HTC. Cingular went with Samsung and T-Mobile decided to go to HTC. I think Cinugular is happy with what the Blackjack has to offer. The reason they upgraded the 8125 to the 8525 was for the 3G upgrade. Since the blackjack already does UMTS/HSDPA there is not need to replace it yet.

Posted by: hardhat

And if Cingular does want to replace it, they may go with the Samsung SCH-i760, due out in March 07. Adds Wifi and some more creative keyboarding.

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/7378.html

I'm personally hoping for the Cavalier ASAP...

Why is is to hard to buy the Dash unlocked? I only found a couple of sites. Amazon in France has it, not here.

Posted by: stephman

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardhat

And if Cingular does want to replace it, they may go with the Samsung SCH-i760, due out in March 07. Adds Wifi and some more creative keyboarding.

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/7378.html

I'm personally hoping for the Cavalier ASAP...

Why is is to hard to buy the Dash unlocked? I only found a couple of sites. Amazon in France has it, not here.

SCH-i760 is a CDMA phone. Samsung would have to make a GSM version to work on Cingular's...err AT&T's networks

Posted by: JMBrown

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardhat

Why is is to hard to buy the Dash unlocked? I only found a couple of sites. Amazon in France has it, not here.

You should be able to find one in the For Sale/Trade forum in the PPC forum. Also, you can purchase the S620 from quite a few online vendors.

Posted by: hardhat

So why do I see S630 is some places and S650 in others? The reports I read say (Dec 26 in France) that it will be called S650 in Europe. Yet we all saw the box with S630 clearly written on it. I doubt they will give the same product two different names, since the name S620 is used in both the US and France.

Not that I care about the name, just wondering if there is more than one version or what the confusion here is. Then this site on Jan 17

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archive...sneak_peek.html

says there will be two versions, a triband UMTS/HSPDA 850/1900/2100 and a quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE 820/900/1800/1900. What's up with that? And why the weird numbers?

I want to wait, but if there's a deal breaker I'd rather know about it now...

Posted by: jsamuels

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardhat

So why do I see S630 is some places and S650 in others? The reports I read say (Dec 26 in France) that it will be called S650 in Europe. Yet we all saw the box with S630 clearly written on it. I doubt they will give the same product two different names, since the name S620 is used in both the US and France.

Not that I care about the name, just wondering if there is more than one version or what the confusion here is. Then this site on Jan 17

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archive...sneak_peek.html

says there will be two versions, a triband UMTS/HSPDA 850/1900/2100 and a quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE 820/900/1800/1900. What's up with that? And why the weird numbers?

I want to wait, but if there's a deal breaker I'd rather know about it now...

Just Googled S650 -- most results call it the Cavalier and have the same specs as other sites describing the S630. Sure is interesting.

Posted by: Prom1

I think the confusion was analysts or bloggers figured that "S650" sounded like a better upgrade code name than S630. As the production run got more finalized it was officially called the S630.

However there could quite possibly be 2 different versions - but what would be the point? 2 hardware radio's would increase production costs - HTC has already demonstrated just 1 version for most of their devices UNLESS its been branded.

I see the S650 code meant for TMobile (same radio/hardware specs) but most likely unlocked from HTC it'll be the S630.

Posted by: edmc

Recent radio chips can support various permutations of frequencies (though not all simultaneously). Re the T-Mobile-specific so-called S650, this may just be the very same S630 configured for T-Mobile's 3G. One can hope...

Posted by: hardhat

Quote:

Originally Posted by edmc

Recent radio chips can support various permutations of frequencies (though not all simultaneously). Re the T-Mobile-specific so-called S650, this may just be the very same S630 configured for T-Mobile's 3G. One can hope...

Except that the first place I saw "S650" mentioned was on a French site saying that was the name for release in Europe.
http://www.mobinaute.com/67472-smar...u-htc-s650.html

Posted by: homobile

i'm just hoping that they're waiting on T-Mobile's us 3G.I love my s620,but finally getting 3G would def be worth the wait

Posted by: Prom1

Quote:

Originally Posted by homobile

i'm just hoping that they're waiting on T-Mobile's us 3G.I love my s620,but finally getting 3G would def be worth the wait

Personally I hope not. that would screw my chances of getting one that works with Rogers/Fido here in Canada. Why couldnt Tmobile get 850/1900Mhz 3G like AT&T Wireless could?

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prom1

Personally I hope not. that would screw my chances of getting one that works with Rogers/Fido here in Canada. Why couldnt Tmobile get 850/1900Mhz 3G like AT&T Wireless could?

T-Mobile can't use those bands since they use them for 2G voice services. Thats why they had to buy more spectrum in the AWS auction that took place a few months ago. They bought the paired 3G spectrum of UMTS 1700/2100MHz. Overseas and 850/1900MHz 3G phones currently out, won't work with T-Mobile's upcoming 3G network.

