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Official BlackBerry Pearl 8130 Pre-Release Thread
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Posted by: fredyoon

Is this the prerelease for B2B on 11/01's been pushed back to 11/08, therefore, pushing back all other channels (store, and regular customers) back further than 11/08, or 11/08 release nationwide for all channels?

Posted by: GadgetGeek

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Originally Posted by GadgetGeek

I'll also be interested to see the voice quality of the VZW Pearl2. A friend of mine has the 8830 and I find even slight background noise on his end makes his voice difficult to understand!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiholl

Does anyone know if this was as much an issue with the 8703e...you dont see that complaint on postings...but anyone with experience with the two devices???? thanks

Actually another friend has the 8703e and I've not experienced the background noise issue speaking to her on that phone, so don't think its an issue on the 8703e... but very noticeable on my other friend's 8830.

Posted by: portseven

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredyoon

Is this the prerelease for B2B on 11/01's been pushed back to 11/08, therefore, pushing back all other channels (store, and regular customers) back further than 11/08, or 11/08 release nationwide for all channels?

It's sounding more and more like the B2B is going to be on 11/8 along with the rest of the channels. Several B2B reps have independently stated that date anyways.

Posted by: rcg412

Anyone have any thoughts on the non-contract price? I was thinking ~ 300-400.

Posted by: Scientia

So would the pre-sale still be tomorrow and the public release next thursday or does that all get pushed back?

Posted by: Gabatta

Who knows? However it sounds like there is not going to be a pre-sale at all.

Posted by: kristina.kozak

There is a nice thread on blackberryforums.com about this phone. Sounds like GPS is disabled, but here is the link so you can decide for yourself.

VZW 8130 Preview

Posted by: docrootcanal

the 8703e was a great phone ...no background sounds or hearing problems, but the 8830 went back to the store within the week.... hope the pearl 2 is better

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristina.kozak

There is a nice thread on blackberryforums.com about this phone. Sounds like GPS is disabled, but here is the link so you can decide for yourself.

VZW 8130 Preview

I read that thread. The person who has the 8130 received a demo unit curtosy of VZW but that is RIM's property (even says "Property of Research In Motion" on the back like all demo units do).

IOW, it's not a retail release model.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristina.kozak

There is a nice thread on blackberryforums.com about this phone. Sounds like GPS is disabled, but here is the link so you can decide for yourself.

VZW 8130 Preview

Nice find. So far, his experience doesn't sound so hot.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

Nice find. So far, his experience doesn't sound so hot.

The only thing he complained about really was the GPS, which personally I could care less about.

Posted by: kristina.kozak

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

The only thing he complained about really was the GPS, which personally I could care less about.

Oh yeah, I totally agree. I don't really care about having GPS. I'm getting this phone no matter what. I just thought I'd share what I had found since so many people were speculating about the GPS capabilities. Plus there are pics in there too.

Posted by: vrs626

Any new info on release dates. That blackberryforums thread had all sorts of different dates in it....November 9, November 11th, "mid-November," etc.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Still is and always has been Nov 8.

Posted by: vrs626

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Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Still is and always has been Nov 8.

Thanks for the info

Posted by: Mark_Venture

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Originally Posted by Vatothe0

It doesn't come with an earbud but it will come with something called the "Blackberry Pocket". It's a case of some sort but the info page didn't really elaborate on what that was.

that is what I meant by a "sleeve"...

see -> http://www.shopblackberry.com/_blac...2DG25MAAP34BJZE

They included one with the T-Mobile Curve (8320)... But the AT&T Curve (8300) doesn't include either "pocket" or holster

The T-Mobile and AT&T Pearls don't include anything either.

Posted by: ChrisRichey

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Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Still is and always has been Nov 8.

The reps from RIM said this as well yesterday on my conference call.

Posted by: machpost

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Originally Posted by mick4394

Nice find. So far, his experience doesn't sound so hot.

Regarding the inactive GPS, the device in question is clearly a demonstration model, and all of the other demo models also had disabled GPS. From everything I've read, VZ Navigator for this and the other BlackBerry with GPS is supposed to be rolled out soon, so hopefully the retail units will ship with usable GPS.

Posted by: cellularsales

i've got a full spec sheet. it has VZ navigator listed in the programs. anyone able to host a PDF for me?

Posted by: bturkel

Can someone tell me if you will be bale to get MMS messages on this phone? I love my 8830 but not to get pictures via MMS is really a minus for me.

Posted by: mattag29

I know that you can get mms on t-mobile's and at&t's pearl so I am assuming you can on Verizon's one.

Posted by: Humpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellularsales

i've got a full spec sheet. it has VZ navigator listed in the programs. anyone able to host a PDF for me?

You can send it to humpa at humpa dot com and I'll do something with it and post it here.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellularsales

i've got a full spec sheet. it has VZ navigator listed in the programs. anyone able to host a PDF for me?

I think getting it to someone like FAUguy (via http://www.howardforums.com/member.php?userid=12978 perhaps) usually works as well.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by bturkel

Can someone tell me if you will be bale to get MMS messages on this phone? I love my 8830 but not to get pictures via MMS is really a minus for me.

Yes, you can get MMS on this phone.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humpa

You can send it to humpa at humpa dot com and I'll do something with it and post it here.

lp already said he would host a few posts before yours, but I guess he deleted the post.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

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Originally Posted by 0mie

lp already said he would host a few posts before yours, but I guess he deleted the post.

Once I saw Humpa's post I decided that if CellularSales wanted it hosted, Humpa would probably be able to do it sooner than I would.....

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Once I saw Humpa's post I decided that if CellularSales wanted it hosted, Humpa would probably be able to do it sooner than I would.....

There is always rapidshare, sendspace and all those free hosting sites. lol

Posted by: liquidplatinum

It's 12:05am, no plan changes, no BB pre-order. Everyone is lying, the info was false, I'm porting to at&t because VZW is the Devil.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

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Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

The only thing he complained about really was the GPS, which personally I could care less about.

In his review he said he wasn't impressed. However if he's comparing it against an existing Pearl or Curve to the VZW Pearl being unimpressed just means there isn't any major changes. Whereas for us VZW users, just getting the Pearl is great.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

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Originally Posted by KeilwerthSX90R

I always found fault in demo units though. They always had weird quirks. I haven't heard one negative thing yet from my VZW peeps that already have retail units so we'll see I guess.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

I always found fault in demo units though. They always had weird quirks. I haven't heard one negative thing yet from my VZW peeps that already have retail units so we'll see I guess.

That's also a good point. Regardless, I'm excited to have the Pearl on VZW - I really think the reviewer was looking for some drastic changes compared to his Curve.

Based on the people you have talked to with the Pearl, do you know if there is anyway to separate out BES email from the main combined inbox?

Posted by: liquidplatinum

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Originally Posted by KeilwerthSX90R

Unless someone finds out and posts before I do, I'll find out definitively tomorrow.

Posted by: KeilwerthSX90R

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Unless someone finds out and posts before I do, I'll find out definitively tomorrow.

Thanks.

BTW, Go Buckeyes!

Posted by: Orlando_65

Anyone have any information on pricing yet?

Also...I freaking HATE Verizon's choice of silver...hated it on the 8830, and hate it on the 8130...

