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Nokia 5300 Unbranding
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Posted by: ZackA

Hey guys,
I just got my 5300 today... It Pissed me off as soon as i turned it on, it said rogers... and i almost packed it back up.. lol i hate the whole rogers music player junk... its sick. Anyways, It needs "unbranding" So if anyone knows how to put origional software back on, please let me know. Thanks

Posted by: Chev66

on this forum we dont support Unbranding or unlocking phones.

Posted by: ZackA

Thats fine anyways, the phone was a POS so i sent it back

Posted by: quiksilv3r

dont think its possible to unbrand these badboys just yet anyway

Posted by: evilgabbie

yes it is... just flash it generic.. did a couple, removed DRM as well =)

Posted by: quiksilv3r

im guessing u cant flash by urself and u'll have to bring it in?

Posted by: bubble.tea

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chev66

on this forum we dont support Unbranding or unlocking phones.

Pardon, but I believe you mean to say HOFO doesn't permit discussions about free unlocking.

Unbranding is a permitted subj matter., and Unlocking is permitted so long as we point to the Marketplace Businesses.

OT.

I would like to get info on unbranding this baby as well. Evilgabbie, please fill us in

Posted by: evilgabbie

nothing much to add, except unbrand.. done...
want chinese, u got it..

Posted by: quiksilv3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilgabbie

nothing much to add, except unbrand.. done...
want chinese, u got it..

how?? did u actually unbrand urs?

Posted by: evilgabbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilgabbie

yes it is... just flash it generic.. did a couple, removed DRM as well =)

i guess i did =)

i don't use it, but it's been done

how ? that i can't really show u.. cause i sorta use JIGs and not via USB

Posted by: quiksilv3r

=( i still cant find a good resource to unbrand with

Posted by: D_kay

yah hopefully there will be a way to unbrand this phone soon, its a must. i HATE how the music player buttons (FF, PLAY, FR) don't work. i wouldn't mind getting people to unbrand like evilgabbie, but unfortunately i live in bc.

Posted by: v1ralIV

im pretty sure unbranding is ok.

ive flashed my 6280 to 5.92 myself and on my way to 6.10 i'm not sure if i'm allowed to say how to do it. i'll gladly delete this post if not, nvm i just checked. its not allowed as it involves piracy

umm read around the bb5 section at gsmhosting forums. look for a firey bird. u can use ur regular cables with this. im not sure about 5300 though cause it uses the usb "b" type port and not a pop port.

Posted by: evilgabbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1ralIV

im pretty sure unbranding is ok.

ive flashed my 6280 to 5.92 myself and on my way to 6.10 i'm not sure if i'm allowed to say how to do it. i'll gladly delete this post if not, nvm i just checked. its not allowed as it involves piracy

umm read around the bb5 section at gsmhosting forums. look for a firey bird. u can use ur regular cables with this. im not sure about 5300 though cause it uses the usb "b" type port and not a pop port.

that's regular flashing
you need to downgrade.. which if you do it using your traditional ways will brick your phone

Posted by: JYC

isn't USA plannin to BAN locking of cellphones?

since they are, why not allow free discussion of modifying the phone we pay FULL PRICE FOR!!!!

its so stupid that phone company can lock n alter the actual product we pay full price for? i mean yes i'm locked into a contract with this particular service provider for their discounts, but why can't i use full features on the phone

the 5300 has a crappy player installed on it instead of the original nokia one, if u play ur music file outside of Rogers player u can hear its much louder!

PLUS, when u turn off APPLICATION TONES in ur settings, THE WHOLE ROGERS PLAYER IS SCREWED UP n YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO PLAY ANYTHING!!!!

but whatever, unlockin n debranding is good money hahahahaha

Posted by: v1ralIV

downgrade? what if i wait for a newer firmware and flash it with that? would it still b downgrading? and would it be unbranded, given that the newer firmware is generic.

can u please explain to me y its downgrading

Posted by: evilgabbie

there is no newer generic firmware

Posted by: cyikeda

I think iUnlock can flash the 5300 to OEM unbranded firmware...the website doesnt say so, but I called a couple of times and talked to more than one person who said they could definitely do it, although it seems counter intuitive b/c of the firmware versions...but the guys I talked to said, usually you cant downgrade, but in the case of the t-mobile 5300 (i dont know about rogers), you can. I also asked if it was a hacked firmware or if it was just simply the same version that would come on an OEM unbranded 5300 and they said it wasn't hacked...also if youre looking to unlock your phone, the easiest (and totally legal) way is to just call the original service provider and tell them you need to unlock the phone so that you can take it with you abroad or something - they should give you an unlock code, I know t-mobile does it b/c they unlocked my 5300.

Posted by: doodoo2

"you can take it with you abroad or something - they should give you an unlock code" what do you mean by take it abroad, and what would the locked phone stop you for taking it abroad, if what you say is true i will defiantly try that, if i unlock it, wat new features will now be available for example.

THX

Posted by: v1ralIV

ok i'm getting alot of PMs about this subject. ive never done this before but i will be on my 6680 and 6682 soon.

the tricky part with 5300 is as forementioned before there is no newer firmware. you should be able to just reinstall the firmware as suppose to downgrading, upgrading would be best though.

heres the info

http://www.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showt...ghlight=unbrand

Posted by: evilgabbie

FYI

NSU isn't the tool u want for this project

yes change the product code like the other nokias to get your preference of language / region pack BUT

problem here is RM-146 and RM-147, they are two different phones, 5300b, there is no generic version, it's either t-mobile, cingular, or rogers

and they are all DRM locked...

FOR PEOPLE THAT READ THE LINKED THREAD ABOVE, it's great for info but... do @ ur own risk...

Posted by: v1ralIV

oh yea i forgot about the whole 850/900 band hence the a and b version and the different rm numbers.

whoah seems like there is no generic firmware i just checked out the usa and canada sites, their both exclusive to t-mobile and rogers.

i guess u guys are out of luck. i thikn flasing a b phone with an a software would kill so do at your own risk

Posted by: cyikeda

I just got my phone (T-mobile branded 5300) back from iUnlock - I'm happy to say that I can now confim my statement from earlier in this thread - my 5300 is now unlocked (via t-mobile) and running unbranded firmware version 3.92 (via iUnlock) w/ 850/1900 bands, picking up strong signal on the cingular network - what a difference, I orignally bought the red euro version of the phone w/o the 850 band and I had NO signal in nyc, it was between 0-1 bars everywhere I went - luckily I read up on all of this, returned the phone the very next day and picked this one up from t-mobile - also Im able to run 3rd party apps, like gmail, where the t-mobile fw didn't let me before and all the browser/messaging seems to be working fine after entering the cing settings

Posted by: v1ralIV

wow thats awsum wondre how they did it, theres gotta be a generic product code

Posted by: quiksilv3r

so i guess we're still outta luck for the time being sigggggggh

Posted by: bluesuga

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyikeda

also Im able to run 3rd party apps, like gmail, where the t-mobile fw didn't let me before and all the browser/messaging seems to be working fine after entering the cing settings

can you clarify a couple of things for me

in order to connect with 3rd party apps do i have to unlock it? or just get the phone unbranded from iunlock?

and what do you mean by entering the cing settings?

Posted by: v1ralIV

unbranding would enable 3rd party apps. but if ur sending it off might as well unlock it it raises value and if u wanna switch later on u can do it.

entering cingular settings meaning putting in the setting for internet mms and etc. so you can use those stuff.

Posted by: evilgabbie

rogers 5300b are unlockable (FYI)

but not all BB5 are, just a selected few

Posted by: cyikeda

t-mobile's 5300 firmware doesnt allow you to run 3rd party apps, so if you get it unbranded (ie flash it to OEM unbranded firmware) you can run whatever you want on the phone like gmail or opera mini because the unbranded version of the firmware didnt have that restriction...also FYI iunlock cant unlock the 5300 yet, and even if they could, they'd charge u for that service - but if u just call t-mobile and tell them you want to unlock your phone, they'll provide u w/ the info you need to unlock the phone at no charge...so the only thing youre loosing by having t-mobile unlock your phone is the time you spend on the phone requesting the unlocking haha

also, by cing settings, i was referring to the web/messaging settings that you need to enter in the connection profile in order to have these services work w/ cingular service - this is really easy though b/c you can send these settings straight to your phone and use them via the nokia web site - you just choose what model phone you have, what service provider you have and your phone number and they send you a msg that will create cing profiles and set them active on your phone so these services work properly - check it out here:

Nokia device configuration

Posted by: quiksilv3r

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilgabbie

rogers 5300b are unlockable (FYI)

but not all BB5 are, just a selected few

unlockable but not by ourselves right?

