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Keys presses are skipped when I type quickly (both Blackjack and Dash)
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Posted by: PINHEAD

I have noticed this annoying problem and did not see any threads about this. I am/was considering another Smartphone but I am realizing that this problem is on many more devices than I see being talked about.

The problem is that when I type on the Blackjack I have found that I have to go back and add letters that I know for certain I typed properly. The only way for me to avoid this is to type very slowly on the device. I decided to try out the Dash as well since so many people seem to really like it and I found the same problem. Now, the Blackjack is MUCH easier to type on since there is more space between the keys, but both of them just seem to ignore key presses.

Am I the only person who has noticed this? Does it just not bother anyone else? I can tell you for certain that I am not missing the keys with my fingers. I hear a very distinct click for each key press and still notice letters not showing up.

Posted by: mch

It's a well known problem with the Blackjack.

Posted by: PINHEAD

I experienced exactly the same thing on the Dash as well though. I reset the Dash and started new and it was still skipping keys as if I didn't know how to spell! I get the impression that it isn't all that rare of a problem since I have seen it on a number of Windows Mobile phones recently.

Posted by: PINHEAD

So, there are only two of use who have noticed this? Do the rest of you type slow or am I just picking up and trying the ONLY smartphones that have this problem? I have experienced this with the Dash, Blackjack, Q, as well as other smartphones and even a few Pocket PC phones.

Posted by: JwY

how fast do you type? i haven't had this problem, but maybe you type insanely fast. there are no problems with a BT keyboard if you're wondering.

Posted by: PBA_Seattle

I have the same problem...coming from a Razr and using a 10-key to alpha I dont think I am typing too fast, but my BlackJack has trouble keeping up, so I just type a little slower...no worries, a small price to play for such a nice piece of kit.

Posted by: mch

I've been trying out a Cingular 8525 for a few days now. It doesn't seem to have the same typing speed problem as the Blackjack. It's a different operating system though (AKU 2 vs AKU3, Pocketpc vs Smartphone).

Posted by: juiceppc

Overclock your BlackJack to 252 and you won't get the key skipping anymore. You'll also get a performance boost. You need to app unlock then use OMAPCLOCK. I was having the same problems until I overclocked. When it's overclocked the letters come up as fast as you can type them. It feels a lot better.

Posted by: PBA_Seattle

what is the downside, if any, to overclocking?

Posted by: sortaconfused

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Originally Posted by PBA_Seattle

what is the downside, if any, to overclocking?

The Blackjack missing keypresses is a known problem, and I agree that overclocking generally fixes it.

There are no real physical downsides. Theoretically you could "burn out" your processor, but I've never had that happen to me in overclocking a dozen devices, and I've never heard of it happening to anyone else, either. Of course, I never overclock to 1000 either, so...

Actually, what usually happens when I overclock too much is that the device starts acting flaky, and requires resets. Then I just back down in the amount of overclock, and all is well. From my experience, it seems that the device won't operate properly long enough to burn out the processor when it's too overclocked to do any lasting damage.

The other more practical downside is that some apps won't work correctly when the device is overclocked - for my, Voice Command on the Blackjack is the most noticeable example. Voice Command works nearly flawlessly when the processor is clocked at its usual baseline, but nearly *never* recognizes a command when the device is overclocked by even the slightest amount.

If the apps you use most of the time all work when you overclock your Blackjack, then you'll love having all your keystrokes register when you type fast.

Posted by: mch

A sad commentary on modern operating systems in general and Windows Mobile in particular, I suppose, when you need to overclock a processor from 220MHz to 250MHz just to keep up with your typing speed.

My first computer had a 2 MHz 8080 and 16KB of RAM. Sigh. No typing speed issues

http://www.vintage-computer.com/sol20.shtml

Posted by: keelay

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Originally Posted by sortaconfused

can you explain the process of doing an overclock or link me?

Posted by: PINHEAD

I am glad I am not the only one who has noticed this on numerous Smartphones. I really want to buy a Dash but this issue is just too much to overlook. Why release a keyboard on a device if the keyboard can't keep up with me? Back when we had to use Transcriber this problem wasn't even this bad!

It is such a silly problem to have. Never happens on a Blackberry...not even with the SureType ones. Not with the Nokia smart phones either. It is only with the supposedly most advanced PDA phones...Windows Mobile. I am just really irritated and am amazed that people aren't more annoyed by it.

Posted by: Pinnacle

I used to have a huge problem with this on my Moto Q, but it just does not happen on my Dash. I can type fairly fast on the keyboard, and it keeps up really well actually.

Just my experience.

Posted by: Nas6034

I have a dash and haven't had the problem yet and hopefully wont occur at all..

Posted by: donvito83

ive only noticed a problem with my space bar. im not sure if im pressing it hard enough though. it occasionally skips a space, but if i press on it hard, it types it. this is a bit annoying though, but whatever.

Posted by: mch

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Originally Posted by juiceppc

Overclock your BlackJack to 252 and you won't get the key skipping anymore. You'll also get a performance boost. You need to app unlock then use OMAPCLOCK. I was having the same problems until I overclocked. When it's overclocked the letters come up as fast as you can type them. It feels a lot better.

Well, I tried this, and it doesn't seem that the letters come as fast as I can type them.

It's weird really... I can use my Blackberry and my Symbian phones, and they can keep up with my typing speed just fine with processors that are about as fast or slower than the Blackjack. The Cingular 8525 doesn't have the problem either, but it does have a faster processor, and of course a somewhat differnt operating system (WM5 PPC vs SP)

Posted by: juiceppc

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Originally Posted by mch

Must be Samsungs fault.

Posted by: rigg419

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Originally Posted by keelay

can you explain the process of doing an overclock or link me?

go to xda-developers and look in the boards there, you will finds loads of info for overclocking the TI OMAP processor in your phone. There's a little app that you install, it's pretty easy to use and then you just have to make sure it starts when windows starts and you're good to go. Generally, you don't want to overclock a 200mhz OMAP much more than 240mhz or so, because speeds much higher than that may cause instability (ie phone crashes or freaks out) or other issues.

I have also noticed this problem on my Dash every now and again, but it's usually only if I'm typing and a bunch of other stuff is open, or the phone is otherwise busy in some other way. My guess is that one of the first things the OS sacrafices is keyboard buffer since the OS probably wasn't really designed for these full qwerty keyboard devices, but that could be totally wrong

Posted by: joeschmoe714

i just overclocked my blackjack up to 252 and i seem to be having issues with IE now.
anybody else having similar problems?
IE loads fine, it just wont connect to any webpage.
it just says "connecting...locating..." then it tells me that the page cannot be found because the connection was lost."