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Posted by: ThorBlaze Dragon

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according to boygeniusreport and engadgetmobile
it also shows the pics with at&t/Cingular logos

Posted by: ceebz

And I'm sure it will be the wifi-less version.

Damn you Cingular, damn you.

Posted by: ThorBlaze Dragon

more pics of 8300

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...ry-8300-lineup/

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There has been a little bit of confusion with the 8300 series and I just got some new info from one of my sources to try and clear things up. Please note before we begin that device specs and hardware do change before final production, but this is most likely very accurate. I reported here that the unit I have had GPS. It has a GPS option in the options menu, yet doesn't work because this unit apparently doesn't have GPS hardware. There has been talk about T-Mobile 8300 test devices with GPS and WiFi built in. Why the drama? Well, here we go! There are 3, yes 3 versions of the 8300. The 8300, 8320, and 83xx. Code names are Baby Bear, Mama Bear, and finally Papa Bear respectively. My unit is code named "Baby Bear" hence no GPS and WiFi (please no comments from the peanut gallery). Why RIM would go to such outlandish lengths to ever confuse the consumer with 3 more variations of the same model is beyond me — one 8300 device guys. Also don't confuse the 8320 with the 8820 which will be the regular 8800-style device except with WiFi. I completely agree with RIM's strategy to differentiate the business oriented lines, and consumer lines as much as possible. I really do. Releasing the 8800 first after the Pearl was a great idea — show that you didn't leave the corporate and business market behind. Enter the 8300. Great! But why RIM. Why Jim? Why Mike? Can't you release just one 8300! Quick rundown below.

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8800 (No Camera, GPS)
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8820 (No Camera but WiFi and GPS)
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8300 (Camera, no WiFi, no GPS)
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8320 (Camera, WiFi)
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83xx (Camera, WiFi, GPS)
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9xxx (Don't get me started)

Confused? Bewildered? Crying yourself to sleep? Welcome to the world of RIM.

the pics and article above are under courtesy of boygeniusreport and engadgetmobile

Posted by: luv2chat

Does anyone know if it will be offered in different colours?

Posted by: Mr. Bond

That can't be a picture of the 8300; I thought it had the keys spaced apart?!?!

Posted by: .7

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Originally Posted by AccessCellular

That can't be a picture of the 8300; I thought it had the keys spaced apart?!?!

Agreed, that is not the Cingular version thats in testing.

However, supposedly there are 3 different variants of the 8300, some w/wifi and GPS and some without.

Posted by: 120yz

and unfortunately no 3G

Posted by: KingJ2002

yea... it's this one that's coming.

Posted by: FarSeide

yumiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted by: Tjash2010

if it was designed and styled more after the 8800 I would defiently get this. But I dont like the design at all, and the keybaord to me look's like a Treo's keyboard. I think I will just wait til the 8900 series, that cant be TOO far off.

I defiently think ATT has done something for Cingular, and I think with ATT now in charge the 8900 series will be out asap.

Posted by: I have a phone

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and I think with ATT now in charge the 8900 series will be out asap.

say what?

Posted by: Tjash2010

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say what?

Well I mean, Att has just been good about getting the latest phones when they are announced.

I am not exactly saying they will, I am just guessing

Posted by: The Champ

8900??? There has been mentions of 89xx series?

Posted by: Tjash2010

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8900??? There has been mentions of 89xx series?

ahh! thanks for pointing out my mistake, I meant the 9000 series.

Posted by: maevro

Oh how I would have loved them to release this phone with 3G.

Posted by: ceebz

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Originally Posted by maevro

Oh how I would have loved them to release this phone with 3G.

Why? Browsing on a Blackberry with EDGE is just as fast (for me) as browsing on EVDO with Sprint. Until the media-centric streaming apps start releasing for Blackberry OS, I see no real benefit from 3G on a Blackberry.

Posted by: 120yz

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I tried both Blackberry 8100 EDGE and BlackJack 3G, noticed a little bit of a difference, i.e. Blackjack is faster, but not by a whole lot faster. so yes, 3G would be nice if released by RIM

Posted by: Sylar

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...and the keybaord to me look's like a Treo's keyboard.

