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Official BlackBerry Pearl 8130 Pre-Release Thread
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Posted by: Stina

Will Verizon get the Blackberry Pearl? or something similiar?

Posted by: jboidc

Rumors are for an 8800-type device. RIMarkable is quoting rianlu on BlackBerryForums:

I was on a call recently with a rim rep. I work for a local carrier on the east coast don’t want to go to specific cuz they said it was mildly confidential but the device will be the 8830. verizon’s looking at may/june and sprint soon thereafter other carriers are looking at august. so far all the test devices have verizon software or atleast the ones we saw. the device will be trackball and will have a few new features some of which have been mentioned. it is quadband but will only be marketed as cdma in north america and gsm in europe and other markets. it will also have a micro sd card slot and has a full media player, music and video!!!!! it will have a built in spell checker 54 MB onbaord data and 16 MB ram. overall it looks pretty cool very similar to the 8800. best features imo are the next two: stereo bluetooth, and extended battery included when you buy. it has 33% more battery life than the standard in the 8703e so should be pretty good. thats pretty much all they told us on the call hope that answers questions and clears up some myths if you have any other questions i can research them and ask our rim rep and see what he says.

Posted by: kim.

Do you guys know if you can put non-blackberry type software on this phone? (for example, medical database programs etc) I've been thinking of getting the 6800 (Titan) or the samsung phone thats coming out because I can put palm or windows mobile aftermarket software on those.

Posted by: mrmaster

So nothing like the small size of the pearl? A friend just got the blackberry pearl and I just love it.

Posted by: jboidc

It will probably come to Verizon . . . someday.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

All rumors indicate Q4 for the Pearl and end of Q2 for the aforementioned 8830.

Posted by: kylekim

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeilwerthSX90R

All rumors indicate Q4 for the Pearl and end of Q2 for the aforementioned 8830.

If the 8830 has a camera (god forbid against the corporate folks ... but they don't need multimedia features and stereo bluetooth anyway), it might tide me over till a Pearl sized device is available from Verizon. Got to admit, after I got to play around with a Pearl a bit, I'm amazed how they packaged that device.

Posted by: Ride9650

Quote:

Originally Posted by kim.

Do you guys know if you can put non-blackberry type software on this phone? (for example, medical database programs etc) I've been thinking of getting the 6800 (Titan) or the samsung phone thats coming out because I can put palm or windows mobile aftermarket software on those.

Do you mean 3rd party software? Or software written for Palm and Windows.....Yes to the first, no to the second, though there might be emulators out there that will run some palm and windows stuff on a blackberry.

Posted by: Avocat

Hi, Today I was speaking with a Verizon store manager in Los Angeles and she said she saw the Blackberry Pearl at Verizon new products meeting. Even she told me to wait until after May to see if that would do what I want. She also said the 8800 model is coming about the same time. She was really focused upon the Pearl, I wonder why!

So I think it is going to be here by or in June. Though for me, the Pearl handset ear piece volume is not loud enough. Though the screen is amazing. In bright sunlight I can read anything! The little roller ball is cute, it even flashes. It is a good hybrid for a fun phone which can do email.

Posted by: kim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ride9650

Sorry I wasn't clear. Yes, I mean software for palm/windows based pdas.

Posted by: Ride9650

Quote:

Originally Posted by kim.

Sorry I wasn't clear. Yes, I mean software for palm/windows based pdas.

ya, if thats the case ur outta luck there, but like I said, there might be emulators that will run the software you need on a blackberry

Posted by: hotrodcorb

I just cant believe that there are no solid rumors out there about this phone. If it were really going to come out within the next year we would have heard something solid by now. I have been waiting for this phone since last september and I dont even have anything to tease me.

Posted by: hotch

any word on an 8300?

Posted by: ataq

after using the treo 650 since it came out on verizon i think its time for a change... i really like the bb pearl and was even considering changer providers just to get this amazing device.

Posted by: dbdynsty25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ataq

after using the treo 650 since it came out on verizon i think its time for a change... i really like the bb pearl and was even considering changer providers just to get this amazing device.

Says the RIM employee.

Posted by: EUROCARLOV

I was in my local Verizon store this evening and was just browsing... so I asked a sales rep (in a very general fashion) if any new PDA/Smartphone type devices were coming out in the next couple months. He told me that they're getting a new Audiovox smartphone, which is going to be a lime green-ish color... why I do not know...

Then, another sales rep (might have even been a manager), chimed in and said they were supposed to get the Blackberry Pearl in July. And possibly another Blackberry world phone device.

So, I can't confirm or deny any rumors, except report what I heard from a Verizon reps mouth.. all though, we know how the information can get misstated from telesales and customer service to the store reps.

Here's to hoping for a speedy release!!

Posted by: denzillion

Pearl is coming out with Verizon. It will be release at toward the end of summer b/c verizon does not want BB Pearl to be competing against BB Cyclone. That is from Business sales rep who has been accurate on other releases previously.

Posted by: dburks

This is what I like to hear

Posted by: HDTVGuru

It would be great if they launched them together - one is obviously targeted towards business users - and one towards consumers. Guess I'll just have to wait for the Pearl a while longer. . .

Posted by: kenstee

Quote:

Originally Posted by denzillion

Pearl is coming out with Verizon. It will be release at toward the end of summer b/c verizon does not want BB Pearl to be competing against BB Cyclone. That is from Business sales rep who has been accurate on other releases previously.

While this may be true, it just doesn't make sense. According to Verizon, the 8830 (Cyclone) is directed solely at the business/enterprise market not at consumers. So, the 8830 and Pearl don't really compete at all. The Pearl is a consumer-level BB.

Posted by: denzillion

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenstee

Don't shoot the messenger. I badly want Pearl as much as you guys...

Posted by: HDTVGuru

Not your fault - just seems that if they would launch the Pearl and Cyclone together - it might take some talk off of the iPhone.

Question - does/will the Pearl have GPS? If it does - any apps as good as VZ Nav? My "V" might just be a phone - but Navigator is my killer app.

TIA!

Posted by: kenstee

Quote:

Originally Posted by denzillion

Don't shoot the messenger. I badly want Pearl as much as you guys...

Sorry denzillion. Didn't mean it as a personal slam.

The VZ logic on this one just doesn't sound right. The 8830 and Pearl are aimed at two very different audiences. There must be some other issues.

Posted by: dburks

I cant wait untill this is released.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by dburks

I cant wait untill this is released.

anyone hear anything new if this is really happening next monday??????????

Posted by: PabloTX

There's usually a whole lot of leaked information regarding devices and release dates.

The lack of information on the Pearl seems to make it a long shot to be released now. I think a lot of the information on the Pearl was actually confusion about the 8830, which will be showing up this month.

Posted by: maxint

oh well... really had my hopes on on this one... and you are right... zero news except for the Merrill Lynch analyst report which listed the pearl being released back in early april........

http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Bla...cle-a_1855.html

Posted by: dburks

Any updated new on the Pearl for VZW. I will check with my business rep. to see if he has heard anything.

Posted by: someonexh

Quote:

Originally Posted by dburks

Any updated new on the Pearl for VZW. I will check with my business rep. to see if he has heard anything.

Well it's pretty definite about the 8830 coming out on the 14th for business folks... all listed here..

http://www.rim.com/news/press/2007/...4_2007-01.shtml

I would like to know if the BB Curve is going to be available for Verizon and when!?!

http://www.blackberrycurve.com/

Looks amazing.

