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New Documents To Go for Windows Mobile SE is out! Full MS Office capability finally!
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Posted by: sfu_engineer

I installed it today and it works very well! I might buy my first smartphone program when this comes out

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http://www.dataviz.com/products/doc...bile/index.html

Coming Soon - But Preview Available Now!

Word, Excel, PowerPoint & PDF files on your Motorola Q, Samsung BlackJack, T-Mobile Dash & Other Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphones.

Documents To Go is the first and only mobile office editor for Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone Edition on the market today. Now you can view, edit and create Microsoft® Word, Excel and PowerPoint® files, view Adobe® PDF files as well as unzip files on your smartphone no matter where your personal or professional life takes you.

* Documents To Go is a powerful word processing, spreadsheet, presentation, PDF and decompression application all in one complete package, designed to help you get your work done anytime, anywhere.

* Your original desktop documents will never lose formatting when you make edits on your smartphone using InTact Technology™.

* Easy to use - Documents To Go has the familiar look and feel of the programs you have on your desktop.

Posted by: JwY

where have you been? i've been running it for at least a week.

do you find it a bit laggy though?

Posted by: XxDrAg0nxX

I have heard about documents to go many years ago... was it for some other platform?

Posted by: JwY

it started on palm os.

Posted by: sfu_engineer

Well I just saw it today over at www.qusers.com when I was trying to find a spreadsheet program to keep track of my finances. The alternatives, such as PTab v3.0, is really not intuitive and is difficult to use.

I did a search and wasn't able to find this release in any of the forums. Sorry if its a repost!

I've only used the Sheet To Go program and it doesn't lag at all. What program were you using?

Posted by: chrisjaffe

I have been using this for a couple of weeks and I love it. I have it installed on my 3125 with no problems, even though it is not a landscape device. there are a few display issues like on the about screens and some of the settings screens, but other than that it works and displays perfectly.

Posted by: iJITSU

been using it on a blackjack from day one that the preview was released. very nice.

Posted by: JwY

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Originally Posted by sfu_engineer

Well I just saw it today over at www.qusers.com when I was trying to find a spreadsheet program to keep track of my finances. The alternatives, such as PTab v3.0, is really not intuitive and is difficult to use.

I did a search and wasn't able to find this release in any of the forums. Sorry if its a repost!

I've only used the Sheet To Go program and it doesn't lag at all. What program were you using?

i'm using word, but i'm typing with a BT keyboard and it isn't exactly keeping up (after i stop typing, it's still typing on the screen). it's not finalized yet, so i expect it to be fixed, unless it's just me. i wonder when the real one is coming out.

Posted by: XxDrAg0nxX

I wonder what will happen to the company IF the new windows mobile comes out included with microsoft office, like all PPCs are.

Posted by: twozerofive

Having trouble setting upt his app..

Posted by: 99ELWpg

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Very nice program. finally i can view PDF files properly. Clearvue wasn't cutting it for me

Posted by: genaldar

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Originally Posted by XxDrAg0nxX

I wonder what will happen to the company IF the new windows mobile comes out included with microsoft office, like all PPCs are.

"Photon" supposedly includes full office support on smartphone. It's actually supposed to merge the two platforms (much like xp did for 9x and nt).

Posted by: LIVEFRMNYC

Works great on my Imate SP5. The PDF actually works & is fast. Most PDF apps I tried on a smartphone don't work at all or work less than half the time.

There is only one problem ..... The PDF viewer does not display colors correctly all the time. Like PDF maps or graphics. But it displays black n white flawless.

The other apps work great, I didn't try the "slideshow to go" yet.

Posted by: SunnyE

is the preview like a 30 day trial or something that will expire later after few days or has other limitations ?

Posted by: sfu_engineer

The Trial is a preview of the full product. It will expire in March when the retail product comes out.

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by XxDrAg0nxX

I wonder what will happen to the company IF the new windows mobile comes out included with microsoft office, like all PPCs are.

This product is targeted at Windows Mobile Smartphones. Windows Mobile already comes with the "Pocket" versions of Word and Excel. Smartphones come with Picsel or some other "view-only" product. Picsel is horrible and basically unusable, IMHO.

DataViz has a long history of making Docs2Go compatible with MS Office apps and as such are considered one of the best and most compatible (they often support functionality that even MS Pocket Word/Excel don't support). My guess is that if this product is as good as past Palm D2G it will be a big hit and the company will do fine regardless of what MS does.