I have to think that was a conscious decision on RIM's part to steal even more market share while Palm twists in the wind. If this were released, as a Treo 700p owner and fan, I would port for it. They keyboard would just make the transition that much more easy. It's nice to see some media functionality in a BB for the non-industrial clientele. I need a pda for work, yet I like to play with features during down time. BB's have yet to offer such to this point. Now they are, and I love it.

Posted by: MI_canuck

How soon can we expect the 8300/8320/83XX ? I think I'd be perhaps thinking of dumping the 8525 and sacrificing 3G in favor of an 8320 or 83xx (something at least w/ wi-fi).

peace

Posted by: Fresh DRL

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...t-within-weeks/ looks like April potentially

Posted by: Jayden0606

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Originally Posted by maevro

Oh how I would have loved them to release this phone with 3G.

It's coming out this year... don't worry.

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I defiently think ATT has done something for Cingular, and I think with ATT now in charge the 8900 series will be out asap.

Same company different name. Besides Cingular/ATT didn't have many delays after "officially" announcing a release. Everyone would come up with their own release dates and when it didn't come out on these "make believe" dates, "they always delay their phones!"

Posted by: Fresh DRL

I always thought BG was somewhat reliable in his articles, although it does mention that things COULD change. I'm gonna put my money on in April.

Posted by: .7

I will have one of these...oh yes, I will....

Posted by: Fresh DRL

I just HATE the color. Wish it were black.

Posted by: I have a phone

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Originally Posted by Fresh DRL

I always thought BG was somewhat reliable in his articles, although it does mention that things COULD change. I'm gonna put my money on in April.

as reliable as the data he's fed, nothing more

Posted by: .7

I really want this thing to have GPS and video record.

That keyboard should have been on the 8800. For a device that looks thinner than the 8800, it sure has a nicer keyboard.

Posted by: Jayden0606

I'm in love with my 8700. If the 8300 has a better keypad, camera and memory card slot being a plus, I may think about it. If not, I'll wait for the 3G device that will be coming out this year. The only thing is that I really don't like the trackball. That is why I returned my Pearl as it was starting to hurt my thumb after long periods of use.

Posted by: Outrigger

There are comparison shots between the 8300 and 8800 on the BGR site, its actually a tad thicker and shorter than the 8800, so don't expect it to be thinner. I'll be waiting for the 9xxx due out later this year which will have a completely new UI interface and 3G. The current UI is already very old.

Posted by: Fresh DRL

Its coming very soon: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...ngular-goodies/

I can't wait! I have a 8800 but I think I'm gonna trade it in!

Posted by: Mr. Bond

I'll be interested to see what it looks like in person. From the pictures, it doesn't interest me greatly, but I'll be sure to test it as soon as they hit stores.

Posted by: plz_kill_me

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No Wifi, GPS or 3G-- I'm not even interested anymore.

Posted by: GregGebhardt

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Originally Posted by .7

I really want this thing to have GPS and video record.

That keyboard should have been on the 8800. For a device that looks thinner than the 8800, it sure has a nicer keyboard.

There is NO GPS, but provision to connect to an external GPS. You do get a 2mp camera with flash

Posted by: ceebz

So, any word on a release date for this puppy?

Posted by: bkw13

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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt

There is NO GPS, but provision to connect to an external GPS. You do get a 2mp camera with flash

2mp camera? I thought it was 1.3 megapixel?

Posted by: cmatthews

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2mp camera? I thought it was 1.3 megapixel?

Nope, it's a 2.0 megapixel.

Posted by: bkw13

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Nope, it's a 2.0 megapixel.

Yup, i just saw that on www.blackberrycurve.com. Guess I'm behind.

Posted by: Got1RunninRadio

I assuming PTT?

Posted by: GregGebhardt

We tried Cingulars PTT. Did not work well for use. Kinda Mickey Mouse after using Nextel

Posted by: davistld01

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yea... it's this one that's coming.

Whew...

