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Official BlackBerry Pearl 8130 Pre-Release Thread
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Posted by: mick4394

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Originally Posted by Gabatta

We will know for sure soon enough I suppose.

We have known from the start. This thing never had wifi.

Posted by: ferniesp

I sure hope they didn't push the date back! I was looking online right now and nothing.

Posted by: wooster019

If I remember right (and I could be totally off here), but I thought that the Juke didn't appear on the site until mid-day on the date is was released. Maybe that's just when I noticed it, but I thought I remember seeing it for the first time then.

Could pre-order still happen later today? Or is all hope now lost since it isn't up there?

Posted by: maxint

also no word on new data packages....... i say thing is coming out....

Posted by: FAUguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin byrne

Newest dates just released.

BlackBerry® Pearl smartphone (8130) : 10/26 pre-order; 11/8 launch.
BlackBerry® Pearl smartphone (8130) in Pink : Jan. 08
BlackBerry® 8830 (World Edition) in Red : Jan. 08
LG Venus™ in Pink : Pending pre-order decision; 12/11 launch
LG Venus™ in Black : 11/8 pre-order; 11/19 launch
LG Voyager™ (10000) : 11/8 pre-order; 11/21 launch
LG VX8350 (Red) : 11/21
LG Chocolate™ - Blue Ice (VX8550) : 11/21
VZW Vogue : Jan. 08

Any update to the PreOrder dates?
Today is the 26th, and the Pearl is M.I.A.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAUguy

Any update to the PreOrder dates?
Today is the 26th, and the Pearl is M.I.A.

I hope they didn't push it back to the 8th, with the rest of the pack.

Posted by: machpost

Knowing Verizon, they probably realized that this device is way too cool for them to actually release, so they've dropped it at the last minute

Posted by: Patmos

I just had a chat with vzw and she said "she had no information regarding the release of this phone but she understood my concerns". Whatever. This phone is gonna be awesome if we ever get it. Expecially with VZ Nav on it!

Posted by: GadgetGeek

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAUguy

Any update to the PreOrder dates?
Today is the 26th, and the Pearl is M.I.A.

Maybe no Pre-Order after all, just 11/08 launch?

Posted by: Monkeyshack

anyone get one?

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

anyone get one?

Do you really think, if someone did, they'd wait to be asked about it before rubbing it in our faces?

So far, the Oct. 26 preorder rumor isn't panning out.

Posted by: Monkeyshack

I don't know... I'm not them.

I really surprised that our info could be that far off.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

I don't know... I'm not them.

I really surprised that our info could be that far off.

It's a pretty big disappointment. If it's just the presale that's pushed back, that doesn't really bother me so much. I just hope the release date predictions aren't too far off.

Posted by: fredyoon

Still no news on the pre release scheduled for today.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredyoon

Still no news on the pre release scheduled for today.

No. In the past hour, since the last person asked, there is no word on the pre-sale.

Posted by: Gabatta

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

We have known from the start. This thing never had wifi.

We? There have been many things which people have supposedly "known"...like the pre-order date...

I personally agree with you about the spec. However the Pearl is not out, and there fore this thread is largely fluff and speculation for now. No need for some posters to yell at others about certian pieces of speculation and not others. If people want to discuss wifi, it does not bother me more any of the other BS speculation in the thread.

Posted by: C DM

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Originally Posted by Gabatta

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...7&postcount=592

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabatta

I don't recall yelling at anyone.

BS speculation is what leads to threads getting closed and people getting bans. If you'll notice in this thread, a mod seems to agree that the wifi dreams are not worth discussing.

There's a difference between speculation and ignorance of facts. People asking questions about the wifi situation are simply ignoring the facts that are known about this phone.

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

anyone get one?

Per my RIM rep.. my demo unit will be here next week

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

Per my RIM rep.. my demo unit will be here next week

That's good to hear. How early do you, generally, get a phone before it's released?

Posted by: C DM

I wonder if they might just wait until the new BB (BIS) data plans are actually out before they put up the Pearl for sale.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade DM

I wonder if they might just wait until the new BB (BIS) data plans are actually out before they put up the Pearl for sale.

I've been wondering that myself. The next date I'll be watching for is the first.

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

That's good to hear. How early do you, generally, get a phone before it's released?

I got my T-Mobile curve about a week and a half or so before its release...

I think VZW sent me the demo 8830 the day it was released in stores... BUT that was probably because I asked them to send me one to check out a little late...

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabatta

What part of

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAUguy

Enough of the Wi-Fi debate.

do you not understand?

FAUguy is a Mod in case you didn't know.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

I've been wondering that myself. The next date I'll be watching for is the first.

Assuming that there will really be changes to the BB (BIS) data plans. I've also seen references that in case of these plans it might not happen until the 2nd or 3rd of November, but I can't recall for sure.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade DM

The second would make a little more sense than the third. It seems like it would be unusual to make such a change over a weekend.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

The second would make a little more sense than the third. It seems like it would be unusual to make such a change over a weekend.

Actually, a lot of changes take place on Sundays. New promos, rate plan changes.

Posted by: Monkeyshack

CSR said that it is called the BlackBerry Storm now...

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

CSR said that it is called the BlackBerry Storm now...

what is called the storm?????????????????????????

Posted by: Monkeyshack

the Pearl 2 is being called the BlackBerry Storm now...

Posted by: mbpyro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade DM

I wonder if they might just wait until the new BB (BIS) data plans are actually out before they put up the Pearl for sale.

I think this makes the most sense, since I believe you have to pick the data plan when you order the phone.

Posted by: 213ninja

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

the Pearl 2 is being called the BlackBerry Storm now...

i don't know jack....but i doubt that. google it.

Posted by: Monkeyshack

Quote:

Originally Posted by 213ninja

i don't know jack....but i doubt that. google it.

I'm only relaying what the CSR said to me... call yourself.

Posted by: C DM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

I'm only relaying what the CSR said to me... call yourself.

Unfortunately in many cases (although I'm not necessarily saying this is one of them), especially when it comes to information that's not really publicly available (yet) going by what a CSR says is like going by what a magic 8-ball will say.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Actually, a lot of changes take place on Sundays. New promos, rate plan changes.

I've heard this in the past, but haven't really paid attention, so I'll take your word for it. But, it is unusual for a phone to be released on a Sunday.

Frankly, I don't care, though. As long as it's out in the next couple of weeks, I'll be happy. Any longer, and I may just be tempted by something else.

Posted by: fumblerooski

You just insulted Magic 8 balls everywhere.