Posted by: Vipermad

Why is it amazing? Initial evaluation of the size specs have it 7mm shorter, 6mm narrower and 1.5mm thicker than the 8800 series. Aside from that, for MY needs it is the same as the 8830. I am DOD so NO CAMERA is fine with me.

Just curious. Granted....I really have to delve into all the specs, but my initial comparison is ALWAYS size (no jokes, please!!! LOL!!). Then I move on from there knowing how big it is compared to my 8703.

It does have a slightly better "curb appeal" though.

Posted by: someonexh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipermad

Why is it amazing? Initial evaluation of the size specs have it 7mm shorter, 6mm narrower and 1.5mm thicker than the 8800 series. Aside from that, for MY needs it is the same as the 8830. I am DOD so NO CAMERA is fine with me.

Just curious. Granted....I really have to delve into all the specs, but my initial comparison is ALWAYS size (no jokes, please!!! LOL!!). Then I move on from there knowing how big it is compared to my 8703.

It does have a slightly better "curb appeal" though.

http://www.airtimemanager.co.uk/Bla...Berry_8300.aspx

check that out for your size issues

I could care less about the camera part.. it just seems more mainstream and not too business like.

Posted by: Vipermad

Sweet, THANKS! Nonetheless, size-wise it isn't much different from the 8800 series (that was my main point).

Now....do a side-by-side with the 8800, the 8300 and the 8100 and THEN one can seewhere the PEARL shines (with regard to size).

I think we agree, though....the 8300 is a more consumer-minded product than the 8800 (as a general statement).

I'm thinkingthe 8300 is a cross between the 8800 and the 8100, but I can't help but wonder who would want it and why. If, for example, I was with ATT.....why would I want the 8300 over the 8800? Very slight size difference, of course. Seems like an 8800 with a camera, but thats just me.

Personally, I'm keen in NEVER getting rid of my BB, I loved the 7130, I love the 8703....and I want the 8100 when VZW gets it only because it will fit MY PERSONAL usage, which is what its all about.

All of this is, lucky for BB lovers....ALL good news!

Thanks for the link, again!

Posted by: someonexh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipermad

Sweet, THANKS! Nonetheless, size-wise it isn't much different from the 8800 series (that was my main point).

Now....do a side-by-side with the 8800, the 8300 and the 8100 and THEN one can seewhere the PEARL shines (with regard to size).

Personally, I'm keen in NEVER getting rid of my BB, I loved the 7130, I love the 8703....and I want the 8100 when VZW gets it only because it will fit MY PERSONAL usage, which is what its all about.

All of this is, lucky for BB lovers....ALL good news!

Thanks for the link, again!

No problem I got that from another thread. My thing is the buttons seem spaced out better and it lik eyou said is more consumer minded. I have the Q right now I just want better email capability. I will end up buying the 8800 because I am an impatient sob along with impulsive so I hate waiting.

Posted by: jboidc

My guess is the 8300 won't be on VZW for a year.

Posted by: Wireless Buddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jboidc

My guess is the 8300 won't be on VZW for a year.

Don't know about the 8300 (Curve), but the 8830 World BlackBerry should be out very soon (Mid-May).

Posted by: jboidc

Yea. My reasoning falls along the lines of the Pearl isn't rumored for release until later this year, and the Pearl is a newer-style device; the 8300 is similar enough to the 8830 that I can't see its getting rushed out before the Pearl.

But I know next to nothing and am usually wrong, especially about things in the future (sometimes I can answer correctly about things that happened in the past).

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Who needs the Pearl when you can have the 8300 series? God, I am drooling over that thing. I can't wait for VZW to get it!

Posted by: someonexh

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Who needs the Pearl when you can have the 8300 series? God, I am drooling over that thing. I can't wait for VZW to get it!

Same I would choose that one over the 8830.. Supposedly there are two BB releases this month for Verizon. I know 8830 is one of them, not sure on the other. This is from a friend that works for Verizon (very reliable source).

Posted by: Vipermad

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Who needs the Pearl when you can have the 8300 series? God, I am drooling over that thing. I can't wait for VZW to get it!

Uh, anyone who is tired of carrying around a relatively large phone and has had (and used with great success) a SureType BB before. SureType never gave me a problem with my 7130.....I just strayed from the Crackberry to a regular phone, and when I realized the error of my ways the 8703 was out, new, and my impulses got the better of me! LOL!!!

The 8300 is basically the same size and offers nothing (for MY needs) the 8703 doesn't have.

I know several things in this world.....it is round, I will ALWAYS have a BB, and I hate taxes!

I love the small size of the Pearl.

Having said that.....IF I were to choose between the 8300 and the 8830, I would say the 8300 would be my choice. As I have already said....they are ALL great BB's....something to fit most everyone's needs!

Posted by: someonexh

qwerty > suretype

The 8300 is like the pearl just better.. problem is, I doubt Verizon is going to get either.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

My guess would be that VZW hasn't released the Pearl (and might not) because they don't see the return on investment from a consumer BB and they don't care about giving us choices.

But, is it possible that there are technical issues getting CDMA into that form factor? The 8830 is slightly bigger than the 8800 (although this is probably because of the dual radios). But I'm trying to think if there are very small phone for CDMA. The KRZR is similar in size to the Pearl but doesn't have a PDA processor or onboard memory.

Also, doesn't CDMA (& EV-DO) require more power than GSM? The Pearl isn't 3G so maybe the power requirements are such that RIM hasn't figured out how to achieve good battery life in that form factor.

Does anyone have any technical insight on this front? I just find it odd that since the Pearl is so popular, VZW hasn't picked it up yet, while the 8800 made the transition to CDMA pretty quickly.

Posted by: maxint

i guess the Merrill Lynch report written back in April about RIM was wrong. They claimed the Pearl would be released on May 7th for Verizon.

Guess what, it's may 7 and no Pearl!

Posted by: dolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by someonexh

Could you imagine a shocker of an announcement at WES? A 83xx for VZW...oye vaye that would be so f'n great!

That's the first time I've heard that verizon was dropping two blackberries this month.

Anyone else hear anything remotely close to that?

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: werl

see this link as posted on rimarkable.com:

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/0...13_id.html?.v=1

Posted by: someonexh

Quote:

Originally Posted by werl

see this link as posted on rimarkable.com:

http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/0...13_id.html?.v=1

damn... hmmmm I would really love to have the 8300 "papa bear"

*for the lazy*
• Impact Positive. The BlackBerry curve will be available at AT&T and other carriers (Rogers, T-Mobile, Vodafone) in the Spring (impact Q1/Q2 – inline with our outlook). Pricing is expected at U$249 - $299 with subsidy, vs. the 8800 at U$299 and the Pearl at U$199 at AT&T. We expect healthy sell-in/sell-through (possible impact Q1, end May) that should contribute to subscriber additions, expanding RIM’s position in the consumer market.

• Other Pending Products/Networks. RIM is also expected to launch an EV-DO version of the consumer Pearl (Suretype keypad, trackball) that has new features (e.g. updated camera, media software), expected Q2 on Verizon, for which we expect strong pre-orders and promotion (against the iPhone).

Posted by: Vipermad

Quote:

Originally Posted by someonexh

• Other Pending Products/Networks. RIM is also expected to launch an EV-DO version of the consumer Pearl (Suretype keypad, trackball) that has new features (e.g. updated camera, media software), expected Q2 on Verizon.....

Patience is NOT one of my better qualities.....heck, I wouldn't even consider it ONE of my qualities at all!!

