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E90 will support U.S. 3G!!!

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Posted by: abhi

http://technoblabber.abhishta.net/2...e-1700mhz-umts/

Wow! I'm speechless.



Posted by: JP

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Quote:
Originally Posted by abhi


excellent



Posted by: johnh_21

just saw that! this is good news!



Posted by: angel_wing0

good for the us ppl..rcadden is probably so excited right now



Posted by: abhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_wing0
good for the us ppl..rcadden is probably so excited right now


I was going to i.m. him, but he's never online when you want him to!

I feel like dancing. Too bad i'm in the library or I would've.



Posted by: AdmiralAK

we are returning to 'american' and 'world' models - just make them all quad/quadband ;-)



Posted by: abhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAK
we are returning to 'american' and 'world' models - just make them all quad/quadband ;-)


hmm, you make a good point. For all you know, it might be quadband umts. The reason why only 850 and 1900 and 1700 are mentioned is bcos its relevant to the U.S., while 2100 is not. I guess that's why we don't see gsm 900/1800 on the list as well.



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAK
we are returning to 'american' and 'world' models - just make them all quad/quadband ;-)

it will happen in the future...just like how triband became common



Posted by: Dr Tran

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ation-t-mobile/

WCDMA 1700

Its coming to T-Mobile!



Posted by: abhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Tran
WCDMA 1700

Its coming to T-Mobile!


Yep!!! That makes me very happy as well!



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAK
we are returning to 'american' and 'world' models - just make them all quad/quadband ;-)

I agree! Nothing better than a quadquad. However, i'll believe the quadband UMTS when I see it! Perhaps the FCC is authorizing the importing of Cing/Tmo protos but I highly doubt a US carrier is picking this up!...although they did pick up the 9300. I'm very skeptical!



Posted by: boston_errol

that would be pretty sweet but i'll believe it when i see it.

look what's happening with the n75.



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by boston_errol
that would be pretty sweet but i'll believe it when i see it.

look what's happening with the n75.

Nah...that auction is legit! It's coming but it doesnt really offer more than the 3G capabilities IMO. Sure it's got the browser and it's of course S60 but the Camera and form factor are str8 up boring



Posted by: Kevlarman

Yay?



Posted by: boston_errol

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
Nah...that auction is legit! It's coming but it doesnt really offer more than the 3G capabilities IMO. Sure it's got the browser and it's of course S60 but the Camera and form factor are str8 up boring

oh wow an auction when it hits retail outlets i will officially recognize its officialness



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by boston_errol
oh wow an auction when it hits retail outlets i will officially recognize its officialness

I think we're excited for the US3G and the fact that the phone is actually going to hit our shores! I'm not getting it but I'm glad it exists. The American population will eat anything they're served! It's about time Nokia takes its rightful place in the leader of the free world. The auction is significant only as it's presenting a non-prototype, branded and ready for release US S60!



Posted by: houman

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e90-1857.php

I am speechless, HSDPA 3.6!

(me want one now!)



Posted by: houman

Hrm, According to: http://europe.nokia.com/A4346043

it's WCDMA 2100, are they doing a diff US release ?



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by houman
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e90-1857.php

I am speechless, HSDPA 3.6!

(me want one now!)

General Network HSDPA / GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Announced 2007, February
Status Coming Soon

It makes no mention of which HSDPA frequency it uses. I have a feeling it's the 2100mhz variant. I dont think we're going to see any of these quad/quads in the mainstream. I'm sure we'll see the randomUS 3g's like the few 850mhz 9500s that became available. The Cingular N80s with US 3G had to be approved by the FCC but it doesnt mean we're going to get them here. Again, if their is one bit of optimism it's the fact that Cingular carries the 9300 Communicator. I rarely see people using it but i've noticed a lot more E62s in use in my area. Hopefully the US becomes a viable S60 market and their left with no choice but to include all of our frequencies in future models.



Posted by: houman

Yeah check the nokia link, it's WCDMA 2100...