Posted by: evilgabbie

by code... which are fairly expensive

Posted by: quiksilv3r

sigh i might as well just bring it in somewhere and get it unbranded

Posted by: doodoo2

where could you bring it to get it unbranded, man rogers is garbage

Posted by: Fat Ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyikeda

t-mobile's 5300 firmware doesnt allow you to run 3rd party apps, so if you get it unbranded (ie flash it to OEM unbranded firmware) you can run whatever you want on the phone like gmail or opera mini because the unbranded version of the firmware didnt have that restriction...also FYI iunlock cant unlock the 5300 yet, and even if they could, they'd charge u for that service - but if u just call t-mobile and tell them you want to unlock your phone, they'll provide u w/ the info you need to unlock the phone at no charge...so the only thing youre loosing by having t-mobile unlock your phone is the time you spend on the phone requesting the unlocking haha

also, by cing settings, i was referring to the web/messaging settings that you need to enter in the connection profile in order to have these services work w/ cingular service - this is really easy though b/c you can send these settings straight to your phone and use them via the nokia web site - you just choose what model phone you have, what service provider you have and your phone number and they send you a msg that will create cing profiles and set them active on your phone so these services work properly - check it out here:

Nokia device configuration

Where in the phone do I even have the option to enter an unlock number?

Posted by: cyikeda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Ken

Where in the phone do I even have the option to enter an unlock number?

Theres no place to enter the code, you just type in something along the lines of #PW+<unlock code>+1# and when you press the final # in that series, you get a prompt telling you that it has been unlocked successfully or something...I'm telling you, just call your service provider (i.e. t-mobile or rogers) and they will tell you what to do in order to unlock the phone

Posted by: cyikeda

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodoo2

where could you bring it to get it unbranded, man rogers is garbage

call the guys at iUnlock - they unbranded my t-mobile version, just ask them if they can do the same for a rogers version

Posted by: doodoo2

how much did it cost you?

Posted by: cyikeda

for the unbranding, it was $35, as stated on the website

Posted by: ArcherV20

Rogers Wireless has denied my request for unlocking. Telling me I would "Need to contact Nokia for an unlocking" I assumed that the operator had no idea what he was talking about. Anyone have any luck getting codes from Rogers?

Posted by: cyikeda

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArcherV20

Rogers Wireless has denied my request for unlocking. Telling me I would "Need to contact Nokia for an unlocking" I assumed that the operator had no idea what he was talking about. Anyone have any luck getting codes from Rogers?

Thats not good...well, if you plan to stay w/ rogers, then unlocking the phone wouldnt buy you much anyways - you can still try unbranding it to get all of the functionality back

Posted by: quiksilv3r

anyone know any places in Vancouver that provide 5300 unbranding?

Posted by: doodoo2

i was wondering, would it be possible to download the nokia music player, application, and just drop it in the cellphone, because, the real reason i want to unbranded it is to use the original nokia music player.

Posted by: cyikeda

dont know if it's any consolation or not, but howard ripped the rogers branding pretty hard as well : Howard's 5300 Review

Posted by: LinxC

if you are in gta there is a store at first markham place that can unbrand your rogers 5300, i just got it done and its great to have a fully functional phone can finally use the media buttons on the side for mp3s also can finally set mp3 ringtones without and hassles

Posted by: kdm212

i unlocked my tmobile 5300. i called in at 3pm hst and by 7am hst. my code was waiting in my email. im really satisfied that tmobile did it so fast! now im just deciding on unbranding it. im thinking about gettin a pantech phone. if you guys have any feedback that would be awesome. i made a thread in the pantech forum.

Posted by: Charbs

Someone HAS to know how to Debrand a 5300, its so easy with Sony Ericsson and Wotanserver...why is it so difficult with this 5300. Mine is a Rogers one and it sucks ***, I need to get the original firmware on this badboy.

Posted by: tiff_seattle

So no one knows how this Iunlock place manages to unbrand the phone? I just picked up a 5300 since my Wizard was stolen. But if I can't get a working email client on the device it's going back to TMO.

Posted by: Moshi

I dont understand why Rogers and other carriers lock their phones and change the phones native capabilities. That being said, if Rogers wouldn't make the phones crap then people wouldn't be in such a rush to unlock/debrand.

Posted by: Charbs

Ive debranded phones before...but i never in my life have had so much trouble even finding information or instructions on the Nokia 5300...its seriously retarded.

Posted by: Rabgnaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiff_seattle

So no one knows how this Iunlock place manages to unbrand the phone? I just picked up a 5300 since my Wizard was stolen. But if I can't get a working email client on the device it's going back to TMO.

That is one of the exact reasons why I sent mine back. CS had no idea why TMo had disabled it...

Posted by: tiff_seattle

CS had no idea why TMo had disabled it...

Well It's pretty clear to me that they will make far more money off of people that are forced to use text messaging rather than a POP/IMAP client. T-Mobile is becoming the new Verizon as far as I am concerned. They value short term profits over customer loyalty these days.

Posted by: amanb

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiff_seattle

CS had no idea why TMo had disabled it...

Well It's pretty clear to me that they will make far more money off of people that are forced to use text messaging rather than a POP/IMAP client. T-Mobile is becoming the new Verizon as far as I am concerned. They value short term profits over customer loyalty these days.

Save us the conspiracy theories, there's already a fully functional IM client on t-mobile 5300s. It even works well as a background app.

That said, I would really like to see Google Earth work on this thing. I hope nokia or t-mobile sees the outrage on this thread and provides a new firmware.

Posted by: tiff_seattle

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanb

Save us the conspiracy theories, there's already a fully functional IM client on t-mobile 5300s. It even works well as a background app.

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact that every non-smartphone coming out on TMO these days is restricted to TMO approved applications from accessing the network. What would you think about buying a computer from Dell that only allowed Dell approved applications from accessing the Internet? How would you feel if Ma Bell only let you install their approved phones on your land line? What TMO and VZW are doing is no different. And an IM client is a far cry from an actual email client.

Posted by: bluesuga

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiff_seattle

yes iunlock will unbrand the 5300. read here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...664#post8887664

but i have no idea how and im not gonna try to do it myself thats for sure

Posted by: BanginBalla031

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesuga

yes iunlock will unbrand the 5300. read here
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...664#post8887664

but i have no idea how and im not gonna try to do it myself thats for sure

he doesnt want to know that iunlock did it, he knows that
he wants to know HOW they did it

Posted by: tiff_seattle

Quote:

Originally Posted by BanginBalla031

he doesnt want to know that iunlock did it, he knows that
he wants to know HOW they did it

Umm... SHE not he.

Posted by: ananthaka

hai i am an cingular customer and i got an unlocked nokia 5300 phone from Ubid.com site. it was a new piece and i liked it in all the ways. but the problem is that its an T-mobile unlocked and when i inserted my Cingular SIM card it just shows 1 or 2 signals. As its an nokia phone it has to take up good signal, but it doesn't . but my friend has NOKIa E62 from cingular and he has a very good coverage. Can anyone help me in resolving my problem,if so i will be really greatful to them.

Posted by: Rabgnaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanb

Save us the conspiracy theories, there's already a fully functional IM client on t-mobile 5300s. It even works well as a background app.

True. And the IM client uses text me$$age$. "Conspiacy theory", I think not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanb

That said, I would really like to see Google Earth work on this thing. I hope nokia or t-mobile sees the outrage on this thread and provides a new firmware.

Me too. As well as Nokia's email client, Opera Mini, GMail, etc. Again, it's strange how TMo appears to have issues with their handsets using any of these, all of which happen to be Java based apps.

Posted by: BanginBalla031

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiff_seattle

Umm... SHE not he.