Posted by: Monkeyshack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade DM

going by what a CSR says is like going by what a magic 8-ball will say.

You don't have to rely on the magic 8-ball. Call.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

You don't have to rely on the magic 8-ball. Call.

What I am saying is that by calling you are usually no better off than just asking the Magic 8-Ball, if that--and you won't really know whether or not you got the right information until the actual information becomes public and accessible anyway.

Posted by: WebBull

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyshack

the Pearl 2 is being called the BlackBerry Storm now...

Umm, Verizon's own website calls it the Pearl. The CSR was messing with you.

Posted by: Null_Query

I decided to mess around and ask one of those people that are on the Verizon Chat thing and here was the conversation:

A Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with Crystall.
Crystall.: Hello thank you for visiting our chat service. How may I assist you with your order today?You: My verizon business rep informed me last week that i would be able to pre-order the new Blackberry Pearl today, but you guys arent showing the phone anywhere on your website or through the business channels..........
You: When will we be able to order this
Crystall.: We don't have the phone offered at this time.
Crystall.: You would need to check inthe next week or two to order that pda.
You: Nov. 1st or 8th....... any specific date i should be looking for?
Crystall.: We haven't been given a specific date.

You: Hey have you heard anything about the new Blackberry Storm?
Crystal: No, I have not.

HAHA sorry i just had to do that.......

Posted by: i need help

i called verizon to see what the csr would say when i asked about the pearl. He said he has nothing on it but thinks it will be out at thanksgiving.

so who knows......ill stick with the magic 8-ball....

Posted by: Patmos

I was in my verizon store and my good friend that works there went to the back and came out and whispered to me it was available online the 8th. I know you hear everything on here but that is what she said anyway. I have no doubt she read it from the info she had but I guess we will just have to see if it was accurate.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Mark will probably have it before me, but I'll actually have the Pearl on Nov 2. I'll give a review when I get it to see how I like it.

Posted by: Monkeyshack

I may be crazy but a search of "Blackberry Storm" with quotes pulls up the Pearl 2 link..

http://search.vzw.com/?market=86336...kberry+storm%22

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Mark will probably have it before me...

I wouldn't count on that... My reps told me I'll have one next week... BUT didn't say if that would be beginning or end of the week...

Its in their best interest to get me one as soon as possible (I must validate in our environment in order to offer to my users)... SO they do get them to me as quickly as they can....

But sometimes they can run it over and drop it off to me.. other times they have to ship it into me...

My AT&T rep had Rim drop ship me an 8820... it took less than 3 days from when I made the request to be on my desk... However, that request was made a day or two after the release.

Posted by: ferniesp

Well, I saw the I760 today and did I walk away impressed! From the pictures, that thing looks huge and ugly. I put it side by side with my maxx with extended battery and it was not much bigger. Very nice build to it. I was going to buy it but the girl changed her mind at the last minute saying the system would not allow her to process the order.....I was bummed. Now that I know the Pearl will have no wifi, I am rethinking everything. What is a sure thing for me today will be different tommorow. My point to this post is that I find it very hard to justify buying a Pearl over an I760. I'll do some more research.

Posted by: CanAm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferniesp

Well, I saw the I760 today and did I walk away impressed! From the pictures, that thing looks huge and ugly. I put it side by side with my maxx with extended battery and it was not much bigger. Very nice build to it. I was going to buy it but the girl changed her mind at the last minute saying the system would not allow her to process the order.....I was bummed. Now that I know the Pearl will have no wifi, I am rethinking everything. What is a sure thing for me today will be different tommorow. My point to this post is that I find it very hard to justify buying a Pearl over an I760. I'll do some more research.

Ferniesp, I am torn between the i760 and the Pearl myself, and the WiFi could be the reason I lean towards the i760. Then again, maybe the price will drop on the i760 when I'm ready to purchase, or something else comes out that I like better than the i760.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patmos

I was in my verizon store and my good friend that works there went to the back and came out and whispered to me it was available online the 8th. I know you hear everything on here but that is what she said anyway. I have no doubt she read it from the info she had but I guess we will just have to see if it was accurate.

I don't think any of us will be surprised if it comes out on the eighth. That's the date that was floated from the start. So far, the surprising thing is that it hasn't gone up for presale yet, as we were all expecting.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by 9Dodge19

For me, it all depends on this whole data pricing thing. If nothing changes, I'll lean towards a Windows device over the Pearl, or possibly even go back to my original thoughts of getting the Voyager. If the BIS price drop happens, as rumored, I'll go with the Pearl.

I'd really like the freedom of a Windows Mobile device, but the forty-five bucks a month really bothers me.

Posted by: jseah

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

I wonder if there are going to be any presales at all...after all, the Juke never was offered as a presale.

Posted by: Nthach

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

0mie said nothing might change, or VZW is just using a ploy. The local corp store said it was going to be $30, but if it still stays @$45, I'm going to drop down to the $25 10mb plan and watch my usage.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by jseah

I wonder if there are going to be any presales at all...after all, the Juke never was offered as a presale.

The Juke was available for preorder, maybe that's a better word for it.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nthach

Yes, I saw that. But, it seems like there's far too much buzz around this for there to be nothing to it.

Posted by: Nthach

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

Yes, I saw that. But, it seems like there's far too much buzz around this for there to be nothing to it.

yea, even a corp kiosk rep said they will change!

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

Yes, I saw that. But, it seems like there's far too much buzz around this for there to be nothing to it.

I have an official document in front of me stating that it's going to $29.99. The document states BlackBerry BIS plans as the only change, not BES or PDA plans.

Posted by: pattwak

$29.99 Data for blackberry would totally make me get a BB again. honestly the pricepoint is the reason I don't have a BB anymore. /em crosses fingers and hopes opacity is correct!!!

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by pattwak

$29.99 Data for blackberry would totally make me get a BB again. honestly the pricepoint is the reason I don't have a BB anymore. /em crosses fingers and hopes opacity is correct!!!

Starts November 1st. Believe me, I know how you feel. I'll be getting the BlackBerry Pearl now.

Posted by: pattwak

Were'nt we supposed to be able to pre-order the pearl like yesterday or today or something?

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

I have an official document in front of me stating that it's going to $29.99. The document states BlackBerry BIS plans as the only change, not BES or PDA plans.

That's good enough for me.

I'm in.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by pattwak

Were'nt we supposed to be able to pre-order the pearl like yesterday or today or something?

Originally, yesterday is what we all thought. Apparently, that information was inaccurate. So, we wait.

