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Posted by: Manyuck

Hey all I am looking to get the Blackjack in the next week and had a question about Cingular's data plans. I was browsing their plans, and they have a plan that gets you unlimited data for 20 dollars through a smartphone and another plan that gets you unlimited data for around 40 dollars through a PPC/PDA.

My question is this: Does Cingular consider the BJ a smartphone or a PPC/PDA? I've been reading on the boards that alot of people consider it to be a smartphone....what do they consider it to be?

Thanks for any input!!

Posted by: kuj

Cingular considers it a PPC/PDA even though the OS is Windows Mobile SMARTPHONE. Their criteria is that anything with a qwerty keyboard is a PPC/PDA.

Posted by: RF9

Yup. As totally jacked up as it is. They use the keyboard as the classifying factor.
There's a huge thread on this:
Final Word on BlackJack Data Plan?
They will insist you need the $40 PDA plan. But the Smartphone and Media Max 200 plans will work if you can get them.
My suggestion is to get it, get the $40 plan if you have to. Then go online and log in to your account, go to "add remove features." Remove the PDA pland and and Media Max.
It's not the "correct" plan, but you won't get busted for it.
Go check out a few pages of the thead I shot you the link to.

Posted by: map1978

check these forums...your answers are all hear for the taking

knowledge is contagious

Posted by: drewyehboi

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Originally Posted by RF9

Yup. As totally jacked up as it is. They use the keyboard as the classifying factor.
There's a huge thread on this:
Final Word on BlackJack Data Plan?
They will insist you need the $40 PDA plan. But the Smartphone and Media Max 200 plans will work if you can get them.
My suggestion is to get it, get the $40 plan if you have to. Then go online and log in to your account, go to "add remove features." Remove the PDA pland and and Media Max.
It's not the "correct" plan, but you won't get busted for it.
Go check out a few pages of the thead I shot you the link to.

Bad, but we all do it

Posted by: advan031

I just did it tonight...haha

Posted by: blessd24

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Originally Posted by advan031

I just did it tonight...haha

Congrats, you are officially going against the terms of service laid out by Cingular. Not to get into a big discussion here (It's already been done.)

I don't agree with what they are doing but they figure that if you have a full keyboard you are going to use more data.

The point is, Cingular laid out what the plan is supposed to be and people are going against, IMO it is unethical. But since when is anyone in this country ethical?

Posted by: RF9

With all due respect, I still argue that it is technically not going against the terms and conditions. I don't see where it says here http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-.../plan-terms.jsp that you can not use Media Net or Media Max on a smart phone.
Please point it out if you find it. I've looked. I simply can't find it.

There is one place (not in the T&C) where it says that Media Max (or Media Net) "Is not available for (smart phones, PDAs, etc.)." But I don't see any language forbidding it. And it's not in the T&C (unless I've missed it.)

But as always, I respect the fact that you're educating people on the fact that Media Max is not made availble for sale to people with a smart phone.

I blame Cingular for the array of confusing data plans. Offerings so chaotic that event their own employees aren't always sure of what data plan should be sold with which device. Some nimwit decided a keyboard means you're going to use more data than some kid playing xmradio or mobiTV all day long on a flip phone. Offerings so chaotic that they'd have a hard time enforcing use even if they wanted to.

Even you agree that this QWERTY keyboard classification is just wrong.
So who's unethical? Cingular or us?

It doesn't matter. Eventually this will be abused so much that they'll put a stop to it. Meanwhile, save yourself a few hundred or thousand dollars.
Cingular isn't exactly not making an enormous profit.

Posted by: advan031

Then Cingular should not allow us PDA users to select MM plans online :rolls eyes:

Posted by: ffkevinking

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Originally Posted by blessd24

The point is, Cingular laid out what the plan is supposed to be and people are going against, IMO it is unethical. But since when is anyone in this country ethical?

Get over yourself cingular is advertising the blackjack with the media max plan now.

http://newspaperads.ohio.com/ROP/Ad...=15117296&type=

kev

Posted by: dr.RW

Look at the terms on the rebate sheet. It says to qualify for the rebate you must have a minimum voiceplan of $39.99 or higher and an unlimited data plan. That data plan could be MediaMax 200 for $19.99 or anything above that, since those are the plans that provide unlimited internet usage. I know because I have the grandfathered MEdiaWorks plan for $19.99 and I was told on the phone with Cingular and at a corporate store that that plan was sufficient for the rebate.