My apologies

Posted by: cyikeda

Are you sure it's a t-mobile unlocked version that was being sold on Ubid? Does it say t-mobile on the casing? If not, most likely its the euro version, which has the 900Mhz (euro) band istead of the 850Mhz (north american) band, the t-mobile version of the phone and yes, you will get horrific coverage if that is the case. Theres not much you can do about it other than get on ebay and sell it or try to return it, I made the same mistake at first because I was unaware that the t-mobile version had north american spec bands

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananthaka

hai i am an cingular customer and i got an unlocked nokia 5300 phone from Ubid.com site. it was a new piece and i liked it in all the ways. but the problem is that its an T-mobile unlocked and when i inserted my Cingular SIM card it just shows 1 or 2 signals. As its an nokia phone it has to take up good signal, but it doesn't . but my friend has NOKIa E62 from cingular and he has a very good coverage. Can anyone help me in resolving my problem,if so i will be really greatful to them.

Posted by: razzamatazm

On a whim... I called tech support at NA T-Mobile and asked them about the problem of using web enabled apps. I escalated through their CS levels and was finally told that they can't do anything to get it working (then tried to sell me an mda). Problem is... I really like the phone, just would like it to be fully functional. so... if some fix doesn't come out soon it appears I'll be visiting iunlock

Posted by: amanb

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabgnaw

True. And the IM client uses text me$$age$.

No it doesn't! It uses packet data. Don't you see the "G" icon indicating a GPRS connection?

I created and set a fake message center for text messages (so text messages are disabled) and IM still works fine.

I have a t-mobile phone and as far as I can tell, I'm not paying for IM beyond the $5.99 flat fee for unlimited data.

Posted by: Moshi

I won this phone in an office raffle...It's just sitting there. I'm on Fido and this 5300 is locked to Rogers. Funniest thing about this situation is that even on my Fido cell, 99% of the time it says ROGERS on it! LOL

I called Rogers support and they actually told me to come to HoFo...

"Those guys will know how to unlock it." - Rogers CSR

Posted by: Rabgnaw

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanb

It used to and did on older phones. No "G" or "E" shows when you're IM-ing. But maybe I'm wrong about the SMS usage now on the 5300. I didn't try it before I sent it back. Maybe TMo has changed it for one or another of the IM providers. Is it like that for all (AIM, MSN, Yahoo!, ICQ) or only one?

As far as it being a chargeable activity, this is what's on TMo's site currently:
"Send and receive instant messages for just $0.10 each ($0.05 to receive for T-Mobile To Go customers). Or choose from a Messaging Value Bundle to save even more."
TMo Answers: Instant Messages

Posted by: sastek

[QUOTE=amanb]No it doesn't! It uses packet data. Don't you see the "G" icon indicating a GPRS connection?

Are you sure?, The T-Mobile website says "You can send and receive instant messages throughout the US for just $0.10* each" and also states "Each instant message sent or received is charged or deducted as a seperate text message"

Posted by: Rcadden

Ok guys, whoever has the UNBRANDED one, here's how to help everyone else out:

1. Download NSS (Nemesis Service Suite) from here and have PC Suite installed on your PC.
2. Install NSS, when it asks for the USB, choose Virtual
3. Plug the phone in with the USB cord, choose "PC Suite" mode
4. Start up NSS
5. Click the magnifying glass to the right
6. On the bar at the top, click the "Phone Info" button
7. In the middle of the window, there is a button that says "scan". Click this
8. Watch the status bar on the bottom. When it says "Done", proceed
9. On the right there is a box labelled "Product Code" with a checkbox. Check the box and then click the "Read" button below
10. It will populate a Product Code.

POST THAT CODE ON HERE.

Posted by: SiRTOPE

yo the code is 0515134

now wat?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

Ok guys, whoever has the UNBRANDED one, here's how to help everyone else out:

1. Download NSS (Nemesis Service Suite) from here and have PC Suite installed on your PC.
2. Install NSS, when it asks for the USB, choose Virtual
3. Plug the phone in with the USB cord, choose "PC Suite" mode
4. Start up NSS
5. Click the magnifying glass to the right
6. On the bar at the top, click the "Phone Info" button
7. In the middle of the window, there is a button that says "scan". Click this
8. Watch the status bar on the bottom. When it says "Done", proceed
9. On the right there is a box labelled "Product Code" with a checkbox. Check the box and then click the "Read" button below
10. It will populate a Product Code.

POST THAT CODE ON HERE.

Posted by: Rcadden

Now people wanting to unbrand their 5300s can do the same steps, only after #10, you'll do this:

11. change the product code to the unbranded one: 0515134, then click the "write" button.
12. Now you can close NSS
13. Open PC Suite and click on the "Software Updater" Icon
14. Do what you need to do (update or anything) to get NSU up and running
15. It should recognize your 5300, and tell you there's an update available and ask if you want to install it. You say yes
16. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR PHONE WHILE IT"S DOING THIS

Basically it's deleting everything off your phone and then reinstalling the firmware. Kinda like formatting your hard drive and then re-installing Windows. However, NSU decides what firmware to put on your phone based on this product code. Since you changed it to the unbranded one, it should now "think" that your phone was unbranded to begin with, and will apply the unbranded firmware.

**NOTE**
A few things to keep in mind
1. This does NOT unlock your phone. It's still locked to only accept a T-mobile SIM. You'll need to get the unlock code from T-mobile to get past this.
2. NSU can only apply a NEWER firmware. If the firmware you have on your branded 5300 is the same or newer than the unbranded firmware, you're SOL until they update the firmware.
3. you'll know when it's safe to touch your phone again cause NSU will tell you so. Before then, DON"T TOUCH IT.

Posted by: SiRTOPE

but the thing is im not wit T-mobile...im with ROGERS!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

Now people wanting to unbrand their 5300s can do the same steps, only after #10, you'll do this:

11. change the product code to the unbranded one: 0515134, then click the "write" button.
12. Now you can close NSS
13. Open PC Suite and click on the "Software Updater" Icon
14. Do what you need to do (update or anything) to get NSU up and running
15. It should recognize your 5300, and tell you there's an update available and ask if you want to install it. You say yes
16. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR PHONE WHILE IT"S DOING THIS

Basically it's deleting everything off your phone and then reinstalling the firmware. Kinda like formatting your hard drive and then re-installing Windows. However, NSU decides what firmware to put on your phone based on this product code. Since you changed it to the unbranded one, it should now "think" that your phone was unbranded to begin with, and will apply the unbranded firmware.

**NOTE**
A few things to keep in mind
1. This does NOT unlock your phone. It's still locked to only accept a T-mobile SIM. You'll need to get the unlock code from T-mobile to get past this.
2. NSU can only apply a NEWER firmware. If the firmware you have on your branded 5300 is the same or newer than the unbranded firmware, you're SOL until they update the firmware.
3. you'll know when it's safe to touch your phone again cause NSU will tell you so. Before then, DON"T TOUCH IT.

Posted by: Rcadden

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiRTOPE

but the thing is im not wit T-mobile...im with ROGERS!!!!

So then your phone is still locked to only accept a Rogers SIM, no difference. It's still unbranded.

Posted by: kdm212

where can i get that unbrander/debrander dohickey lol. is that only good for nokia? ill buy it if it can be used on other devices.

Posted by: v1ralIV

its only good for nokia

its free

http://www.nokia.com/A4176089 NSU

http://www.b-phreaks.co.uk/files/NSS/NSS10389.zip NSS as previously posted

Posted by: kdm212

so this soft ware will completely unbrand my phone? all i need is the data cable? any certain steps i need to take? the phone is already unlocked.

Posted by: Rcadden

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdm212

so this soft ware will completely unbrand my phone? all i need is the data cable? any certain steps i need to take? the phone is already unlocked.

Here's the lowdown:

NSU is Nokia's public software that allows users to update their phone's firmware at home. Basically, when they release a phone, it has a certain version of firmware, or the code inside that makes the phone work. Over time, most phones will receive several firmware updates, in which Nokia acknowledges a bug (or usually a few) and updates the firmware to fix those bugs. Previously, you had to take your phone back to Nokia to get this update. With NSU, you can do it from your home computer.

When Nokia uploads firmwares into the NSU database, they put the most recent ones in there. Each phone will have several different versions. For instance, the 5300 obviously has at least three valid versions of firmware: T-mobile Branded, Rogers Branded, and Unbranded. When you plug your phone into the data cable and connect to NSU, it reads your phone's internal software, specifically the product code, to find out what firmware is on the phone. Typically, this would be, say, a T-mobile-branded product code. So NSU would check to see if there was a newer version of T-mobile branded firmware.