Posted by: BlackBerry

One thing I don't have with me is the release dates. I can't remember which thread it was, but can someone please repost the dates? I seem to remember a pre-order date, a business channel launch date, an online launch date, and an in store launch date.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

One thing I don't have with me is the release dates. I can't remember which thread it was, but can someone please repost the dates? I seem to remember a pre-order date, a business channel launch date, an online launch date, and an in store launch date.

The original dates we had went like this:

Pre-order - Oct. 26

Business Release - Nov. 1

Online Release - Nov. 8

In Store - Not sure

Obviously, we're already off to a bad start, so the accuracy of these dates is up in the air.

Posted by: Nthach

Quote:

Originally Posted by pattwak

$29.99 Data for blackberry would totally make me get a BB again. honestly the pricepoint is the reason I don't have a BB anymore. /em crosses fingers and hopes opacity is correct!!!

If the BIS plan doesn't change, I'll guess I'll have to tote an Chocolate and iPaq with me daily...

Posted by: Nthach

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

I have an official document in front of me stating that it's going to $29.99. The document states BlackBerry BIS plans as the only change, not BES or PDA plans.

bla bla YGPM.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

Honestly, I never heard any [internal] information regarding a Sept 26 pre-order (or any other pre-order date) for the Pearl. The release dates should still be right though.

Posted by: wooster019

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nthach

If the BIS plan doesn't change, I'll guess I'll have to tote an Chocolate and iPaq with me daily...

I know exactly how you feel...I'm in pretty much the same boat. If the price doesn't drop I'll forgo the Pearl, which I really want, and get a Chocolate and some PDA too. I don't really want to go back to two devices though. Keeping my fingers crossed.

Posted by: Nthach

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooster019

I'm pretty sure the plan prices will drop, I already had 2 corp reps tell me.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Make that 2.5 if you count former reps.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Since the launch is pending, it's time to create a pre-release thread. Pictures of the device can be seen here:

BlackBerry Pearl 8130
and here...
BlackBerry Pearl 8130

The BlackBerry BIS data plan will be $29.99 (effective November 1st), allowing "prosumers" to use the BlackBerry features at a competitive cost.

Any additional information? Please share with us!

Posted by: ushneb

Hi, I'm not usually interested in Blackberry's but I was wondering what the preorder date was for the Pearl. I read it in the Voyager thread that it was supposed to be on the 26th for preorder but nothing's changed on Verizon's site.

Does anyone know what the deal is?

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by ushneb

Hi, I'm not usually interested in Blackberry's but I was wondering what the preorder date was for the Pearl. I read it in the Voyager thread that it was supposed to be on the 26th for preorder but nothing's changed on Verizon's site.

Does anyone know what the deal is?

We're still trying to figure that one out; several corporate reps that post here regularly say that they weren't even aware of a pre-order date.

Posted by: Orlando_65

Any word on Full Retail pricing?

Posted by: JJiG

Any idea on the price? I really want the 8830.. But I like the pearl too.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJiG

Any idea on the price? I really want the 8830.. But I like the pearl too.

Many are saying $150-$250 with two year pricing, but nothing concrete yet.

Posted by: Null_Query

Wirelessly posted (Blackberry8830: BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)

Yeah I would really like to know the full retail pricing for the Pearl as well, since I will have to sell my 8830 in order to get this....

Posted by: Nthach

To ditch my free 8830 I got from a winback or keep the 8830 and buy the 8130, that is the question.

Posted by: kevin byrne

Ok folks, new dates.
BlackBerry® Pearl smartphone (8130) : 11-1 pre-order; 11/8 launch.
BlackBerry® Pearl smartphone (8130) in Pink : 1-28
BlackBerry® 8830 (World Edition) in Red : 1-28
LG Venus™ in Pink : Pending pre-order decision; 12/11 launch
LG Venus™ in Black : 11/8 pre-order; 11/19 launch
LG Voyager™ (10000) : 11/8 pre-order; 11/21 launch
LG VX8350 (Red) : 11/21
LG Chocolate™ - Blue Ice (VX8550) : 11/21
Samsung Flipshot (u900) : December
Samsung Gleam in Purple : Late Jan
VZW Vogue : Jan. 08

Posted by: 0mie

New pre-order date is Nov.1 after its been released to B2B customers.

Posted by: dbdynsty25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

The BlackBerry BIS data plan will be $29.99 (effective November 1st), allowing "prosumers" to use the BlackBerry features at a competitive cost.

Is that price going to hold true for the 8830 as well? Can current data plan blackberry users get that price starting Nov.1?

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbdynsty25

Is that price going to hold true for the 8830 as well? Can current data plan blackberry users get that price starting Nov.1?

Yes, all BIS BB users will have the same $29.99 pricing, if you are on the old plan you have to call and get it changed.

BES BB users will still have the pay the old data price.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin byrne

Ok folks, new dates.
BlackBerry® Pearl smartphone (8130) : 11-1 pre-order; 11/8 launch.
BlackBerry® Pearl smartphone (8130) in Pink : 1-28
BlackBerry® 8830 (World Edition) in Red : 1-28
LG Venus™ in Pink : Pending pre-order decision; 12/11 launch
LG Venus™ in Black : 11/8 pre-order; 11/19 launch
LG Voyager™ (10000) : 11/8 pre-order; 11/21 launch
LG VX8350 (Red) : 11/21
LG Chocolate™ - Blue Ice (VX8550) : 11/21
Samsung Flipshot (u900) : December
Samsung Gleam in Purple : Late Jan
VZW Vogue : Jan. 08

Good deal. Same dates I have/had. B2B customers still be able to order on Nov 1 though from what I have heard nothing has changed.

Posted by: mbpyro

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

Yes, all BIS BB users will have the same $29.99 pricing, if you are on the old plan you have to call and get it changed.

BES BB users will still have the pay the old data price.

Will there be a combo plan option that combines voice, like the current data plans?

Posted by: mbpyro

I assume that the 11/8 launch is for both online & stores? I know in the past, they have started selling phones online sometimes a week or so before they show up in stores.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpyro

I assume that the 11/8 launch is for both online & stores? I know in the past, they have started selling phones online sometimes a week or so before they show up in stores.

Right. The 8th is the retail release date. I haven't heard about a seperate online release date....

Posted by: jdougal

Can someone lead me to a explanation of the difference between BES and BIS?

I am using this for personal email, calendar, web browsing. Which would I fall under?

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdougal

Can someone lead me to a explanation of the difference between BES and BIS?