I think many people are being misled into thinking that a minimum data plan of $39.99 is required, including Cingular reps. Of course, they could just be trying to rip you off, but I don't want to be too cynical here.

Posted by: ffkevinking

exactly why i posted it. To prove that you do not need the pda plan for the blackjack.

Kev

Posted by: Manyuck

Very nice!! That's the plan I'd like to get with my BJ.

Posted by: map1978

again...this is old and has been posted in other threads if you just did a search...kill this topic

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by map1978

again...this is old and has been posted in other threads if you just did a search...kill this topic

Then go read the other threads. No one forced you to read or post to this one.

Posted by: map1978

sorry but I HATE lazy people who dont search the threads...ahh maybe your one of them...I get it

...has anyone found my common sense??

Posted by: styx66

i've posted it before, but when i was looking into the blackjack in early january, 2 different reps at 2 different stores both told me i could get the $19.99 smartphone unlimited data plan.

And so i did. Received a text message that my rebate was being processed, but haven't received it yet.

Posted by: davistld01

Yes there have been a million posts on this debate, and everyone has their own opinion. I am, and continue to be amazed at all the clamor over $20, especially by those who are holding a $500 phone in their hands. That's like driving a Ferarri and getting mad about the $30 extra for synthetic oil at their friendly neighborhood Wal-Mart when they do an oil change.

C'mon people...get a grip!

I had the Blackjack, but opted for the Treo 680 purely because I found that I needed a device that was more real PDA, and not merely a smartphone like the Blackjack. Cingular considers any device with a qwerty-type keyboard a PDA...and because most will be transfering data (emails, web browsing, text messaging...) with these devices, they require an unlimited data/PDA plan that allows you to do all that your little heart desires for one blanket $39.99 fee per month.

The MM200 plan includes MediaNet usage and a set amount of text messages per month. But it does not include unlimited email sync and data transfer. Some reps will tell you it does...but it clearly does not.

I made a mistake of under-planning myself a while back and incurred HUGE data transfer charges from Cingular...and I refuse to eff up again like that. I jumped on the bandwagon like so many here have and went to the MM200 plan (a rep told me I could) with the BJ...but then called back and changed back to the Unltd. plan after doing some real investigation and "small-print" reading. I would rather pay an additional $20 a month and enjoy my PDA/smartphone to it's fullest, than to scrimp to save the initial $20 and then pay another $100 a month or more on overage charges.

Just my 2-cents...

Posted by: ffkevinking

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Cingular considers any device with a qwerty-type keyboard a PDA...and because most will be transfering data (emails, web browsing, text messaging...) with these devices, they require an unlimited data/PDA plan that allows you to do all that your little heart desires for one blanket $39.99 fee per month.

really is that why they advertise th bj with the media max plan. wow ggod thing you read the earlier posts.

Kev

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by ffkevinking

really is that why they advertise th bj with the media max plan. wow ggod thing you read the earlier posts.

Kev

Hey, Kev...ggod thing u kan spl chek

I have read all the earlier posts from many other experts...such as yourself. I realize they advertize the BJ with the media max plan...but that's not the optimum plan for any smartphone/PDA if you want unlimited useage. If you are just using the phone to text your friends and surf mypage.com...then maybe the MM plan is for you. But, if you are going to use the device for more than a toy...like some of us that have these devices will, then the Unlimited plan is well worth the $20 per month more.

The advertisement is an excersize in successful marketing to a young, and not upwardly mobile crowd that Cingular is attempting to reach in the smartphone category. So, they advertise it with the cheaper plan to attract that segment of the market. And, judging from all the hoopla surrounding it...it has been very successful.

Hey, it hooked you, didn't it?

Posted by: ffkevinking

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Check your spell check yours must be broken as well. Thanks for the post indicating that you were misinformed about the BJ REQUIRING the pda plan. It’s nice that you admitted you were wrong. We've both been here too long to flame each other so stop.

kev

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Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by ffkevinking

Thanks for the post indicating that you were misinformed about the BJ REQUIRING the pda plan.