What NSS allows you to do is change that internal product code to the unbranded one, and therefore trick NSU into thinking that you plugged in an unbranded device to begin with. If there is a newer version available, it will then apply the new version of unbranded, since the phone's product code told NSU it was unbranded.

Posted by: kdm212

ok so can we have a step by step walk through? are there any codes i need? what do i use the nokia software or the nss? or both? im typically not this dumb lol sorry. thanks for working with me!

Posted by: Rcadden

OMFG did you read this thread?

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...46&postcount=66

then

http://www.howardforums.com/showpos...26&postcount=68

If you can't follow those then you deserve to have a branded phone.

Posted by: kdm212

lol nvm i read above all the steps. relax!

Posted by: kdm212

ok one final question. will this make the phone lose 850?

Posted by: kdm212

looks like im sol cause i have 4.51, rm-147

Posted by: je61

k i followed the steps, with my Rogers 5300. only problem is: my product code IS ALREADY "0515134"
wtf?

pm me if u can help, or know how to unlock.
thnx

Posted by: doodoo2

has anyone done this yet with the rogers 5300 did it work? if it does i really wanna try putting the original firmware one my phone.

Posted by: tiff_seattle

Nokia has apparently tried to thwart this method by giving their branded firmware higher version numbers than their generic firmware. Unless someone comes up with a way to modify the firmware build number I don't think this method will work. I'm guessing that Iunlock.com has some special equipment that allows them to downgrade the firmware on the device. Does anyone know if there is a way to downgrade via a mini-USB cable?

Posted by: v1ralIV

props ro Rcadden for having much patience, dude the steps are posted up there post 66 to 68

Posted by: v1ralIV

lol thats not the generic code then someone with a generic/ unbranded 5300 follow post 66 and post the code, btw i did unbrand my 6682 plus updated it so its all good

Posted by: wazime

I am interested to know if anyone has had this work with a rogers phone, I just got one and want to unbrand it. I don't want to brick my phone though.

Posted by: WindowPain

I downloaded NSS and it tells me my T-Mobile 5300 is RM-147 and product code 0515264. Since this is a higher number than the generic code 0515134 I assume I can't unbrand my phone, correct?

What I want to be able to do is use apps like Google Maps and Opera Mini with T-Mobile's $4.99 T-Zones service rather than having to pay $20 or $30 a month for their insanely overpriced whatevertheycallit service.

Posted by: razzamatazm

I believe we can do this, we just need the correct product number... someone gave the rogers one instead of the unbranded...

If anyone has an unbranded please let us know the correct code...

Posted by: Fat Ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by WindowPain

I downloaded NSS and it tells me my T-Mobile 5300 is RM-147 and product code 0515264. Since this is a higher number than the generic code 0515134 I assume I can't unbrand my phone, correct?

What I want to be able to do is use apps like Google Maps and Opera Mini with T-Mobile's $4.99 T-Zones service rather than having to pay $20 or $30 a month for their insanely overpriced whatevertheycallit service.

Im in the same boat. I have the latest update already. It came like that. I NEED opera mini to work or my job completely blows. I hate the browser im using now. I followed all the steps and I cant finish this process. Am I screwed?

Posted by: SiRTOPE

i did mind yesterday but i dont know if my software change...but here it is
04.49
RM-147
n im wit rogers....can some one check their phone thats wit rogers n see if its the same version as mind? i wanna know if i did it right thanks.....

Posted by: wazime

If you still have rogers software then you did it wrong, if I understand what has been written her. My phone is also 4.49 and I hav enot done anything to it.

Posted by: Rcadden

The reason it's likely that the branded versions are newer than the unbranded is obvious. They create the unbranded and then pitch it to the carrier, who decides what branding they want, and then they revise it. However, often they'll update the unbranded version, as well.

Your product code is nothing more than a random number, for all intents and purposes. It's not a progression, it's a number assigned, like a serial number for versions of a phone. Whoever has the UNBRANDED device should have an UNBRANDED product code. If not then iUnlock uses a different method that doesn't reset the product code.

Posted by: v1ralIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by WindowPain

it doesnt matter if its higher or not thats just the product code u can change it to all zeros and it'll change it but ur phone will be unrecognized. change it to the generic product code and you should be ok, unless ur firmware version number is higher than the current generic one, but you might be able to just reinstall it, if NSU lets you.

btw opera mini doesnt work with t-zones nemore at least on most parts of the US.
dunno bout maps though

Posted by: tiff_seattle

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1ralIV

btw opera mini doesnt work with t-zones nemore at least on most parts of the US.
dunno bout maps though

It will work just fine as long as you can give it access to the proxy. The problem is that the TMO branded firmware does not allow non TMO apps access to the network.

Posted by: VietN1

hayy check out this page

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com...essage.id=12795

near the middle of the page some guy posted his product code
and it was...
0537657

i think this mite be the unbranded product code
knowing hes from europe;
anyone willing to try if it works?

Posted by: kdm212

lol you go first then ill follow

Posted by: VietN1

haha i would but i dont have my phone with me right now
and btw the dude is from belgium soo im pretty sure
hes phone is unbranded
someone try it!

Posted by: kdm212

ya but will this take away our 850 band?

Posted by: Moshi

Hey all,

I really want to get this to work...I tried following the instructions but NSS keeps giving me this;

Testing Interfaces...
->USB DKU2....Supported.
->USB CA-53...Supported.
Testing Directories...
->DCT4 Loaders Dir('Flash')......Found.
-->0 file(s) found.
-->Please copy the loaders first!
->ADSP Loaders Dir('FlashUsb')...Found.
-->0 file(s) found.
-->Please copy the loaders first!
->DCT3 Loaders Dir('fls1sup')....Found.
-->0 file(s) found.
-->Please copy the loaders first!
->Products Dir('products').......Not Found.

Also when I go to phone info and scan I get Scan for product...Error!

Anybody help?

Posted by: Moshi

Okay got it to work...Just need the correct product code now...

Your product code is under your battery ... If someone bought an unbranded phone from Nokia, would that product code work?

Posted by: Fat Ken

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshi

Okay got it to work...Just need the correct product code now...

Your product code is under your battery ... If someone bought an unbranded phone from Nokia, would that product code work?

My product code is 0515264, but its the locked firmware. I entered other codes and it wont stay changed.

Man , I wish someone could come along and save my phone from being thrown out. I hate this locked phone crap

Posted by: Moshi

Does anyone know if Fat Ken's product code (Nokia 5300 on TMO) would be the same as another Nokia 5300 TMO's product code?

I'm on Rogers in Canada...product code 0515134...If anyone else has a 5300 Rogers branded, can you check to see if it's the same product code?

Posted by: sastek

My product code is also 0515264 it is T-Mobile branded.

There also appears to be a 5300 and a 5300b, I don't know if there would be any difference in the F/W, but it might be worth bearing in mind.

Posted by: v1ralIV

yea using a "a" product code on a "b" phone might brick the phone after updating firmware

Posted by: Moshi

Darn...Mine is a Rogers 5300b ... anyone know the reason for the two versions?

If anyone has an unbranded North American 5300a or 5300b can you post your product code?

Posted by: v1ralIV

a means 900 band version b is the 850 version

Posted by: quiksilv3r

so does this mean that rcaddens steps may most likely not work?

Posted by: Moshi

It should still work. You just need the right product code.

I have a 5300b locked/branded Rogers. If I find an unbranded 5300b product code NSS can change the code...I think this will work, just need a proper code.

This is the same method if you want to upgrade an N70 to N70 music edition...You can find tons of product codes on these including various countries and language sets.