I am using this for personal email, calendar, web browsing. Which would I fall under?

BES is if your company uses its own exchange server and your company IT dept manages BB stuff.

BIS is for your average joe user.

So you would fall in the BIS category.

Thats not the full explanation, but its in simple easy to understand words lol.

Posted by: FAUguy

Thread changed to "Official BlackBerry Pearl 8130 Pre-Release Thread"

Posted by: dbdynsty25

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

Yes, all BIS BB users will have the same $29.99 pricing, if you are on the old plan you have to call and get it changed.

BES BB users will still have the pay the old data price.

Good to hear. Thanks. Guess I'm calling Verizon on Friday. Thanks for the tip.

Posted by: Centsless

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

So what is the difference in cost and use between the BB BIS plan, and my current voice + data plan?

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Quote:

Originally Posted by Centsless

So what is the difference in cost and use between the BB BIS plan, and my current voice + data plan?

If you have a Moto Q (like your profile says...) the BIS plan replaces your current PDA data plan...

the BIS/BES plan cover your data useage, internet browsing, email, etc...

Posted by: maxint

still boggles my mind why they wouldn't just do a pre-order??? even if it is delayed...

Posted by: mattag29

Just got off the phone with Customer service and was told that it should be available for Pre-Order online. He said that it started the 26th. Checked and it was still not there. Interesting that there system says that it is available for pre-order? Strange?

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattag29

Just got off the phone with Customer service and was told that it should be available for Pre-Order online. He said that it started the 26th. Checked and it was still not there. Interesting that there system says that it is available for pre-order? Strange?

did you try pre-ordering it on the phone instead of online????

Posted by: curtisdr

My b2b rep I just emailed said he didn't see the Pearl in their system, so he couldn't tell me the retail or corporate cost.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Fantastic...I'm beginning to lose confidence in these release dates.

Posted by: j2sheck

I started out really excited for this phone when I first read it was coming to Verizon. My contract's been up for a few months now and I just keep holding out hope, but now with all the inconsistency in release dates, will this thing ever see the light of day? We're already in November this week, and not an official peep from Verizon.

The further along this thing is pushed, the less I want it, considering it's a phone that was released for T-Mobile nearly 14 months ago (despite the 8130's addition of video recording and GPS [crippled?]). Best case scenario, the phone comes out Nov. 8, and in two years when my contract's up again, it will technically be more than a 3 year old phone! Does this make anyone else uneasy, or are you all just good and used to Verizon being technologically behind the times?

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by j2sheck

I started out really excited for this phone when I first read it was coming to Verizon. My contract's been up for a few months now and I just keep holding out hope, but now with all the inconsistency in release dates, will this thing ever see the light of day? We're already in November this week, and not an official peep from Verizon.

The further along this thing is pushed, the less I want it, considering it's a phone that was released for T-Mobile nearly 14 months ago (despite the 8130's addition of video recording and GPS [crippled?]). Best case scenario, the phone comes out Nov. 8, and in two years when my contract's up again, it will technically be more than a 3 year old phone! Does this make anyone else uneasy, or are you all just good and used to Verizon being technologically behind the times?

It does have a 2 mp camera..... Same processor???

Posted by: cellmet

Quote:

The further along this thing is pushed, the less I want it, considering it's a phone that was released for T-Mobile nearly 14 months ago (despite the 8130's addition of video recording and GPS [crippled?]). Best case scenario, the phone comes out Nov. 8, and in two years when my contract's up again, it will technically be more than a 3 year old phone! Does this make anyone else uneasy, or are you all just good and used to Verizon being technologically behind the times?

This is really a totally different Pearl than the one that was released on T-Mobile and AT & T. It does add video recording, GPS (I don't think it's been proven that the GPS is crippled yet, someone correct me if I'm wrong), a slight redesign of the keyboard and best of all, EVDO data speeds, which blows edge away. I really wouldn't say that the 8130 is techologically behind the times; basically just the form factor that is a year old.

Posted by: jseah

From what I understand, the GPS is not crippled. It does come pre-loaded with VZ Navigator though.

Posted by: hamdude

Am I right in thinking that if we pre-order the 8130, the phone will be shipped out on the 7th via next day shipping, so that we get it on the 8th?

Posted by: TheHedonist

Quote:

Originally Posted by jseah

From what I understand, the GPS is not crippled. It does come pre-loaded with VZ Navigator though.

Someone with a pre-release unit posted that GPS was crippled on it. It also didn't have VZNav on it yet, however.

Most likely, the GPS is crippled.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamdude

Am I right in thinking that if we pre-order the 8130, the phone will be shipped out on the 7th via next day shipping, so that we get it on the 8th?

You may want to ask that question in the Juke thread. They're the only Verizon users who've ever actually experienced a Verizon preorder.

Posted by: jsprewell

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from reading this (and the other forum) about the $30 BIS plan, it seems that the $30 is in addition to the voice plan? That would put it at ~$10 cheaper than the current $80 plan with 450min/unlim data/etc.

Also, what would the plan likely include (or is it just replacing)? I know I am looking at the least amount of min (450) because 90% of the people I know and/or do business with have Verizon. I also want unlimited data, the IN text plan and tethering. At current plans/rates it would have the $80 Voice/BB plan + $15 IN Text + $15 Tethering. Are any of these going to be combined into the $30 plan?

Posted by: cellfonescrewer

The new plans seem to be up for my B2B site. 10MB for $20, Unlimited for $24 and unlimited for $35.

Posted by: HDTVGuru

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellfonescrewer

The new plans seem to be up for my B2B site. 10MB for $20, Unlimited for $24 and unlimited for $35.

I'm assuming that 24 is not unlimited?

Posted by: Humpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTVGuru

I'm assuming that 24 is not unlimited?

BIS unlimited: $30
BES unlimited: $45
... minus discounts, if any

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHedonist

Someone with a pre-release unit posted that GPS was crippled on it. It also didn't have VZNav on it yet, however.

Most likely, the GPS is crippled.

The release version of the VZW Pearl will have the ability to have/use/purchase VZNav.

The 8830 will also be getting VZNav via RIM OS update...

What is not yet known... Will other apps (like BB Maps, Google Maps, etc) be able to access the GPS in the Verizon 8830 and 8130?

So, while VZNav will be there... the GPS might still turn out to be 1/2 crippled

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsprewell

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from reading this (and the other forum) about the $30 BIS plan, it seems that the $30 is in addition to the voice plan? That would put it at ~$10 cheaper than the current $80 plan with 450min/unlim data/etc.