So rather than just complain and get a case...I'd like to ask if anyone knows whether or not a OEM housing on current Pearls will fit the Verizon one

(i.e. buying a red housing and swapping it out on the VZW one)

All information would be greatly appreciated...thanks!

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orlando_65

Anyone have any information on pricing yet?

Also...I freaking HATE Verizon's choice of silver...hated it on the 8830, and hate it on the 8130...

So rather than just complain and get a case...I'd like to ask if anyone knows whether or not a OEM housing on current Pearls will fit the Verizon one

(i.e. buying a red housing and swapping it out on the VZW one)

All information would be greatly appreciated...thanks!

I just ordered the blue and white housings.

I will let you guys know as soon as I receive them.

They are the same exact dimension, except a minor .02" difference on the depth but ill fix that

Posted by: 0mie

2 yr. $299.99 before $50 MIR , well thats what a little birdy told me

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

2 yr. $299.99 before $50 MIR , well thats what a little birdy told me

Cool. Looks consistent with what was mentioned earlier at http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...9&postcount=716, assuming there's also the $100 data credit/discount/rebate.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

2 yr. $299.99 before $50 MIR , well thats what a little birdy told me

Yep. And I won't have to pay a penny for it because VZW owes me.

Posted by: 0mie

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Originally Posted by Comrade DM

Cool. Looks consistent with what was mentioned earlier at http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...9&postcount=716, assuming there's also the $100 data credit/discount/rebate.

Yea, the data discount also applies.

Posted by: vrs626

So with NE2 and the data discount it comes out to $50?? If that's the case sign me up.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs626

So with NE2 and the data discount it comes out to $50?? If that's the case sign me up.

Not $50 since there is tax on full retail. Well here in California anyway

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs626

So with NE2 and the data discount it comes out to $50?? If that's the case sign me up.

That's what I'm sayin'!!!!

Posted by: syndoc

With NE2 and ADC I'm coming up with $99.99 for my pre-order. Pretty good deal I think.

SyN

Posted by: 0mie

The pre-orders have been up for some time and nobody has posted anything about it?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...CompletedOrder=

Also, there is no rebate on it, only a $100 discount. Weird. Well, we will see later on I guess.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

The pre-orders have been up for some time and nobody has posted anything about it?

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...CompletedOrder=

Also, there is no rebate on it, only a $100 discount. Weird. Well, we will see later on I guess.

I've been checking the site fairly often and it doesn't seem that the phone appeared there until maybe about an hour or so ago, if not less than that. And, yes, looks like there's a $100 online discount (not sure if that's the ADD one or not) and nothing else, at least not yet, like another rebate or something like that, as far as I can tell.

Posted by: pballa2099

whats the retail price now preorders are up

Posted by: 0mie

Someone was asking this earlier:

Included Accessories

* Lithium Ion Battery (900mAh)
* USB Data Cable
* BlackBerry® Pocket (no warranty)
* BlackBerry Travel Charger
* 3.5 mm 4 Pole Stereo Headset
* Documentation Kit (including BlackBerry Tools CD)
* VZAccess Manager CD (including User Guide)
* Quick Reference Guide

Posted by: mbpyro

Just logged in to my account, and looked at the phone upgrades (i'm not elgible for an upgrade).

Retail price is listed as $319.99

Is it me, or is that crazy cheap for this thing??

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpyro

Just logged in to my account, and looked at the phone upgrades (i'm not elgible for an upgrade).

Retail price is listed as $319.99

Is it me, or is that crazy cheap for this thing??

I believe its a mistake, take advantage of it while you can.

If I remember correctly the price was $469.99 retail or $519.99, but it could of been a different phone.

Don't have the info at the moment.

Posted by: C DM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpyro

Just logged in to my account, and looked at the phone upgrades (i'm not elgible for an upgrade).

Retail price is listed as $319.99

Is it me, or is that crazy cheap for this thing??

I just checked as well, and see the same thing, pretty crazy: http://i6.tinypic.com/6g3m0r6.jpg

Posted by: ScottPV

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

Just received this info via email from my B2B rep:

Quote: Our tech guy just got the answer. It looks like $299.99 2 yr. Minus $50 mail in rebate, minus $100 credit for unlimited data pkg. So, it looks like $149.99, GREAT price!

I hope this is it because I also have NE2. I also have asked if the data packages are changing which it appears they are.

I just ordered mine for $99.99 with NE2!!!!!

Posted by: 0mie

I just ordered 2 and its not saying anything about a pre-order. It says I should have it and 2-5 business days

but all online orders have free overnight shipping.

This is getting weirder and weirder by the minute. lol

Posted by: ScottPV

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs626

So with NE2 and the data discount it comes out to $50?? If that's the case sign me up.

Just ordered with NE2:

Phone Upgrade: 123456789
BlackBerry® Pearl™ 8130 smartphone - regularly $299.99
2-year Contract Renewal 1 $199.99
Advance Device Credit: -$100.00
Accessories
Lithium Ion Battery (900mAh), USB Data Cable, BlackBerry Pocket (no warranty), BlackBerry Travel Charger, 3.5 mm 4 Pole Stereo Headset, Documentation Kit (including BlackBerry Tools CD), VZAccess Manager CD (including User Guide), Quick Reference Guide

Posted by: j2sheck

The cat is out of the bag! That software enhancement everyone's been speculating about has been revealed! The 8130 will be running... Windows Mobile!!! No, not really, but check out VZW's product page for the Pearl 2 -- http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?...ext&phone=pearl -- and click on "3G Turbo Boost." Pretty funny, but also a pretty atrocious slip up for Verizon.

Posted by: mbpyro

Just ordered mine full retail, total w/ tax is $347.59

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbpyro

Just ordered mine full retail, total w/ tax is $347.59

I paid $344 for each of mine

This is good news indeed.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by j2sheck

The cat is out of the bag! That software enhancement everyone's been speculating about has been revealed! The 8130 will be running... Windows Mobile!!! No, not really, but check out VZW's product page for the Pearl 2 -- http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?...ext&phone=pearl -- and click on "3G Turbo Boost." Pretty funny, but also a pretty atrocious slip up for Verizon.

Heres a pic for the lazy people

Posted by: 0mie

Maybe the prices are not so out of the question.

The att Pearl is $349.99 retail and the Tmo Pearl is $299.99 retail.

They have been out a whole lot longer though, but im just trying to make sense of all this.

$299.99 with 2 yr.

Then it would make is $349.99 with 1 yr. Thats $30 more then retail, might as well buy full retail.

My retail pricing should be correct but its late and im super tired and I probably dont know what im talking about

(The prices dont include NE2 and ADD discounts of course or the instant rebate)

Posted by: cellularsales

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humpa

You can send it to humpa at humpa dot com and I'll do something with it and post it here.

sent, post it whenever you get it.

Posted by: ward66

weird, the 2 yr price is only a $20 discount, whats the point in signing a new contract?

Posted by: Scientia

Doesn't look like the plans have changed yet... I guess I'll wait till they do before I get mine

Posted by: Shemmy

It's not listed under the BlackBerry plans. It's an add-on to the standard voice plans.

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shemmy

It's not listed under the BlackBerry plans. It's an add-on to the standard voice plans.

Isn't that still the old pricing?

Posted by: fredyoon

How were you guys able to order the phone online?