Posted by: VietN1

i wonder why none of us can get
a hold of these codes....
dauymm nokia lock their phones good

Posted by: quiksilv3r

anyone brave enough to try european product codes? haha

Posted by: andrewln

Nokia 5300

RM-146

EMEA

0535638 EURO-A, Latin, RED
0537655 EURO-A, Latin, DARK GREY
0535639 EURO-B, Latin, RED
0537656 EURO-B, Latin, DARK GREY
0532158 EURO-C, Latin, RED
0537657 EURO-C, Latin, DARK GREY
0535643 EURO-C France, Latin, RED
0537659 EURO-C France, Latin, DARK GREY
0535647 EURO-C Turkey, Latin, RED
0537661 EURO-C Turkey, Latin, DARK GREY
0532161 EURO-C UK, Latin, RED
0537658 EURO-C UK, Latin, DARK GREY
0535645 EURO-C ALS, Latin, RED
0537660 EURO-C ALS, Latin, DARK GREY
0537603 EURO-D, Latin, RED
0537662 EURO-D, Latin, DARK GREY
0537604 EURO-E, Latin, RED
0537663 EURO-E, Latin, DARK GREY
0537607 EURO-F, Hebrew, RED
0537665 EURO-F, Hebrew, DARK GREY
0537615 EURO-H, Greek, RED
0537670 EURO-H, Greek, DARK GREY
0537618 EURO-I, Cyrillic, RED
0537812 EURO-I, Cyrillic, DARK GREY
0537651 EURO-I UKR, Cyrillic, RED
0537814 EURO-I UKR, Cyrillic, DARK GREY
0537653 EURO-I BRMD, Cyrillic, RED
0537825 EURO-I BRMD, Cyrillic, DARK GREY
0537652 EURO-I RU, Cyrillic, RED
0537834 EURO-I RU, Cyrillic, DARK GREY
0542756 EURO-D T-MOBILE CZ, GREY
0542757 EURO-D T-MOBILE CZ, RED
0542769 EURO-C T-MOBILE GERMANY, GREY
0542772 EURO-C T-MOBILE UK, RED
0542779 EURO-C T-MOBILE NL, RED
0542778 EURO-C T-MOBILE NL, GREY
0542784 EURO-C CTV UK, RED
0542785 EURO-C CTV UK, GREY
0540649 MEA-1, Arabic, RED
0540652 MEA-1, Arabic, DARK GREY
0540660 MEA-2, Arabic, RED
0540662 MEA-2, Arabic, DARK GREY
0540664 MEA-3, Latin, RED
0540663 MEA-3, Latin, DARK GREY
0540665 MEA-4, Urdu, RED
0540666 MEA-4, Urdu, DARK GREY
0540667 MEA-5, Farsi, RED
0540668 MEA-5, Farsi, DARK GREY
0540669 MEA-6, Latin, RED
0540670 MEA-6, Latin, DARK GREY
0540678 MEA-7, Latin, RED
0540679 MEA-7, Latin, DARK GREY
0540680 MEA-8, Latin, RED
0540681 MEA-8, Latin, DARK GREY
0540682 MEA-9, Latin, RED
0540683 MEA-9, Latin, DARK GREY
0540684 MEA-10, Latin, RED
0540685 MEA-10, Latin, DARK GREY
0540686 MEA-11, Latin, RED
0540687 MEA-11, Latin, DARK GREY
0540688 MEA-12, Latin, RED
0540689 MEA-12, Latin, DARK GREY
0540690 MEA-13, Latin, RED
0540691 MEA-13, Latin, DARK GREY
0542737 RM-146 5300 EURO-C O2 POSTPAY UK RED
0542743 RM-146 5300 EURO-C E-PLUS GERMANY RED
0542746 RM-146 5300 EURO-C VODAFONE GERMANY
0542753 RM-146 5300 EURO-A TDC DENMARK
0542763 RM-146 5300 EURO-C SWISSCOM CH RED
0542764 EURO-C, Latin, Swisscom GREY
0542767 RM-146 5300 EURO-D T-MOBILE SK
0542768 EURO-D, Latin, T-Mobile_SK RED
0542770 RM-146 5300 EURO-C T-MOBILE AUSTRIA
0542771 EURO-C GV, Latin, T-Mobile A RED
0543525 RM-146 5300 EURO-C ONE AUSTRIA RED
0543651 RM-146 5300 EURO-B ERA POLAND RED
0543652 EURO-C, Latin, PL ERA GREY
0543936 RM-146 5300 EURO-C TIM ITALY GREY
0543937 EURO-C, Latin, TIM Italy RED
0544003 RM-146 5300 EURO-D T-MOBILE CROATIA
0544805 EURO-C POST-PAY, Latin, O2_UK GREY
0544982 EURO-A, Latin, TDC_DK RED

APAC
0536221 APAC-P, BoPoMoFo, RED
0536682 APAC-P, BoPoMoFo, DARK GREY
0536667 APAC-Q, Stroke, RED
0536684 APAC-Q, Stroke, DARK GREY
0536668 APAC-Q MA, Stroke, RED
0536685 APAC-Q MA, Stroke, DARK GREY
0536669 APAC-R, Stroke, RED
0536686 APAC-R, Stroke, DARK GREY
0532162 APAC-S, Stroke, RED
0536695 APAC-S, Stroke, DARK GREY
0536687 APAC-S MALAYSIA, Stroke, RED
0536688 APAC-S MALAYSIA, Stroke, DARK GREY
0532164 APAC-T, Latin, RED
0536696 APAC-T, Latin, DARK GREY
0536671 APAC-T NZS, Latin, RED
0536689 APAC-T NZS, Latin, DARK GREY
0536674 APAC-T PHILIPPINES, Latin, RED
0536690 APAC-T PHILIPPINES, Latin, DARK GREY
0536679 APAC-V, Stroke, RED
0536692 APAC-V, Stroke, DARK GREY
0536675 APAC-W, Latin, RED
0536693 APAC-W, Latin, DARK GREY
0537232 APAC-R RED STROKE CTV_CN
0538094 APAC-R DARK GREY STROKE CTV_CN
0538096 APAC-P DARK GREY BOPOMOFO CTV_TW
0538095 APAC-P RED BOPOMOFO CTV_TW
0538114 APAC-Q RED STROKE CTV_HK
0538115 APAC-Q DARK GREY STROKE CTV_HK
0538117 APAC-T RED LATIN CTV_AU
0538118 APAC-T DARK GREY LATIN CTV_AU
0538124 APAC-S DARK GREY STROKE CTV_MY
0538123 APAC-S RED STROKE CTV_MY
0542582 APAC-U RED THAI OPV_MLINK
0542583 APAC-U DARK GREY THAI OPV_MLINK
0542611 APAC-T DARK GREY LATIN OPV_OPTUS
0542610 APAC-T RED LATIN OPV_OPTUS
0542621 APAC-U DARK GREY THAI OPV_AIS
0542614 APAC-U RED THAI OPV_AIS
0542622 APAC-U DARK GREY THAI OPV_DTAC
0542615 APAC-U RED THAI OPV_DTAC
0543263 APAC-T DARK GREY LATIN OPV_VIRGIN
0543262 APAC-T RED LATIN OPV_VIRGIN
0543354 APAC-S DARK GREY STROKE OPV_SINGTEL
0543353 APAC-S RED STROKE OPV_SINGTEL
0538139 RM-146 APAC-W RED LATIN CTV_INDIA
0538141 APAC-W, Latin, CTR_INDIA DARK GREY

Posted by: andrewln

but, we ned to find a way to downgrade our phone..

Posted by: quiksilv3r

none of those codes work for us?

Posted by: andrewln

i tried a couple...but it says my firmware is up to date

Posted by: Moshi

None of those will work for me...I have RM-147

where'd you find those codes Andrew?

Posted by: Moshi

Rogers and Fido do not give out any assistance on unlocking a phone. Even if the customer paid full price. This is not the case in the States and Europe. Thanks Canada.

Posted by: quiksilv3r

we're not trying to unlock we're trying to unbrand tho

Posted by: kdm212

this thread seems more and more dooming for my 5300 every time i look at it!

i guess i will send to even at iunlock.

Posted by: usual

My god, someone should make it clear. The firmware on your phones is higher than then the latest Nokia unbranded firmware. So even if you change the product code, you can't use NSU to update the firmware. The NSU is going to see you have firmware version 4.49 or 4.51 or whatever and compare it to the 3.92 that it considers to be the newest and say hey, these phones have higher firmware than I have and return the message that your phone is up to date.

You need to downgrade your phone to use NSU with a product code change. Good luck getting any one of the many people that know how to do this out there on the internet to share the information on how with you.

gsmhosting forums has lots of people that understand how this all works but they will just ignore your posts asking for information and or help. There are many other forums out there in many many languages but once again, good luck getting them to help you.

If anyone DOES manage to learn how to downgrade this phone please share with the rest of us, but if I am correct, you will all fail.

Good Luck.