Actually, I stated that the BJ required the PDA plan...for optimum, unlimited usage. Like I have also stated...if you are only using the BJ for the "fun & cool" side of the device (emails, limited web surfing, texting your friends) then you might be OK with the MM plan. Especially if someone else is paying for your overage charges. But...the Unlimited Data plan is simply a blanket for those of us that actually use the device for more than that...but including that.

I'm no expert, merely an amatuer attempting to educate myself instead of being led by the ideas and opinions of others.

But...if you must...the bow is much appreciated.

No flame intended.

Posted by: ffkevinking

the mm plan is unlimited data. could you please go into detail as to how you were charged overage with an unlimited plan? I'm interested because i use mine the same way you used yours with no problems at all.

Kev

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by ffkevinking

the mm plan is unlimited data. could you please go into detail as to how you were charged overage with an unlimited plan? I'm interested because i use mine the same way you used yours with no problems at all.

Kev

I never said I was overcharged with an unlimited plan.

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by davistld01

I never said I was overcharged with an unlimited plan.

I quote you:

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Originally Posted by davistld01

I made a mistake of under-planning myself a while back and incurred HUGE data transfer charges from Cingular...and I refuse to eff up again like that. I jumped on the bandwagon like so many here have and went to the MM200 plan (a rep told me I could) with the BJ...but then called back and changed back to the Unltd. plan after doing some real investigation and "small-print" reading. I would rather pay an additional $20 a month and enjoy my PDA/smartphone to it's fullest, than to scrimp to save the initial $20 and then pay another $100 a month or more on overage charges.

Davistld01,
You were ripped off by Cingular, unless there are other details here that we don't know about. If you did in fact have Media Max 200 on your account at the time you incurred these charges, then there is no reason you should have ever paid one penny more than $19.99 for data.
How is Media Max underplanning data usage if it's unlimited, that's one thing I don't really understand about your post.

Also you say it's not optimum. Optimum in what way exactly? Media Max and PDA Connect access the Internet in completely identical ways, using the same settings.
And use of all email, including Cingular XPress mail is included for free.

Where in the fine print did you read that you weren't covered?
I've been through the fine print several times and haven't found anywhere that says they can charge you pay per use while on an unlimited data plan, or that you can't use Media Max on a Blackjack. I've been looking, so if you could find that fine print, it would be helpful.

What you should do is call Cingular and state "I was charged extra for data between xx date and xx date, at a time when I had Media Max 200 with unlimited data, please refund the charges."
This is Cingular's billing error. Again, unless I'm not aware of other details such as you might have used the isp.cingular access point which isn't covered by Media Max. You shouldn't have needed to use isp.cingular for any reason so I don't know why you would have. You should have been blocked from using isp.cingular, if you weren't then when you used it you were charged 'data connect' pay per use. If that was the case, it's not your fault. Cingular should have removed data connect PPU from your account and not allowed you to do this.

I recently went through this with Cingular. I noticed that after transitioning from the first month free promo of Media max to the actual media max plan that OLAM started listing "Media Max Pay per use data."

I went through 3 reps and 1 manager and 1 email CS person that all told me it simply isn't possible to be charged for data with Media Max on my account, and if it is they will refund the charges and fix the problem, regardless of the phone or device I was using. I certainly didn't need them to tell me that, I just wanted their commitment and for them to notate it on my account in case I needed to call for a refund the work was already done.
It turns out it was just a "known problem" with OLAM incorrectly showing pay per use for data that was actually covered under unlimited. So I was never charged PPU anyway.

I go in to detail about data plans here:
http://www.gadgetech.info/wireless/cingular/data/
I apologize in advance that it's not very well written. I threw it together pretty fast and need to clean it up. Nonetheless the info is there.

I am serious. You need to call Cingular and get that 100 back. Don't go on and on with them about using Media Max with a Blackjack or you'll confuse the rep and make them think that it's possible you aren't covered by the blackjack. Make it simple. "I had an unlimited data plan, i was charged for data, please refund the charges."
That is if it's not too late. I don't know how long ago this happened and if you can still appeal for this refund. I don't see why there should be any statute of limitations on this.

Posted by: davistld01

Thanks for the clarity RF9. I stated that I am in no way an expert in all of this...but I thought I had a clearer understanding of it than I may actually have.