Posted by: nzoka

Quote:

Originally Posted by edmc

In fact if you go to the qualcomm site (www.qualcomm.com) you will see that the MSM6280 chipset can be used with the RFR6275 and RTR6275 RF chipsets and the PM6650 Power management IC, can support the current UTMS standards including the TMo 2100/1700. If these modes can be selected via software, a phone designed with this mode will be truly worldwide UTMS.
Does anyone know what Chipset will be used for the S630/S650 ?

Posted by: LBarouf

It's UMTS (actually, it's more like HSDPA), not UTMS. Anywho... darn 1700. Now we will need quad band 3G on top of quad band GSM, just what we needed. TyTn is dual band only (850/1900 for NA) where the Cavalier might actually be triband.

Posted by: Prom1

Quote:

Originally Posted by LBarouf

Now we will need quad band 3G on top of quad band GSM, just what we needed.

Tell me about it

Posted by: terryjohnson16

I hope this isn't true, but on BoyGenius' website, someone named "Mr. Terry", said that it won't be coming out at all. By the way, that person is NOT me.

Posted by: JMBrown

wow! I hope that is incorrect. I have been holding out for this device to be released!

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Maybe they are re-configuring it. I wonder if they are putting Crossbow on it, and making it for T-Mobile USA.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Who here wants a S630? Raise your hands. Well, if you can't wait, here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-S...bayphotohosting

Posted by: Prom1

Well HTC sure doesn't seem to be making any contracts for having it branded with providers. Tmobile UK/Germany just announced the S620 as the MDA Mail.

I fear that the Vox is to replace the S630. but WHY?! I don't want a mechanical monster that'll get dusty internals and eventually wear out or have sliding issues. 1 shell, perfect design = S630!

GIVE US THE S630 HTC please!

Posted by: gregski

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

Who here wants a S630? Raise your hands. Well, if you can't wait, here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-S...bayphotohosting

At that price, it better respect me in the morning.

Posted by: JwY

i wouldn't want to buy a prototype model at that much especially since there my be no more support.

crossbow would be a nice refit. if htc doesn't bring it out, competitors would be happy to fill the gap.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

Who here wants a S630? Raise your hands. Well, if you can't wait, here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-HTC-S...bayphotohosting

Talking about price gouging.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

I was shocked when I saw that on ebay and at that price.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prom1

Well HTC sure doesn't seem to be making any contracts for having it branded with providers. Tmobile UK/Germany just announced the S620 as the MDA Mail.

I fear that the Vox is to replace the S630. but WHY?! I don't want a mechanical monster that'll get dusty internals and eventually wear out or have sliding issues. 1 shell, perfect design = S630!

GIVE US THE S630 HTC please!

Where do u see that they announced the S620 as the MDA Mail?

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

Where do u see that they announced the S620 as the MDA Mail?

http://www.t-mobile.de/unternehmen/...18010-_,00.html
black is nice.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Their version looks nice. But, I wonder what their version has that T-Mobile USA's version doesn't, and vice versa. I know theirs won't have the My-Faves software.

Posted by: Kid1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

I was shocked when I saw that on ebay and at that price.

and it's USED!!!

Quote:

The 3G is tri-band, 850/1900/2100 and I have been zipping along Cingular's network without a hitch so far. HSDPA baby!

Also, I don't think he knows the product because his note says that without 850 Mhz, it won't work in some areas - even though the Cavalier has 850!

-K

Posted by: Kid1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

http://www.t-mobile.de/unternehmen/...18010-_,00.html
black is nice.

did you notice they put back the joggr and got rid of the volume only?

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid1972

did you notice they put back the joggr and got rid of the volume only?

yup, it's the exca200 model instead of the dash which is the exca100.

Posted by: Kid1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

yup, it's the exca200 model instead of the dash which is the exca100.

Is the only difference between the 100 and 200 the joggr?

I'm assuming that if they come out with a crossbow upgrade for the MDA Mail it will work on the original Dash (which I have running the S620 firmware which is probably a 200).

-K

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid1972

it's supposed to be the joggr and the keypad varies from location. if crossbow gets released, yes it will work, but i doubt they will do an official release. a leak is more likely. the s620 is exca200. seems like a lot of dash users have been having issues such as the screen line, but they're also a lot more exca100 users on this board. i'm hoping there will be more hackers and developers since there are far fewer than for ppc devices (roms?).

Posted by: Kid1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

i'm hoping there will be more hackers and developers since there are far fewer than for ppc devices (roms?).

Are you also on XDA? That's where all the hacking is taking place (and right now there isn't much). With the exception of getting the s620 ROM on my dash, not much else.

-K

Posted by: JwY

i'm there under the same name, but like you said, not much happening. i'm hoping for some cooked roms later on or at least extracted parts of roms to get the best of everything.

Posted by: Kid1972

I've been spending my time comparing both the Dash and s620 ROMS trying to figure out how to kill XT9. I'm assuming every ROM will be plagued with it eventually...

Posted by: JwY

i'm sure it's on the extended rom customization. did you try a hard reset and then prevent the customization from happening by pulling the battery? i know it works for ppc, but i don't know if smartphone would work the same way and nobody has tried it.