I logged onto my account on verizonwireless.com, did the upgrade phone option, and since I have to purchase it at full retail, the phone didn't appear. Am I missing something here?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

Posted by: portseven

Oh wtf, they must have taken it off the B2B sites. I can't see it on ours.

Posted by: wooster019

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

Isn't that still the old pricing?

No, now it appears to be unlimited instead of 10mb/month. Anyway, as was already stated, the email/web for BB is an upgrade to current voice plans. Simply log on to your account, upgrade to the Pearl, don't change your plan, and then another page with additional options appear. The 29.99 email/web option is on that page.

Did anyone notice that Vzn Navigator is not an added option? Did I miss something? Perhaps the GPS is not crippled and can be used as a stand alone - I sure hope so!

Posted by: mbpyro

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredyoon

How were you guys able to order the phone online?

I logged onto my account on verizonwireless.com, did the upgrade phone option, and since I have to purchase it at full retail, the phone didn't appear. Am I missing something here?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks

I just clicked the upgrad phone once logging in. It told me I wasnt elgible, I clicked upgrade, and it showed me every phone @ full retail. Pearl was listed there for 319.

Posted by: portseven

It is actually showing VZ Navigator under the capabilities tab, so I guess we won't have unrestricted GPS on it.

Posted by: fredyoon

Are all you guys B2B customers?

It still doesn't show up on my account to upgrade to the Pearl.

Posted by: dimabrook

pre order, when does this phone ship if you order it now? before the nov. 8th release

Posted by: dhonan42

Not showing up on my B2B upgrade page either...

Posted by: fredyoon

Anyone know when the retail stores will have these in stock?

Posted by: portseven

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredyoon

Anyone know when the retail stores will have these in stock?

Should be in stores on the 8th, or 9th at the latest from what I've been hearing. The 11/8 launch is all channels.

Posted by: ferniesp

The 8130 gives me no excitement whatsoever. After playing with other carriers Pearls, there is no way in hell that I could tolerate the small keypad. Have fun with it though.

Posted by: maxint

so it's available for me to upgrade..... however with new every 2, they list the price as $199 - $100 advance device credit. No additional $50 online discount ......

so if you are a new customer, the phone is $150, but new every 2 is $100.... frankly this is like false advertising... very annoyed...... thought it would be $50

Posted by: bkw13

Ah, just ordered mine too, full retail of just $319.99 for a Pearl is great. Considering regular EVDO phones that I get are usually $369.99 at minimum for retail.

Posted by: curtisdr

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhonan42

Not showing up on my B2B upgrade page either...

Mine either. And my rep is out this morning!

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooster019

I was looking at that as well, but I don't see any indication that the $29.99 plan includes unlimited data.

Quote:

Email and Web for BlackBerry®
Use your BlackBerry for personal email and Web surfing.
Your email will be “pushed” automatically to your device.
Access up to ten POP3 and IMAP email accounts, including Yahoo!® Mail, AOL® Mail, Windows Live® Hotmail®, and Verizon.net.
Easy email account setup.
Voice Usage: Per your voice calling plan.

That's all it says. There is a $44.99/month plan listed below that one, and it says "Unlimited Data Usage."

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by machpost

I was looking at that as well, but I don't see any indication that the $29.99 plan includes unlimited data.

That's all it says. There is a $44.99/month plan listed below that one, and it says "Unlimited Data Usage."

I've talked to 2 CSR's now the plans HAVE NOT changed

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scientia

I've talked to 2 CSR's now the plans HAVE NOT changed

for b2c they are available... question is if there is a data cap on that!

Posted by: machpost

So if the unlimited data option goes down in price after I sign up for the current plan, will I be able to get that discount without having to extend my contract?

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by machpost

So if the unlimited data option goes down in price after I sign up for the current plan, will I be able to get that discount without having to extend my contract?

Correct. You will just have to call in and ask them to change the plan for you.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimabrook

pre order, when does this phone ship if you order it now? before the nov. 8th release

It ships Nov. 7 and you receive it Nov.8 on Launch.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredyoon

Are all you guys B2B customers?

It still doesn't show up on my account to upgrade to the Pearl.

Im not a B2B customer, I dont even have a job

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0mie

Correct. You will just have to call in and ask them to change the plan for you.

Awesome, thanks! I guess that if I were to keep my current plan and add on that $29.99 data plan, I wouldn't be able to get the $100 advanced device credit, anyway.

Posted by: Humpa

Has anyone posted this pdf yet?
http://rapidshare.com/files/6672224..._Sheet.pdf.html

EDIT: here's the html version of both pages:
www.humpa.com/vzw/8130-Spec-Sheet.html
www.humpa.com/vzw/8130-Spec-Sheet2.html

EDIT2: I changed the pdf to a rapidshare link - just in case it becomes a bandwidth issue. But here's the direct link until I take it down:
www.humpa.com/vzw/8130-Spec-Sheet.pdf

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humpa

Has anyone posted this pdf yet?
www.humpa.com/vzw/8130-Spec-Sheet.pdf

Yea, you

Thanks for the info cellularsales and Humpa for hosting.

Posted by: Gabatta

Quote:

Originally Posted by ward66

weird, the 2 yr price is only a $20 discount, whats the point in signing a new contract?

Don't you need to sign a new contract to get the NE2 and Advanced Device discounts? That turns the difference into $220.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabatta

Don't you need to sign a new contract to get the NE2 and Advanced Device discounts? That turns the difference into $220.

spoke to CSR... the $100 Advance device + $50 online discount is only for new customers....

New every 2 customers only get the $100 credit.... frankly it's bs...

Posted by: machpost

Now I'm thinking that the $29.99 "Email and Web for BlackBerry®" data plan must be unlimited, because I went through the New Every Two upgrade, while keeping my current America's Choice $39.99 voice plan and adding the $29.99 data plan, and the $100 advanced device credit is still showing up at checkout! The advanced device credit reads as so:

Quote:

Receive up to a $100 instant credit off any PDA or BlackBerry device when activating an unlimited data and voice plan $39.99 or greater.

So, for that credit to show up, it must mean that the $29.99 data plan is unlimited.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by machpost

Now I'm thinking that the $29.99 "Email and Web for BlackBerry®" data plan must be unlimited, because I went through the New Every Two upgrade, while keeping my current America's Choice $39.99 voice plan and adding the $29.99 data plan, and the $100 advanced device credit is still showing up at checkout! The advanced device credit reads as so:

So, for that credit to show up, it must mean that the $29.99 data plan is unlimited.

It sure doesn't show up for me.

Posted by: ferniesp

Just spoke to Data Support and it's not unlimited Data.

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferniesp

Just spoke to Data Support and it's not unlimited Data.

Correct, that plan appears to be limited to 10MB, according to the sales rep I am currently chatting with.

Posted by: Celly911

Make sure you login to your account and go to Phone Upgrade. If you do this, add a plan of 39.99 + unlimited data the phone w/ 2 year contract is 99.99 199.99 - 100 discount

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Wirelessly posted (Remotely posting via: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Heard from my verizon rep earlier this morning... She'll be by at 4pm with my demo VZW Pearl, but it may not be active.(I.e. May not have service when I get it... She is working on that)

Posted by: curtisdr

Quote:

Originally Posted by machpost

Correct, that plan appears to be limited to 10MB, according to the sales rep I am currently chatting with.

So if it's not unlimited, what's the difference between it and the previous "lowest" priced BB data plan?