Posted by: kdm212

boy usual, your a real downer! glass is totally half empty with you huh? well let me tell you something buddy! my glass is half full.

haha

Posted by: doodoo2

hahaha lol

Posted by: andrewln

what kind of music player does T-mobile uses? I accidently Depete my Music player (rogers) 1.8.3...and tried to download 1.9.0...it says Application Error...arrg

Posted by: bluesuga

i dont even know how to check....but theres like 5 threads about the music players on hofo you might wanna ask there

Posted by: doodoo2

whats HOFO ... and where would i find the updated version for the rogers music player, cuz i have 1.18.3 and i wouldnt mind trying a newer version, maybe the sound bug might have been fixed or something.

Posted by: kdm212

hofo=howard forums!

Posted by: doodoo2

it says Application Error .... does anyone know how to fix this, should i go to the rogers store beside my house, could they help ... and me trying to do this alot, will i have to pay for internet charges on my phone, just to update the music player?

Posted by: kdm212

lol thats the same deal as the regular helio site

Posted by: Nwahs

I'm thinking about getting this phone or the Rizr. I think that I'm going to hold off, however, until we can get the unbranding to work.

Posted by: doodoo2

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdm212

lol thats the same deal as the regular helio site

is that a yes or a no??? i dont understand and whats a helio site

Posted by: quiksilv3r

helio is a mobile phone company like amp'd or virgin

Posted by: razzamatazm

Back on topic. Is there anyway we can extract the branded firmware from the phone to see if there is something we could change on that to downgrade it. Will NSS extract a firmware file?

Posted by: Moshi

That's a good question...Anybody know? I've tried and have no luck finding an unbranded product code.

Posted by: kdm212

i looked and cant find a damn thing either

Posted by: razzamatazm

Well, what we've figured out thus far is:
1. Even if a product code is found, the f/w versions of the branded phones are higher than the official nokia build, thus even by changing the product code we'll still be stuck as the nokia updater will believe we have the most up to date phone.
2. What we need to figure out is how to modify the firmware version so it is lower than the official nokia one. So we need to figure out how to extract the firmware and modify it in order to put it back on the phone and update.

ei ei ei

Posted by: Poundz

ok so who on rogers is man enough to try the t-mo code?

cuz they do have access to their OEM music player as far as i know

Posted by: kdm212

so how do we extract the firmware? does that program nss do it?

Posted by: Moshi

I inquired today at an unlocking place in a large mall in downtown Toronto

about unlocking a 5300 and was told that they will be able to do it in a couple of weeks...Maybe they know something we don't.

Posted by: Server-Load

im in uk and have a t-mobile 5300...firmware version = 3.50
nokia site says its up to date, and will not upgrade..........whats the 3,92 f/w i see mentioned?..........anyone got a generic uk 5300 product code kickin around?,

Posted by: Poundz

I tried to email nokia and they said 'due to Roger's configurations we are unable to re-install your XpressMusic media player.'

and something about Rogers word superceding Nokia's...i dont feel like opening the email again.

they didnt give ANY reasoning...seems like some bull

Posted by: VietN1

that is a load of bull.
they created the phone
and should know how to disable
and configure the media player
inside and out;
even if roger's configured it.
this is kinda retarded i mean
what phone company doesnt know how
to remove the glitches another company made?
for god sakes they created it!

Posted by: evilgabbie

to clear up some confusion - to my knowledge

BB5 - free flashing tools = upgrading only cannot downgrade, you can try but you will brick your phone, and usb flashing doesn't fix many bricked BB5 phones

there is NO unbranded product code for RM147 (5300B) cause it doesn't exist.

RM146 - 5300 (900/1800/1900) can be flashed up and stuff using FREE nss / phoenix cracked, nsu, etc...

because most likely you are flashing the same firmware revision or updating

RM147 - 5300B (Rogers 5300B) phones you guys want to UNBRAND...

you cannot use RM146's product codes because your phone still reads as a RM147, even if you change it, the revision is 4.xx HIGHER than the 3.93 currently available for RM146... so NSU will tell you there isn't any updates.. (unless there is a trick i don't know of, if it exist, please post)

flashing with cracked phoenix will downgrade the firmware = brick phone (i tried and revived later just for the hell of it)

make any sense ?

Posted by: evilgabbie

BB5 - still NOT unlockable

BUT Rogers units, you can get a code, it's expensive, but yes it's doable...

BUT then again, 5300 = not expensive phone to start off with from Rogers, would you spend approx 60-70 for an unlock ?

Posted by: Moshi

"BUT Rogers units, you can get a code, it's expensive, but yes it's doable... "

I'm not sure you can. I called Rogers and was told that you used to be able to get codes from CSR's and it was very expensive ($250+) BUT they do not offer this anymore.

I bought the 5300 from Rogers at full price. They have their money. Why won't they unlock the HARDWARE I bought from them?

Posted by: doodoo2

cuz there gay...

btw the " rest. factory sett." code is : 12345 (dont know if its usefull to anyone but if you need it, there it is)

and the "PIN 2" code is : 7954 (dont know wat that does, but thats was the rogers lady told me)

Posted by: doodoo2

k nvm i just the "STICKY" about the codes... opps :P

Posted by: evilgabbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshi

"BUT Rogers units, you can get a code, it's expensive, but yes it's doable... "

I'm not sure you can. I called Rogers and was told that you used to be able to get codes from CSR's and it was very expensive ($250+) BUT they do not offer this anymore.

I bought the 5300 from Rogers at full price. They have their money. Why won't they unlock the HARDWARE I bought from them?

obviously not calling a CSR rep.....

can't post anymore without another temp ban

Posted by: blehkles

my phone is the exact same as Moshi's

i live in canada, and my provider is rogers

Posted by: ibgonzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

I followed these steps and the product code came up as 0515134 on my Rogers locked 5300.
Then, while screwing around with NSS, I changed the code to 0515133 and wrote it to the phone. This change caused the firmware tag to change to RM-146 and unlocked the Nokia music player in the media menu option, a push to talk option as well as another IM option in the main menu. The left side music player button controls now work with the Nokia player and everything else seams to work.
My only concern now is software updates as NSU also now sees the phone as a RM-146 V 04.49 but the Nokia music player and controls improve this phone and make it what I thought I was buying in the first place.
Thanks Rogers

Posted by: epoch555

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibgonzo

Thats a step forward! Does your phone work properly? Are you able to set ringtones as mp3s?

Posted by: Nwahs

How exactly did you change the code?

Posted by: marashka

I got IUnlock to unbrand my phone. Those guys are great if you are willing to shell out $35 on it without risking to brick your phone. Everything is beautiful, yet 3rd party apps still don't work with the 5.99 t-zones plan. Is there anything that needs to be configured?

Posted by: epoch555

What we need is to figure out how to pull the firmware out of an unbranded 5300b and upload it to our Rogers butchered versions. Anyone have any ideas?

Posted by: ibgonzo

In NSS, scan for new device( mag. glass in top right corner),
then click on phone info button, then scan button in middle of window, then click on product code checkbox to enable it, then press the read button
manually change the product code to 0515133 from 0515134
then press the write button
that's when I saw in the info window on that screen the RM # change from 147 to 146.

Mp3 ringtones have always worked for me in .awb format. The Nokia music player seems louder to me which is good and everything else still works as before. The push to talk feature doesn't seem to be supported by Rogers but I'm still learning about it.

Later

Posted by: epoch555

I changed the product code to 0515133, but my RM is still 147. Did you also run the update?

Posted by: epoch555

Unbranded 5300B owners: Can someone post the other info from the NSU Production data; i.e:
HW Version
Manufacture Month
Order Number
Prod Serial Number

Posted by: ibgonzo

I don't know what to tell ya. You pressed the write button after making the change, right?
Anyway, software update says there isn't one available

Posted by: epoch555

Yep, clicked enable and then write, although I think I see a problem. Under Device Info I see:
Testing Directories...
->DCT4 Loaders Dir('Flash')......Found.
-->0 file(s) found.
-->Please copy the loaders first!
->ADSP Loaders Dir('FlashUsb')...Found.
-->0 file(s) found.
-->Please copy the loaders first!
->DCT3 Loaders Dir('fls1sup')....Found.
-->0 file(s) found.
-->Please copy the loaders first!
->Products Dir('products').......Not Found.

Trying to find a solution on google..

Posted by: Moshi

Great job you guys! We're getting closer!

I will try this on my Rogers 5300b as well and post the results.

Posted by: kdm212

progress is coming nice job guys!