Q2......seems like EONS! LOL!

Posted by: mrmaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vipermad

Patience is NOT one of my better qualities.....heck, I wouldn't even consider it ONE of my qualities at all!!

Q2......seems like EONS! LOL!

Q2 is only april,may and june. That isn't too bad. As long as it is out close to June 25th that will be perfect for me.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by someonexh

damn... hmmmm I would really love to have the 8300 "papa bear"

*for the lazy*
• Other Pending Products/Networks. RIM is also expected to launch an EV-DO version of the consumer Pearl (Suretype keypad, trackball) that has new features (e.g. updated camera, media software), expected Q2 on Verizon, for which we expect strong pre-orders and promotion (against the iPhone).

RIM may also launch an 8800 based on EV-DO. Bell, Telus are also expected to launch these products, timing TBA (Sprint unknown).

I'm sorry to say that I think this is just idle uninformed speculation. I have no inside knowledge so hopefully someone with more info on VZW release dates can chime in, but I just don't see this happening.

The author of this is clueless. "RIM may also launch an 8800 based on EV-DO." It's already been announced, VZW is advertising it everywhere, and the release date has been made public. Clearly, he hasn't done that much research on this or he would know that already.

I also find it unlikely that VZW could be planning to release anything in Q2 that hasn't been the subject of some well-informed rumors. There have been no rumors about a CDMA Pearl in testing or anything else.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeilwerthSX90R

i feel like we all want to believe that he pearl is coming out just so badly@!!!! it would make sense however to try and compete with the iphone....

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

i feel like we all want to believe that he pearl is coming out just so badly@!!!! it would make sense however to try and compete with the iphone....

I'm with you on that. If and when VZW releases the Pearl I will buy it. I'm not trying to dismiss anyone's interest in the Pearl, I really want it also, I'm just trying to be realistic. Financial analysts frequently publish baseless rumors as "research." The HoFo community usually has more information than they do.

Posted by: PabloTX

I'm sick of getting excited about a phone that another carrier has had for 6 months to a year. GSM keeps pulling me harder and harder.

Posted by: vzwkid

IT IS COMING!! I promise you. It has passed almost all verizon testing....its near....just not complete yet. By end of may beginnig june I promise you'll be able to buy a verizon pearl.

Posted by: vrs626

Quote:

Originally Posted by vzwkid

IT IS COMING!! I promise you. It has passed almost all verizon testing....its near....just not complete yet. By end of may beginnig june I promise you'll be able to buy a verizon pearl.

No offense but I'll believe it when I see it. Hard to believe that if it was actually coming out in that time frame more info wouldn't have been leaked. There were pics of the 8830 floating around the web months ago so I doubt that Verizon and RIM would be able to keep a pending Pearl a total secret, especially if it has passed testing and is close to being available.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by vzwkid

IT IS COMING!! I promise you. It has passed almost all verizon testing....its near....just not complete yet. By end of may beginnig june I promise you'll be able to buy a verizon pearl.

vzwkid-

I would love love love to believe this! but where are you getting your information?

Posted by: maxint

another article.........

http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1351

Posted by: macflauaus

I would buy either the Pearl or the 8300. I've been looking for a PDA phone and want a BlackBerry, but none of them have cameras. Me being 15, I love to take pictures. Also, I wish they would release a $20-25 data plan for the Pearl. I would buy that in a heartbeat!

Posted by: mrmaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by macflauaus

I would buy either the Pearl or the 8300. I've been looking for a PDA phone and want a BlackBerry, but none of them have cameras. Me being 15, I love to take pictures. Also, I wish they would release a $20-25 data plan for the Pearl. I would buy that in a heartbeat!

even if cellphones existed(not the monster car ones) when i was 15 I can assure you the parents wouldn't be shelling out $80 a month on me nor $200 plus for the phone.

Posted by: macflauaus

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmaster

even if cellphones existed(not the monster car ones) when i was 15 I can assure you the parents wouldn't be shelling out $80 a month on me nor $200 plus for the phone.

I'd pay for the data plan and the phone itself. Plus a possible texting plan, so they are just paying the main service +2 lines.

Posted by: dolo

vzwkid -

If you are the same vzwkid that tips off engadget et al, I believe.

Interesting post that popped up on bbcool: http://www.blackberrycool.com/2007/05/08/004378/

I've pasted the info below. But an updated pearl would be just plain awesome. 3.5" headphone, 2mp cam, a2dp...that would be nice...

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"The second rumor we’ve heard refers to how advanced the device will be. All reports seem to indicate that Pearl 2.0 will be a 9xxx device, with it most likely being a 9100. Now, this doesn’t mean that we won’t see minor feature improvements on the 8100 (like an 8130 upgrade with maybe a 2.0 Mpx camera, for example), but the next “true” Pearl will roll 9000 stylez.

This means a couple of things. The 9xxx Pearl will be significantly thinner than the current model, if we can believe Boy Genius (which we can). It also means that, for the first time in awhile, we’ll get a resolution upgrade to the screen. Jibi told us that the 9900 device will feature a resolution of 384×288, which means that it’s not the Pearl (the screen ratio doesn’t match up with the current Pearl or any of the other x1xx BlackBerrys, so I’d be hard pressed to believe that they’d change it now), but does make it very likely that the 9100 device would receive a screen bump as well (especially if they’re looking to significantly upgrade the Pearl’s multimedia capabilities).

That’s all I have for now, but it does send tingles down this Pearl user’s spine. Maybe I won’t have to switch to an 8300 after all — that is, if the 9100 can make it out by the end of the year (not likely). "

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: someonexh

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

another article.........

http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1351

How reliable is that site? I got this from a link at the bottom!!

RIMarkable Exclusive: Verizon Announces 3 New BlackBerry Devices
I take every negative thing that I have ever said about Verizon’s BlackBerry release schedule back. As a matter of fact, I feel kind of foolish for being so negative seeing how the nations second largest carrier has just announced 3 new BlackBerry devices coming out over the next few weeks.

Two of the devices, the BlackBerry Pearl, and the BlackBerry 8830e, our already out on the GSM carriers, however, Verizon will be the first carrier to offer a BlackBerry 8300 device. The 8330e will have a digital camera and GPS, however, will not have Wi-Fi. It will also be the first BlackBerry able to record video.

Thanks to RIMarkable reader Sidd Finch for leaking us this information…

Written by Robb Dunewood on April 1st, 2007 with 28 comments.
Read more articles on BlackBerry and Rumor Mill and BlackBerry Pearl and 8800 and 8300.

/Edit...

Disregard. Sick little monkies that was an effing April Fools joke on that site.. hence the Sidd Finch

*cries*

Posted by: Vipermad

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

I've pasted the info below. But an updated pearl would be just plain awesome. 3.5" headphone, 2mp cam, a2dp...that would be nice...

All well and good...if it was posted in the ATT Forum. No mention of anything VZW. Yep....probably is an upgraded Pearl coming, but not to VZW (at least not in the 9xxx series). We'll be lucky to get an updated 81xx!

And.....I'd be HAPPY with that!!

Posted by: dolo

Agreed,

I'd be happy with just that as well.

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: Stina

I guess I started an interesting thread....lol
I guess we are all going to have to wait. I love the phone...played with a t-mobile one the other day. Do u think the browser will be as fast?

Posted by: ataq

definitely faster with evdo, i stopped holding my breath for the pearl... pretty much for the 8830 too. having dual mode features and a media player doesnt excite me that much for some odd reason. don't know why, just wanted to share. go bb!