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...75&postcount=18

i want the hold to get alternative function which isn't present on the s620 rom.

Posted by: untjoker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid1972

and it's USED!!!

Also, I don't think he knows the product because his note says that without 850 Mhz, it won't work in some areas - even though the Cavalier has 850!

-K

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...g-htc-cavalier/

If you read the auction description, it's word for word almost with Boy Genius' unboxing report of the Cavalier. He is either Boy genius, or he's just copying BG's writing

Posted by: Kid1972

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

i'm sure it's on the extended rom customization. did you try a hard reset and then prevent the customization from happening by pulling the battery? i know it works for ppc, but i don't know if smartphone would work the same way and nobody has tried it.

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...75&postcount=18

i want the hold to get alternative function which isn't present on the s620 rom.

I didn't think Smartphone *HAD* an extended ROM. It's part of the OS that does it. Otherwise it would be in the system registry and we would be able to remove (or disable) it.

I have a couple Dashes in the office I haven't installed yet so I'll hard reset one of them and try it. Would be cool if that did the trick... Will let you know in this thread what happens...

-K

Posted by: terryjohnson16

What is the diff between the 100 and the 200 model? How do yall know which model is which? What will be the diff software wise on the regular T-Mobile Dash, and this new black model?

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid1972

thanks. i'm not entirely sure either, but like i said, there's not much development so i may as well see what i can do and what i can come up with.

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

What is the diff between the 100 and the 200 model? How do yall know which model is which? What will be the diff software wise on the regular T-Mobile Dash, and this new black model?

it says under the battery which is the most reliable way. otherwise you can tell by the touchstrip. the exca200 has the joggr scroll strip while the exca100 has the volume strip (notice it doesn't have the back arrow and mail icons on the ends). the differences are mainly cosmetic, just like the hermes to a lesser degree. the mda mail is probably exca200 or if they want to, it could be an exca300.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Is it me, or is that so-called Black MDA Mail, the same as the T-Mobile Dash? It may look black, but really isn't, based on their lighting at the time they took those pics.

Posted by: Kid1972

the dash has a different joggr control thingy.

Posted by: JwY

it's not the exact same, look carefully at the touch strip. it could be black because of the angle, but in this case, it's black in every angle.

Posted by: JMBrown

Not trying to mod or anything here, but you guys think we could stick to discussing the S630 release date, and not the S620? Again, no disrespect, just requesting that we stay on topic.

Posted by: terryjohnson16

What else is there to talk about? They haven't released any info about it other than whats is already out, and what boygenius showed on his site. I wonder if they will wait til 3GSM in February, or at CTIA in March, to show it off.

Posted by: homobile

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

What else is there to talk about? They haven't released any info about it other than whats is already out, and what boygenius showed on his site. I wonder if they will wait til 3GSM in February, or at CTIA in March, to show it off.

I'm hoping to hear alot more out of 3gsm and ctia than what came out of ces,not alot of interesting stuff there this year

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by homobile

I'm hoping to hear alot more out of 3gsm and ctia than what came out of ces,not alot of interesting stuff there this year

CES isn't a phone only show. Its about all tech for the year. 3GSM, CTIA, and I think ceBIT, are for phones.

Posted by: homobile

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryjohnson16

CES isn't a phone only show. Its about all tech for the year. 3GSM, CTIA, and I think ceBIT, are for phones.

Yeah I know,but I get impatient waiting for the other shows.I'm pretty sure cebit is a phone show as well

Posted by: jsamuels

Wasn't announced today at 3GSM in Barcelona. 3 other devices were. Darn.

Posted by: Prom1

Don't loose hope just yet .... this is a recent review against its arc enemy ...

http://translate.google.com/transla...Flanguage_tools

Posted by: DanITman

I think it's safe to say that the S630 is a dead horse. We would have seen a release at 3GSM if they were going to release it. We might see it way in the future but not anytime soon.

I wanted this phone just as bad as you guys did. Looks like my S620 is staying put for a while.

Posted by: JwY

yup, it won't be out for a while if they didn't announce it with their line up at 3gsm. maybe they'll need some competition to stir them up.

Posted by: edmc

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanITman

I think it's safe to say that the S630 is a dead horse. We would have seen a release at 3GSM if they were going to release it.

Agreed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

maybe they'll need some competition to stir them up.

If "competition" causes a company to release a product before its time - I'll pass. If HTC was ready to announce/release this phone, they would have. More likely, it's getting challenging to get a phone with all these features crammed in there with adequate battery life. Sure, other phones have some or (nearly) all of the S630's features, but not in that small a platform.

For reference/comparison, I'm eagerly awaiting confirmation of a Moto Q9 with AWS 1700/2100 support and wondering about its battery life (given the current Q's limitations in that area). For support, I refer you to this url

Posted by: JwY

i'm probably going to pass on the moto just because it lacks wifi. one of the problems is that the cavalier was made so close to the excalibur's release. the excalibur hasn't even been our for half a year yet.