That's correct--the plan will be $34.99 for those planning to use it just for data (no voice).

BIS with voice plan: $29.99
BIS without voice plan: $34.99

Posted by: nittanyjack

It is 3 days from B2B and Preorder and we still don't know a price yet for the 8130? Whats the secret? I need to know what the price is before I buy it. If it is too high, I might wait for another smartphone to release.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

It is 3 days from B2B and Preorder and we still don't know a price yet for the 8130? Whats the secret? I need to know what the price is before I buy it. If it is too high, I might wait for another smartphone to release.

I will admit, in two years of working for Verizon (ex-employee) and several years of following them, I haven't seen this much of a lack of information in quite a while, if ever.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

I will admit, in two years of working for Verizon (ex-employee) and several years of following them, I haven't seen this much of a lack of information in quite a while, if ever.

maybe's its not coming out

Posted by: Patmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

maybe's its not coming out

Just had a little chat........

Please wait for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience!
A Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with James.
James.: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. I am available to answer your questions and help you navigate through our site more efficiently. How may I assist you today?
You: I thought the Pearl was suppose to be available for preorder now?
James.: It will be out within a week.
You: To order or preorder?
James.: To order not preorder.
James.: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
You: Ok great. I had heard the order date was the 8th so that's right?
James.: Yes that is correct.
You: Great you have been the most help of any I have spoken to in the past.
James.: Thank you very much.
James.: Do you have any other questions for me?
You: That will do it.
James.: Thank you for visiting Verizon Wireless, I look forward to speaking with you again. Have a great day!
You: Thank you
Your chat session has been ended by your Verizon Wireless online agent.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patmos

A glimmer of hope...

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

A glimmer of hope...

where did you find a chat session for "online pre-sales specialist" as it is listed in your post.......

Posted by: Patmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

where did you find a chat session for "online pre-sales specialist" as it is listed in your post.......

When I go on the order site looking at phones, the box just pops up. I don't think there is a "link" to actually click on anywhere.

Posted by: nittanyjack

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

Just received this info via email from my B2B rep:

Quote: Our tech guy just got the answer. It looks like $299.99 2 yr. Minus $50 mail in rebate, minus $100 credit for unlimited data pkg. So, it looks like $149.99, GREAT price!

I hope this is it because I also have NE2. I also have asked if the data packages are changing which it appears they are.

Posted by: ferniesp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patmos

Within a week, that would be this week it would be out.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

I hope this is it because I also have NE2. I also have asked if the data packages are changing which it appears they are.

Assuming NE2 could be used in addition to that (but even if not I guess), that's actually a pretty good price for a phone like that (especially with some prices of feature phones, like RAZR2 and/or the rumored LG Voyager, being quite a bit higher than that).

Posted by: jdougal

Do we know if NE2 will go on top of all these discounts?

Posted by: nittanyjack

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdougal

Do we know if NE2 will go on top of all these discounts?

I have done it before with my B2B rep and recently with the BB8830 but I returned it so I am eligible again.

Posted by: 213ninja

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdougal

Do we know if NE2 will go on top of all these discounts?

that would make it $49.99 - $99.99! that seems too good to be true...........

Posted by: liquidplatinum

299.99 - 50MIR would be great considering it was supposed to be 349.99- 50MIR. They must have changed that recently....

Wow, if its 299.99 I would get it for free after rebate. Fantastic.

Posted by: ward66

well, i used by new any two 10 days ago and got the 8830 for $100 after all the rebates, I dont see why the pearl (which i will be returning my 8830 to get) with "less" features, should cost more.

Posted by: nittanyjack

Quote:

Originally Posted by 213ninja

that would make it $49.99 - $99.99! that seems too good to be true...........

I was able to get the BB 8830 on the first day at $99.99 with my discounts. Seems about right. I will take it for $149.99 and sell my Treo on eBay and almost break even.

Posted by: chakos151

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdougal

Do we know if NE2 will go on top of all these discounts?

yep, it can.

Quote:

Save up to $100 with an Advanced Device Credit!

Receive up to a $100 instant credit off any PDA or BlackBerry device when activating an unlimited data and voice plan $39.99 or greater.

Receive up to a $50 instant credit off any PDA or BlackBerry device when selecting an unlimited data plan or feature.

Both savings require a 2-year agreement (excluding early upgrades). Savings will be reflected at checkout under the "Total Due Today" column.

The Advanced Device Credit cannot be combined with other device/handset discount or credit offers, other than New Every Two and any applicable mail-in rebate.

Posted by: jseah

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

I have done it before with my B2B rep and recently with the BB8830 but I returned it so I am eligible again.

Did they change the rules? The last time I qualified for NE2, I had gotten "the V" and I was told that I could not use NE2 through B2B. I ended up going through retail as it was cheaper for me to use my NE2 than to use the corporate discounted pricing on handsets.

Posted by: nittanyjack

Quote:

Originally Posted by jseah

I have always done it this way. I would have done what you did if I were told it was any different.

Posted by: nittanyjack

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward66

well, i used by new any two 10 days ago and got the 8830 for $100 after all the rebates, I dont see why the pearl (which i will be returning my 8830 to get) with "less" features, should cost more.

What do you mean by "less" features?

Posted by: jdougal

Well this is a must then if NE2 works and this ends up costing $50.

Posted by: BlackBerry

I'll only get $50 off as I'm adding it to one of my secondary lines.

Posted by: ushneb

I wasn't aware you NE2 applied to secondary lines, only the primary. I just got my mom a new phone yesterday and there was no 'extra' discount and she's been past her 2 year mark a couple of months ago.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ushneb

I wasn't aware you NE2 applied to secondary lines, only the primary. I just got my mom a new phone yesterday and there was no 'extra' discount and she's been past her 2 year mark a couple of months ago.

NE2 doesn't apply to secondary lines. (This is quite off topic though.)

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comrade DM

NE2 doesn't apply to secondary lines. (This is quite off topic though.)

I'm not talking about NE2, I'm talking about the advanced device discount--since the secondary line isn't on a plan that's $39.99 or higher, I only get $50 off of the price.

Posted by: TheHedonist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

Sorry to be unclear, I didn't mean to imply VZNav would not end up being on it. I just don't consider it a viable GPS solution on a phone with an inbuilt GPS chip. Hence, GPS will be crippled.

Thanks for the price info. Does anyone else remember the old days when Verizon would have the most expensive phones by far? No one can compete with Verizon's pda prices anymore.