Posted by: Rama767

Saw this on Barron's Tech Trader Blog

From AMTech's Richard Sanderson
<QUOTE>
On the consumer/retail side of things, the “Curve looks like another hit product, with much better multimedia capabilities than the Pearl,” says Sanderson. Other models will follow this year, including the 8830, and a version of the Pearl to be carried by Sprint (S), and multimedia may become a bigger part of the Blackberry. Starting with the Curve, the Blackberry’s secret weapon in playback of media files could be its battery life, says Sanderson. “Management said the Curve will play three full length movies without completely draining the battery. Long battery life has always been important to cell phone and smartphone users and will likely be important to converged multimedia devices.”

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/
</QUOTE>
Has anybody heard or seen a Sprint version of the Pearl? I would think it would be the same version as what would be released on Verizon with all the features crippled.

Posted by: dolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stina

I guess I started an interesting thread....lol
I guess we are all going to have to wait. I love the phone...played with a t-mobile one the other day. Do u think the browser will be as fast?

I've used a 8700c on cingular for awhile before moving to a vzw 8703e. The speeds on web pages/browsing is negligable. It's tough to really notice the EVDO from handheld browsing. You'll notice the difference when tethering.

Tmobile/Cingular BB's do an amazing job rendering and loading pages. This is why no 3G on the curve doesn't concern me so much.

I encourage you all to hop into a tmo/cing store and load up a page while loading one up on your sprint/vzw 8703.

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

This is a big drawback of 8830. For whatever reason (probably processor speed) BBs do a bad job rendering pages. Cingular's 8800 is much slower rendering pages than my EV-DO Treo as is the 8703. I know BBs are used primarily for corporate email but would it be that hard to update the web browsing abilities?

Posted by: vrs626

Quote:

IT IS COMING!! I promise you. It has passed almost all verizon testing....its near....just not complete yet. By end of may beginnig june I promise you'll be able to buy a verizon pearl.

vzwkid....anymore info about a possible verizon pearl?

Posted by: Vipermad

Heck yeah!! To HECK with that 8830 POS!!! Gimmee the da** Pearl already!!!

Posted by: jivemastert

Last I heard it was available for corporate purchase but not to the consumer yet. It was supposedly made available on the 7th, but will be out to the public on the 24th or somewhere abouts. This is unconfirmed info though.

Does anyone have more info about the 8830? Is that going to have a camera?

Posted by: Vipermad

Quote:

Originally Posted by jivemastert

Does anyone have more info about the 8830? Is that going to have a camera?

Tons of threads already active....please click one of them for the details you look for.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by jivemastert

Last I heard it was available for corporate purchase but not to the consumer yet. It was supposedly made available on the 7th, but will be out to the public on the 24th or somewhere abouts. This is unconfirmed info though.

Does anyone have more info about the 8830? Is that going to have a camera?

you saying the pearl???? i don't think it's out for corporate... and still have seen no rumors that it may be out on the 24th......

Posted by: k40jeep

vzwkid is right...the pearl has passed almost all vzw testing and will be coming out sooner then later. I would be betting juneish.....(yea I know its not a word.)

Posted by: hotrodcorb

where are you guys getting your info?????? I cant even see how it would be released by june. this might be the best kept secret by verizon EVER if that were true. Dont get me wrong. if they do release it by then then i will be very happy and around 300 dollars in the hole.

Posted by: HDTVGuru

Maybe they mean 2008! I hope not. . . .

Posted by: Vipermad

I'm with hotrod! THAT is the phone I might consider ADDING another line just so I can get the darn thing sooner!!

Posted by: dolo

vzwkid, k40jeep,

Any insight - please share the knowledge and keep the group in the loop.

I haven't been this restless over a device since the Siemens s55/56...

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: k40jeep

vzwkid and I are friends. We have the same knowledge cause we work together. Vzwkid doesn't get on here much pretty much only when I am banned so we can keep up but for the most part I do the posting.

Our knowledge comes from "higher ups" Sorry I can't be more specific I like my job. I'll tell you this. As far as verizon is concerned they are planning and hoping for june launch. We all know stuff happens and it could be pushed back. So far it has passed almost all testing. Thats all I have at the moment. I would give more if I had it. So recap, its passed almost all testing and plan for june launch. Again, stuff happens and all it would need to do is fail one test and it would be pushed back and since it is not done fully with testing...yeah. Will update when more info is availible.

Posted by: PabloTX

Forget the Pearl, give me the Curve.

Posted by: fsy_23

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

vzwkid and I are friends. We have the same knowledge cause we work together. Vzwkid doesn't get on here much pretty much only when I am banned so we can keep up but for the most part I do the posting.

Our knowledge comes from "higher ups" Sorry I can't be more specific I like my job. I'll tell you this. As far as verizon is concerned they are planning and hoping for june launch. We all know stuff happens and it could be pushed back. So far it has passed almost all testing. Thats all I have at the moment. I would give more if I had it. So recap, its passed almost all testing and plan for june launch. Again, stuff happens and all it would need to do is fail one test and it would be pushed back and since it is not done fully with testing...yeah. Will update when more info is availible.

Thanks! Will it be the new Pearl, with 2mpixel cam, etc.?

Posted by: k40jeep

ya know I was just wondering that myself a few days ago....sadly I can't seem to find anybody in the higher ups that knows specifically (or they just don't care to say...) so i personally haven't figured that out yet...I'll get back to you on it if I can figure it out.

Posted by: blinking22

is the 8830 bb going to come out with verizon as well? I hear it's coming out with cingular by july

Posted by: cuttme2pieces

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinking22

is the 8830 bb going to come out with verizon as well? I hear it's coming out with cingular by july

the 8830 is the CDMA phone in the states. cingular will not be releasing it. it is out on verizon now and will be more widely available on the 28th. i know you're a new user but there are many big threads about this.

Posted by: blinking22

is the 8830 bb going to come out with verizon as well? I hear it's coming out with cingular by july

Posted by: HDTVGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinking22

is the 8830 bb going to come out with verizon as well? I hear it's coming out with cingular by july

The 8830 came out this past Monday

Posted by: k40jeep

ok the last four posts....WOW...just WOW. Blinking22 go sit in the corner and think about what you have said.

Posted by: dolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

k40jeep,

Thanks for the feedback. As you stated - your higher ups are your contacts and don't risk your livelihood.

That being said your track record and credibility (vzwkid included) keeps us out of the loop up to speed. Thus sharing the info is much appreciated.

May be the biggest June of all of wireless history.

If the vzw version of the pearl has a 3.5" headphone jack that would be just plain silly!!!

2mp less of an issue (subjective of course.)

Thanks again for the update k40.

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: k40jeep

well i have stated it before is ppl question my track record...like I care. I can only report what I hear and like I have said as well....things happen and stuff changes so dates I post can only be taken for what they are worth at the time.

I tried to get more details in the pearl today from my "sources" *cough cough* higher ups. Couldn't get nothin. I honestly think I know everything they know as of now and they just got nothin left to say. It seems like its on track for late june release as is the i760. The 6800 may have been delayed in a last minute switch to windows mobile 6.0 (the last one is not fact but mere rumor). The iPhone does NOT have the higher ups worried at all (and let me tell you I deal with customers on a daily basis, the higher ups, THEY SHOULD BE worried. But that's COMPLETELY another story and article I could write about. Anyways, june COULD be a amaizng month for verizon launches. It worries me a bit as the days come closer though that I am not hearing more then I have heard so far.....