Posted by: angel_wing0

it will be funny if a canadian (carmovies? jp? ) wins the auction just to spite off the us ppl



Posted by: Protagonist

Quote:
Originally Posted by houman
Yeah check the nokia link, it's WCDMA 2100...


check this link:

Code:
http://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=274210&fcc_id='PYARA-6'


Quote:
WCDMA on the 850mhz, 1700mhz, 1900mhz bands


I really hope this has tmo AWS spectrum HSDPA support, I have no intention of switching my GSM line to cingular.



Posted by: DonaldMick

They're going to have to run tests at 2100mhz as well because that's the upload (IIRC) frequency for T-Mobile 3g. So would this make it the first dual mode quadband phone?

Of course, I take this with quite a few grains of salt. Until it's actually out and operating at those frequencies, I won't believe it. Still, it'd be nice to see the Guru and Olly proven wrong about how there won't be unbranded 3g phones for North American consumption



Posted by: pauldg

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
Again, if their is one bit of optimism it's the fact that Cingular carries the 9300 Communicator.


i don't care who carries it...it's the perfect unlocked phone for future compatability. I'd prefer an unlocked/unbranded version.

I think i wet myself when i saw this on Engadgetmobile. wouldn't this be the first time the US is among the 1st to get some high-end 3g love from any phone manufacturer, except HTC



Posted by: macfreak

Someone said on the comments of that EngadgetMobile post that they couldn't find any reference to 1700 or 1900 on those FCC documents.

Can you see them?



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldg
i don't care who carries it...it's the perfect unlocked phone for future compatability. I'd prefer an unlocked/unbranded version.

I think i wet myself when i saw this on Engadgetmobile. wouldn't this be the first time the US is among the 1st to get some high-end 3g love from any phone manufacturer, except HTC

I agree...I would prefer an unlocked/unbranded phone but that doesnt change the fact that I dont think we're ever going to see a quadband 3g phone anytime soon....at least from Nokia! Regardless of the bands i'm buying this phone so US 3g is just gravy imo.



Posted by: friedbrains

Quote:
Originally Posted by abhi


THIS IS THE LINK TO THE FCC certification for the Nokia E90, that piece of paper being mentioned is not in that list, it might just be the confidential one, but the test report clearly says 2100 WCDMA...

nothing is confrimed yet, so you better hold on untill we get a more definite confirmation, but it is highly possible that this will be for the NA E90, that somebody hinted about...


edit this is interesting though, DL the pdf below and see page 7

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...tive_or_pdf=pdf




Posted by: breaksraver13

If this happens it would be an answer to all our prayers. Yay, Nokia!!! We all knew you could do it.....Was it really that hard?



Posted by: cbreze

I've put a hold on buying anymore phones untill something comes out for t-mobile's 3G network.
If the E90 works on it then that is my next device. I'll believe it when I see it tho , but man, I can't wait to see it. I 've wanted this phone since I first heard about it and if it's compatible with 3g tmo then I'll be all over it.



Posted by: newtype2011

Like some people have said, I'll believe it when I see it.

Would anyone in here switch to tmobile for this bad boy?



Posted by: pauldg

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
I agree...I would prefer an unlocked/unbranded phone but that doesnt change the fact that I dont think we're ever going to see a quadband 3g phone anytime soon....at least from Nokia! Regardless of the bands i'm buying this phone so US 3g is just gravy imo.


if your argument is that nokia needs a major US 3G carrier to pick this phone up, b4 a NA version is actually produced (a la N80), i think the playing field has changed. i honestly could care less about UMTS 2100, but wouldn't be cheaper for Nokia, in the long run, to produce one quad band gsm and quad band UMTS, rather than producing different variations for different regions.

I hope Nokia realized that typically NA carriers like cheap phones, and to peddal their high-end phones in the US, they need alternate distribution, like their flagship stores. it looks to me, with the inclusion of both WCDMA 850/1900 AND 1700, that it'll be shopped around to both carriers, but even if neither picks up the e90 they can still sell it for use with BOTH Tmo and AT&Tingular 3G.