Posted by: Vircaci

So is this sticky gonna be removed or something?

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

i'm probably going to pass on the moto just because it lacks wifi. one of the problems is that the cavalier was made so close to the excalibur's release. the excalibur hasn't even been our for half a year yet.

Agreed. I think they aren't releasing it now for marketing reasons and not cause it isn't ready.

Posted by: Nas6034

Theirs a review for it

http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/re...tc-s650-en.shtm

Posted by: Prom1

Dead Link > and unless its a NEW recent dated review then its been posted before.

Posted by: CorporateMonkey

Read this review (i600 vs htc650)
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/re...c-s650-en.shtml

Posted by: psxp

hmm.. the S650 looks nicer than I originally thought

Posted by: DanITman

yahoo site says s630 is coming soon

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go/phones?os=wm

Posted by: jsamuels

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanITman

yahoo site says s630 is coming soon

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go/phones?os=wm

If you click the link under the s630 you go to HTC Europe site and a page listing their Q1 phones -- nothing on the s630 -- darn.

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanITman

yahoo site says s630 is coming soon

http://mobile.yahoo.com/go/phones?os=wm

it still won't release until htc makes an official announcement at the very least.

Posted by: psxp

any news anyone?

Posted by: JwY

it looks like this will be on the back burner for a while since we haven't heard anything. i wouldn't expect it out until summer at the earliest. if they keep it up, they could just skip it and release a newer one with gps.

Posted by: atomicshockwave

to be released this october/ november

Posted by: terryjohnson16

Quote:

Originally Posted by atomicshockwave

to be released this october/ november

You mean on T-Mobile or in general? How do you know this?

Posted by: MI_canuck

Seriously! Will the S630 ever get released? Is this "postponed indefinitely" mean DOA?

Could it be that it's delayed because of T-Mo's recent 1700 MHz 3G band auction win? Could it be that HTC is altering the S630 to be 1700/2100 UMTS, rather than 850/1900/2100, because of T-Mo?

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by MI_canuck

Seriously! Will the S630 ever get released? Is this "postponed indefinitely" mean DOA?

Could it be that it's delayed because of T-Mo's recent 1700 MHz 3G band auction win? Could it be that HTC is altering the S630 to be 1700/2100 UMTS, rather than 850/1900/2100, because of T-Mo?

adding the 1700 is a possibility.

the major reason why they haven't released is is most likely that there aren't (enough) providers picking it up as of yet. cingular won't likely get it since they have the blackjack and probably the upcoming q9. t-mobile usa doesn't have its 3g completely ready and as you said the 1700 will be essentially a new band for manufacturers. in canada, the only gsm provider just released the s621. in europe, the samsung i600 just came out which similar specs except the quadband. i'd also expect them to see the motorola Q series. the cavalier just had some bad timing, being too soon after the excalibur and no provider really wanting to pick it up.

we'll just need to wait and see what happens since there's a plethora of new devices coming out this year. if the cavalier doesn't come out, i'm sure there's something else that would be comparable or maybe htc ill end up making its successor.

Posted by: MI_canuck

I also say mention somewhere of an S650... Could it be the S630 got superseded before even being released?

Posted by: HTC_lover

no, its still coming, c, HTC made the s630 b4 ever asking tmobile WHEN they would want it, tmobile will still be releasing it this oct/november when THEY wanted it. HTC just jumped the gun. :-)

Posted by: Nas6034

Quote:

Originally Posted by MI_canuck

I also say mention somewhere of an S650... Could it be the S630 got superseded before even being released?

The S650 is probally in the proccess of being made, but T mo will release the S630, when ever they release 3G...

Posted by: shauge

Anything new?

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=676

Are saying this month

Posted by: kingsclear

Here is an actual date that the phone will be available to order...May 9.

http://www.negrielectronics.com/pro...7fde655dce15af6

Posted by: spacehog

been using mine for about 3 weeks now. device is rock solid, color scheme is fantastic (brushed dark grey metal) and its my understanding that it will be officially released everywhere in WWE in the second week of May.

got a pic but its 56k and site wouldnt let me upload anything bigger than 15k. any advice?

Posted by: psxp

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacehog

been using mine for about 3 weeks now. device is rock solid, color scheme is fantastic (brushed dark grey metal) and its my understanding that it will be officially released everywhere in WWE in the second week of May.

got a pic but its 56k and site wouldnt let me upload anything bigger than 15k. any advice?

can you upload photos to flickr or photobucket ?

What OS is it running?

thanks!!

Posted by: loydbrahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacehog

So where did you get it at?

Posted by: spacehog

the phone ive got now is running wm5, but i think at official release itll come with wm6. its definitely going to get upgraded officially at some point.

cant say where i got it from, but quick pic can be seen here:
pic

Posted by: ishakir

Ugh, cannot wait for this thing!!