Scared me for a second. This is the phone I am looking forward to...if I go Blackberry next.

Posted by: KlamshellKing

is it just me, or does this look like one of the best phones ever?

or have i forgotten edge speeds?

Posted by: BVilly

New to the BB community - do these phones have some type of AOL/AIM instant messaging application?

Posted by: KlamshellKing

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Originally Posted by BVilly

New to the BB community - do these phones have some type of AOL/AIM instant messaging application?

Yeah, i think you can download IM+ or something from handango. Goto handangos site, and see what you can download

Posted by: thaasiccest13

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New to the BB community - do these phones have some type of AOL/AIM instant messaging application?

JiveTalk is free and is the BEST!!!!

Posted by: br0nx finest

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JiveTalk is free and is the BEST!!!!

agreed.

Posted by: .7

Word on the street is that if all goes well it should be out be the very end of the month.

Posted by: plz_kill_me

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I'm so addicted.

Posted by: plz_kill_me

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No Wifi, GPS or 3G-- I'm not even interested anymore.

I'm still interested.

Posted by: davistld01

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I'm still interested.

Me too...if Cingular doesn't hurry up and get some N75's back in stock, and get one on the plane to me...I'm waiting for the 8300.

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You do know the device is to be released tomorrow, right?

Posted by: davistld01

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You do know the device is to be released tomorrow, right?

No, actually every reliable word I have heard points more towards the 24th...or later this month even. Where are you getting your information?

Posted by: .7

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You do know the device is to be released tomorrow, right?

......doubtful

Posted by: plz_kill_me

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I was told by a business care rep that they are to recieve 9600 units today.

Posted by: .7

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I was told by a business care rep that they are to recieve 9600 units today.

Its not on Premier but lets hope it gets released this week. Im getting surgery this week to ill need something to keep me entertained for a couple of days.

Posted by: davistld01

Just talked to a AT&T Business Services CSR and asked about when the heck I could expect my N75...and told her that if I wasn't going to get it for another weeks (waiting for more stock...), then I would go with the 8300. She told me that she had a price on her sheet to be effective this Friday...but she would not share it with me, although I tried...

So...maybe Friday release?

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Expect a review shortly.

Posted by: davistld01

Has anyone checked today to see about availability...? I am dangerously close to blowing off the N75 (too many issues are surfacing) and going with the 8300...although as a backup, it may be overkill.

Posted by: dstaysniak

In the Cleveland, OH market a Cingular store manager left me a VM on Monday 5/21 saying that their latest update on the Curve was that it's wouldn't be available until the end of July.

Posted by: ChgoMike

I called Cingular's B2B this morning at 877-201-9521. They had no idea of anything, other than a Q2 release.

Posted by: davistld01

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I called Cingular's B2B this morning at 877-201-9521. They had no idea of anything, other than a Q2 release.

What's up with the Q2 release?

Posted by: ataq

i loathe the ever adjusting release dates

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The boy genius stating a release at the end of the week.

Posted by: davistld01

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The boy genius stating a release at the end of the week.

I just got off the phone with Cingular...and they have no idea about the shipping date of my N75...so if the Curve is released at the end of the week...I'll be a new Blackberry owner!!!

Posted by: GregGebhardt

Looks like the Curve has been delayed and will not be out till after the first week in June <sad>

Posted by: iav122003

Any dibs on the Curve release?

Posted by: br0nx finest

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Any dibs on the Curve release?

dude..

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Looks like the Curve has been delayed and will not be out till after the first week in June <sad>

Posted by: davistld01

Called Cingular/AT&T Business Services today...and the CSR said it was not on his "release list". But...suprisingly enough...the iPhone was, but there was no price or date given. He was shocked that the 8300 wasn't mentioned...but the iPhone was.

Weird.

Posted by: maevro

I doubt the Curve will be delayed from the June 7th date as thats Blackberry & AT&T's launch party date. I would like to know where exactly in NYC it is as I want to crash it.

I am so torn with this phone.

Posted by: BB Junkie

From The Boy Genius Report

BlackBerry Curve to Launch May 31

Exclusive to AT&T for at least 90 days after launch.