If it isn't 3g (Specifically 850/1900) i won't get it. But that's just me



Posted by: romeo26

Quote:
Originally Posted by newtype2011
Like some people have said, I'll believe it when I see it.

Would anyone in here switch to tmobile for this bad boy?


i wouldnt switch to tmobile!! ill stick with CINGULAR...plus it said that it has utms1900 too! thats cingular right?



Posted by: Blazers4ever

There's no official word that the two carriers are even going to carry it. One or both might pick it up (or not), and Nokia could just sell the phone themselves for use on both networks, kind of like what S.E. did with the N.A. version of the P910a.



Posted by: abhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by DonaldMick
They're going to have to run tests at 2100mhz as well because that's the upload (IIRC) frequency for T-Mobile 3g. So would this make it the first dual mode quadband phone?

Of course, I take this with quite a few grains of salt. Until it's actually out and operating at those frequencies, I won't believe it. Still, it'd be nice to see the Guru and Olly proven wrong about how there won't be unbranded 3g phones for North American consumption


hmm, I know they bought spectrum from 2100/1700 band, but I haven't seen any document saying that their uplink will be 2100MHz.
Technically, t-mo can deploy the uplink in the 1900mhz freq as well, making their 3G : 1900/1700. And with nokia having an active role in their 3G deployment, who knows!



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldg
if your argument is that nokia needs a major US 3G carrier to pick this phone up, b4 a NA version is actually produced (a la N80), i think the playing field has changed. i honestly could care less about UMTS 2100, but wouldn't be cheaper for Nokia, in the long run, to produce one quad band gsm and quad band UMTS, rather than producing different variations for different regions.

I hope Nokia realized that typically NA carriers like cheap phones, and to peddal their high-end phones in the US, they need alternate distribution, like their flagship stores. it looks to me, with the inclusion of both WCDMA 850/1900 AND 1700, that it'll be shopped around to both carriers, but even if neither picks up the e90 they can still sell it for use with BOTH Tmo and AT&Tingular 3G.

If it isn't 3g (Specifically 850/1900) i won't get it. But that's just me

What your saying makes perfect sense....unfortunately Nokia has a track record of not making sense. Why release the 8800 only to release the 850 (8801) variant less than a year later. It certainly cant be the "850" antenna as other people had claimed. If motorola can make the rzr quadband then any phone shouldnt be limited physically. Why release the 8800 scirocco with 900/1800/1900? Why not quadband as well? My point is that a NA carrier wont have to pick this up before they make it fully compatible here in the states....they just wont make it compatible. I dont see a carrier picking this up as the asking price will be too expensive for the average NA consumer. Nokia doesnt seem to think we're a priority so developing a phone that Tmob and Cingular might consider isnt a concern of theirs imo. I wish it was and I would think the E90 at least should have every bell and whistle throw into it. ......but I feel it wont.



Posted by: pfreitas

"Nokia E90 has lots of 3G Bands? Prove It!
Filed under: gadgets, nokia - 02 Mar 2007 23:46
I’m not sure where Engadget is getting their information, but based on everything that is publicly available, as well as private information I’ve seen in Nokia, I believe that the only 3G band supported on the Nokia E90 will be WCDMA 2100. I would love for Engadget to be right on this, though, but there’s no evidence they are.

We could always go with the Nokia E90 technical specifications page on Nokia’s site, but let’s go with the FCC documentation that Engadget links to. I poured through all of the PDF files and could not find a single page on any of the documents that matched the one they pictured in the story. Nothing in any of the documentation Engadget links to even mentions WCDMA 1700. You would think that WCDMA 1700 would appear in the SAR reports if it supported that band, don’t you think?

This is either sloppy reporting or someone is making this up. Or they’re talking about the phone after the Nokia E90. Whatever, but I have no reason to believe they’re right on this one."