You have Treo's...and obviously use them, not as toys, but as they are intended to be used. Has there ever been a single problem with the use of a "real" PDA like the Treo with the MM200 plan (if that's the one you use)...any limits of usage vs. the plan with a Blackjack...that is really a smartphone and not a PDA at all? If, in fact, I have been decieved and the MM200 plan does in fact include unlimited data usage that includes VersaMail email and all other data use for only $19.99 a month...then I am going to switch plans...again, today.

Posted by: Mr Pink57

^^I checked out the Smartphone Connect plan on cingulars website and it does in fact state unlimimited data use with Xpress Mail (I am a Sprint customer with a SERO so bare with me). I checked its details also and it is in fact a unlimited plan for $19.99.

EDIT: I checked the Media Max plan now on their website and it does not say anything directly about unlimited data. All it states is unlimited Cingular Video but nothing past that. But I also checked the FAQ on it on their website and it mentions nothing about overage charges... Real solid website stinkular has there.

pink

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Thanks for the clarity RF9. I stated that I am in no way an expert in all of this...but I thought I had a clearer understanding of it than I may actually have.

You have Treo's...and obviously use them, not as toys, but as they are intended to be used. Has there ever been a single problem with the use of a "real" PDA like the Treo with the MM200 plan (if that's the one you use)...any limits of usage vs. the plan with a Blackjack...that is really a smartphone and not a PDA at all? If, in fact, I have been deceived and the MM200 plan does in fact include unlimited data usage that includes VersaMail email and all other data use for only $19.99 a month...then I am going to switch plans...again, today.

Yes, that is in fact what I'm telling you. Use Versa mail, streaming video, audio, or whatever you want. Tethering technically isn't allowed but you'll be able to do that too (but shouldn't tether.)

I've used the Treo 600, 650, 750, and Cingular 8125, 8585 (all PDAs.) Also LGCU 400, CU300 (phones). Oh, also a SonyEriccson EDGE PC card, and a Sierra Wireless aircard (3G). I have used my SIM in all of these and never been charged a penny extra for data.
I've had Media Max 200, or the former version of this "Media Works Unlimited" (discontinued) during that time.
I have also learned a lot about Cingular data plans and followed people's experiences with using them. All of this in the last 4 years.
I have never been charged extra for data, except for the time a cingular store employee removed my data feature without telling me and it took me 5 days to catch it. I got a refund for the data charges from those days.

The BlackJack is technically a "smart phone" if you go based on the fact that it runs "Windows Mobile Smartphone Edition", unlike the Treo 750, Cingular 8125/8525s that run "Windows Mobile Phone edition." The most obvious difference between a smartphone a "PDA" is that a PDA has a touch screen, a smartphone does not. That's the technical difference.
The Cingular 2125 and 3125 (flip and candy bar phones) run the same software as Blackjack (smartphone edition) and are considered 'smart phones.'
But Cingular will tell you Blackjack is a PDA because it has a keyboard. While this has nothing to do with what is and isn't a smart phone, it is what some of them are saying. Others call it a smartphone. Cingular is even confused.

At the end of it, it's nothing but a technicality. Windows Mobile is Windows Mobile. Smartphone vs. PDA? It's really the same thing.
What it comes down to is consumer demographic. Media Max and Smart Phone data plans are targeted toward people wouldn't pay more than $20 for the feature (and may think $20 is too much.) PDA plans are targeted toward people who are business users and "justify" the $40 expense. And in many cases get reimbursed for the charge. PDA connect was really intended for corporations to pay for for employees. Those lines are blurred with consumer friendly PDAs and smartphones so the marketplace has changed.
So they have different priced data plans to go with phones that are targeted toward different audiences (consumers vs. business.)
I'm not kidding, this is really what it's all about.

Smartphone Connect and Media max are literally the identical data plan except Media Max includes messaging.
Just as PDA connect and laptop connect are literally the identical data plan with different prices (for different use.)
The only difference between the laptop/PDA and smartphone/media max plans is the inclusion or exclusion of the option isp.cingular access point.
isp.cingular is optional, has to be manually configured for you to use it, and is only needed if you need to "VPN" through a corporate firewally with PPTP VPN (IPSec VPN can use wap.cingular.)