AT&T will launch the full-featured and much anticipated BlackBerry Curve on May 31 in all distribution channels. The BlackBerry Curve is exclusive to AT&T for at least 90 days after launch and is the smallest, lightest full QWERTY BlackBerry yet offered. It combines a compact design with many new features and broad international coverage.

With an exclusive, liquid silver finish and new trackball navigation system, the Curve is the first BlackBerry device to support AT&T Mobile Music, an enhanced media player, support for stereo Bluetooth headsets and a 3.5 mm headset jack. The device also features a 2-megapixel camera. The Curve is the first BlackBerry to offer spell-checker for e-mail, AT&T Push-to-Talk, TeleNav Maps and the AT&T Mall feature for purchasing ring tones and downloads.
The Curve offers support for phone, BES/BIS e-mail access, text messaging, Web browser, organizer, corporate data applications and more.

The quad-band BlackBerry Curve gives customers the ability to make phone calls in more than 190 countries and access e-mail and other data applications in 130 countries. All AT&T BlackBerry devices enjoy this advantage, giving the company the largest portfolio of BlackBerry products with global roaming capabilities of any U.S. carrier.

Special Note on Product Packaging at Launch

The BlackBerry Curve may also be identified as the BlackBerry 8300 on packaging and in-box materials for up to 30 days after launch.
Accessory packaging may have the BlackBerry 8300 designation for several months after launch. Please note these names refer to the same product. But in all customer-facing marketing materials (advertising, Web, merchandising), the BlackBerry Curve name will be used.

Other product highlights:

Dimensions: 4.21 inches x 2.36 inches x .61 inches; weight: 3.93 oz .
Excellent battery life: up to four hours talk time, up to 17 days standby time.
Supports expandable MicroSD memory.
Powerful 312 MHz processor.
BlackBerry Messaging ("IM-like" messaging to other BB devices).

Pricing

BlackBerry Curve will launch with a $100 instant rebate in BMG channels:

No Commitment - $449.99

One-Year Contract without $100 rebate - 374.99

One-Year Contract with $100 rebate - $274.99

Two-Year Contract without $100 rebate - $299.99

Best Price (two-year unlimited + $39.99 voice) - $199.99

Posted by: PauLiE BoY

sweeeet packing up my 8800 and doing buyers remorse for this baby on the 31st! thanks for the update

Posted by: .7

With the mention of telenav I would hope in includes GPS but Im sure it doesnt.

If it did it would have more features than the 8800 for less and that woudlnt make a whole lot of sense.

I will have one the day its released you can count on it.

Posted by: davistld01

I spoke to an AT&T Business Tech. Services guy last night on the phone and he assured me that tomorrow, 5/31 was indeed the 8300 Curve launch date. He even read me the corporate memo that everyone had...

So...tomorrow, looks like I will be a first-time Blackberry owner.

Posted by: That70sGAdawg

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Originally Posted by PauLiE BoY

sweeeet packing up my 8800 and doing buyers remorse for this baby on the 31st! thanks for the update

I was considering this also. But, what do I gain (the 8300 has camera and is .70 oz. lighter) and what do I lose (the 8800 has GPS, longer battery life, and is actually slimmer than the 8300 Curve)??
This is a tough one. Any other pros and cons?

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by That70sGAdawg

From what I can tell: better keypad with more key spacing for easier use, a non-fingetprint magnet finish, perhaps a slight OS update...and perhaps a build-quality upgrade from the 8100 and 8800 as well.

Any more?

Posted by: dispatcher307

If any Cingular corporate employees have a product code, please PM me. My sales rep has the sheet on it but no code. Thanks.

Posted by: BVilly

I just called 2 different stores in NYC who both stated they do not have a release date for the Curve. Why do AT&T employees not know about this press release yet? Could AT&T be that late in conveying the message to its stores?

Posted by: dispatcher307

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Originally Posted by BVilly

I just called 2 different stores in NYC who both stated they do not have a release date for the Curve. Why do AT&T employees not know about this press release yet? Could AT&T be that late in conveying the message to its stores?