That's all for now. Will post back later.

Posted by: hotrodcorb

If you guys are right about it launching june-ish, then I would be very surprised. I would also be very happy. I am not doubting that you have heard this info. Only doubting the time frame that is being told to you. The only reason i doubt the june time frame is that we have heard about the samsung i760, htc 6800, and htc libra. Yet there are still no release dates for those. We havent heard a thing that is legit about the pearl. So, it just wouldnt be logical for it to be released before them. But, if it were, i would be very happy. It seems like sooooo many devices are on the horizon, yet none of them are being released!!!!!

Posted by: dolo

k40jeep -

Thanks for the update.

For those of you that are skeptical - as with any product, things happen, rollouts become botched, and testing/QA always throws a curve ball.

That being said - I completely trust k40jeep/vzwkid. I've been around here for a very long time.

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: CharleyBrown

ive heard the pearl is looking at a September release, and no word on i760 release date yet..

Posted by: dolo

From a business standpoint, I could see vzw waiting till June to unleash a plethora of handsets.

If you think about it - vzw cares less about the "consumer/prosumer" and more about the business user. That being said - the iPhone is a very consumer/prosumer device and I feel maaany vzw customers will jump ship.

I hope vzw recognizes this and really tees up a slew of handsets. Also, I hope the iPhone will trigger the recognition that cutting edge/consumer handsets are also quite critical.

On that note - here's a thread from pinstack about an 8303 (cdma curve variant): http://blackberryforums.pinstack.co...zon_8303_a.html

It would be amazing if they dumped the pearl and picked up the curve....

Take it light - speculation is speculation.

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: mrmaster

I think there is a bunch of BS in that forum post and I think people are still confusing models and carriers. You wouldn't be able to physically handle a BB Curve for VZW without leaked info.

Do I believe the Pearl is coming and soon? Yes.

Posted by: k40jeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

k40jeep -

Thanks for the update.

For those of you that are skeptical - as with any product, things happen, rollouts become botched, and testing/QA always throws a curve ball.

That being said - I completely trust k40jeep/vzwkid. I've been around here for a very long time.

Regards,
dolo

Dolo- Thanks so very much! Honestly what you just said makes everything I say worthwhile. Yeah ppl get all crabby and pissy when I say something and it turns out wrong but its not wrong things just happen and pushes dates back. Besides I am just trying to get the news to the ppl anyway I can. I really appreciate the trust you have in my news. I seroiusly appreciate what you said. Vzwkid just went on vacation which means I have to keep my mouth clean as to not get banned...lol cause he wont be here to log in for a week. Anyways, I have been tryin hard to get some dirt on the pearl or any of the other devices and no body is sayin nothin anymore.....I think they are starting to worry about the iPhone which *lol* I would be. I'll be one of the first five in Iowa to have one I gaurentee it.

Anyways will update with more if I can get it.

Posted by: dolo

k40 -

Here's the deal. Anyone that has experience with products from a consumer or business or service standpoint - should know that executing on timelines are tough.

Point is - don't get discouraged. It's all good. Keep sharing the news. Keep sharing the insight. Unless you can personally control a situation - don't let anyone here slow you down.

Take it light!

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: vrs626

k40 and vzwkid - any new/additional info about the pearl? Thanks for the info that you guys have provided so far.

Posted by: Squeeg

There is rumor something similar to the pearl will be coming out, wont be called the pearl though that is GSM. GSM is so inferior to CDMA I didnt jump on the pearl myself, something about an inferior network and a "small keyboard" kinda defeats the whole purpuse of a BB. I prefer the 8703 right now for the BB series.

Posted by: dolo

Squeeg,

Can you give some background around the rumor (not asking for who said, what's your source, etc. etc.) - but any and all details around the rumor.

Someone posted in the vzw forums (iphone competitor) that they received a mailing that said 8300 "coming soon" - but I believe it's a typo really listing the 8830.

Any insight you can add would be great.

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: k40jeep

hey guys.....sorry to report nothing new on anyfront. The newest I have is that we are "probably" that was not my choice of word but what ppl have been using, I'd say maybe getting a lg prada variant. That is verizons "iphone response". Also they will release the i760 and 6800 sooner then later though no buzz has been made. As for the pearl haven't heard anything new so I can only assume they are still on for the juneish launch but having said that I haven't really heard anything new which scares me a bit about a upcoming launch...i.e there may be no upcoming launch so to speak. Also I PERSONALLY am getting prepared for iphone....*drool* ok sorry bout that. Anyways I'm posting remotely as I am on vacation. vzwkid is back from vacation but like I said early doesn't really post unless I am banned for bull arse reasoning I'd like to say but whatev. So yea. If I hear somethign I'll let ya know but nothing as of now. I have played with the 8830 and was quite impressed. The voice dialing was certaintly a nice feature to have on a blackberry and it worked flawlessly. It was a nice device. I'd carry it if it only had a dang camera.

Off to chilax on my vacation will check in later.

As always.

Posted by: Squeeg

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

Squeeg,

Can you give some background around the rumor (not asking for who said, what's your source, etc. etc.) - but any and all details around the rumor.

Someone posted in the vzw forums (iphone competitor) that they received a mailing that said 8300 "coming soon" - but I believe it's a typo really listing the 8830.

Any insight you can add would be great.

Regards,
dolo

I work at verizon, and do tier 3 support for the pda's, aircards, and BB's. So its the talk around the call center. Dont know where the rumor started really. I dont think it will come, even if it did I am sure verizon wouldnt call it the pearl. I'll keep yeah posted. Im not allowed to really release any info even if I knew it. lame huh? I am only here to help, not representing verizon at all.

Posted by: k40jeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeeg

That's a load of crap. You can say anything you want they aren't gonna find out its you. I have already divulged anything I know and I am still sellin vzw. Your wrong too, the pearl WILL be coming to vzw. Funny, tier 3 support...lol I've spoken to them. I know more then them. LOL! Sad times. Anyways, we'll be SURE to be holding our breath for more of your reliable information seeing as you are gonna "keep us posted"

Posted by: matthewc1

who thinks new phones will be out around july 5th thru 8th. new phones have come out around this time for last few years.

Posted by: k40jeep

i think they will come out in the end of june. The current rebates run out in mid june so this would only make sense.

Posted by: ataq

right, no better way than to start off with a clean slate

Posted by: funnymoney

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

hey guys.....sorry to report nothing new on anyfront. The newest I have is that we are "probably" that was not my choice of word but what ppl have been using, I'd say maybe getting a lg prada variant. That is verizons "iphone response". Also they will release the i760 and 6800 sooner then later though no buzz has been made.

I spoke with a VZW Corp Store CSR yesterday who is very interested in getting the i760. He told me the Samsung rep had been by showing everyone the i760 and other Samsung phones within the last three weeks and told them the i760 would be released but that all talk of the date was now forbidden. Does this reported scenario seem credible to you? Do the reps come around to the stores this way? I am curious because the VZW CSR told me he was not going to wait around to see when the i760 was going to be released and was going to replace his 6700 (which he claimed was a very poor device) with an enV for now. I am interested in the i760 but would rather have the 6800 if it is ever available.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

i think they will come out in the end of june. The current rebates run out in mid june so this would only make sense.

It seems to me that the E815 (which i still love) and some other phones were released on either 2 or 3 July two years ago. Is the 4 July weekend a time that VZW has a history of releasing new phones?