Posted by: epoch555

Not really progress.. unless Nokia releases a new version, this method will not work.

Posted by: ibgonzo

Ya, I'm pretty sure I've killed my ability to update my firmware 'cause I can't change her back to a 147
Until they come up with a V 4.5 for the RM-146.
That's about 53 updates away

Posted by: andrewln

hmm..i tried 0515133... but result similar to epoch555

Posted by: Poundz

im not mailing my phone to boston.

heres some ideas:
-anyone who had their phone debranded use NSS to see if your product code changed

-somebody on rogers try using the t mobile code, im pretty sure that at leasts fixes the media player problem for now

thats all for now.

Posted by: andrewln

rogers using t-mobile code will work if and only if t-mobile has a greater version firmware or wait until they update the firmware (if the same ver)

Posted by: nokia_man

Thanks for all the help debranding this phone. I have got to the same point as epoch55. I change the product code to 0515133 and no change.

Posted by: ibgonzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by epoch555

This could be part of the problem. I get Products Dir('products')........Found.
The only other thing I can think of that I did was awhile ago I used MobiMB and deleted Rogers tones, unwanted ringtones and anything else I didn't want in the phone memory to save space. HTH.

Posted by: Moshi

Bongo Wireless can debrand it...BUT it's $40...I think we can figure this out.

From their site:
03/12/07 | Why can't I play my MP3 ringtone on my Rogers Nokia 5300?
This is nothing new at all. Most network carriers are not allowing this feature and to be quite honest its pretty annoying to most while some don't really care. There is a fix for it and we can do it for $40.00, We can flash it and de-brand it as well if you hate the Rogers branding but keep it in mind that it may void your warranty with Rogers so its a chance you may or may not want to take. This goes fro most Rogers or Fido phones that the MP3's cannot be played as a ringtone. Let us know if you would like this service.

Posted by: Moshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibgonzo

manually change the product code to 0515133 from 0515134

Anyone know if this is reversable if it doesn't work?

Posted by: ibgonzo

I set my phone back to the original product code(0515134) in NSS and it took the code, but left the firmware code at RM-146 v4.49. I also tried the T-Mobile code from another forum and it did nothing so I changed it back to the original again.

Posted by: DRMEDR

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Originally Posted by Moshi

It should still work. You just need the right product code.

I have a 5300b locked/branded Rogers. If I find an unbranded 5300b product code NSS can change the code...I think this will work, just need a proper code.

This is the same method if you want to upgrade an N70 to N70 music edition...You can find tons of product codes on these including various countries and language sets.

well hello i have a 5300b and im trying to unlock it if u could hlep i would be happy thank you

Posted by: sisquoc15

Unlocking allows you to use your phone with other carrier’s SIM cards. Call your carrier and tell them that you are going traveling internationally. T-mobile will provide an unlock code within 48 hours.

Un/Debranding involves installing generic Nokia firmware to your phone. T-Mobile and Rodgers install a crippled firmware that doesn’t include all the features the 5300 is capable of. In particular the phones can’t use Google maps, Yahoo Go!, and many other fun 3rd party java applications. You’ll often first encounter this problem as a message saying “Certificate not on phone or sim”.

Bongo Wireless ($40) and iUnlock ($35) are companies that can debrand your phone.

On other phones, people do this themselves. One method involves using NSS (Nemesis Service Suite) to change the phone’s product code from a T-Mobile or Rodgers code to a generic code. Then you connect to the Nokia PC Suite and update your firmware. Since the PC Suite sees you phone as generic, it overwrites your branded firmware with an unbranded firmware.

However, with the 5300, there are two problems. First, no one to date has found an unbranded product code for North American 5300’s. Plenty of useless Euro ones around. Second, the firmware revision on T-Mobile and Rodgers phones is something like 4.51. The current version of the generic/unbranded firmware is 3.92. When the PC Suite goes to Nokia for a new firmware, it sees 4.51 is greater than 3.92 and declines to install the lower numbered firmware. This problem will end when someone posts a generic 5300 product code AND Nokia releases a generic firmware numbered higher then 4.51.

Another method involves using specialized flashing hardware (JAF by Odeon) to force the 3.92 firmware on the phone. See forum.gsmhosting.com for discussion of this method. There are reports of successful debranding on that forum using that equipment. I suspect this is what Bongo Wireless and iUnlock are using. The cost of the equipment is prohibitive for an individual wishing to debrand his/her phone.

A third method involves using Phoenix software to flash the phone to 3.92. There is a document floating around called BB5 Reaper that explains how to use the Phoenix software and a copy of the firmware to flash the phone to a generic firmware. I have not seen any reports of anyone using this method on the 5300. From my reading on other phones, downgrading the firmware to a lower number tends to “brick” (kill) the phone.

So, home debranders, for the moment we are stuck.

Posted by: NoNine

How is it that the stores in First Markham Place and IUnlock are able to unlock these phones, but we aren't? do they not use the same tools as we do?

For those who know where Pacific Mall is, I've been told that they do unlock phones for $10-20. Haven't actually checked it out myself, but I am planning to see whether or not they provide unlocking services for the 5300.

And I will gladly end this reply on a well respected and acknowledged note:

ROGERS SUCKS! =D

Thanks.

Posted by: Moshi

In response to sisquoc15, unlike TMo and other US carriers, Rogers will not provide unlock codes via CSR's. As for the stores who can do it, I am pretty sure they are using JAF boxes or something similar which cost far too much for a single unlock.

Aren't almost all Nokia phones unlockable without boxes except for BB5? Or at least at the present moment? Isn't that why Nokia introduced BB5? to keep the ******* carriers happy?

It will only be a matter of time before someone cracks BB5.

Posted by: evilgabbie

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Originally Posted by NoNine

How is it that the stores in First Markham Place and IUnlock are able to unlock these phones, but we aren't? do they not use the same tools as we do?

For those who know where Pacific Mall is, I've been told that they do unlock phones for $10-20. Haven't actually checked it out myself, but I am planning to see whether or not they provide unlocking services for the 5300.

And I will gladly end this reply on a well respected and acknowledged note:

ROGERS SUCKS! =D

Thanks.

nope =) we pay for tools, not the free ones online. and use fbus cables not usb, downgrading is NOT possible via usb to my knowledge

$25 - $40 bucks saves your *** from killing your phones..

unlocking the 5300 for 10-20... save your gas money and trust me it's not that cheap

Posted by: Poundz

keep in mind that any euro code you use, on a North American 5300, will change the bandwidth your phone works on.
ITS PRACTICALLY A DIFFERENT PHONE.

meaning, if u change it to a euro code and it does get your MP3 player going.....
your phones signal will go straight down the toilet.

from what i know, it should still work essentially...but very very poorly. and if, like me, you're shelling out the extra money to even be on the top of the line network like rogers...... you probably dont want to do that. up to you though.

i mean....if you shelled out all this money to buy the phone, plus more money for a bigger SD card than what came with it, AND your monthly bill towards rogers/t-mobile... all for an mp3 player.. knock yourself out.

Posted by: epoch555

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Originally Posted by Poundz

keep in mind that any euro code you use, on a North American 5300, will change the bandwidth your phone works on.
ITS PRACTICALLY A DIFFERENT PHONE.

meaning, if u change it to a euro code and it does get your MP3 player going.....
your phones signal will go straight down the toilet.

from what i know, it should still work essentially...but very very poorly. and if, like me, you're shelling out the extra money to even be on the top of the line network like rogers...... you probably dont want to do that. up to you though.

i mean....if you shelled out all this money to buy the phone, plus more money for a bigger SD card than what came with it, AND your monthly bill towards rogers/t-mobile... all for an mp3 player.. knock yourself out.

Has anyone actually proven that if you change the product code, you'll lose the 850 band? I've only heard speculation, not any facts.
IMO the phone is garbage with Roger's branding. Their music player is awful due to DRM and poor rogers coding. I would say its only worked about 1/2 the time. What's the point of getting a bigger card if your existing music collection cant be played on the phone? At least leave the Nokia player unlocked and let the customer have a choice, not to mention the inability to set mp3 ringtones, unless you buy them from Rogers. Top tier provider? perhaps in greed. Luckily for me this is my wife's phone, and my K790 suffers from none of these problems.

Anyways, has anyone made any progress? I've given up. I cant get NSS to stop giving me the loaders errors, and Diego wont start up either due to dongle error.. I think I'm gonna ship the phone off to get unbranded and tell the woman tough s#it.