This is from a Nokia employees blog! 'nuff said!



http://www.phoneboy.com/node/1364



Posted by: breaksraver13

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
What your saying makes perfect sense....unfortunately Nokia has a track record of not making sense. Why release the 8800 only to release the 850 (8801) variant less than a year later. It certainly cant be the "850" antenna as other people had claimed. If motorola can make the rzr quadband then any phone shouldnt be limited physically. Why release the 8800 scirocco with 900/1800/1900? Why not quadband as well? My point is that a NA carrier wont have to pick this up before they make it fully compatible here in the states....they just wont make it compatible. I dont see a carrier picking this up as the asking price will be too expensive for the average NA consumer. Nokia doesnt seem to think we're a priority so developing a phone that Tmob and Cingular might consider isnt a concern of theirs imo. I wish it was and I would think the E90 at least should have every bell and whistle throw into it. ......but I feel it wont.

I don't think that you stand alone with that remark. Of course they wont that's why they are Nokia, and why we will forever have that / relationship with them. And I agree with a remark that someone made in the N75 thread, it seems to me that Cingular is increasingly become more and more like the Big "V" with there branding.



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by breaksraver13
I don't think that you stand alone with that remark. Of course they wont that's why they are Nokia, and why we will forever have that / relationship with them. And I agree with a remark that someone made in the N75 thread, it seems to me that Cingular is increasingly become more and more like the Big "V" with there branding.

Take a look at Vodafone customers. Their FW's are completely hijacked as well. It's par for the course. Unlocked/Unbranded phones are Better no matter what provider you use.



Posted by: breaksraver13

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
Take a look at Vodafone customers. Their FW's are completely hijacked as well. It's par for the course. Unlocked/Unbranded phones are Better no matter what provider you use.


Will do..........have never seen a GUI of a Vodafone phone before.


I am 100% with ya on that one......I never realized what people meant on here when they said that until about 1-2 years ago when I bought an unbranded phone. It was like ....so much better IMO.



Posted by: abhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
"Nokia E90 has lots of 3G Bands? Prove It!
Filed under: gadgets, nokia - 02 Mar 2007 23:46
I’m not sure where Engadget is getting their information, but based on everything that is publicly available, as well as private information I’ve seen in Nokia, I believe that the only 3G band supported on the Nokia E90 will be WCDMA 2100. I would love for Engadget to be right on this, though, but there’s no evidence they are.

We could always go with the Nokia E90 technical specifications page on Nokia’s site, but let’s go with the FCC documentation that Engadget links to. I poured through all of the PDF files and could not find a single page on any of the documents that matched the one they pictured in the story. Nothing in any of the documentation Engadget links to even mentions WCDMA 1700. You would think that WCDMA 1700 would appear in the SAR reports if it supported that band, don’t you think?

This is either sloppy reporting or someone is making this up. Or they’re talking about the phone after the Nokia E90. Whatever, but I have no reason to believe they’re right on this one."

This is from a Nokia employees blog! 'nuff said!


http://www.phoneboy.com/node/1364



He puts in a statement that he couldn't find a single fcc document that shows wcdma 1700 for the e90. But friedbrains has already posted the link to fcc document that shows the page engadget is referring to.

Confusion everywhere!



Posted by: wierdo

If this is true, I think I'll have to give up on my dream of one of those TiVo Series3s.



Posted by: J.Bruha

Like the N77 that won't work in the States anyway?



Posted by: sr1329

Sorry guys it looks like a photochop. I'll get excited when I hear it from Nokia.



Posted by: abhi

Quote:
Originally Posted by sr1329
Sorry guys it looks like a photochop. I'll get excited when I hear it from Nokia.


Ohh Man, at least read through the thread before making lame comments! That page actually exists in an fcc document, fyi.

The fact remains that there is an fcc document for the E90 that has wcdma 1700 in it.
Irrespective of whether results of the wcdma tests were documented in that pdf or not, could someone explain why wcdma 1700 is in there if the phone should not work on that band.