Thanks k40jeep for your many attempts to help us get at least decent scuttlebut if gouge is not available.

Posted by: Squeeg

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

Go on with your badself! I work for verizon, you just sell products from verizon, you really need to research your products a little more. We get our training on products that are being released and are given information from my employer of new things coming out. I dont see any PEARL on the release sheet! I am here to help people with their questions and your just bashing me. Again, go back to your vacation I think you need one.

Posted by: k40jeep

LMAO oh boy big bad tier 3 support boy here to help ppl. Anyone that has ever called in to "support" knows they don't know much. I am glad you haven't seen anything on the pearl. Congrats. So basically what you are saying is WHEN it does release your gonna look like a moron? Is that BASICALLY what your saying? Yeah thought so. PS- I wouldn't work for verizon if you paid me six figures. They are retarded in the way they demean there customer base and such. I DO sell verizon yes, doesn't mean I like the company. I just feel they have the best coverage and nothing more. Sadly nothing more. Its rather pathetic. Go back to your cubicle in your call center and "support" ppl. LOL!

Posted by: k40jeep

Oh why are you carrying tmobile if you WORK for verizon? That makes no sense. Lets also not forget that you are just a noob on your high horse big bad self cause you are in a cubicle and "work for verizon". Wow man you got me beat. Take your 53 posts and yeah I'll let you finish the sentence. Btw, if you look at ppl like dolo, they have mentioned how my track record speaks for itself. When I say something is coming out I am right. Now dates get skewed so that is not always correct but I know my stuff and when I say its coming well I haven't been wrong but once so suck them lemons. Ppl know when I say something I am good for it. Have fun at work with the flourecent lights.

Posted by: macflauaus

Okay, let's calm the flaming war down. Anybody else predict that VZW_KID will be coming back soon?

Posted by: kupe

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

... LMAO ... bad ... moron? ... retarded ... Go back ... LOL! ... noob ... high horse ... bad self ... Wow ... let you finish ... suck

Sounds like your vacation is going very well Jeep.

Need another Mai Tai?

So, I heard from this guy, he lives in a corn field in Iowa and he doesn't actually work for Verizon, but he does post on HOFO and claims to know a lot about Verizon stuff. So, this guy, he says maybe some day Verizon will have the Pearl. Was this guy right?

Posted by: geekgrl

aw.. can't we all just get along. i thought vzwkid and k40 worked for vzw.. lol oh as old news at the pearl is, i use vzw and i really hope vzw gets the pearl. and blackberry and a camera.. it would be my dream come true.

Posted by: Gibralter

So it seems we are all in agreement (for the most part) that the Pearl is coming to Verizon. I remember reading an article on Phone Arena about the Pearl coming to Verizon back on April 04. Of course, the article said it would be out May 7th......

Posted by: vzwkid

wow...i stray from the forums and k40jeep starts a flame war. LOL! Yea it is true k40jeep and I work together. No we don't work for a vzw corporate store. We work t the 3rd largest premier verizon dealer in the midwest. Not a kiosk in a mall. The store we work for can do everything including new every two and such as a corporte store. Now that is cleared up, as far as our sources are concerned, the pearl SHOULD be coming to verizon by the end of june maybe july.

Kupe- Funny ha ha. You know I sell verizon. You know k40jeep and I are in the "corn fields" of iowa. Smart man. Kupe you know k40jeeps and my record. It speaks for itself. We usually don't let down. If I know something that comes up I will definately let it out. Last I heard it had gone through almost all verizon testing. I'll tell k40jeep to calm down. He just got rubbed the wrong way by squeeg. I think he feels like squeeg is challenging him. K40's been around on hofo longer then the new guy and the new guy is challenging what k40 says. PERSONALLY I don't have much respect for call center guys because I normally know mroe then them. I just go through the process to get a fru ya know....play along. Anyways k40 just got back in town today off long weekend. (He got bored I think. lol).

Remember just cause I don't post as much as k40 doens't mean that I am not surfing the board and reading posts. I heard the call geekgrl and kupe. Have a good night all.

Posted by: k40jeep

*sigh* man i am tired. Great weekend off. Yea I got a little bored there for a few minutes. LOL! Anyways thanks kid, appreciate the tidbit. Guesss you maybe a little more popular then me....lol! They call for you. Anways, i'll see you at work on wednesday.

Thanks for the thoughtful suggestion kupe. I took a vodka collins and it was glorious.

Posted by: mattag29

Does anyone have any info on a possible Curve release on Verizon?

Posted by: fractured

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattag29

Does anyone have any info on a possible Curve release on Verizon?

Considering that the device hasn't been released by any carrier yet, though it should drop on at&t any minute now, I would say not anytime soon.

Posted by: dec0y

if the pearl is due to be released in about a month then this must be the best kept secret in the history of verizon.

Posted by: k40jeep

yeah I don't see a device such as the curve for at least 8 monthes on verizon.

As for the secret about the pearl on verizon. I dont think it is a secret that verizon would want such a device but think about how long there testing process is. Ya know. Yea I don't know. I haven't heard anything for a while. I want to believe it is still coming this next month. Who knows anymore.

Posted by: ataq

oh so true, the only thing that keeps me wondering is that when the 8100 came out, RIM followed up with the 8800 relatively fast. so if the 8830 is out now, then maybe in their sleeves will show up soon, ahh well

Posted by: k40jeep

one hopes this is true. Though rimm's history with cdma devices isn't quite as quick a turn around as its gsm history.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

I love all the "I heard this, I heard that". That's why I refuse to post info anymore unless I see things posted that are just purely ridiculous.

The June release of VZW's Pearl variant is highly unlikely. It's not even on their Q2 roadmap. If they do release it, it will be the first time I've ever seen VZW INTENTIONALLY push UP a release date to surprise customers.

Posted by: Brianp48093

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

I love all the "I heard this, I heard that". That's why I refuse to post info anymore unless I see things posted that are just purely ridiculous.

The June release of VZW's Pearl variant is highly unlikely. It's not even on their Q2 roadmap. If they do release it, it will be the first time I've ever seen VZW INTENTIONALLY push UP a release date to surprise customers.

Well said! At least someone else knows the real deal

Posted by: kupe

Quote:

Originally Posted by vzwkid

Kupe you know k40jeeps and my record. It speaks for itself. We usually don't let down.

Agreed. No "missed calls" on the part of you two in my experience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

Thanks for the thoughtful suggestion kupe. I took a vodka collins and it was glorious.

Things often look better through beer goggles. Keep on postin'!

Posted by: k40jeep

well we did have a missed call in the lg forum a few weeks back but we do what we can.

Yes the vodka collins did help. Then I went fishing. lol. Caught me a walleye and a northern. Anyways back to corn fields and real world today. *sigh*

Posted by: dolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

LP - Long Time!!

What's poppin?

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: ataq

i just quit waiting and moved on...

Posted by: maxint

it's now june......... any news???????

Posted by: k40jeep

suddenly I feel it got pushed back..new rebates are in and they go through june 30th and no pearl. I would honestly just say screw it and move on. I am so sick of verizon and there games.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

suddenly I feel it got pushed back..new rebates are in and they go through june 30th and no pearl. I would honestly just say screw it and move on. I am so sick of verizon and there games.

Probably because it was never supposed to launch in June.

Like I posted before, it's not on their 2nd quarter roadmap at all.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

LP - Long Time!!

What's poppin?