I wish they would just deliver a set release date

Posted by: JwY

Okay, good news if it's right. It's coming in May. If Dopod releases it soon, the normal HTC shouldn't be far behind.

http://www.smartphonethoughts.com/f...129adfa6edf058e

Posted by: psxp

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacehog

the phone ive got now is running wm5, but i think at official release itll come with wm6. its definitely going to get upgraded officially at some point.

cant say where i got it from, but quick pic can be seen here:
pic

any chance of some more CLEARER photos at different angles?

thanks!

Posted by: hberbout123

the latest info we have from our supplier..
"HTC decided not to release this phone"

they took it off the road map..

Posted by: jsamuels

Quote:

Originally Posted by hberbout123

the latest info we have from our supplier..
"HTC decided not to release this phone"

they took it off the road map..

I hope they find some way to continue with this form factor -- S630 or not. I find their PDA phones just too bulky. Ugh . . . not great news.

Posted by: spacehog

it is indeed cancelled in europe, but it will still launch in some regions so die-hard fans can rejoice..

Posted by: hberbout123

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsamuels

I hope they find some way to continue with this form factor -- S630 or not. I find their PDA phones just too bulky. Ugh . . . not great news.

Sorry jsamuels..

its bad news indeed.. they just canceled my order and refunded the money

so its gone for good..

Posted by: Prom1

Does this mean no more Dopod C720W?! I MUST HAVE THIS!

Posted by: psxp

if it is indeed cancelled.. then maybe a new version will come with 3G, and Win Mobile Professional, scroll wheel instead of JOGGR ? - one can hope!!

Posted by: psxp

it was announced today:

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...r-as-c500-c730/

Posted by: DanITman

This is great news. I hope they sell an HTC branded one as well.

Posted by: jsamuels

Very cool. And I like the black case. Glad the form factor will continue.

Posted by: Prom1

YES YES YES!!!

Finally!
source http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3817 with full press release. and also in BLACK!

Bit pricey but not out of the question.

This june the DASH/Rogers S621 market value will drop with this launching. I'll still get the S621 for the Wife, BUT for me its coming close to the BB 8800 or THIS. I like the Java J2EE RIM device but need multimedia for streaming video on this. but lack of VGA recording really pains me.

Posted by: boribadboy

does anyone know if the S630 will be available as an upgrade for the T-Mo Dash??

Posted by: dwkmi

Quote:

Originally Posted by boribadboy

does anyone know if the S630 will be available as an upgrade for the T-Mo Dash??

For a price, any phone is available as an upgrade. It doesn't matter what phone you have or want to have, it depends on how close you are to the end of your contract.

Gotta say.... I WANT that S630.

Posted by: john1027

Quote:

Originally Posted by boribadboy

does anyone know if the S630 will be available as an upgrade for the T-Mo Dash??

To date, no US carrier has announced any plans to carry this device. With the recent announcement by Dopod, it would seem logical that an unbranded HTC model would also emerge but that is clouded by some of the things you can read about earlier in this thread (e.g. the cancellation of SMG's order by HTC). Unless a U.S carrier picks it up, the only choice will be to get the Dopod, sim unlock it (if it isn't already) and set it up with your T-Mo or Cingular sim. If HTC makes avaialble an unbranded model, it will be unlocked already. Non-carrier subsidized prices are always higher and you have to deal with the warranty issues where if anything goes wrong, the device is taking a sometimes long overseas trip in most cases.

Posted by: boribadboy

ahhhh ok...thanks for the info guys...I mean I would buy a Dopod then unlock it but b4 I do that I will just wait to see if any US Carrier ends up picking it up b/c it is a really sweet device

Posted by: Prom1

I'm more concerned about the pending purchase of Dopod International Inc by HTC announced yesterday just shortly after the C730 as well.

HTC to eventually kill of the Dopod Int. Inc. brand then they can fully restrict exports of this device, which I HOPE never occurs.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

How can you purchase a Dopod phone in the US? Are there good online dealers?

Thanks

Posted by: DialekT

MY question exactly..I'm ridding myself of this extra weight. Nokia E61i and Blackberry 8800. I was gonna grab a Blackberry Curve or Dash...but now seeing that this phone might really be a reality just made me wet my pants !

Posted by: carsmovies

I was lucky enough to get a HTC S630 production sample unit last night. I'll post some pics either this evening or tomorrow. Let me know if you have any questions.

Posted by: DialekT

Well the S630 is going to rebadged as the Dopod 730? And Question one would have to definitely be if the Joggr strip is changed in any way to actually make it more functional? How's the size of the unit compared to the DASH? From the specs it looks like it has a bigger battery...? No flash for the camera? I was going to literally gonna buy a Dash tomorrow after spending the last month with the Blackberry 8800, Nokia E61i, Nokia E61 just to hold me over..

Trying to knock all the questions out of the way...dopod unit will be black? When we should expect this thing to be really out? I'm probably gonna be out of a phone tomorrow so unfortunately i WILL have to purchase something for the time being..lol

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by DialekT

Well the S630 is going to rebadged as the Dopod 730? And Question one would have to definitely be if the Joggr strip is changed in any way to actually make it more functional? How's the size of the unit compared to the DASH? From the specs it looks like it has a bigger battery...? No flash for the camera? I was going to literally gonna buy a Dash tomorrow after spending the last month with the Blackberry 8800, Nokia E61i, Nokia E61 just to hold me over..