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by machpost

Correct, that plan appears to be limited to 10MB, according to the sales rep I am currently chatting with.

Tricky, tricky.

Funny that they don't mention that anywhere, isn't it?

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

Tricky, tricky.

Funny that they don't mention that anywhere, isn't it?

Indeed. That $49.99 "unlimited" data plan is capped at 5GB, according to the sales rep I just chatted with.

I just placed my order and decided to go for the 10MB plan. I've never had a data-capable phone before, so I have no idea how fast I'll burn through 10MB.

Posted by: x ray tech

I just got off the phone with customer service after pre ordering the Pearl, and the csr told me the $29.99 Blackberry plan included unlimited data and wasnt capped at 10mb. I even had her note it to my account so i wouldnt have any surprises on my bill.

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by x ray tech

I just got off the phone with customer service after pre ordering the Pearl, and the csr told me the $29.99 Blackberry plan included unlimited data and wasnt capped at 10mb. I even had her note it to my account so i wouldnt have any surprises on my bill.

Hmmm not what I've been told and how come I can't even pre-order the phone through a CSR?

Posted by: wooster019

Quote:

Originally Posted by x ray tech

That's what the CSR told me -- just got off the phone with him. He said that the 29.99 plan is unlimited.

He also said that the doors have blown in with requests for this phone already! He didn't know if there would be enough supply for the 8th release date! Makes me frustrated as my NE2 was all messed up and now I will have to wait up to 48 hours to get it fixed before I can pre-order!

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by x ray tech

I wonder if there was another, preexisting data plan that was $29.99 and had a 10MB cap. If this is indeed a brand new data plan, perhaps there is some confusion among CSRs.

Posted by: bkw13

This is ridiculous! I spoke with a CSR and supervisor, and neither of them said they know anything of the $29.99 plan being unlimited, yet, on the website, it doesn't say whether it's 5 mb, 10, 20, or unlimited.

Posted by: ferniesp

Quote:

Originally Posted by wooster019

I spoke to Data Support, he said 10 megs.

Posted by: x ray tech

When I was questioning the rep, she told me that the 29.99 Blackberry data plan was a new plan that just started today.

Posted by: JohnBoy

I realize this a link to the B2B site and consumer plans may be different, but chances are it will be the same.

The 29.99 specifies unlimited data the same way as the regular plan
http://b2b.vzw.com/productsservices...llingplans.html

And if you think about it, a 10 MB plan for 29.99 wouldn't make any sense since there is already a 10 MB BB plan for less than this!!

Posted by: jdougal

I guess I'm just going to pay full retail. I have a contract upgrade avaliable but for $30 it doesn't really seem worth it.

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by machpost

I wonder if there was another, preexisting data plan that was $29.99 and had a 10MB cap.

Yes and that's the one is still active, I've been told by 4-5 CSR's today that the $29.99 has a 10mb cap

I don't have a Biz plan so maybe that's where all the confusion is coming from?

Posted by: jdougal

Just had a chat with a CSR online.

"Please wait for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience!
A Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with tracie
You: Hello
tracie: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
You: Yes, can you explain the difference in data plans for Blackberrys
tracie: I'd be happy to help you with that.
You: Thank you
tracie: The difference is the Email plan will give unlimited data.
tracie: The Email and Messaging plan will give you unlimited data and unlimited messaging.
You: So "Email and Web for BlackBerry®" for $29.99/month gives you unlimited data?
tracie: No the unlimited data is offered on the voice and data plan.
tracie: You will have access to 10MB on the $29.99 plan.
You: Ok thank you very much. "

Posted by: pattwak

I talked to several reps yesterday and they all quoted unlimited BIS service for 29.99... also, full cost on the phone is 319.99... I'm ordering mine today!!!!

Posted by: machpost

So does anyone know what a "4 Pole" Stereo Headset means? Is it the type with a mic built in?

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdougal

Just had a chat with a CSR online.

"Please wait for a Verizon Wireless sales representative to assist you with your order. Thank you for your patience!
A Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with tracie
You: Hello
tracie: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
You: Yes, can you explain the difference in data plans for Blackberrys
tracie: I'd be happy to help you with that.
You: Thank you
tracie: The difference is the Email plan will give unlimited data.
tracie: The Email and Messaging plan will give you unlimited data and unlimited messaging.
You: So "Email and Web for BlackBerry®" for $29.99/month gives you unlimited data?
tracie: No the unlimited data is offered on the voice and data plan.
tracie: You will have access to 10MB on the $29.99 plan.
You: Ok thank you very much. "

It's fascinating how idiotic these Care reps are.

Posted by: jdougal

Placed my order, $356.98. I paid full retail and purchased a belt clip along with it. I can't wait.

Posted by: maxint

just spoke with an order rep... said nobody has asked about it yet... very surprising...

Posted by: bkw13

This is what I just found under my corp page:

Monthly
Charge Primary
line

BlackBerry

Blackberry Solution™ 10MB of Data Usage

$24.99 Add

Blackberry Solution™ Unlimited Data Usage

$44.99 Add

Email and Web for BlackBerry®

$29.99 Add

So they specifically describe the Blackberry solution of $24.99 for 10mb, the Blackberry Solution of $44.99 for unlimited, but list a 3rd option of "Email and Web for blackberry", but they don't say what that is.

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkw13

So they specifically describe the Blackberry solution of $24.99 for 10mb, the Blackberry Solution of $44.99 for unlimited, but list a 3rd option of "Email and Web for blackberry", but they don't say what that is.

I suppose we'll find out next week

Posted by: hamdude

Just got mine. $104... Can't get much better than that!

Quick question: I can't find the silver stand/charging dock in this picture anywhere. Anybody know what it is and where i can get one?
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...:en-US%26sa%3DN

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkw13

This is ridiculous! I spoke with a CSR and supervisor, and neither of them said they know anything of the $29.99 plan being unlimited, yet, on the website, it doesn't say whether it's 5 mb, 10, 20, or unlimited.

Here is the website that was posted in the calling plan change thread:

http://b2b.vzw.com/productsservices...llingplans.html

It clearly states the data as unlimited.

Posted by: bkw13

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Here is the website that was posted in the calling plan change thread:

http://b2b.vzw.com/productsservices...llingplans.html

Yes, but are these prices for everyone with a blackberry, or just for B2B customers?

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkw13

Yes, but are these prices for everyone with a blackberry, or just for B2B customers?

Everyone. When you go through the pre-sale process it asks you which you would like to choose.

0mie explained this previously. I don't know why everyone is freaking out. The website explains it and you can choose the option when you pre-order.

Posted by: Vatothe0

It's more for consumers actually. The new 29.99 plan will not work with BES.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vatothe0

It's more for consumers actually. The new 29.99 plan will not work with BES.

The feature is available to everyone is my point. He was asking if it is ONLY available to B2B customers.

I think it was established a long time ago in this thread and the calling plan change thread that no BES was included in the $29.99 plan.

If people don't understand that by now, they really must not have been doing their homework for the past month.

Posted by: machpost

The support page for the Pearl is now up on vzw.com: link.

Posted by: antiphon

I'm guessing the $29.99 plan is unlimited since it would clearly state in the terms what the charge is for usage over 10mb. I read over the terms and there is no mention of additional fees for usage over 10mb.