Posted by: wooster019

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHedonist

Thanks for the price info. Does anyone else remember the old days when Verizon would have the most expensive phones by far? No one can compete with Verizon's pda prices anymore.

You mean once the data prices do drop - which hasn't happened yet and is really just rumor until it officially happens

Posted by: ward66

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

What do you mean by "less" features?

well, the qwerty keyboard and world phone capabilities are the main 2 features....there may be more, but those are the only 2 that i can think of right this second...

Posted by: jsprewell

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward66

well, the qwerty keyboard and world phone capabilities are the main 2 features....there may be more, but those are the only 2 that i can think of right this second...

I'm uncertain at this moment, but from everything I've been reading and told by various people, the Pearl will have an updated version of the software the 8830 has. The Pearl should have all the features the 8830 has plus the camera, etc. The only reason to go for the 8830 was the qwerty keyboard and the world phone capabilities.

Posted by: jseah

One obvious reason I see in buying it through the b2b route rather than b2c is that the price of phones under a one year contract from the b2b site is only $30 more than the price under a two year contract.

Posted by: x ray tech

I am looking to upgrade to a PDA phone, mainly for email and internet surfing. Would this phone be a good choice for what I want to do.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by x ray tech

I am looking to upgrade to a PDA phone, mainly for email and internet surfing. Would this phone be a good choice for what I want to do.

Is the sky blue?

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

Is the sky blue?

Actually, right now it's more of a black with these sparkling white dots mixed in. Weird.

Posted by: x ray tech

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

Is the sky blue?

Thanks I just wanted to be sure. I don't have any experience with PDA's and didn't want to be stuck under contract if it didn't fit my needs.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by x ray tech

didn't want to be stuck under contract if it didn't fit my needs.

You have 30 days to try it out and if its not your type of phone you can return it and not be in contract anymore.

Posted by: hamdude

Does anyone know what accessories are already out there for the 8130? I know the camera placement for the Pearl 2 is different than the 8100, so are there any cases out there that fit the Pearl 2? Also, will the 8100 charging stand work on the 8130?

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamdude

Does anyone know what accessories are already out there for the 8130? I know the camera placement for the Pearl 2 is different than the 8100, so are there any cases out there that fit the Pearl 2? Also, will the 8100 charging stand work on the 8130?

From what I've read, it comes with stereo headphones and a charger, but not a dock or a case.

Posted by: Shemmy

Pretty much everything for the Pearl will (should) work form the Pearl2. If the camera placing is different, then one of the exceptions will be skins.

Posted by: Sarlic

I currently have the 8830, and I have no end of headaches having to go to VZWpix.xom to view all MMS messages. I'll never understand why that is disabled.

I'm seriously considering a switch over to the Pearl 2 for the form factor, the camera, etc.

I'm assuming that MMS will NOT be disabled on the Pearl 2?

I read on blackberryforums.com that GPS will be enabled for 3rd party programs (someone heard this from a verizon business sales rep during a sales meeting or something).

Posted by: maxint

thought some would find this interesting... think verizon's will compare???

http://www.rimarkable.com/sprint-co...erry-data-plans

Posted by: portseven

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlic

I currently have the 8830, and I have no end of headaches having to go to VZWpix.xom to view all MMS messages. I'll never understand why that is disabled.

I'm seriously considering a switch over to the Pearl 2 for the form factor, the camera, etc.

I'm assuming that MMS will NOT be disabled on the Pearl 2?

I read on blackberryforums.com that GPS will be enabled for 3rd party programs (someone heard this from a verizon business sales rep during a sales meeting or something).

From what I've been told by our B2B rep, since the Pearl 2 has a camera, it will be enabled for sending and receiving MMS. I still don't understand why they disabled it on the 8830.

Posted by: Sarlic

Thanks, I hope this is the case.

I'm a bit upset to lose the full querty and the size of the screen etc, but I guess these are the tough decisions we have to make. :-) The lack of MMS is just stupid. I read somewhere that it was done like this to force people to use the internet from their blackberry and thus pay, etc.

If that's the case, that's really unbelievable.

I'd switch to AT&T if the coverage wasn't so much worse than Verizon. Here's hoping that AT&T beefs that up some day so we can all wave goodbye!

Posted by: TheHedonist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlic

I read on blackberryforums.com that GPS will be enabled for 3rd party programs (someone heard this from a verizon business sales rep during a sales meeting or something).

Nice. I would love to have to eat my words.

Posted by: bkw13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlic

Thanks, I hope this is the case.

I'm a bit upset to lose the full querty and the size of the screen etc, but I guess these are the tough decisions we have to make. :-) The lack of MMS is just stupid. I read somewhere that it was done like this to force people to use the internet from their blackberry and thus pay, etc.

If that's the case, that's really unbelievable.

I'd switch to AT&T if the coverage wasn't so much worse than Verizon. Here's hoping that AT&T beefs that up some day so we can all wave goodbye!

When did Verizon or anyone else say that mms would be disabled on the Pearl?

Posted by: Sarlic

Sorry, I was talking about the 8830 -- my bad.

I wanted to make sure it WASN'T disabled on the new pearl.

Posted by: bkw13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarlic

Sorry, I was talking about the 8830 -- my bad.

I wanted to make sure it WASN'T disabled on the new pearl.

oh ok, cool

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooster019

You mean once the data prices do drop - which hasn't happened yet and is really just rumor until it officially happens

Chat InformationPlease wait for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience!
Chat InformationA Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with Rochelle
You: I was trying to find info on the new blackberry plans that are supposed to come out
Rochelle: We do not them at this time and we have not been provided with the details of these plans yet.
You: are they changing?
Rochelle: Yes, they are.

I also talked to a CSR and they said they've been told $30 for unlimited, they just don't know when... as she put it "we're the last to know anything"

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

why won't they just release the info already................... grrrrrrrr.........

Posted by: Vatothe0

Wirelessly posted (Wireless: BlackBerry7130e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105 UP.Browser/5.0.3.3)

Because they will get fired.........arrrrrrrrrrrr......

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vatothe0

Wirelessly posted (Wireless: BlackBerry7130e/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105 UP.Browser/5.0.3.3)

Because they will get fired.........arrrrrrrrrrrr......

It's sad how some people are just so selfish to the fact that reps sign NDAs and don't understand that 95% of reps/employees in general aren't going to risk their jobs to tell people pre-release info

The only slight exception to this are B2B reps. They're allowed a little bit more flexiblity (especially major/corporate/gov't account reps) when it comes to business decisions that might cost them accounts.