Trying to knock all the questions out of the way...dopod unit will be black? When we should expect this thing to be really out? I'm probably gonna be out of a phone tomorrow so unfortunately i WILL have to purchase something for the time being..lol

The strip hasn't been changed much from what i remember from the s620. The battery is a 1050. There is no flash. The unit is more square and a bit thicker. Maybe a little taller but i don't have a s620 here to compare to. It feels very nice in the hand and is solid. I was able to get download speeds of about 1mbps on dslreports.

The earpiece volume is very loud and sounds clear. I'll do some rf tests later today.

Posted by: JwY

HTC or Dopod or unbranded Jorg?

http://www.dopodasia.com/global/hk/...t_c730_fea.html

Posted by: evilgabbie

Jorg, I told HTC you have the unit they will be @ your house sorted hahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

HTC or Dopod or unbranded Jorg?

http://www.dopodasia.com/global/hk/...t_c730_fea.html

It's a htc unit but doesn't have any branding or markings on it.

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsmovies

It's a htc unit but doesn't have any branding or markings on it.

What colour are the FN keys? Green or blue or orange?

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

What colour are the FN keys? Green or blue or orange?

They are green.

Posted by: carsmovies

Here's some pics.

Posted by: DialekT

thanks for making me wet myself.

I just bought my Dash like 5 minutes ago. I think I'm gonna cry

http://www.dopodasia.com/global/SEA...t_c730_fea.html <- lookie

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by DialekT

http://www.dopodasia.com/global/SEA...t_c730_fea.html <- lookie

I posted that a few posts up.

Nice pics Jorg. How do you like it so far? Why did you sell the N95 so quickly?

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

I posted that a few posts up.

Nice pics Jorg. How do you like it so far? Why did you sell the N95 so quickly?

I've already had several N95's and they are good but I really don't need the fancy camera and the GPS which doesn't work all that well anyways. Also, I didn't really like the keypad that much.

The S630 is very nice so far.

Posted by: shauge

How can we get this device to denmark asap i want NOW

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by shauge

How can we get this device to denmark asap i want NOW

It hasn't been released yet.

Posted by: shauge

then it's not fair that you got one then

Posted by: JwY

Quote:

Originally Posted by shauge

then it's not fair that you got one then

I'm sure you can give him an offer he can't refuse if you want it bad enough.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by JwY

I'm sure you can give him an offer he can't refuse if you want it bad enough.

Yeah that's it!!!!

Posted by: shauge

I'll do that if in win the Lotto to night

Could you tell us som more about this device, what do you think about it.

and how did you get the device?

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by shauge

I'll do that if in win the Lotto to night

Could you tell us som more about this device, what do you think about it.

and how did you get the device?

I like it. Can you be more specific with questions. It's a production sample unit so it's not as if you can search around to find one. I just lucked out by having the right contact.

Posted by: shauge

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsmovies

I like it. Can you be more specific with questions. It's a production sample unit so it's not as if you can search around to find one. I just lucked out by having the right contact.

And how do a person get the right contacts

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by shauge

And how do a person get the right contacts

Involve yourself into the cell phone community. I've had this hobby/addiction for 5 straight years now.

Posted by: Slayer

The C730 is already out and available in Hong Kong. See: http://1010.hkcsl.com/jsp/handsets_....jsp?model=1195

I nearly bought one just now but my mate has a discount at the place, so we'll go buy it tomorrow, which will allow me to save around HKD200. Will let you guys know how good it is.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

The C730 is already out and available in Hong Kong. See: http://1010.hkcsl.com/jsp/handsets_....jsp?model=1195

I nearly bought one just now but my mate has a discount at the place, so we'll go buy it tomorrow, which will allow me to save around HKD200. Will let you guys know how good it is.

That price seems too good to be true.

Posted by: Slayer

The HKD is very weak at the moment since it is linked to the USD. I assure you that it is the proper price.

1010 is also a very reputable operation. They are the "premium" arm of CSL, which used to be part of what used to be called Hong Kong Telecom. This is no fly-by-night operation.

I assure you that I am not lying about having seen it. My own provider does not even have it yet - they said it would only be out in June/July and gave me some lame excuse about the need to re-load WM6. However, I think that was something they have made up due to 1010 either having gotten the exclusive rights to sell it for the first few weeks and/or having bought up the first weeks' allocation. That means they'll probably lose out on my money.

If you don't believe me then I would be happy to take pictures of my C730 using my S300's camera.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

The HKD is very weak at the moment since it is linked to the USD. I assure you that it is the proper price.

1010 is also a very reputable operation. They are the "premium" arm of CSL, which used to be part of what used to be called Hong Kong Telecom. This is no fly-by-night operation.