But all data and media plans includes wap.cigular, and everything should be using wap.cingular by default. Out of the box, no changes, all cingular phones and PDAs connect this way.
I dont mean to confuse you with details.

Cingular has had a hard time deciding if the smartphone, media max, or pda plan belongs on that phone. Several other threads have beat this subject in to submission and there's still no clear consensus. Marketing materials say media max, while other Cingular people tell you smartphone or PDA plans. They don't really know, and the fact is it doesn't matter.

I am telling you definitely that Media Max will provide you unlimited data for a Blackjack. It will and should for all phones, PDAs, and smartphones.

Having said all of that. I'm not going to go against Cingular and tell you to defy what they tell you. If they tell you "PDA Plan" I'm not going to say to defy them and get Media Max. I'm just telling you you can.
Do what you believe is right. If you're a light user, there's no reason you should be paying $40 for it. If you're a heavy user and want to tether your laptop, then pay for what you use and get PDA.

At some point in the future, Cingular can change their policy and enforce what data plans can be used with what device. But at this point they make no distinction.

You can use Media max. If you get charged, make them fix their mistake.
I suggest you change to media max a few days before the end of your billing cycle. That way when you get your bill you only have a few days on it (and potential charges to get corrected.) Then for your next billing cycle you'll be able to sleep easier at night.

I will say, that nowhere in the terms and conditions or on the web site do I see anything that says you can't use Media Max with a Blackjack, PDA, or smartphone.

So if I wasn't clear. VersaMail, web browsing, everything is all just data and they are all unlimited through Media Max on any and all phones.

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by Mr Pink57

^^I checked out the Smartphone Connect plan on cingulars website and it does in fact state unlimimited data use with Xpress Mail (I am a Sprint customer with a SERO so bare with me). I checked its details also and it is in fact a unlimited plan for $19.99.

EDIT: I checked the Media Max plan now on their website and it does not say anything directly about unlimited data. All it states is unlimited Cingular Video but nothing past that. But I also checked the FAQ on it on their website and it mentions nothing about overage charges... Real solid website stinkular has there.

pink

With Media Max they don't call it "Data" they call it "Media Net." It's actually the same thing. They use this terminology basically to confuse you and discourage you from thinking it's a real internet connection.
Unlimited Media Net = Unlimited Internet Data

"Get ready to open up the power of your phone! Enjoy unlimited high quality video and entertainment in the palm of your hand. Cingular Video brings you video clips of your favorite TV shows, music videos, movie trailers, comedians and sports highlights. With Unlimited MEdia Net you can browse the web, check email, get movie times and sports scores, news and weather. Plus you can send and receive 200 messages any way you want- text, picture, video and IM. Each message counts the same. Get a MEdia Max Bundle and have UNLIMITED access to Cingular Video, MEdia Net and the freedom to message any way to any one."
http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-...e=MEdia+Bundles

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by RF9

So does that make the HTC Trinity a Smartphone? I hate Cingular... Anything to make a buck (as with most companies these days).

Posted by: RF9

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Originally Posted by richy240

So does that make the HTC Trinity a Smartphone? I hate Cingular... Anything to make a buck (as with most companies these days).

If it runs MS Smartphone Edition and does not have a touchscreen, then that means it's a smartphone.

Posted by: dr.RW

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Thanks for the clarity RF9. I stated that I am in no way an expert in all of this...but I thought I had a clearer understanding of it than I may actually have.

You have Treo's...and obviously use them, not as toys, but as they are intended to be used. Has there ever been a single problem with the use of a "real" PDA like the Treo with the MM200 plan (if that's the one you use)...any limits of usage vs. the plan with a Blackjack...that is really a smartphone and not a PDA at all? If, in fact, I have been decieved and the MM200 plan does in fact include unlimited data usage that includes VersaMail email and all other data use for only $19.99 a month...then I am going to switch plans...again, today.