Posted by: akumason

Does the Advanaced Data Credit require a new 2 year contract term? Or can you apply it if you purchase the phone for retail price (no contract extension)?

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by akumason

Does the Advanaced Data Credit require a new 2 year contract term? Or can you apply it if you purchase the phone for retail price (no contract extension)?

All Advanced Data Credit information is found here:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=815388

Posted by: gadgtman

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamdude

Just got mine. $104... Can't get much better than that!

Quick question: I can't find the silver stand/charging dock in this picture anywhere. Anybody know what it is and where i can get one?
http://images.google.com/imgres?img...:en-US%26sa%3DN

$49.99 if you order over the phone on 11/8 (includes NE2, ADC and $50 mail-in rebate).

Posted by: akumason

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

All Advanced Data Credit information is found here:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=815388

Ahh, many thanks.

Posted by: Gabatta

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgtman

$49.99 if you order over the phone on 11/8 (includes NE2, ADC and $50 mail-in rebate).

So there is going to be a $50MIR available if you do not pre-order, but wait until the 8th; and it will only be available for phone orders? If this is the case, I can wait until the 8th and not pre-order. Does anyone have confirmation on this?

Posted by: jivemastert

What kind of text/pix messaging allowances does the 29.99 plan give you? It says it is "included" but does not tell you how many you can send to non-in people.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgtman

$49.99 if you order over the phone on 11/8 (includes NE2, ADC and $50 mail-in rebate).

you positive on that??? you think you can still apply for the rebate if you pre-ordeR?

Matt

Posted by: bkw13

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

I pre-ordered, the problem is, the $29.99 doesn't say "unlimited, nor does it say 10mb", it doesn't specify at all. However, the 44.99 plan does specify and says "unlimited". That's why everyone is freaking out. That, plus the fact that 2 CSR's and one supervisor all told me it was 10mb and they have no info regarding a 29.99 unlmtd plan.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkw13

It's unlimited. I've already seen the VISION codes and description.

Posted by: 0mie

Wirelessly posted (Omies enV: LGE-VX9900/1.0 UP.Browser/6.2.3.2 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkw13

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

If you are worried about it then dont order it and your dilema is solved. You can get it at a later date when you are 100000000% sure that its unlimited data.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by jivemastert

What kind of text/pix messaging allowances does the 29.99 plan give you? It says it is "included" but does not tell you how many you can send to non-in people.

TXT/PIX messaging basic is included. There is no unlimited IN messaging included. It's in the fine print at the bottom.

Per that same website:

"15¢ per text message sent or received (including messages to and from wireless customers in Canada, Mexico, and Puerto Rico). International Text Messaging is 15¢ per message received and 25¢ per message sent. Send and receive pictures and videos for 25¢ per message."

Posted by: bkw13

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

It's unlimited. I've already seen the VISION codes and description.

excellent, now that is real proof.

Posted by: earlmale

that translates to NO TXT/PIX allowance.

Posted by: jivemastert

Thanks LP. I was wondering what that was all about.

If I wanted IN txt/pix then I gotta add that on as well then I guess. I'm gonna make a new thread with my particular situation so I don't crap up this one.

Also I wanted to clarify - is there going to be a $50 mail in rebate after the phone is released? If so I'm just gonna wait.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by jivemastert

Thanks LP. I was wondering what that was all about.

If I wanted IN txt/pix then I gotta add that on as well then I guess. I'm gonna make a new thread with my particular situation so I don't crap up this one.

Also I wanted to clarify - is there going to be a $50 mail in rebate after the phone is released? If so I'm just gonna wait.

I'm pretty sure there is going to be a $50 MIR.

Posted by: 0mie

Wirelessly posted (Omies enV: LGE-VX9900/1.0 UP.Browser/6.2.3.2 (GUI) MMP/2.0)

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by jivemastert

I'm pretty sure there is going to be a $50 MIR.

Good things come to those who wait

but also those who want their phone first

and cant wait hehe

Posted by: Scientia

Quote:

Originally Posted by bkw13

I feel your pain... after about 5 CSR's I finally got somewhere

I was told that the $30 and $45 add on data plans on the internet are wrong and that they haven't updated the website yet, you have to call to get this updated plan.

The $45 unlimited plan is now $30 as everyone has stated, it's just not reflected on the website yet.

and Holy cow VZW needs to do a better job informing their employees

Cheaper BB plans = less CSR training?

Posted by: hamdude

Sorry to repost, but I was really hoping someone could help me out.

I'm looking for the silver dock in this picture, but I can't find it anywhere.
http://www.letsgomobile.org/en/2271...130-smartphone/

Anybody know where I could find one of these?

Posted by: TheHedonist

Yea, the business side telesales aren't any better. They're insisting I move off my old family share plan in order to upgrade, and they haven't heard of new BIS plan. If any of you reps can process b2b discounts, I'll be happy to give you the commission on a 3-line family plan plus BIS on the primary line.

Edit: Interestingly, he was offering me the Pearl for $50 with no rebates. But as you can see from the above, he hardly knew what he was talking about, so that's not necessarily the b2b price.

Posted by: Redflea

Why doesn't the description of the Pearl on the Verizon web site (http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...tedPhoneId=3296) say anything about WiFi support? Does "Broadband access connect capable" = WiFi, or ? Have I misunderstood, I thought the Pearl included WiFi.

Posted by: gadgtman

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxint

you positive on that??? you think you can still apply for the rebate if you pre-ordeR?

Matt

I was told today that phone reps can take orders on 11/8 and offer the additional $50MIR on top of the NE2 and ADC. I can wait a week for the extra $50. The $50 MIR is NOT available online.

Posted by: halfkorean

If you go to an authorized store they have new booklets out with the Pearl and I760. In a little graph it states that the $29.99 plan is available with a qualified voice plan and features unlimited data. If you have no voice plan then it is $39.99 with unlimited data. This is only for Blackberries and BIS, not BES.
Also if you preorder online it will give you the $100 ADC even if you current on a data plan. It will add it at the end. So if you have NE2 and ADD it will be $99 +tax.

Posted by: jseah

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redflea

Why doesn't the description of the Pearl on the Verizon web site say anything about WiFi support? Does "Broadband access connect capable" = WiFi, or ? Have I misunderstood, I thought the Pearl included WiFi.

From what I understand, the GSM model of the Pearl 2, the 8120, includes WiFi but does not include GPS. The CDMA model of the Pearl 2, the 8130, doesn't include WiFi, but includes GPS.

Posted by: Redflea

Quote:

Originally Posted by jseah

From what I understand, the GSM model of the Pearl 2, the 8120, includes WiFi but does not include GPS. The CDMA model of the Pearl 2, the 8130, doesn't include WiFi, but includes GPS.

That's too bad...I must have heard that backwards. Thanks...CSR chat just told me that none of their Blackberry phones have WiFi.

Posted by: dimabrook

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfkorean

If you go to an authorized store they have new booklets out with the Pearl and I760. In a little graph it states that the $29.99 plan is available with a qualified voice plan and features unlimited data. If you have no voice plan then it is $39.99 with unlimited data. This is only for Blackberries and BIS, not BES.
Also if you preorder online it will give you the $100 ADC even if you current on a data plan. It will add it at the end. So if you have NE2 and ADD it will be $99 +tax.

went all the way to the end of checkout, don't see an ADC for $100.
how did you get that?