Posted by: ward66

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

thought some would find this interesting... think verizon's will compare???

http://www.rimarkable.com/sprint-co...erry-data-plans

would i look foolish saying a prayer for VZW's bb plan to match the sprint one? free messaging, tv and nav for $30! sweet.....amen, just kidding...

Posted by: Gibralter

Lol yeah i doubt it will ever be close to the bonus features that other carriers offer.

I'm just happy it dropped to 30 so i can actually afford it (well that is what i keep trying to tell myself

)

Posted by: Scientia

BGR just confirmed sprint is releasing the 8130 on black friday

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...unch-on-sprint/

C'mon Verizon!

Posted by: ChrisRichey

I had a RIM training call for the 8130 today, and they basically confirmed everything said thus far in the thread. Thanks for the great info guys!

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRichey

I had a RIM training call for the 8130 today, and they basically confirmed everything said thus far in the thread. Thanks for the great info guys!

No problem.

Posted by: 0mie

Wirelessly posted (Omies enV: LGE-VX9900/1.0 UP.Browser/6.2.3.2 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

BGR just confirmed sprint is releasing the 8130 on black friday

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...unch-on-sprint/

C'mon Verizon!

Verizon is releasing it this friday for b2b and pre-order and nov. 8 to the "public".

what do you mean come on verizon?

Posted by: Patmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

BGR just confirmed sprint is releasing the 8130 on black friday

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...unch-on-sprint/

C'mon Verizon!

Posted this conversation a few posts back.

Just had a little chat........

Please wait for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience!
A Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with James.
James.: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. I am available to answer your questions and help you navigate through our site more efficiently. How may I assist you today?
You: I thought the Pearl was suppose to be available for preorder now?
James.: It will be out within a week.
You: To order or preorder?
James.: To order not preorder.
James.: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
You: Ok great. I had heard the order date was the 8th so that's right?
James.: Yes that is correct.
You: Great you have been the most help of any I have spoken to in the past.
James.: Thank you very much.
James.: Do you have any other questions for me?
You: That will do it.
James.: Thank you for visiting Verizon Wireless, I look forward to speaking with you again. Have a great day!
You: Thank you
Your chat session has been ended by your Verizon Wireless online agent.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

BGR just confirmed sprint is releasing the 8130 on black friday

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...unch-on-sprint/

C'mon Verizon!

You would rather have to wait until after Thanksgiving?

I'll take mine next week, thanks.

Posted by: HPdrifter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

How oh how do you "chat with a CSR" rep? I go the the verizon wireless website on a daily basis and search and search and I've never seen this option......I see dozen's of people posting chat transcripts! Can some one explain this or provide a link? I have pop up's disabled and still can't get there! It's bad enough I've been waiting over a year for a new phone now VZW finds another way to anoy me!

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPdrifter

Usually, when I'm browsing their site, it will pop up after awhile. You may be blocking it.

Posted by: Patmos

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPdrifter

Try browsing the sales site. Like you are picking out a new phone. It should pop up. Seems after I accepted the invite once, it pops up everytime I am there now. There is no link for the chat.

Posted by: cplclegg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRichey

I had a RIM training call for the 8130 today, and they basically confirmed everything said thus far in the thread. Thanks for the great info guys!

Even the ability to use the GPS for 3rd party apps without forking over $9.99 for Navigator?

Posted by: portseven

Funny, my B2B rep just told me it wouldn't be out until "mid-November". Obviously not true though, although you'd think they would know a day and a half before release. Here's to Thursday!

Posted by: Scientia

I must have not seen your post or the others stating the release date by verizon and I haven't seen anything official. I guess I was under the impression that the dates were still a moving target and not really known since the last "official" document was wrong.

I said "C'mon" because I wanted something official from VZW since sprint has now confirmed, even if the VZW one is coming out before the sprint version

So my mistake... sorry

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

Wirelessly posted (Omies enV: LGE-VX9900/1.0 UP.Browser/6.2.3.2 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

Verizon is releasing it this friday for b2b and pre-order and nov. 8 to the "public".

what do you mean come on verizon?

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPdrifter

Generally if you call VZW and talk to a CSR they're a little more informative

Posted by: maxint

check this out!!!!!!

Verizon, Google Discuss Mobile Phone Partnership
By Amol Sharma
Word Count: 606 | Companies Featured in This Article: Google, Verizon Communications, Vodafone, AT&T, Apple, Deutsche Telekom

After opposing Google Inc.'s moves to dramatically reshape the wireless industry, Verizon Wireless is now in serious discussions with the Internet company over carrying phones tailored to a new Google operating system, a person familiar with the discussions said.

Within two weeks, Google is expected to announce new software and services that handset makers could use to build customized Google-powered phones. The company needs wireless operators to sign onto the project in order to get Google-powered mobile devices in front of consumers by the middle of next year.

Posted by: Nthach

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

check this out!!!!!!

Verizon, Google Discuss Mobile Phone Partnership
By Amol Sharma
Word Count: 606 | Companies Featured in This Article: Google, Verizon Communications, Vodafone, AT&T, Apple, Deutsche Telekom

After opposing Google Inc.'s moves to dramatically reshape the wireless industry, Verizon Wireless is now in serious discussions with the Internet company over carrying phones tailored to a new Google operating system, a person familiar with the discussions said.

Within two weeks, Google is expected to announce new software and services that handset makers could use to build customized Google-powered phones. The company needs wireless operators to sign onto the project in order to get Google-powered mobile devices in front of consumers by the middle of next year.

If VZW can talk to Google and this goes through, Apple should see this as a slap in the face.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

You can't get much more vague than that.

Posted by: fumblerooski

Wow the Google phone is SO relevant to the Pearl zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted by: BlackBerry

Well, it seems as if numerous reports are pointing to November 8th, so I'd guess that it's fairly accurate.

Posted by: iPhoneKiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tre-i-e-i-o

Wow the Google phone is SO relevant to the Pearl zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Are you and I the only ones that noticed that?

Keep to the Pearl. That's why we are all here. If we wanted to hear more rumors about google products we would go and find it.

Posted by: BlackBerry

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPhoneKiller

Are you and I the only ones that noticed that?

Keep to the Pearl. That's why we are all here. If we wanted to hear more rumors about google products we would go and find it.

It's a 52 page long thread; it's not even worth the time to point things out such as these.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opacity

It's a 52 page long thread; it's not even worth the time to point things out such as these.

That was my thinking exactly.

Posted by: cellmet

So, has anyone been able to confirm what accessories will be included? Several pages back there was some discussion on this, but I don't think anything confirmed. A case would be nice.