Posted by: mobilelawyer

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Originally Posted by sfu_engineer

The Trial is a preview of the full product. It will expire in March when the retail product comes out.

I like the product, but I am scared that price for the final version is going to be out of sight!

Posted by: sfu_engineer

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Originally Posted by Cowboyshootist

I don't agree that D2G will do fine in the long run. The new Windows Mobile Crossbow is already floating around the internet and it is said to include MS Office editing applications. Most phone manufacturers don't allow firmware/OS upgrades on their phones as they want more people to buy new hardware; however, all the newer phones will already have MS Office capability.

Posted by: bugsmeanie44

Hi, I do a lot of writing for work, so I was going to pick up a pocket pc phone so that I could write while riding the train. I was going to get the MDA, Palm 700WX, or the 8525, but, now that Documents-to-Go is available for the Dash, Q, and Blackjack, I'm considering picking up one of those instead (since they're smaller and will fit more comfortably in my pocket). How does editing/creating Word documents work without a touchscreen? Is it a huge pain? Or do you find Documents-to-Go for Windows Mobile 5 SE to be easy to use? Should I wait for Crossbow to drop (rumored for Valentine's Day)?

Also, I don't want to hijack the thread, but, if I'm using Sprint or Cingular, how important is having WiFi? (I really like the Blackjack, but I think that the Dash WiFi feature might be useful).

Thanks in advance for your help.

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by bugsmeanie44

Hi, I do a lot of writing for work, so I was going to pick up a pocket pc phone so that I could write while riding the train. I was going to get the MDA, Palm 700WX, or the 8525, but, now that Documents-to-Go is available for the Dash, Q, and Blackjack, I'm considering picking up one of those instead (since they're smaller and will fit more comfortably in my pocket). How does editing/creating Word documents work without a touchscreen? Is it a huge pain? Or do you find Documents-to-Go for Windows Mobile 5 SE to be easy to use? Should I wait for Crossbow to drop (rumored for Valentine's Day)?

Also, I don't want to hijack the thread, but, if I'm using Sprint or Cingular, how important is having WiFi? (I really like the Blackjack, but I think that the Dash WiFi feature might be useful).

Thanks in advance for your help.

Do you have a touch screen on your home compuer?

The biggest problem I have with no touch screen is navigating web sites. You can't just jump to a particular link on the screen. You have to scroll up and down and move left and right.

WiFi hasn't been an issue for me since I have an unlimited data plan. I can usually get a connection anywhere I would use WiFi. Usually I get a 3G connection too so speed isn't an issue. You may or may not have good high-speed access where you live so WiFi may be more important.

Posted by: bugsmeanie44

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Originally Posted by Cowboyshootist

Do you have a touch screen on your home compuer?

Well, my home computer has a mouse. So I take it that editing documents without a touchscreen is a fine experience?

I live in NYC, so I assume I'd have good data coverage with most services.

Thanks.

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

Well "fine experience" is probably over stating the case but as long as you can handle the smaller keyboard you'll do OK. I don't know if I would attempt writing the Great American Novel on it but a quick note, email or paragraph of text would be doable.

Posted by: mobilelawyer

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Originally Posted by bugsmeanie44

I really like the Blackjack, but I would hesitate to reccommend it for someone who might be doing a lot of editing of documents. I didn't even think that a full- size pocket pc fit the bill very well for that purpose, from my personal standpoint.

Posted by: bugsmeanie44

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Originally Posted by mobilelawyer

Do use Documents to Go? Is it relatively easy to maneuver without a touchscreen?

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by bugsmeanie44

Do use Documents to Go? Is it relatively easy to maneuver without a touchscreen?

It's not too bad at all. You can move up or down in a document with the scroll wheel pretty easily. I haven't tried the Power Point portion and that may not be very usable since texts and graphics tend to be more "free-form" than documents and spreadsheets.

The main thing I like is that you can view a document much more easily than with Picsel viewer.

Posted by: mobilelawyer

If you saw the kind of documents that I get emailed to me, then you would understand. They tend to be long, involved, and tedious to say the least. If I were going to try and do any editing, I would fire up my notebook.

The screen on any handheld device, for me at least, does not suffice for doing editing of documents. That's not a knock on the Blackjack or Documents to Go, both of which I am using right now. I am very satisfed with both.

Posted by: Pinnacle

This piece of software is very good, even though Sheets to Go hasn't been able to open a few of my spreadsheets for some reason. Everything that opens looks fantastic.