Posted by: nittanyjack

It says this below in the bolded part of the official Verizon Press release?

Verizon Wireless Launches The First CDMA-Enabled Blackberry Pearl
The BlackBerry Pearl 8130 Smartphone Offers Voice, Data, Multimedia, Navigation and EV-DO Speed with Style

Media Contact Info

Brenda Raney
Brenda.Raney@VerizonWireless.com
908-559-7518

Marisa Conway
Brodeur for RIM
mconway@brodeur.com
212-515-1924

11/01/2007

BASKING RIDGE, NJ, and WATERLOO, Ontario — Verizon Wireless, the leading wireless company with the nation’s most reliable wireless voice and data network, and Research In Motion (RIM) (Nasdaq: RIMM; TSX: RIM), a global leader in wireless innovation, today announced the Nov. 3 online availability of the BlackBerry® Pearl™ 8130 at www.verizonwireless.com. The BlackBerry® Pearl™ 8130 will be in Verizon Wireless Communications stores on Nov. 8. For the customer who wants to balance work and play, the world's first CDMA-enabled BlackBerry Pearl gives Verizon Wireless customers wireless broadband connectivity to the office while enabling them to stay connected with family, friends and colleagues.

The new smartphone builds upon the highly acclaimed and iconic BlackBerry Pearl design with new features and functionality to provide customers with powerful communications, rich multimedia and support for high-speed EV-DO networks in a style that goes from day to evening in one slim and small package.

Available to Verizon Wireless customers in an exclusive silver color and backed by the power of the nation’s most reliable wireless voice and data network, the BlackBerry Pearl 8130 offers powerful communications with premium phone features, e-mail and messaging and more. With its built-in navigation capability, the BlackBerry Pearl 8130 can take customers wherever they want to go with mapping, audible turn-by-turn navigation and access to information on more than 14 million points of interest. In addition, the BlackBerry Pearl offers the following capabilities and features:

Wireless broadband (EV-DO) connectivity for high-speed data transfers, perfect for fast Web browsing and downloading large attachments
A sleek, compact design in an exclusive silver color finish; measures 4.2” x 2.0” x .55” and weighs only 3.4 oz
Open and view e-mail attachments with support for the most popular formats
Premium phone features including Voice Activated Dialing, speakerphone and noise and echo cancellation technology for clearer calls
2.0 megapixel camera, with flash and 5x zoom, able to record video
Video and picture messaging capable Built-in navigation to support the location-based application, VZ NavigatorSM, developed by Networks in Motion, with map data provided by Navteq
Advanced media player and enhanced desktop media manager software allowing a customer to easily manage music and pictures between their PC and the BlackBerry Pearl 8130
3.5 mm stereo headphone included in the box
Externally accessible microSD™/SDHC memory card slot for additional storage (up to 8 GB)
An enhanced user interface with new font-rendering technology that makes text easier to read and Web pages visually richer
Enhanced Web browser delivering a fast, rich browser experience and support for streaming video from sites like m.youtube.com (3GPP RTSP streaming protocol over EV-DO)
SureType® keyboard technology that makes typing and dialing fast and easy and includes a new word completion capability, easier editing of misspelled words, and built-in spell checker
Bluetooth® 2.0 in support of hands-free headsets, stereo headsets (Bluetooth stereo audio profile A2DP/AVRCP), car kits and other Bluetooth accessories
A removable and rechargeable battery, rated for up to 220 minutes of talk time and up to 216 hours of standby time
The BlackBerry Pearl 8130 will be available online and in Verizon Wireless Communications Stores, including those in Circuit City, for $249.99 after a $50 mail-in rebate with a new two-year customer agreement. With the launch of the BlackBerry Pearl, Verizon Wireless is also introducing new Nationwide E-mail and Web for BlackBerry customers providing them with unlimited data for an additional $29.99 per month on top of a voice plan. Customers who choose a data only plan pay $34.99 per month. Both plans provide access up to 10 POP3 and IMAP e-mail accounts via BlackBerry® Internet Service.

For more information on BlackBerry smartphones and to pre-order the BlackBerry Pearl 8130, visit www.verizonwireless.com. Business customers should contact a Verizon Wireless Business Sales Representative directly at 1-800-VZW-4-BIZ.

About Verizon Wireless
Verizon Wireless operates the nation’s most reliable wireless voice and data network, serving 63.7 million customers. The largest U.S. wireless company and largest wireless data provider, based on revenues, Verizon Wireless is headquartered in Basking Ridge, N.J., with 68,000 employees nationwide. The company is a joint venture of Verizon Communications (NYSE: VZ) and Vodafone (NYSE and LSE: VOD). Find more information on the Web at www.verizonwireless.com. To preview and request broadcast-quality video footage and high-resolution stills of Verizon Wireless operations, log on to the Verizon Wireless Multimedia Library at www.verizonwireless.com/multimedia.

About Research In Motion (RIM)
Research In Motion is a leading designer, manufacturer and marketer of innovative wireless solutions for the worldwide mobile communications market. Through the development of integrated hardware, software and services that support multiple wireless network standards, RIM provides platforms and solutions for seamless access to time-sensitive information including email, phone, SMS messaging, Internet and intranet-based applications. RIM technology also enables a broad array of third party developers and manufacturers to enhance their products and services with wireless connectivity to data. RIM’s portfolio of award-winning products, services and embedded technologies are used by thousands of organizations around the world and include the BlackBerry® wireless platform, the RIM Wireless Handheld™ product line, software development tools, radio-modems and software/hardware licensing agreements. Founded in 1984 and based in Waterloo, Ontario, RIM operates offices in North America, Europe and Asia Pacific. RIM is listed on the Nasdaq Stock Market (Nasdaq: RIMM) and the Toronto Stock Exchange (TSX: RIM). For more information, visit www.rim.com or www.blackberry.com.

Forward-looking statements in this news release are made pursuant to the "safe harbor" provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. When used herein, words such as "intend" and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are based on assumptions made by and information available to Research In Motion Limited. Investors are cautioned that such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements include, without limitation, possible product defects and product liability, risks related to international sales and potential foreign currency exchange fluctuations, the initiation or outcome of litigation, acts or potential acts of terrorism, international conflicts, significant fluctuations of quarterly operating results, changes in Canadian and foreign laws and regulations, continued acceptance of RIM's products, increased levels of competition, technological changes and the successful development of new products, dependence on third-party networks to provide services, dependence on intellectual property rights, and other risks and factors detailed from time to time in RIM's periodic reports filed with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission, and other regulatory authorities. RIM has no intention or obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

The BlackBerry and RIM families of related marks, images and symbols are the exclusive properties and trademarks of Research In Motion Limited. RIM, Research In Motion and BlackBerry are registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and may be pending or registered in other countries. All other brands, product names, company names, trademarks and service marks are the properties of their respective owners. RIM assumes no liability and makes no representation, warranty or guarantee in relation to third party products or services.

Posted by: halfkorean

When I went to choose a phone it told me I may qualify for the ADD so I picked the phone and the $29.99 plan and then wehn i went to the summary page it had the credit on it and I accepted the order. I already have the unlimited data plan on my I730 and it still offered it to me. I was just checking because when I went to the store to check and try to order my phone and they said they couldnt order it yet from them and they told me I couldn't use the ADD.