Posted by: mbpyro

According to:

http://blackberryforums.pinstack.co...arl_8830_a.html

Someone posted that they spoke to a director of data support for the NE, and claims the GPS will be fully unlocked.

I'm just as skeptical as the rest of you, but that would just be awesome.

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellmet

So, has anyone been able to confirm what accessories will be included? Several pages back there was some discussion on this, but I don't think anything confirmed. A case would be nice.

The standard accessories that come with the T-Mobile and AT&T Pearl are...

AC Travel Charger
USB cable
Wired earbud/mic for hands free
Desktop Manager CD
guide of some kind
Pearl
Battery

SO I'm expecting the same.

With other Blackberries thus far, Verizon has NOT included the wired earbud/mic. So I'm expecting the VZW Pearl to NOT come with one.

I doubt they will include a "belt holster" or "sleeve" as the GSM Pearl's don't... but VZW might suprise us...

Posted by: maxint

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7290/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/101)

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPhoneKiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tre-i-e-i-o

Wow the Google phone is SO relevant to the Pearl zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Are you and I the only ones that noticed that?

Keep to the Pearl. That's why we are all here. If we wanted to hear more rumors about google products we would go and find it.

Maybe you guys should post 6 more messages about relevance because that is what everyone wants to read...

But maybe you could stop and think that this could be a major development for the software the pearl is going to run...

Also... If this is a large annoouncement, maybe the pearl is being held up for it...

But keep posting your snooty remarks...

Posted by: ferniesp

After much thought, I think I am going to pass on the Pearl as well. I was at ComUSA last night looking at Cingular's Pearl. Yes, I know Verizon's will be a bit different but not by much. I tried to text a few lines(what a pain in the ***). I mean, it's cute and all but clearly not for such a manly guy like me..

. Hopefully the curve will be next.

Posted by: portseven

So are we still thinking tomorrow (11/1) for B2B ordering? Seems to be a lot less chatter than I've come to expect the day before a launch...

Posted by: mick4394

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Originally Posted by portseven

So are we still thinking tomorrow (11/1) for B2B ordering? Seems to be a lot less chatter than I've come to expect the day before a launch...

It's the calm before the storm.

Posted by: Vatothe0

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Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

With other Blackberries thus far, Verizon has NOT included the wired earbud/mic. So I'm expecting the VZW Pearl to NOT come with one.

I doubt they will include a "belt holster" or "sleeve" as the GSM Pearl's don't... but VZW might suprise us...

It doesn't come with an earbud but it will come with something called the "Blackberry Pocket". It's a case of some sort but the info page didn't really elaborate on what that was.

Posted by: BlackBerry

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Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

I stumbled across a preview site somewhere that stated that it was going to come with earbuds, however I don't know if the actual post-production model will.

Posted by: BlackBerry

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Originally Posted by maxint

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7290/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/101)

Maybe you guys should post 6 more messages about relevance because that is what everyone wants to read...

But maybe you could stop and think that this could be a major development for the software the pearl is going to run...

Also... If this is a large annoouncement, maybe the pearl is being held up for it...

But keep posting your snooty remarks...

The Google operating system has absolutely NOTHING to do with the pearl. The pearl is released on November 8; the handsets that potentially (note: tentatively) may be running a Google OS won't be out until mid-2008.

Posted by: Gabatta

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Originally Posted by ferniesp

After much thought, I think I am going to pass on the Pearl as well. I was at ComUSA last night looking at Cingular's Pearl. Yes, I know Verizon's will be a bit different but not by much. I tried to text a few lines(what a pain in the ***). I mean, it's cute and all but clearly not for such a manly guy like me..

. Hopefully the curve will be next.

The keyboard is reportedly improved on the Pearl2. I will be getting the Pearl and likely selling it if/when the Curve comes out.

Posted by: BlackBerry

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Originally Posted by Gabatta

The keyboard is reportedly improved on the Pearl2. I will be getting the Pearl and likely selling it if/when the Curve comes out.

I have heard that as well. When I had the Pearl with AT&T, it took about a week and a half to become accustomed to the keyboard; once I did, I found that I was messaging faster on it than on a normal phone or QWERTY keyboard.

Posted by: GadgetGeek

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Originally Posted by Gabatta

The keyboard is reportedly improved on the Pearl2.

From what I've heard/seen the trackball is further embedded into the phone... the Send, End & Nav keys are larger.. and the overall 'feel' of the keyboard is improved in solidity with a less mushy feel.

Posted by: mick4394

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Originally Posted by Opacity

From everything I've read, this has nothing to do with a Google OS anyway. It's about making Google applications compatible with Verizon/BREW phones.

Posted by: dgoode01

For what it's worth....

I just called the normal VZW Service and the Rep (John) originally said no info was available as to the release date for the Pearl. So then I asked about the 6800 when he went to look for that release date he found the Pearl and said it must have been loaded into their system this morning. He said the date for release for the Pearl via all channels was 11/8.

We'll see....

Posted by: jiholl

Does anyone know if the background noise reduction advertised to be on the Pearl 2 will help with the issue that many 8830 users are experiencing?...I tried an 8830 in the store and its not background noise on the device end, its what it picks up and sends to the other end...I left a voice mail for myself from the noisy store and it was incredible how loud the background sounds were...greatly reduced ability to understand my voice????

Posted by: GadgetGeek

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Originally Posted by jiholl

Does anyone know if the background noise reduction advertised to be on the Pearl 2 will help with the issue that many 8830 users are experiencing?...I tried an 8830 in the store and its not background noise on the device end, its what it picks up and sends to the other end...I left a voice mail for myself from the noisy store and it was incredible how loud the background sounds were...greatly reduced ability to understand my voice????

I'll also be interested to see the voice quality of the VZW Pearl2. A friend of mine has the 8830 and I find even slight background noise on his end makes his voice difficult to understand!!

Posted by: jiholl

Does anyone know if this was as much an issue with the 8703e...you dont see that complaint on postings...but anyone with experience with the two devices???? thanks

Posted by: mkempton

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Originally Posted by dgoode01

For what it's worth....

I just called the normal VZW Service and the Rep (John) originally said no info was available as to the release date for the Pearl. So then I asked about the 6800 when he went to look for that release date he found the Pearl and said it must have been loaded into their system this morning. He said the date for release for the Pearl via all channels was 11/8.

We'll see....

An email just went out from our wireless team at work saying VZW had delayed the release until 11/8. We have a pretty good rep, so I tend to believe them.