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Verizon nixes new 7135 activations
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Posted by: jordanbrown

Back in December 2006 I bought a used 7135 to replace my deceased KX2. (Maybe I'll write up that story some time. Suffice it to say that it didn't survive a ~180' drop test.) Verizon stumbled a bit activating it, but succeeded with little trouble.

My 7135 took a swim in a creek a week or so ago, and didn't survive the experience. (Perhaps it would have if I hadn't kept trying to power it up during the day... it looked like it was getting better, and then died.)

OK, sigh, bought another used one.

Verizon wouldn't activate it. The initial statement was that it wasn't E911 compliant (which is false), and when they dug a bit deeper they found that because "it caused too many problems" they had decided to no longer support it. Supposedly that decision was made in early 2006. It was unclear why I was able to activate one in December, but perhaps they actually disabled them at the end of the year.

My personal story has a happy ending, because I was able to transplant the phone board from the dead 7135 into the "new" one and so move the ESN, and the problem stayed with the old phone.

Others might not be so lucky.

This is really too bad, because there are no other PalmOS phones with conventional phone pads. I don't want the QWERTY pad that's on the Treo; I want a full-sized phone pad. There's one Windows Mobile phone with a conventional pad, but I'm not quite ready to turn to the Dark Side.

(BTW, if you want to attempt a brain transplant like this, you need a Torx T-6 driver and you need to watch out for a couple of clips on the sides that hold the phone together even after you've removed the screws.)

Posted by: SimpleKindaMan

7135 = poo phone. End of story.

Posted by: Black Cat

The 7135 has not been able to be activated since late 2005 or early 2006 on the Verizon network. It is not E911 compliant (an FCC mandate).

Posted by: jordanbrown

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Originally Posted by Black Cat

The 7135 has not been able to be activated since late 2005 or early 2006 on the Verizon network.

I activated a 7135 on Verizon (in Los Angeles, if it matters) in December 2006.

I believe that their memo announcing that they were dropping support was dated April 2006 or so. Apparently there was still a loophole in December, and it has since been closed.

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Originally Posted by Black Cat

It is not E911 compliant (an FCC mandate).

The 7135 *is* E911 compliant. Two of the three Verizon operators I talked to, the two who were willing to research the matter, confirmed this. The Kyocera features list (http://www.kyocera-wireless.com/713...ne/features.htm) includes "GPS locator", and the phone's preferences include the usual option for whether to offer location to all services, or only to emergency services.

Posted by: Black Cat

Interesting. I confirmed with a local dealer that their activation site rejects the handset as non E911 compliant. Customer service can force the activation, but most won't.

We do insurance work and everyone has been bounced on Verizon and Alltel for more than a year.

Thanks for the info. I will pass it on.

Posted by: jordanbrown

Indeed, the Verizon operators get a message about it being not E911 compliant or "not network compliant" (or something like that). If they research it further (which two did), then they find that it is indeed e911 compliant but is administratively disabled. It appears that customer service *used* to be able to override this but can no longer.

Posted by: AgeNt B

What you should do is take the esn from your dead kx2 and write that esn to the 7135. Then Verizon won't know the difference

just do a search on www.howardforums.com for esn write...the best program for this is called uniCDMA

Posted by: jordanbrown

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Originally Posted by AgeNt B

What you should do is take the esn from your dead kx2 and write that esn to the 7135. Then Verizon won't know the difference

Thanks, but in my case not necessary. I *was* able to activate a 7135 in December, and then when it met its untimely end I was able to transplant its phone board (with ESN) over to a replacement 7135. I now have a 7135 that's 75% new (well, new to me) with the old ESN. I'm up and running.

Posted by: ADent

When our company transfered corporate phone accounts to personal accounts (new acct #'s from Verizon) in May 2007 I was worried my QCP-6035 would be a goner. So I picked up a three pack of used Verizon 7135's, one of which Verizon said was activatable, one not, didn't get the 3rd checked. The 6035 did transfer over so the 7135s sat here.

Last week I got PagePlus to activate one of the 'other' 7135s on PagePlus (Which is a Verizon Reseller - prepaid accts only). Works well.