Posted by: ChrisRichey

The new business/pda brochures state that the unlimited BIS plans are $29.99.

Posted by: jsprewell

the shipping says 2-5 days. is that 2-5 days after the 8th or is verizon going to overnight them?

Posted by: jdougal

For some reason when I ordered I did not get offered the Advance Device Credit (I paid full retail). Now I just went into my account and was playing around with another number on my family plan. On that account I can upgrade at the reduced price for a contract extension for 299. Now for this number it is offering me the Advance Device Credit. Can someone please explain this? Is there a way to get the credit on the order I already placed? I did not previously have a data plan on either account and during my order today I added the 29.99 plan.

Posted by: 0mie

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsprewell

the shipping says 2-5 days. is that 2-5 days after the 8th or is verizon going to overnight them?

They will ship Nov. 7 overnight so you have them on the Nov. 8 launch.

Posted by: cellularsales

hopefully mine gets here tomorrow and i'll post some pics for everyone.

Posted by: evanmh

The pre order site says avail. online the 8th but the press release says the 3rd. Does anyone know which it is?

Posted by: halfkorean

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdougal

For some reason when I ordered I did not get offered the Advance Device Credit (I paid full retail). Now I just went into my account and was playing around with another number on my family plan. On that account I can upgrade at the reduced price for a contract extension for 299. Now for this number it is offering me the Advance Device Credit. Can someone please explain this? Is there a way to get the credit on the order I already placed? I did not previously have a data plan on either account and during my order today I added the 29.99 plan.

It can only be applied to the main line of the account.

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Demo Unit in hand... it is NOT active yet.. rep told me it will be in a day or two.. This came right from RIM to Verizon Rep to me... has Property of Research in Motion and Evaluation stickers on it...

RIM OS = v4.3.0.60 (Platform 3.1.0.32)

First impression... its slightly heavier than the GSM pearl but not enough to mind it....

Voice Notes Recorder, and Video Recorder are new...

The MicroSD slot is on the side instead of under the battery the way the GSM is, but the cover looks like it might "break off" easy...

I do like the predictive typing a lot better than the GSM pearl... it works better, and the possible word list is a DROP DOWN list that shows more choices than the side by side of the GSM pearl.

Screen just as Clear and easy to read.

Not sure if this is "release firmware" as no VZNav on it... then again.. we'll have to see when its active if it comes down like the browser icons and setup personal email icons do...

keyboard is more "sculptured" than the GSM... but this is nice to type on.. keys are responsive, but slightly "loose" (i.e. the wiggle)...

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellularsales

hopefully mine gets here tomorrow and i'll post some pics for everyone.

Yeah, I'll have mine tomorrow as well.....

Posted by: mick4394

I don't know if this even means anything, but I checked the status of my order, and it says that I should receive my order within 2-3 days. They have also charged my credit card which they wouldn't do until the order shipped.

So, what do you guys think? Will I get my Pearl early, or did they charge my card early?

Posted by: mattag29

My account is not showing the $100 off, and is also not showing it as a pre-order. It is showing a $50.00 mail in rebate now.

I am on the 60.00 per month family plan with one extra line, if I change that plan to a more expensive one will I get the $100 off?

Posted by: FAUguy

Once the phone come out, we'll have the Official Release Thread.

Posted by: nittanyjack

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

I don't know if this even means anything, but I checked the status of my order, and it says that I should receive my order within 2-3 days. They have also charged my credit card which they wouldn't do until the order shipped.

So, what do you guys think? Will I get my Pearl early, or did they charge my card early?

I just ordered 5 minutes ago and have the same information. If you go to the Verizon website to order, it is not a preorder item anymore.

Posted by: mick4394

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

I just ordered 5 minutes ago and have the same information. If you go to the Verizon website to order, it is not a preorder item anymore.

Nice. I wonder if we're going to be a bunch of happy Pearl owners a week earlier than we thought.

Posted by: vrs626

Quote:

Originally Posted by mick4394

Nice. I wonder if we're going to be a bunch of happy Pearl owners a week earlier than we thought.

Looks like it. I just looked on the site and it says nothing about pre-orders. Weird.

Posted by: maxint

Quote:

Originally Posted by vrs626

Looks like it. I just looked on the site and it says nothing about pre-orders. Weird.

wow.. switched out the online $50 discount and put a MIR instead.. bizarre!!! there an "advanced device" credit also???

Posted by: liquidplatinum

I called customer care around 7am and had them overnight it. Totally avoided the whole pre-order. She said the $50 MIR would be in the box as well.

Cost me $3.75 after MIR.

Posted by: mbpyro

http://products.vzw.com/index.aspx?...ext&phone=pearl

It now reads: "Now available online, Available in stores 11/8"

I'm thinking this might have been decided earlier today, when they saw the flood of pre-orders comming in and decided if they held them in a queue for a week, they were gonna kill themselves come next week when they had to ship em all out.

Posted by: dikiem

I assume this doesn't have REV A. EVDO on it huh...

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by dikiem

I assume this doesn't have REV A. EVDO on it huh...

Nope. No Rev A. I'm pretty sure the XV6800 is still going to be the first Rev A VZW device.

Posted by: ScottPV

Quote:

Originally Posted by nittanyjack

I just ordered 5 minutes ago and have the same information. If you go to the Verizon website to order, it is not a preorder item anymore.

I ordered this morning and just received shipping confirmation for two day delivery. It will arrive on Monday.

Posted by: Null_Query

A Verizon Wireless online pre-sales specialist has joined the chat. You are now chatting with Crystal
You: It seems as though the 8130 is now available online if i order tonight when will it arrive
Crystal: Hello. Thank you for visiting our chat service. May I help you with your order today?
Crystal: I'd be happy to help you with that.
Crystal: That phone is currently available for preorder.
Crystal: It will be released Nov. 6.

Posted by: x ray tech

Mine is coming Monday as well.

Posted by: dikiem

Quote:

Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Nope. No Rev A. I'm pretty sure the XV6800 is still going to be the first Rev A VZW device.

The VX6800 doesn't look too bad, could be thinner though would be nice...

Posted by: FAUguy

So the Pre-Orders lasted only a few hours, weird!

Posted by: liquidplatinum

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAUguy

So the Pre-Orders lasted only a few hours, weird!

Could possibly be the most pointless VZW marketing ploy I've seen yet....

Posted by: curtisdr

So is the deal on the phone now, since it's not pre-order, any different then it was this morning? I can't tell since I've already ordered.

Posted by: Null_Query

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Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

Demo Unit in hand... it is NOT active yet.. rep told me it will be in a day or two.. This came right from RIM to Verizon Rep to me... has Property of Research in Motion and Evaluation stickers on it...

RIM OS = v4.3.0.60 (Platform 3.1.0.32)

First impression... its slightly heavier than the GSM pearl but not enough to mind it....

Voice Notes Recorder, and Video Recorder are new...

The MicroSD slot is on the side instead of under the battery the way the GSM is, but the cover looks like it might "break off" easy...

I do like the predictive typing a lot better than the GSM pearl... it works better, and the possible word list is a DROP DOWN list that shows more choices than the side by side of the GSM pearl.

Screen just as Clear and easy to read.

Not sure if this is "release firmware" as no VZNav on it... then again.. we'll have to see when its active if it comes down like the browser icons and setup personal email icons do...

keyboard is more "sculptured" than the GSM... but this is nice to type on.. keys are responsive, but slightly "loose" (i.e. the wiggle)...