Probably. My sales rep had an email which she forwarded. It looks like she got it around 10:45 AM EST today.

Posted by: Extremevl

We received the purchase order for the Blackberry Curve (8300) last night and we should have them sometime Friday morning from UPS, it takes 2 days for shipping.

It will cost $399.99 full retail, or $249.99 with a 2-year contract and you also get a $50.00 mail-in rebate with the Blackberry personal internet package or higher Blackberry package which will make it $199.99 after mail-in rebate.

We have the demo in stock and it is super small and thin. I don't know what some people are talking about when they say that the 8800 is small, thinner or weights less, that isn't true at all. It's just as thin as the 8800 but smaller in length and the keyboard is what I would call an upgrade to the pervious 8700c model. Me and my manager put this phone up to the BlackJack and the Curve is smaller!

Better battery life, 2 mp camera and the Blackberry OS will make this phone a huge seller!!!!!

To BB Junkie: The prices you have are correct but that is for business customers only, for some reason the retail price for business customers on phones are higher than we sell them for in the store at out full retail price! Anyone know why???

Posted by: bkw13

I thought that the full retail was $449.99 ?

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Originally Posted by Extremevl

We received the purchase order for the Blackberry Curve (8300) last night and we should have them sometime Friday morning from UPS, it takes 2 days for shipping.

It will cost $399.99 full retail, or $249.99 with a 2-year contract and you also get a $50.00 mail-in rebate with the Blackberry personal internet package or higher Blackberry package which will make it $199.99 after mail-in rebate.

We have the demo in stock and it is super small and thin. I don't know what some people are talking about when they say that the 8800 is small, thinner or weights less, that isn't true at all. It's just as thin as the 8800 but smaller in length and the keyboard is what I would call an upgrade to the pervious 8700c model. Me and my manager put this phone up to the BlackJack and the Curve is smaller!

Better battery life, 2 mp camera and the Blackberry OS will make this phone a huge seller!!!!!

Posted by: GregGebhardt

According to the AT&T it IS $449 for full retail and they will be getting all the buyers they need.

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Business care still shows NO sign of the 8300.

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Business care still shows NO sign of the 8300.

It's online - I saw it about an hour ago on the "personal" phones section.

Posted by: quillhill

Yeah, it's on the personal section in my zip code, 98038, as well. Just saw it 30 minutes ago. Looks like the Web site is all at&t converted, too. Fun. Now, how to go about getting my hands on one.

Posted by: 65wagon

just picked mine up 20 minutes ago!!! love it such a change from the 8700!

Posted by: bkw13

Any greater Atlanta area stores have the curve? I want to pick one up Friday, but most either never got them, or already sold out.

Posted by: J_Smoove

Um...what am I missing here? Always seems like these are missing huge features that can be found on most other phones. Why are these so far behind on the features?

Posted by: .7

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Um...what am I missing here? Always seems like these are missing huge features that can be found on most other phones. Why are these so far behind on the features?

In comparassion to the other features included on other blackberries that have made them popular, what other "features" are you comparing it to?

Ive been using it all day and coming from a pearl im pleasently suprised with the size and the full keyboard and spellcheck.

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by .7

I am expecting mine to be on my doorstep this afternoon (per At&T's confirmation email...) and am looking forward to it.

I have had many (many... ) high-end mobile phones and even some higher-priced smartphones recently that are chock full of more "bells & whistles" than the Blackberry is touted to have. But, I have come to a place in my life where functionality, stability and reliability make more sense in a daily-driver device than having a "cool" phone with 100-features that I will either never use in real life, or are smart enough to use anyway...LOL.

I have been a very happy Treo 680 user for several months, and...who knows? I might continue to be if I can't get comfy with the Blackberry. But the Curve seems to have everything I want in a smartphone/PDA, and is missing most of what I don't.

We'll see...

Posted by: bowlofrice

You guys think I can return my pearl and get the curve if I already sent in the upc for the pearl? I'm still within the 30 days.

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Should have mine monday.