Posted by: sr1329

Quote:
Originally Posted by abhi
Ohh Man, at least read through the thread before making lame comments! That page actually exists in an fcc document, fyi.

The fact remains that there is an fcc document for the E90 that has wcdma 1700 in it.
Irrespective of whether results of the wcdma tests were documented in that pdf or not, could someone explain why wcdma 1700 is in there if the phone should not work on that band.



Alright you were right. However, I won't be expecting a US HSDPA model until it is announced by Nokia. I really don't need any more disappointment in my life right now.

Those numbers could have been from a prototype that had the extra bands just in case they want to release a US model later. Who knows, when I heard that the E90 won't be out until Sept or Oct, I lost interest and decided on the N95. Waiting for the N95 from last Aug when it was announced to now has been a really draining experience. I can't deal with waiting for something else until Sept this year. If a US model should come out it probably won't be until next January at the earliest anyway. This Nokia speculation and waiting game is getting to be a bit much, and I just want an N95 and be happy and not come back here for a couple of months.



Posted by: abhi

Okay so now I know why this phone will not support U.S. 3G

The table that engadget highlights tells us the limits for the for spurious emissions and they ARE NOT any measurements. The actual tests are only conducted on the gsm 850/1900 bands.



Time to issue a retraction on my blog



Posted by: unfuccwittable

this phone was never going to have US 3G bands. If it did, Nokia would have announced it when they announced the phone at 3GSM. This phone having US 3G bands is quite the selling point and Nokia would have definitely took advantage of that. It would have created a lot more hype (not that it needs anymore) for the phone and would definitely drive up sales. So in conclusion, the E90 will not have US 3G Bands.

discuss.



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by abhi
Ohh Man, at least read through the thread before making lame comments! That page actually exists in an fcc document, fyi.

The fact remains that there is an fcc document for the E90 that has wcdma 1700 in it. Irrespective of whether results of the wcdma tests were documented in that pdf or not, could someone explain why wcdma 1700 is in there if the phone should not work on that band.

Again, I would love to believe this is going to become a reality but whether they manufacture 2 different versions of the E90 is the kicker. When the E70 was released as a tri-band I dont think anyone on these boards knew of a possible NA tri on the horizon. Rather than making a quadband, Nokia manufactured 2 seperate models. In this case it makes little sense to release a quadband GSM/2100wcdma model and a quadband gsm/850/1900/1700 model. I think the fact that the phone is going to be quadband no matter what minimizes the chance of having the NA 3g frequencies. Nokia has formally announced it as 2100 only and people in the business (and Nokia employees) have deemed it a 2100 only. It leaves only the speculation from Engadget and these boards that the possibility exists. I would love to see the FCC documents on the N80 and the 9500. Few proto N80s existed with 850/1900UMTS and a few 9500s existed with NA tri. Those may have been on the FCC spec sheets but were never put into production on a massive level. I do believe a few E90s will be produced with the proper frequencies so Tmob and Cingular can do their testing and deciding but I dont think we're going to see them become available. For now, it's clear that Nokia has stated that the phone will have WCDMA 2100 only.

http://europe.nokia.com/A4346043

Key featuresKey featuresBrowse the Internet and transfer media-rich files via HSDPA (up to 3.6 Mbit/s enabled) and 3G high-speed mobile broadband
Increase mobile productivity with applications for browsing and editing documents
Talk on every continent with quad-band GSM and automatic switching between bands
Access voice and data functions quickly and easily with convenient shortcut keys
Locate meeting venues, restaurants, and places of interest with the integrated GPS
Send images captured with the integrated 3.2 megapixel camera with flash and autofocus
Operating frequencyOperating frequencyGSM quad-band (850/900/1800/1900)
WCDMA 2100

SizeSizeVolume: 140 cc
Weight: 210 g
Dimensions: 132 x 57 x 20 mm




Posted by: angel_wing0

so it will not have usa 3g anymore eh...oh well sorry now i feel sorry gor abhi and rcadden~



Posted by: Blazers4ever

Well since the Qualcomm vs. Nokia case has been pushed back until summer, I seriously doubt Nokia would throw in 850/1900 HSDPA in their chipset before this case is settled......either in court, or out of court.