But the pre-release price is $70; Ouch!

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by mobilelawyer

If you saw the kind of documents that I get emailed to me, then you would understand. They tend to be long, involved, and tedious to say the least. If I were going to try and do any editing, I would fire up my notebook.

The screen on any handheld device, for me at least, does not suffice for doing editing of documents. That's not a knock on the Blackjack or Documents to Go, both of which I am using right now. I am very satisfed with both.

Yeah, I wouldn't see this as a good solution for reviewing legal documents or anything like that. For an "on-the-go" product it does pretty well though.

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle

This piece of software is very good, even though Sheets to Go hasn't been able to open a few of my spreadsheets for some reason. Everything that opens looks fantastic.

But the pre-release price is $70; Ouch!

Ouch is right! They offered the product to me for $39 (but the offer expired yesterday). I think they are smoking crack. Most of their Palm products have sold for under $50. I don't see how they jutify $70 for the Windows version.

One thing I have never been happy about is Dataviz's bug fix policy. Basically their answer to any product problem is to upgrade to the newest version and that usually cost money. They do occassionally offer upgrade discounts but still they seem to nickle and dime you every year for the upgrade.

Posted by: mobilelawyer

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Originally Posted by Cowboyshootist

I have not gotten any offers from them for purchase. I downloaded the preview. $39 would be steep, and $70 is out of the question for me. I might as well uninstall the preview right now!

Posted by: sfu_engineer

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Originally Posted by mobilelawyer

I have not gotten any offers from them for purchase. I downloaded the preview. $39 would be steep, and $70 is out of the question for me. I might as well uninstall the preview right now!

$70 is much too expensive.

But $20 and under I would definately get.

Posted by: Pinnacle

Yeah, here is a copy of what I received from them:

"Be the first to edit email attachments on your phone!

Thank you for signing-up for the Documents To Go for Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone Edition preview.

You can now pre-order Documents To Go for $69.99.

This offer is only available to preview customers through the link in this email.

Be the first to own the only mobile Office editor for Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone Edition handsets!

This pre-order event ends Feb. 6, 2007

Documents To Go is a must-have for mobile email users:

The only way to view, edit and create Microsoft® Word, Excel and PowerPoint® files, view Adobe® PDF files as well as unzip files on your Windows Mobile 5 Smartphone Edition handset.
Never lose document formatting when you make edits on your smartphone using InTact Technology™. The only mobile Office suite with this capability!
Easy to use - Documents To Go has the familiar look and feel of the programs you use on your desktop.

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My question is...if the pre-release is $70, what is the regular cost?? So someone got an offer for $39? I'd be tempted by that, but not this.

Posted by: SorsCode

I got the same email above but for 29.99

Posted by: Pinnacle

Looks like Dataviz is playing some marketing/pricing games with all of us before the release date: At what price point do we see the best response, and how high of a price will the consumer actually go ahead and press the Buy Now button.

Posted by: mobilelawyer

I do like the software and would pay $20 for the suite, and might hold my nose and pay up to $40, but that is as far as I could justify going based on my own personal cost/benefit analysis. I have never paid anywhere near $70 for a Pocket PC/Smartphone app, and cannot see how that cost could be justified for any piece of software.

Posted by: sfu_engineer

Looks like the WM6 Standard (Smartphone) Edition is out:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/...rd-in-pictures/

Supposedly those pictures are from an HTC Excalibur (Tmobile Dash) and it has Word Mobile (Beta) and Excel Mobile (Beta). I would rather reflash my Dash to run WM6 then to purchase this $70 program.

Posted by: JwY

^ yup, it is from an excalibur (you can tell be the screen frame). i hope we get a wm6 leak.

Posted by: sfu_engineer

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Originally Posted by JwY

^ yup, it is from an excalibur (you can tell be the screen frame). i hope we get a wm6 leak.

Yes I noticed that too and was very excited!

Posted by: mobilelawyer

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Originally Posted by sfu_engineer

Yes I noticed that too and was very excited!

You folks seem to think that Blackjack/Dash users are going to be able to update to the new OS. Is that a possiblitiy?

Posted by: ali_baba

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Dash has an unofficial WM6 ROM

Very difficult to get ur hands on dat though

Posted by: JwY

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Originally Posted by mobilelawyer

You folks seem to think that Blackjack/Dash users are going to be able to update to the new OS. Is that a possiblitiy?

the hardware can handle it. it depends if there's a leak. i haven't heard of wm6 being tested on the blackjack though.