Posted by: NoNine

Hey guys, i just went to pacific mall. All of them claim that they can't unlock the 5300 yet. Seems like they're all lying, considering that we can indeed unlock the phone through online companies.

and yeah, the price wasn't as cheap as i thought... but they varies drastically. Some said 25, some said 30-50, and one even said 110...very reassuring.

Maybe i'll reconsider paying for it and be a bit more patient. lol

Posted by: kocoman

Is there a crack for the NSU program? So that it would upgrade even if the firmware is newer?

Posted by: kocoman

I can't edit my previous message:

So I set NSS (rogers 0515134) my phone to t-mobile (0151264), RM-146 (0515133). But the updater says there is no updates. I have version 4.49.

There is also a Local mode, test mode, if I press those, the phone shuts off then say "Local mode", or "test mode" what do they do?

I have read the eeprom (.pm file), but because it was taking so long (even at 100%), I reboot the phone and then turn it back on. but then Windows detect a "Nokia USB Rom Parent" and "Nokia USB Rom generic". ? so I disconnect usb cable and reconnect it and it was fine again.

Posted by: Moderator HF 25

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Originally Posted by kocoman

Is there a crack for the NSU program? So that it would upgrade even if the firmware is newer?

I think even if there is one, it isn't a good idea to go further w/ this topic (i.e. cracking a Nokia program) here at HoFo.

Posted by: Moderator HF 25

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Originally Posted by kocoman

I can't edit my previous message:

So I set NSS (rogers 0515134) my phone to t-mobile (0151264), RM-146 (0515133). But the updater says there is no updates. I have version 4.49.

There is also a Local mode, test mode, if I press those, the phone shuts off then say "Local mode", or "test mode" what do they do?

I have read the eeprom (.pm file), but because it was taking so long (even at 100%), I reboot the phone and then turn it back on. but then Windows detect a "Nokia USB Rom Parent" and "Nokia USB Rom generic". ? so I disconnect usb cable and reconnect it and it was fine again.

When a phone is in the local mode or test mode, (in this case, triggered by the NSU), the things you've experienced will show up until you unplug the cable physically. BTW, it may require you to pull the battery to bring the phone back to normal mode again.

Posted by: Poundz

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Originally Posted by epoch555

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At least leave the Nokia player unlocked and let the customer have a choice, not to mention the inability to set mp3 ringtones, unless you buy them from Rogers. Top tier provider? perhaps in greed. Luckily for me this is my wife's phone, and my K790 suffers from none of these problems.

i was referring to the network.. yeah rogers is full of crap all the time, customer service wise theyre probably the worst.. but yeah..the network.

Posted by: a4pat

For those of you hwo want to use MP3 ringtones on your 5300 from Rogers, you just need to convert them to AWB files. The free tools and free serial numbers from Nokia are available form here: http://www.gromkov.com/faq/faq2004-0078.html

I can now use any sound file I want and shorten them in any sound editor, save them as MP3, then, I convert the file into AWB and it's all fine in the 5300 from Rogers. I guess they forgot about this file extension...

Posted by: NoNine

Hey guys, what's the difference between the stock Rogers player and the new Rogers player?

Posted by: bluesuga

im not sure but i know theres 5 or more threads about the rogers player..... maybe you should ask your question on one of those threads

Posted by: doodoo2

Way better sound quality for sure thats all i see thats different... and that was one of the main issues

Posted by: evilgabbie

FYI.

new generic firmware is out
4.71

Posted by: doodoo2

is this at all use full to someone with a rogers 5300?

Posted by: bluesuga

i guess it would be useful if u are willing to have your phone unbranded...

Posted by: kdm212

ok so how do we update to that firmware with tmoile branded phones

Posted by: je61

ok, now that theres new firmware, cant we do something?

Posted by: Moshi

I used NSS to manually change the product code to 0515133 from 0515134. The only thing that happened was my phone went from RM-147 to RM-146, two new icons in the main menu came up (a new IM icon and a PTT icon) and when I pressed the external play button it started to play an MP3 (not in the Rogers player) but I couldn't hear anything without headphones (I didnt try it with headphones...maybe I should.)

Posted by: andrewln

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Originally Posted by evilgabbie

FYI.

new generic firmware is out
4.71

are u sure? are they dumb enough to do that?..now we just need to find a way to get from 147 to 146..

Posted by: evilgabbie

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Originally Posted by andrewln

are u sure? are they dumb enough to do that?..now we just need to find a way to get from 147 to 146..

very sure after flashing 5-6 phones

Posted by: ibgonzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moshi

I used NSS to manually change the product code to 0515133 from 0515134. The only thing that happened was my phone went from RM-147 to RM-146, two new icons in the main menu came up (a new IM icon and a PTT icon) and when I pressed the external play button it started to play an MP3 (not in the Rogers player) but I couldn't hear anything without headphones (I didnt try it with headphones...maybe I should.)

That's exactly how I did it too, except I can play tunes on the phone external speaker as well. And the media player works in the background so you can play a game or whatever while your mp3's are playing. The mic. button on the nokia earbuds also works to skip to another song if you want.
The new player can be found in media folder in the main menu.

Is there a need to flash to 146 firmware and risk losing the 850 band when the features I wanted were unlocked without the flash.

Is there a benefit to this firmware upgrade? If so, what product code would you use for the upgrade?

Posted by: kocoman

Why is it that when I use the nokia included usb mini din cable it is detected fine, but while I use a regular mini din cable I would get "Power surge on hub port"?

I used a V3 cable and it was ok.

Anyway I changed the 133 to 134 but the RM doesn't change from 147 to 146??
Then the updater says my phone is already latest.. 4.49 RM-147 (rogers)

How to change the RM? Its not working for me

What version of NSS are you using? I am using the .10 version. and it doesn't seem to need "gsm-magic" to enable anything. should I use an older version?

From the threads:

Ibonzo says he got RM-147 to RM-146
then Moshi got it also?? (with 2 new icons PTT,etc after)

How is it possible to change the RM-147 to RM-146 using NSS (Nemesis) without using the NSU yet?? It doesn't make sense???

now epoach555, me and andrewln -- no progress yet?

What is the 4.71 generic for? I guess RM-146?

I have tried the .9 version at http://server2.dimonvideo.ru/upload...87/NSS10389.zip but still doesn't change the RM at all...

Posted by: ibgonzo

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Originally Posted by kocoman

What version of NSS are you using? I am using the .10 version. and it doesn't seem to need "gsm-magic" to enable anything. should I use an older version?

From the threads:

Ibonzo says he got RM-147 to RM-146
then Moshi got it also?? (with 2 new icons PTT,etc after)

How is it possible to change the RM-147 to RM-146 using NSS (Nemesis) without using the NSU yet?? It doesn't make sense???

now epoach555, me and andrewln -- no progress

I know it makes no sense, but as soon as I wrote the new product code to the phone, the RM rolled over on it's own. I didn't change the firmware at all.
I used Nemesis 1.0.38.9 HTH

Posted by: kocoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibgonzo

I know it makes no sense, but as soon as I wrote the new product code to the phone, the RM rolled over on it's own. I didn't change the firmware at all.
I used Nemesis 1.0.38.9 HTH

So the firmware was still (before running NSU) RM-147. While the "Identification String" changed... did you plug in a regular or locked sim card?

Did you also able to upgrade to the 4.71 with the NSU for your RM-146?
Also what is HTH?

Can any else in gsm-forums,etc forums confirm this? Moshi? Quite desperate to get my fido sim card working on this phone. Even if 850 is not supported.

Posted by: ultimakulu

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Originally Posted by ibgonzo

I know it makes no sense, but as soon as I wrote the new product code to the phone, the RM rolled over on it's own. I didn't change the firmware at all.
I used Nemesis 1.0.38.9 HTH

doesn't work for me >.< (mini-USB connection with NSS 1.0.38.10 & nothing else)

what other program you have besides NSS?
and what exactly you've done to the phone or NSS before the RM change happened?

Posted by: epoch555

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Originally Posted by evilgabbie

very sure after flashing 5-6 phones

So, on the phones you've flashed to rm-146, have you lost the 850 band? Any reception issues?

Posted by: kdm212

how about we put together a step by walk through. can we please do that? anyone who has done the flash successfully im asking you...

thanks