Posted by: drewyehboi

Just got back into town, I know ricky is on a camping trip, I'm gonna try and get in touch with thim but I think it was one of those no phone trips.



Posted by: thebaker

Quote:
Originally Posted by abhi
Okay so now I know why this phone will not support U.S. 3G

The table that engadget highlights tells us the limits for the for spurious emissions and they ARE NOT any measurements. The actual tests are only conducted on the gsm 850/1900 bands.



Time to issue a retraction on my blog


Well that's good news for us Cingy users

If it is in fact released with dual mode hsdpa in those bands then fuggedaboutit, the N95 is a dinosaur and this is the new toy. At least for me ...



Posted by: thebaker

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
For now, it's clear that Nokia has stated that the phone will have WCDMA 2100 only.


DOH! oh well, got my hopes up too soon.



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by drewyehboi
Just got back into town, I know ricky is on a camping trip, I'm gonna try and get in touch with thim but I think it was one of those no phone trips.

i cant imagine ricky's reaction after hearing the news



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by drewyehboi
Just got back into town, I know ricky is on a camping trip, I'm gonna try and get in touch with thim but I think it was one of those no phone trips.

sure it was! Somehow I doubt his N73 isnt somewhere close by!



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
sure it was! Somehow I doubt his N73 isnt somewhere close by!

his gf took it



Posted by: pfreitas

hopefully he doesnt get any incriminating text messages while she has it



Posted by: Rcadden

haha guys, I'm back. Photos from the trip are of course on Flickr, you can grab the link from the site in the top bar.

Yeah I read all the stuff about the E90 and the N95 being US 3G, and I have to say, I'm more convinced that IF either is true, that they're going back to the old "a" and "b" version tactics of yesteryear. Which means the US is STILL in the dark.

However, I haven't fully read everything or browsed through the FCC myseelf, so I can't officially comment. It was a great camping trip, btw, i've got about 40+ tabs open with stuff that i need to post on. But first it's a shower for me and a bath for the mutt.

Rest assured, whatever the first US 3G s60 that comes out is, I'll have one.



Posted by: unfuccwittable

this phone isnt gonna have us 3g. if it did it would have been announced already. especially if there were gonna be two versions. its sad to say, but nokia has left NA out in the cold again.



Posted by: pfreitas

lol...glad to see your back in one piece....and does that include the n75?



Posted by: Rcadden

honestly, haven't decided yet, but I'm leaning towards yes, actually. I might temporarily bid farewell to my N73.



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by unfuccwittable
this phone isnt gonna have us 3g. if it did it would have been announced already. especially if there were gonna be two versions. its sad to say, but nokia has left NA out in the cold again.

yip its confirmed, but we should ask a mod to change the title of this thread



Posted by: AdmiralAK

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcadden
It was a great camping trip, btw, i've got about 40+ tabs open with stuff that i need to post on. But first it's a shower for me and a bath for the mutt.


Camping? shower? you mean you dont keep up with hofo on your smartphone ?



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralAK
Camping? shower? you mean you dont keep up with hofo on your smartphone ?

lol...are you kidding? He's as much a junkie as any of us. He already said he's been following some of the threads on the boards.



Posted by: Rcadden

I actually didn't use my phone other than to take and upload pics from friday morning till tonite around 5p.



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcadden
I actually didn't use my phone other than to take and upload pics from friday morning till tonite around 5p.

No one here doubted you!



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcadden
I actually didn't use my phone other than to take and upload pics from friday morning till tonite around 5p.

how come u didnt use your phone?