Posted by: AnyMal

If they can keep the price under $30.00 I may have to pony up. The reason I like DocsToGo is when I close a Word document in the middle of reading/edit, nex time I reopen it, it goes back to the same place within the document. When you work with a doc that's couple hundred pages long it's a much appreciated feature. At least that's the way it worked on a Palm version.

Posted by: DrBaker

I downloaded the trial version today for my Blackjack. It has worked perfectly. It was actually a little better than I expected. Looks like the website price is $29. Once my 30 day trial is over, I plan to purchase the software.

I don't really need it for work purposes, but occassionaly I can use it for school. I hate dragging around the laptop everywhere, but the BJ is always in my pocket.

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

Is the program final now? Does it support the new Office 2007 formats?

Posted by: ali_baba

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Yep, the pgm is final.

Don think, it supports Office 2007 formats, yet...

Posted by: Sgt_Strider

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Originally Posted by ali_baba

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Yep, the pgm is final.

Don think, it supports Office 2007 formats, yet...

Damn, $29.99 is still kind of expensive. I guess I can wait since this program is useless for me as all of my documents have now been converted to OOXML.

Posted by: conan_troutman

I have two questions

I use documents to go and find it excellent how ever PDF files turn up the wrong font and the colours get screwed on the pictures other than that its perfect.

so any one else experience this?

and my second question does crossbow have editing facilities on smartphones as I thought it was for viewing only.

Posted by: N7TND

I agree it is too expensive. Just gonna wait for Windows 6 to come out for my device; it has the edit capability built-in.

Posted by: john1027

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Originally Posted by conan_troutman

and my second question does crossbow have editing facilities on smartphones as I thought it was for viewing only.

Yes you will be able to edit ms docs and files you copy onto your device. You will not be able to create them on the device from scratch. However, there are ways around that. The easiest appears to be to have template shells on the device for anything new you might want to create on the device so it ostensively is a modification of an existing file. I used DTG on Palm for a long period of time and if I remember right, this is what you had to do went DTG first came out because it didn't have that capability in early releases.

Posted by: conan_troutman

I read somewhere crossbow only has editing on PPC and viewing only on smartphones and if thst is true i would still need doc 2 go as I don't really want to go the ppc route I prefer the smaller smartphones and I hate the whole qwerty crap thats going on. I want a a poer device thats disguised as a normal phone so as to not draw attention, a bit like my 8310 most people thinks its a nokia.

Posted by: john1027

Conan, what I posted I learned form reading a couple threads and articles. I'm pretty sure they were accurate. You will be able to edit (to the extent the features allow you to) as long as it is a document you loaded onto the device. I would imagine that the ability to edit would probably be more feature rich in DTG regardless. If I remember right in PPC you won't have the create document restriction that you have in SP. Maybe you will like the HTC S420 (Erato) if and when it actually is released.

See these links:

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2...70207002377.htm

http://www.smartdevicecentral.com/a...h/202071_1.aspx

Posted by: JwY

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Originally Posted by john1027

Conan, what I posted I learned form reading a couple threads and articles. I'm pretty sure they were accurate. You will be able to edit (to the extent the features allow you to) as long as it is a document you loaded onto the device. I would imagine that the ability to edit would probably be more feature rich in DTG regardless. If I remember right in PPC you won't have the create document restriction that you have in SP. Maybe you will like the HTC S420 (Erato) if and when it actually is released.

See these links:

http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2...70207002377.htm

http://www.smartdevicecentral.com/a...h/202071_1.aspx

you remember right. there's no restriction on ppc. i really don't know why they bothered with not adding a new document option when it can be worked around. all it will really do is annoy a few people.

Posted by: cstmx_ryder

Can anyone hook me up with the links to download this New Documents To Go so I can load it on my BJ?? Thanks.

Posted by: conan_troutman

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the following quote was taken from the very website you pointed me to

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Other upgrades are less notable. You can finally edit documents on any Windows Mobile 6 device, not just handhelds that run the Pocket PC (now called "Professional") version of the OS. "Editing" is restricted to very basic operations, however. You can't even create new documents on non-touch-screen (now called "Standard") handhelds, at least without extra software or a clunky workaround involving transferring a blank document to the device and continually using it to save additional documents. It's a truly stunning omission. Be sure to budget for Dataviz's Documents To Go WM Smartphone Edition if you're buying a new WM 6 "Standard" handheld.

so thats that confirmed for me cheers guys