Regards,
dolo

Same old. Lurking more than posting.

Posted by: k40jeep

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Probably because it was never supposed to launch in June.

Like I posted before, it's not on their 2nd quarter roadmap at all.

you know I have a pretty good track record....so back off.

Posted by: dolo

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Same old. Lurking more than posting.

Same LP.

I've been device hungry which has pulled my activity levels back up.

I haven't been this restless since the treo 600 dropped.

Anything you waiting to get your paws on in particular?

Regards,
dolo

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolo

Well, I don't have any interest in iPhones or iPhone varients (Prada, M, etc) to be honest. An EVDO Rev A Blackberry Curve is the closest thing to a dream come true for me, in terms or devices, lol. I just wish they would come out with the CDMA version a little more quickly.

Posted by: vrs626

Quote:

LP- You think that there is any chance of Verizon releasing this phone sometime soon? I know that Verizon is super slow with releasing phones as they dont even have a Pearl yet, but they did release the 8830 much faster than I thought they would, so maybe there is a reason to hope?

Posted by: jboidc

With the BlackBerry this is a RIM issue, more so than a Verizon issue.

Posted by: k40jeep

actually its both of there faults... A combination of the two.

Posted by: Shemmy

Cingular and T-Mo also seem to be more of a consumer market than VZW. As much as I'd love an EVDO Pearl (I miss the size of the one I used to have with T-Mo), and as much as I wish VZW didn't cripple their phones/offered more selection, I can't fault them for sticking with a business model that works in catering their data devices to Corporate America.

Posted by: k40jeep

they are coming out with new data plans that are more consumer friendly this fall.....

This I know to be fact. Cant say when other then fall but they are coming. Don't know pricing or such yet.

Posted by: Squeeg

Quote:

Originally Posted by jboidc

With the BlackBerry this is a RIM issue, more so than a Verizon issue.

exactly. everyone is pointing at verizon when RIM doesnt even have it as a CDMA device. once again, its not going to happen. I even called RIM inquiring abouit a CDMA pearl, the guy didnt even know what I was talking about. I referenced this post in this forum and he laughed.

Posted by: mrmaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeeg

Did you really call someone at RIM? Why would they tell you something that would be considered confidential. Plus, chances are you talked to a CS rep and what CS rep in ANY company really knows much about future products.

Without a doubt we will see more RIM products (pearl/curve) on VZW. we are just frustrated because we don't know the timeframe.

Persoanlly after deliberating on whether to switch to Cingular I am going to stick with VZW for the simple fact that I won't have service in most locales that I would be going to when I am on vacation.

Posted by: jboidc

I think what Squeeq meant is that a CDMA version of the Pearl would not be a Verizon exclusive (forever, presumably), and no other CDMA carriers are currently offering a Pearl nor is there much chatter in the usual places about one's release.

Posted by: rockinsage

Quote:

Originally Posted by k40jeep

they are coming out with new data plans that are more consumer friendly this fall.....

This I know to be fact. Cant say when other then fall but they are coming. Don't know pricing or such yet.

k40jeep, this may be premature, but do you know if someone currently on an unlimited data plan will be able to switch to one of the new plans without penalty?

Posted by: vzwkid

k40 is banned (dang mods) but i work with him. I'll chime in.

Yes too premature to tell. We don't know anything on the topic (as of yet) other then sometime this fall there will be new "consumer friendly" data plans....

Posted by: mrmaster

4th time in the corporate store by work. 4th time I've walked out frustrated. guess I spoke too soon in my last post. Don't know if I am going to wait after all seeing as how it will cost me just a little more to jump ship.

Posted by: PabloTX

Like what? A 5Gb plan?

Oh yeah, the already offer that, only they call it "unlimited".

Posted by: mattag29

So from what I have heard we are looking at Q4 release now on the Pearl and possible late September for a "Curve" like device on Verizon? Has anyone else heard this?

Posted by: vrs626

Engadget is saying quarter 4 for an updated Pearl. Nothing on a possible "Curve" like device.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ns-busy-summer/

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs626

Engadget is saying quarter 4 for an updated Pearl. Nothing on a possible "Curve" like device.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ns-busy-summer/

Am I missing something? The roadmap clearly has the Libra coming mid-July yet Engadget says late June. Are the leaked dates consumer/in-store launches meaning that internet or B2B sales would be in late June?

Posted by: vrs626

This was posted on Engadget also....

http://i13.tinypic.com/61xvsap.jpg

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs626

Engadget is saying quarter 4 for an updated Pearl. Nothing on a possible "Curve" like device.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ns-busy-summer/

Please, Michael Caputo doesn't know what he's talking about

Posted by: corys00

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Please, Michael Caputo doesn't know what he's talking about

Posted by: mattag29

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/upgrades...aled-267555.php

This was posted today. Looks like the pearl wont be coming until late this year. As much as I don't want to go to At&t, looks like I may be jumping the Verizon ship for the IPHONE. I am a mac user anyway and it will sync better.

Posted by: Squeeg

still doesnt even say it is verizon, that could be sprint.

Posted by: maxint

any news pearl coming to verizon? any buzz has become very quiet.......

Posted by: klooney

Any news on the pearl, from what I've seen it looks like just sprint but its hard to tell. Need something new to obsess over besides the 6800 and i760!

Posted by: clxa38

a bit off topic, but what's the chances of RIM making a blackberry with built in wifi? ATT is about to have one, where's Verizon's version of the phone at?

Posted by: klooney

The blackberry pearl 2 is supposed to have wifi and apparently thats the one thats coming to sprint. . . and hopefully verizon.

Posted by: maxint

someone on phonescoop claims releas on 8/16........ i just seem to think that's impossible....... blackberrycool.com says sometime in october..............

Posted by: mattag29

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

someone on phonescoop claims releas on 8/16........ i just seem to think that's impossible....... blackberrycool.com says sometime in october..............

Can you give the link to where on phonescoop you saw this? Thank you.

Posted by: mattag29

http://cdmausa.blogspot.com/2007/08...on-verizon.html

This spreadsheet has the Blackberry 8130 on it but no release date set, so who knows.

Posted by: klooney

That was originally posted on this forum in the lg green env thread!

Posted by: DaWg1

Blackberry Pearl 2 info: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...ry-8820-slides/

Posted by: clxa38

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWg1

Blackberry Pearl 2 info: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...ry-8820-slides/

i c.... so cdma version with gps and gsm version with wifi. i don't know if i like that idea or not.... i rather have BOTH

Posted by: mush10

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i c.... so cdma version with gps and gsm version with wifi. i don't know if i like that idea or not.... i rather have BOTH

I read somewhere it is too small for too many chips.

Posted by: klooney

Kinda lame that there is no wifi for cdma. Would much rather have the wifi over the gps. Oh well!!

Posted by: Patmos

Talking to a friend of mine at VZW local store. She has been in meetings all day off site. She just called and told me they were getting the Pearl. She said they didn't give a date but they were definitely getting it. She knows I want the XV6800 and told me that it was coming the end of the month. She also mentioned the LG Prada they were getting but no date on it either. She was wanting me to wait on the Pearl so I could be on the Blackberry messenger feature, which I didnt know existed, because she has a Blackberry.
This is the honest truth. I know there is a lot of crap on here but she has no reason to lie. Neither do I.

Posted by: klooney

The big question is when, we already know the 8130 is coming to verizon!