Posted by: DonaldMick

Because if the photos are any indication, he would've needed a bag phone to get signal.



Posted by: Rcadden

actually, the state park I was in has great service. I've just grown up where camping is a no-electronics activity. Other than using my phone as a digital cam, it's honestly kinda nice to completely unplug for a few days.



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcadden
actually, the state park I was in has great service. I've just grown up where camping is a no-electronics activity. Other than using my phone as a digital cam, it's honestly kinda nice to completely unplug for a few days.

So was it on Silent or Off-line Mode? ...because you had it with you...



Posted by: bodeh6

If the E90 does come out with USA 3G bands 850/1700/1900, I wouldn't expect either T-Mobile or Cingular to pick it up. I think it is too much phone for them to handle. Buying unlocked/unbranded though will be quite expensive at first.



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodeh6
If the E90 does come out with USA 3G bands 850/1700/1900, I wouldn't expect either T-Mobile or Cingular to pick it up. I think it is too much phone for them to handle. Buying unlocked/unbranded though will be quite expensive at first.

I agree...that's what i've been saying all along. Rcadden hit it on the head when he said it could be an "A" version and a "B" version. If that's the case then we've got the usual 9-12 month wait for our "B" version. And that doesnt guarantee that it will cover all of the US 3G bands.....of course I only care about cingulars.



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rcadden
actually, the state park I was in has great service. I've just grown up where camping is a no-electronics activity. Other than using my phone as a digital cam, it's honestly kinda nice to completely unplug for a few days.

so u are not worried about your gf during that period?



Posted by: jasaero

Seems the US model E90 would be under product code RA-7. So I guess we need to watch the FCC site for that code.

http://www.nokia-tuning.net/index.php?s=modeltype



Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:
Originally Posted by jasaero
Seems the US model E90 would be under product code RA-7. So I guess we need to watch the FCC site for that code.

http://www.nokia-tuning.net/index.php?s=modeltype

Nice find...that leads us closer an A and B model then. Or 1-2 like the E70. Either way it should spell uS3g possibly as the Euro model is already slated to be quadband. If that's the case then why produce 2 different versions with the same frequencies. I guess we can still hope and pray huh?



Posted by: jasaero

Quote:
Originally Posted by greenteeth
Nice find...that leads us closer an A and B model then. Or 1-2 like the E70. Either way it should spell uS3g possibly as the Euro model is already slated to be quadband. If that's the case then why produce 2 different versions with the same frequencies. I guess we can still hope and pray huh?


My guess is that a US version will depend on Cingular or T-Mobiles interest in the E90 as a 3G handset offering. Being quad band I am sure the US will get it, but just maybe not through any carriers. Also possible that T-Mob or Cingular could pick it up as a non-3g model. I kinda have a feeling though that the integral nature of SIP in S60 3rd ed. phones has Cingular and T-Mo afraid to offer them with 3g or wifi. Look at the E62(no wifi even though it was on the E61), lack of the N80 with 1900 CDMA, and slowness of the N75 to arrive. Can almost garuntee the Cingular version of the N75 is having the SIP stuff hidden or hacked out. Shoot, the Cingular SIM's actually lock out my ability to manually pick a network on my 9300!! I put in a T-Mo sim and the ability returns. Makes it a real pain when overseas and there are a couple networks in range, but maybe only one offers GPRS or EDGE. Tried to get Cingular to give me a different SIM that didn't lock this feature out and couldn't even get them to admit it did.



Posted by: CarlGalgano

My Cingular SIM does this as well (I believe just about ALL Cingular SIMs do this except some very old PacBell SIMs), however, when using my phone overseas, I was able to select networks. My guess is the SIM looks at the country code of the tower, and will display the correct tower alpha tag from the tower and DOES allow network selection.

Also, some phones will not honor the SIM card request to display "Cingular" all the time and will allow network selection. I had an iMate PDA2K about 2 years ago and it allowed network selection and displayed the actual tower alpha tag with my Cingular SIM.





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