I assure you that I am not lying about having seen it. My own provider does not even have it yet - they said it would only be out in June/July and gave me some lame excuse about the need to re-load WM6. However, I think that was something they have made up due to 1010 either having gotten the exclusive rights to sell it for the first few weeks and/or having bought up the first weeks' allocation. That means they'll probably lose out on my money.

If you don't believe me then I would be happy to take pictures of my C730 using my S300's camera.

we'll see when you have it.

Posted by: Slayer

Heh, the amount of totally unwarranted suspicion on this forum is unbelievable.

Does the FACT that Dopod now have it listed as a product on their official webpage help?
http://www.dopodasia.com/global/SEA...t_c730_fea.html

I even question the relevance of posting pictures of it just to satisfy a bunch of paranoid people who obviously assume that everyone trying to be helpful is attention-whoring. FFS, I have better things to do (and other ways of getting my kicks) than fooling people on an Internet forum.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

Heh, the amount of totally unwarranted suspicion on this forum is unbelievable.

who said that you're the one doing the fooling? Just cause a etailer has it listed on their site for sale does not necessarily mean thay actually have physical stock ready to ship.

Posted by: Slayer

For the love of God, it is a major retailer with actual stores. I asked the guy in the shop whether they had stock. He said "Yes".

Anyway, I'll get one soon enough.

Posted by: shauge

I know somone living in shanghai, is there at shop there where i could by one? and would it be working in Denmark?

Posted by: indiglo

carsmovies - how do you find the joggr? I find it way to "touchy". I turned off the scrolling option. It would scroll while I was typing. Finger were not even over it, just real close. Curious to hear your thoughts on it.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by indiglo

carsmovies - how do you find the joggr? I find it way to "touchy". I turned off the scrolling option. It would scroll while I was typing. Finger were not even over it, just real close. Curious to hear your thoughts on it.

mine seems fine. Was yours charging while this happened cause i do find the joggr to be more sensitive while charging.

Posted by: a4toronto

man, i want this phone. if anyone can get one, pm me

Posted by: indiglo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by indiglo

mine seems fine. Was yours charging while this happened cause i do find the joggr to be more sensitive while charging.

this is just everyday use that I noticed it. Just curious, what ROM version do you have? Thanks

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by indiglo

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) Opera 8.65 [en])

this is just everyday use that I noticed it. Just curious, what ROM version do you have? Thanks

My ROM is 1.08.405.2 and the radio is 1.38.50.00. What about yours?

Posted by: Slayer

Here, pics of my phone. It is out and available. Everyone who is after one needs to stop fretting about whether it will ever be released. Just go find one.

The price was HKD3480 since I managed to get my friend's HKD200 discount. I don't care if some of you think it is "too good to be true". I have much better things to do with my time than scan my receipt.

Have not started using it yet since I have not yet charged it for 10 hours. I am therefore still using my S300 (which you can see in the pic of the box contents).

Posted by: indiglo

Wow, I need your ROM. Mine is outdated ROM 1.01V8 and Radio 1.25.50.00

I have to see if I can get a hold of a newer ROM. Could be the reason why my joggr is very touchy.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer

Here, pics of my phone. It is out and available. Everyone who is after one needs to stop fretting about whether it will ever be released. Just go find one.

The price was HKD3480 since I managed to get my friend's HKD200 discount. I don't care if some of you think it is "too good to be true". I have much better things to do with my time than scan my receipt.

Have not started using it yet since I have not yet charged it for 10 hours. I am therefore still using my S300 (which you can see in the pic of the box contents).

Congrats. So it's locked? I've never heard of a phone not being ready until charged for 10 hours. Why does it look like it's silver in the front and not all black?

Posted by: Slayer

Thanks! It's not locked. I just thought it'd be safer to charge it as they told me to, and I can't read the manual as it only comes with a Chinese one...

I think it looks silvery due to the flash. I forgot to take pics of the rear. It is sort of a shiny-brownish-black actually. Looks OK, even if it isn't pure black.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Slayer,

Is the OS in English? Do you know if any of the HK vendors ship to the US?

Thanks,
Josh

Posted by: sparky12

A couple of quick questions that I have for anyone who owns one...I have the S710 and was curious about the responsiveness of the device since it has a significantly faster processor or if that changes the user experience much at all. I'm also interested to know if there are any shipping options for US customers as well as the previoous question about English language support. It looks like it from the pics.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky12

A couple of quick questions that I have for anyone who owns one...I have the S710 and was curious about the responsiveness of the device since it has a significantly faster processor or if that changes the user experience much at all. I'm also interested to know if there are any shipping options for US customers as well as the previoous question about English language support. It looks like it from the pics.

It's very fast os.

Posted by: shauge

Questions/Request's

1. More pic please
2. how is the battery time?
3. How is the daily use of the phone
4. Is the os in english
5. and more to come

Posted by: indiglo

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky12

One thing I did not like about the S710 was it wouldnt keep up with my typing. It would miss a lot of letters. I have not yet noticed this problem with the Cavalier. You can notice the processor over the S710. The S710 is a nice phone for its size but to slow for me as power user. I just wish I had WM6 installed on my Cav.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by indiglo

My ROM that I mentioned was WM6. Yours wasn't?