I don't mean to flame you, I don't know you and it just may be that your writing style does not come off the way you intend. That being said, I find your posts to be extremely condescending. Just who are you to tell people how they should use their phones? If someone sends an email on their phone is that playing? Please, tell me how that is using a phone as a toy. If you want to download large files, such as spreadsheets or powerpoint presentations, and edit them on your phone what are you doing with a Treo 680 and not a 750 or 8525 that has 3G data so you can really use the network at its optimal capacity? If you are such a power user, why not get an HTC Advantage? Obviously you can afford to get whatever you want and I'm sure there will still be room in your Ferrari

You have been misinformed and are going around telling other members that they are not using their phones properly. Meanwhile, all the time you have been entirely clueless as to what you are professing to know better than anyone else. For the record I have been using a TyTN with my grandfathered MEdiaWorks plan for real work and have had no problems.

Finally, just because one can afford to pay more for something doesn't mean that one should not shop for the best bargain. I've seen the Chairman of the Board at the hospital I work at shopping at Costco. Surely he could afford to shop wherever he wants. Wait, maybe that is why he has the money to shop wherever he wants, because he does not spend his money foolishly.

Posted by: robhs

The sales person at the Cingular store that sold me my 8525 told I would have to upgrade to the $40.00 plan (up from the $20.00 plan for my 3125) because my phone has a keyboard. I told her that if anything, I would use less data because I would do the majority of my data usage through wi-fi. She said that I would be charged for wi-fi also. At that point, I just shut up and got out of the store. It amazes me how little some of these salespeople know.

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by dr.RW

You are correct. You don't know me, and I don't know you. I apologize if my post have offended you, and if I sounded condescending. I am no expert...and have admitted to that. In fact, I did so...and admitted that I had been grossly misinformed way before you took it upon yourself to type this multi-paragraph "correction" to me. That's OK...I guess I can use a little correction, especially from a Doctor and "power user" like yourself.

BTW...you say you "don't mean to flame" me. What exactly do you call that? Your "expert opinion"?

Posted by: dr.RW

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Perhaps I got a bit carried away after my well-intentioned beginning. I don't pretend to know everything and I try to refrain from giving advice on topics in which I am not certain. My point was less toward your content and more toward your tone. I apologize if I was over the top, sometimes I get on a roll and go downhill faster than intended. In a post geared toward promoting tolerance I showed less than I was asking for (olive branch fully extended).

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by dr.RW

No prob, doc. We're cool.

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by blessd24

The point is, Cingular laid out what the plan is supposed to be and people are going against, IMO it is unethical. But since when is anyone in this country ethical?

Sorry but you're wrong. Look at the manuals for the BJ. They recommend a MediaNet account if you intend to use lots of data or the media features like Cingular Video. Furthermore they not only honored my $100 rebate (on 2 separate occasions no less) but when I contacted Customer Support they put the MediaMax plan on my daughter's Blackjack.

So, it's kind of hard to violate the T&C when the company is allowing you to use the plans.

Posted by: davistld01

I actually called Cingular today and changed back to the MediaMax200 plan, and cancelled my Unlimited Data plan. The Cingular CSR even agreed that if I wasn't going to be tethering to a laptop or syncing with a corporate server...I didn't need the UDP.

Posted by: arthurcorell

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Originally Posted by blessd24

The point is, Cingular laid out what the plan is supposed to be and people are going against, IMO it is unethical. But since when is anyone in this country ethical?

I disagree with you about this:
"Tethering is only to be done if you have a 59.99 laptop connect plan. (Unless you have a blackberry then its 74.99)"

I just got a PDA plan for 35.99 yesterday. I used have a media.net max for 19.99. When I called cingular yesterday, I told the lady that I want to use my phone as the modem for my laptop. She told me they have this plan for unlimited internet access. The only different is a data plan with pc-card need a seperate account. I'm very happy with her offer.

Posted by: Cowboyshootist

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Originally Posted by arthurcorell

If you go online and look at Cingular's Terms and Conditions you will see that "tethering" is not allowed under most plans. I haven't checked recently but the last time I did the plan that allowed tethering cost more than $35.99. Likewise if you read the T&C you'll see that lots of things are "prohibited" with an "unlimited" data plan. Things like streaming media, IM and so forth. It is contrary to the definition of "unlimited" in my opinion. I will tell you that in the past I have tethered my laptop to my old Motorola V551 with the $19 MediaNet plan. I didn't do it much and Cingular never had an issue with it or at least they never indicated to me that there was a problem with doing it.