Posted by: MegaMan X

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...lides/#comments

The BlackBerry Pearl 2, or 8130 news, however, contain a couple of nice tidbits. The big news is that there are, in fact, CDMA and GSM variants planned. The devices will be very similar, though the CDMA version will have GPS and no Wi-Fi, while the EDGE-capable GSM variant will sport Wi-Fi but no GPS.

Posted by: klooney

That was posted about 5 posts previous. Thanks for the information AGAIN!!

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Originally Posted by MegaMan X

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...lides/#comments

The BlackBerry Pearl 2, or 8130 news, however, contain a couple of nice tidbits. The big news is that there are, in fact, CDMA and GSM variants planned. The devices will be very similar, though the CDMA version will have GPS and no Wi-Fi, while the EDGE-capable GSM variant will sport Wi-Fi but no GPS.

Posted by: Gabatta

SWEET. My NE2 hits October 2. The timing should be pretty close.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Verizon should be getting the 8130 within the next 90 days. They'll be getting the 8330 too, but not until end of Q1, beginning of Q2. There is no exact date yet, but Sprint will get the 8130 BEFORE VZW.

Posted by: wc632

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Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Verizon should be getting the 8130 within the next 90 days. They'll be getting the 8330 too, but not until end of Q1, beginning of Q2. There is no exact date yet, but Sprint will get the 8130 BEFORE VZW.

Thank you sir

8130 will be mine the day it comes out.

Posted by: c|v|c

whats the 8130? Wifi capable?

Posted by: liquidplatinum

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Originally Posted by c|v|c

whats the 8130? Wifi capable?

No, the CDMA Pearls will be GPS capable. I doubt we'll see WiFi on CDMA Pearls because of EVDO. Streaming video and such will be difficult on EDGE that's why WiFi is logical on their networks.

Considering with VZW you HAVE TO get a data plan, GPS seems much more logical as well.

Posted by: 0mie

I guess its time to add fuel to the fire again since its going down now

Take it for what you want. Its a part of a 10MB file. Info will be released from time to time

Posted by: klooney

Thanks for the post!

Posted by: kristina.kozak

Wow, 48 slides....

Posted by: 0mie

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Originally Posted by kristina.kozak

Wow, 48 slides....

Yes, a lot of good info and new 3 MP phone and much much more.

Posted by: mattag29

Is there a way to see more of the slides? Or No?

Posted by: 0mie

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Originally Posted by mattag29

Is there a way to see more of the slides? Or No?

Yes, the whole ppt will be posted when I can convert it into a PDF.

Posted by: whsbuss

Any slides on Verizon releasing the Curve??

Posted by: donkey11

I like the way Pearl looks but not interested in getting data plans.

Would I be able to get Pearl with regular minutes plan when it comes out?

Thanks.

Posted by: DKNYC

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...zon-no-problem/

Posted by: kaiz9800

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Originally Posted by donkey11

I like the way Pearl looks but not interested in getting data plans.

Would I be able to get Pearl with regular minutes plan when it comes out?

Thanks.

i 2nd that i want to know also!!!

Posted by: Rama767

One of the stickies in the forum says that all smartphones/pda require data plans.

Posted by: Patmos

Verizon Slacking again!!! GRRRR!!!!!

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ndt-next-month/

Posted by: kinderco

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Originally Posted by Rama767

One of the stickies in the forum says that all smartphones/pda require data plans.

GOTTA love it when ppl read...

Posted by: dxm113

I'm not sure if this has been posted here yet, but I thought it was relevant:

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-97...l?tag=nefd.only

Posted by: RedSoxFan

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Originally Posted by Patmos

Verizon Slacking again!!! GRRRR!!!!!

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/...ndt-next-month/

If Verizon doesn't come out with the new Curve by December, I may be switching to AT&T. I've been with Verizon for 7 years and would like to stay with them because of the great coverage and EVDO......BUT, I have had my 8703e for greater than 2 years and I am in need of an upgrade badly. I don't want to have to buy another 8703 when the upgraded Curve is out there. I've tried other devices in the past and I will never go back to a Windows device nor do I want to use the "sure type" on the Pearl.

I just can't believe that Verizon won't bring the Curve to it's customers. That device is in such high demand with other carriers. What's the hold up??

Posted by: Patmos

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan

Absolutely Ridiculous is what it is. The pda selection is a joke with them.
I haven't even heard that the curve is coming to verizon at all. Only the Pearl.
And who knows when that will hit.

Posted by: 0mie

Enjoy

http://www.filefactory.com/file/327aa6/

Posted by: nedry

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Originally Posted by RedSoxFan

EVDO......BUT, I have had my 8703e for greater than 2 years and I am in need of an upgrade badly.

Impossible this phone hasn't been out that long.

Posted by: damnyooneek2

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Originally Posted by Patmos

Absolutely Ridiculous is what it is. The pda selection is a joke with them.
I haven't even heard that the curve is coming to verizon at all. Only the Pearl.
And who knows when that will hit.

people tend to believe what they want to believe. when there's no hope they make up some. on the other hand the iphone is working great and i use my curve on the weekends

Posted by: Gibralter

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Originally Posted by Rama767

One of the stickies in the forum says that all smartphones/pda require data plans.

Not wanting to start up another side discussion on this thread but you actually don't need a data plan. My boss has his 8703 with out data. On the phone it says "Data Blocked". Been like that for several months, no data charges and phone works fine. He called CS and they turned it off. I think you have to get the right person cuz i have called for customers to have it blocked and data and tech support claim you have to have it. Not exactly true.

Posted by: NC*Nextel

rumors of the pearl2 hitting vzw in november... all it seems to be is a pearl with a 2mp camera... vzw is such a joke...

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rum...n-november.html

Posted by: liquidplatinum

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Originally Posted by NC*Nextel

rumors of the pearl2 hitting vzw in november... all it seems to be is a pearl with a 2mp camera... vzw is such a joke...

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rum...n-november.html

They should have skipped the Pearl and just released a CDMA Curve instead.

They are going to aim mass market with the Pearl though, not just corporate.

Posted by: RedSoxFan

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Originally Posted by nedry

Impossible this phone hasn't been out that long.

Sorry.....2 years. Bottom line, I have the device and I am due for my upgrade in a few months.

Just came from the Verizon store and asked the tech that was on duty if there was any info on the Curve coming to Verizon. He looked on his computer and said that there was nothing coming up with the Curve in the near future.

Looks like I will be going to AT&T.

Posted by: Vatothe0

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Stores are the absolute worst place to ask about new phones.

There is a pearl coming, no info on a curve.

Posted by: fumblerooski

I am a current 700w user & can't wait to jettison this POS. I am curious about the internet & media capabilities of the Pearl 2 b/c I love the form factor. Is anyone on here a Treo to BB convert? How is the switch from WM? I am also curious to see if any former Treo users have adjusted to Suretype. Thanks!

Edit: I just realized...no Slingplayer mobile for BB. That may be the kiss of death. I guess it's the Q9 or maybe the Libra.

Posted by: hotrodcorb

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Originally Posted by Tre-i-e-i-o

I am a current 700w user & can't wait to jettison this POS. I am curious about the internet & media capabilities of the Pearl 2 b/c I love the form factor. Is anyone on here a Treo to BB convert? How is the switch from WM? I am also curious to see if any former Treo users have adjusted to Suretype. Thanks!

Edit: I just realized...no Slingplayer mobile for BB. That may be the kiss of death. I guess it's the Q9 or maybe the Libra.

i thought you would like this then

http://www.rimarkable.com/archives/1457