Hey Mark,

How about a little more info on the phone. Such as how's the camera? have you taken any pictures, if so can you post them? Even though the service isnt active can you tell any initial differences in the browser? Any other changes worth discussing, compared to the 8830?

Posted by: Scientia

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Originally Posted by nittanyjack

I just ordered 5 minutes ago and have the same information. If you go to the Verizon website to order, it is not a preorder item anymore.

So can I call CS to order it now then? Or do I still have to wait?

Edit: I have to call CS to order my phone because of some "misunderstandings" on my account

Posted by: x ray tech

I just called customer service and the rep said that anyone that pre ordered can get the 50 dollar rebate, and that the form should come with the phone.

Posted by: liquidplatinum

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Originally Posted by Null_Query

Are you being sarcastic or serious? I'm sure when he has it fully operational and has used it throughly he'll give a more in-depth review.

Posted by: cash banquet

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Originally Posted by x ray tech

I just called customer service and the rep said that anyone that pre ordered can get the 50 dollar rebate, and that the form should come with the phone.

that is spectacular news! i just ordered online and i can't wait to get this phone. thanks to all on hofo who provide info and insight.

Posted by: WebBull

""Your Verizon Wireless Shipment Notification (Order #194xxx)""

Shipped today FedEx. Anyone who preordered this morning should have it tomorrow

EDIT: Actually it was shipped FedEx 2day so I won't have it until Monday

but that is still better than Thursday

Posted by: Null_Query

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Originally Posted by liquidplatinum

Are you being sarcastic or serious? I'm sure when he has it fully operational and has used it throughly he'll give a more in-depth review.

Mostly sarcastic, i am completely surprised that everyone hasnt started hounding him for some more informatiom..... I will be patiently waiting just like the rest for a full review.....

My delimma is that a co-worker is going to be buying my 8830 from me for $300 which id perfect i'll only be shelling out about $350 full retail for the pearl. The thing is is that she is wanting my phone asap, but i am leaving on the 6th at 8:00am for a flight to NC for my company, i will not be returning until the 14th which i fear if i wait till the 14th to sell her the phone she will have already gotten another one then there goes my $300 to pay for the pearl. But i cant be witout my blackberry while im away.... So if i order tonight do you think that i will get the phone in time for my trip or not???

I know others are saying they will get theirs monday, but can i really count on that?

Posted by: curtisdr

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Originally Posted by x ray tech

I just called customer service and the rep said that anyone that pre ordered can get the 50 dollar rebate, and that the form should come with the phone.

Great news!

Posted by: jdougal

Ship date
Nov 1, 2007

Estimated delivery
Nov 5, 2007 by 4:30 PM

Destination
MD

Service type
FedEx 2Day Service

Status
Picked up

Wohoooooo

Posted by: 0mie

The extra phones I ordered should be here tomorrow

Posted by: Mark_Venture

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Originally Posted by Null_Query

Just got home from work...

No I haven't taken pictures yet... Not allowed to use cameras or the camera in phones while on my work's campus...

Browser differences?? Um, no. becuase the Browser icon is not there until the phone is activated and registered on Verizon's network and the service books come down...

I have been typing test messages and such on it... It is WAY BETTER than my GSM pearl. Keyboard is more comfortable and the prediction is more accurate (and I even edit the custom word list on my GSM pearl)...

WOW... they just keep making sure type better and better!!!! The 8100 was better than the 7100, and the 8130 is better than the 8100.

Themes are the same as the 8830, PLUS there is a BB Dimension L theme... Think of it as the standard verizon theme from the 8830 with 5 icons along the bottom, but ALSO 5 icons down the left side...

Extra option under Screen/Keyboard... Menu Style... choices are Short Menu and Full Menu... When set to Short, pressing in on Ball gives "Short Menu"... when set to full... pressing Ball gives Full menu... NICE... Force of habit has been press ball and get menu (because of using thumb wheel for so long), so this helps

Using the Voice Notes Recorder Icon on home screen Records only... to play back, go into the Media application which gives you choices for Music, Video, Ring Tones, Pictures and Voice Notes.

File Total: 50462720
File Free: 12240104

New thing... Under Options -> Security Options... is Memory Cleaning... Not sure exactly what it does, since BB's have always had a built in memory manager.

that is all I can say until I can activate this device...

Posted by: Kopeke

sorry for asking again, but the $29 plan DOES included unlimited data?

Posted by: mick4394

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Originally Posted by Kopeke

sorry for asking again, but the $29 plan DOES included unlimited data?

Yes. The BIS plan is unlimited.

Posted by: Nthach

OK guys, VZW gave me a free 8830 was a winback and do I have to give up the 8830 for the Pearl?

Posted by: WebBull

I pre ordered this morning and paid $99 for my Pearl (which I am thrilled about) based on the following:

$299 on-line price
-$100 on-line discount
-$100 ADC

Does this mean that my NE2 was never applied and will be available in the future ?

Posted by: Mark_Venture

Just wanted to say...

I can't test if GPS is fully operational or VZNav Only until I can activate

Options -> Advanced Options -> GPS...

GPS Data Source: Device GPS (no other choice!)
GPS Services: Location On or 911 Only

There are NO services books on this device except Verizon Wireless [WAP] so what I can do with it until I can activate it is limited. Sorry.

I have to wait until RIM sets up the 30 day test account. If this wasn't a Demo/Loaner Unit, I'd activate on my line...

PS: VZW CC issued unit is on the way, which I Can/Will activate on my account, as it will be MINE to keep

Posted by: machpost

Quote:

Originally Posted by WebBull

""Your Verizon Wireless Shipment Notification (Order #194xxx)
EDIT: Actually it was shipped FedEx 2day so I won't have it until Monday

but that is still better than Thursday

Same here. Left West Chester, PA at 6:23 PM and is scheduled to arrive on Monday by 7 PM.

Does anyone know if there is an easy way to get the contacts from my Nokia 6236i onto this thing? I've successfully exported them all to .vcf format with Nokia PC Suite, so I would hope there is an easy way to port them to the Pearl, since that is a standard format. I'm assuming that BlackBerrys don't have Get It Now, so Backup Assistant isn't going to be any help.

Posted by: Mark_Venture

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Originally Posted by machpost

If you can import the .vcf's into outlook.. no problem

Use the included Blackberry desktop manager to sync your outlook contacts with the Pearl.

Posted by: vrs626

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Originally Posted by WebBull

I pre ordered this morning and paid $99 for my Pearl (which I am thrilled about) based on the following:

$299 on-line price
-$100 on-line discount
-$100 ADC

Does this mean that my NE2 was never applied and will be available in the future ?

There's an online discount also? Is that in addition to the ADD and NE2? Am I missing something or would it be free with the online discount, ADD, and NE2? Or does the online discount not apply with the NE2?

Posted by: jdougal

I purchased online and didn't get an online discount :-(

Posted by: ata100

does anyone know when it will be available on the employee discount site?

Posted by: havaloc

I'm getting prices of $249 on a one year on the standard upgrade site, and $299 for a two year (which is conveniently discounted with NE2 down to $199). Other phones are not priced backwards like the 8130 is (the rest are all cheaper on a 2-yr before discount than the 1-yr).