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Whats with disabling bluetooth services on phones now
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Posted by: Modify_inc

Remember back in the day, when having bluetooth on your phone meant having bluetooth and all the services that usually went along with it? Probably wondering what I'm getting at atleast for some of you. I still have a Motorola V551, (old now I know) but it still has the file transfer protocol, so I can make my own ringtones and actually transfer them to my bluetooth cellphone via the file transfer protocol service. I try to do the same for my buddies with their new phones that also have bluetooth and no go! I can pair with them to my PC or even my phone, but I can't transfer any of my ringtones or pics to them. All the older phones that originally had bluetooth like the razor still work though.

Does anyone know how to get around that, can the file transfer protocol service be re-enabled on these phones?

Mike

Posted by: neonbright

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Originally Posted by Modify_inc

Remember back in the day, when having bluetooth on your phone meant having bluetooth and all the services that usually went along with it? Probably wondering what I'm getting at atleast for some of you. I still have a Motorola V551, (old now I know) but it still has the file transfer protocol, so I can make my own ringtones and actually transfer them to my bluetooth cellphone via the file transfer protocol service. I try to do the same for my buddies with their new phones that also have bluetooth and no go! I can pair with them to my PC or even my phone, but I can't transfer any of my ringtones or pics to them. All the older phones that originally had bluetooth like the razor still work though.

Does anyone know how to get around that, can the file transfer protocol service be re-enabled on these phones?

Mike

It depends on the Cell Phone carier, I have had tmobile and cingular branded phones all Motorola though and no problem with the phones.

Posted by: bewitchedsoul

I know eh! I am so mad that my new phone (which I bought for the bluetooth) doesn't work! LG can kiss my ***! False advertizing too, since on the front of the box it didn't say anything about the bluetooth being disabled in Canada. BIG DEAL..I can use a headset...who gives a crap about that when I can simply press the speaker button????? I wanted this phone to transfer data, and it does not do it becuase it's blocked. I feel rooked and robbed out of money paid for a product that doesnt do what it says. I'll never buy LG again!

Posted by: krzrlovr

Some cell phone companies limit or do not include certain bluetooth features/profiles to save space for other preinstalls they "need" to put on the phone, and it also benefits them to block sharing so you will buy ringtones from them. Verizon is infamous for this.

Cingular phones do not have these restrictions.

Posted by: Modify_inc

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Originally Posted by krzrlovr

Some cell phone companies limit or do not include certain bluetooth features/profiles to save space for other preinstalls they "need" to put on the phone, and it also benefits them to block sharing so you will buy ringtones from them. Verizon is infamous for this.

Cingular phones do not have these restrictions.

Yeah, but can it be re-enabled someway or is it a done deal?

Posted by: Heavy Fluid

You can flash some Verizon phones with Alltel firmware, but you will lose some of the Verizon stuff.

@ bewitchedsoul - You need to be pissed at your provider, not LG. They are the one's crippling the phones. Switch providers, preferably to a GSM provider, and you more than likely will experience Bluetooth as it was meant to be.

Posted by: bewitchedsoul

Heavy Fluid: I have every right to be pissed at LG...because I wrote to them and they admitted that they blocked the software. Yet...they advertize the product as having it. It isn't until you activate this phone that you find out the software is not available in Canada. Almost all providers in Canada are ordering the phones with bluetooth disabled now. I'm fine with if the company wants to make thier phones like that, but just don't advertise the product as having the technology when it doesn't, and tricking people into buying it. This was a pay as you go product phone, so it shouldn't have anything to do with the provider as far as using the camera and other features of the phone that don't have anything to do with dialing cell numbers.

Posted by: ericzchu

There are different Bluetooth profiles. Just because OPP profile is disabled doesn't mean there's no Bluetooth, you still get the geadset profile. Unless it says support OPP profile on the box, then it is LG's advertising problem. After all, headset profile is part of Bluetooth profiles.
You can only blame Telus here. They are the ones that ordered LG to disable the OPP and other Bluetooth profiles, so that they can force you to buy ringtones. What is LG going to do in this situation? Don't supply phones to Telus because they want to disable some Bluetooth profiles??
Also, most Rogers phones have full Bluetooth profiles. I had no problems transfering songs via Bluetooth to SonyEricsson and LG phones from Rogers.

Posted by: Milkbone98

In the near future it will be easier to tell which phones have the capabilities intended, the Bluetooth Special Interest Group is putting icons on boxes corresponding with included functional profiles. VZW is not allowed to use them due to their greedy crippling of phones.
http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/...NCTIONALITY.htm

Posted by: bewitchedsoul

Eric...what is Lg to do? What they should do is state on the box that Bluetooth ONLY works for headsets and that there is NO DATA TRANSFER in CANADA. They do not do this and that is why it is false advertising.

Posted by: P5010

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Originally Posted by Milkbone98

In the near future it will be easier to tell which phones have the capabilities intended, the Bluetooth Special Interest Group is putting icons on boxes corresponding with included functional profiles. VZW is not allowed to use them due to their greedy crippling of phones.
http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/...NCTIONALITY.htm

a good attempt to solve the problem....
but this will also bring more confusion to people that are not as tech inclined...

Posted by: riel

Okay, what? Bluetooth's disabled in Canada? Is it disabled for Rogers or which carrier?

Posted by: P5010

Bell and recently Telus...

Rogers hasn't done this yet... and they had better not follow suit on this one..

Posted by: raduque

I personally think the solution is to move BT functionality and support out of the changeable firmware and into some non-volatile, non-editable hardware. ALL manufacturers should do this.

Then, companies like VZW wouldn't be able to tinker with the base functionality of the phone.

Posted by: Air King

I know (for what little its worth) that Sasktel phones all have their bluetooth bits intact. I can send ringtones and wallpapers to my razr, and extract pictures from it too.