Posted by: indiglo

Do you have the HTC or Dopod? Mine is one of the earlier models. I am trying to get a hold of a newer ROM.

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by indiglo

Do you have the HTC or Dopod? Mine is one of the earlier models. I am trying to get a hold of a newer ROM.

It's the unbranded htc.

Posted by: indiglo

Quote:

Originally Posted by carsmovies

It's the unbranded htc.

Same as mine...you just have a newer version. See if slayer can get me that ROM from the Dopod site. My S/N wont work to register. Thanks

Posted by: MontrealGSM

CARSMOVIES/SLAYER,

Is your devices enable to use the WM6 VoIP client?

Thanks

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealGSM

CARSMOVIES/SLAYER,

Is your devices enable to use the WM6 VoIP client?

Thanks

Dunno. It that a special app that's supposed to be included?

Posted by: MontrealGSM

VoIP support is part of Windows Mobile 6 and is an addition from the previous version of Windows Mobile (5). I don't have a Cavalier myself so can't verified if it is enable. It allow to make voice call over the internet at no or very low cost using the 3G or Wifi and it is fully integrated to your normal way of making call. i.e. when selecting a contact you would have the option to call home, work, mobile, internet call...
Some carrier ask the manufacturer to disable this option in the ROM. (I can understand why when you compare the rate of making a longdistance call to VoIP) I know it is disable in the T-Mobile Dash upgrade to WM6 but I don't know about the Dopod device and I'm pretty sure it is available on your device since it is an HTC one.

Posted by: MontrealGSM

You should be able to know if you have support to VoIP enabled on your device by opening File Explorer and browse to the \Windows directory. Make sure you select to display all hidden files and check if the following files exist in that folder:

ipdialplan.xml
dnsapi.dll
voipphonecanvas.dll
rtcdll.dll

Posted by: carsmovies

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealGSM

You should be able to know if you have support to VoIP enabled on your device by opening File Explorer and browse to the \Windows directory. Make sure you select to display all hidden files and check if the following files exist in that folder:

ipdialplan.xml
dnsapi.dll
voipphonecanvas.dll
rtcdll.dll

i can't find any of that.

Posted by: MontrealGSM

And you have select to display all hidden files?

I guess they haven't start to introduce this support yet... mayby we will see it on future ROM update.

Thanks for looking!

Posted by: Slayer

Sorry guys I am VERY VERY busy at the moment. I have only just had time to sync my contacts etc.

I will answer some questions/requests maybe over the weekend.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

BTW, if any one in HK can figure out a good way to buy some unlocked units and ship them to the US, I'd like one, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Posted by: john1230954

Is that a secondary camera for video chat on the front?

Also, can someone tell me what the difference between 3G and 3.5G?

The reviews claim that this is 3.5G, but what is HUSPDA then and it does not seem that the 630 has that!

Posted by: andresalazar

just checked with a friend in shanghai- he has his secretary contact several official dopod stores there, and she even called dopod directly. the phone is not available there yet, they said "end of the month", price unknown.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1230954

Is that a secondary camera for video chat on the front?

Also, can someone tell me what the difference between 3G and 3.5G?

The reviews claim that this is 3.5G, but what is HUSPDA then and it does not seem that the 630 has that!

3G = UMTS with an average data speed of 300 - 400 kbps
3.5G = UMTS w/ HSDPA (high speed downlink packet access) with average speeds of 800 - 1000 kbps.

The current generation of HSDPA tops out at 3.6 mbps although carriers are working on rolling out a 7.2mbps max version.

HSUPA is high speed uplink packet access for transferring data from the device to the network, such as uploading video, sending files, etc. AFAIK, HSUPA is not currently installed on any commercial networks.

Posted by: john1230954

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeilwerthSX90R

THANKS YOU!! I guess that would make HSUPA 3.75G.

4G is WiMax and the difference there is more speed and better bandwidth, right? Wimax still uses licensed spectrums doesn't it?

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1230954

THANKS YOU!! I guess that would make HSUPA 3.75G.

4G is WiMax and the difference there is more speed and better bandwidth, right? Wimax still uses licensed spectrums doesn't it?

I'm not sure what HSUPA would be considered since it is on the uplink side. My guess it that it's considered the other half of 3.5G. However, all of this 3.XG terminology is just marketing so we'll see.

WiMax will use licensed spectrum but, AFAIK, not the bands currently used for GSM / WCDMA / CDMA.

Again, 4G is mainly a marketing term. Different parties are exploring different technologies to deliver 4G speeds. Sprint seems like it will be first to market with their 4G (WiMax) and I've read it is because they already own spectrum licenses in a band that is good for WiMax. There are 4G upgrade paths for both CDMA and UMTS but WiMax is currently the only one that is mature enough to begin rolling out to consumers.

Posted by: sabesh

The Softbank X02HT versions look nifty:

Posted by: indiglo

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1230954

No that is not a camera. It is the light sensor.