Posted by: PauLiE BoY

here my curve horror story...

i got an 8800 on May 2 as a 2yr upgrade. I am not crazy about it, ive been getting many java errors for some reason and the phone overall seems slow to me. So i did a buyers remorse tuesday, in plans of getting the curve on thursday. Fine.

I call Premier care (my wife is a postal employee) they send me the return labels for the 8800 and tell me call thursday and see if the curve is available. I call thursday morning, no cure in business inventory, period.

Now this is the fun part. after 4.25 hours of dealing with premier care yesterday, having to get my contract WAIVED by supervisor reps, going back to square one, then being told my usps discount wasnt applicable, and then saying "well, yes it is, BUT the retail of the curve is (drumroll please) $749.99"

i had a migraine worse than ever b4, i wanted to kill the stupid reps who had me doing back flips all day for a ******* phone. I went to sleep last night so aggrivated, i intended on cancelling outright and just paying the ETF on both my lines.

i woke up this morning to find that premier had somehow gone into my account, reset everything to a "fresh upgrade eligibility" status...i guess all those hours i spent on the phone with them did SOMETHING...

nonetheless, i got my curve for 174.99 with no shipping or upgrade fees.

i hope no one has to go through this...it was not even near worth the aggrivation i dealt with the past 2 days...premier is horrible when it comes to dealing with buyers remorse.

End Rant.

Posted by: PauLiE BoY

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Originally Posted by bowlofrice

You guys think I can return my pearl and get the curve if I already sent in the upc for the pearl? I'm still within the 30 days.

see my post above dude...i hope you dont have to deal with what i had to go thru, sincerely.

Posted by: quillhill

Curve ordered online. $199 after the $100 discount. Looks like I didn't have to pay sales tax either. So, I renewed my contract, but ah well. I missed the place during the online ordering process where I could select expedited shipping, but standard shipping is free. Looks like mine should arrive sometime next week.
Then I'll put the 7130c up for sale and buy a uh...I dunno, one of the new Samsungs to play with, I guess. Heh. Such a phone whore.

Posted by: SN707

Anyone seen any 8300's available in the Los Angeles area?

Thanks!

Posted by: henryhank

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Originally Posted by quillhill

I missed the place during the online ordering process where I could select expedited shipping, but standard shipping is free.

That's a bug -- they are all getting priority shipping automatically -- 2day FedEx. It just says "standard shipping" on the order confirmation. If you go back and start the process over, you'll see it in the cart (before final checkout).

I also ordered one online on Thursday for $199, but found one locally (Boston) for $269+tax with a $100 mail in rebate. I was surprised that the online price was worse than the store price.

So I called to cancel the online order, but it was too late -- already shipped via FexEx 2Day. Will be here on Tuesday.

Posted by: quillhill

Oooh, two day FedEx. Awesome. Well then I'll just wait for my tracking number.

I couldn't get a store here to sell it to me for less than $300 out the door. So, for me, the online order was the best way to go.

Sweet. I am glad to know I won't be waiting until the end of next week to get mine.

What do you think of yours so far, henryhank?

Posted by: henryhank

I'm new to BB, so so far, I like it alot EXCEPT for one thing: No true IMAP email support (which I *thought* it was going to have).

I've spent the better part of yesterday and today trying several different work-arounds to get it to work like I want (INSTANT notifications of emails, not every 20 minutes from the BB server).

I also can't figure out how to configure different alert sounds for emails, text messages,voice mail, etc. Sometimes it doesn't have any alert, sometimes it beeps three times and vibrates, and sometimes it just vibrates.

Posted by: quillhill

Hmm. Interesting. Well I have three accounts forwarding to my BB, Yahoo, Gmail and a work e-mail and everything is pretty much instant.

If you go into Profiles, you should be able to change the configuration of tones and alerts, and you can customize each profile (Normal, Loud, Vibrate, Phone Only, for example). I have one alert set on my 7130 for text messages and another for e-mail.

A great place to get more info on BB's since you're new to BB-land is blackberryforums.com.

The Curve will be my third BB thus far and I'm really excited. I loved my 8700c and the Curve seems to be everything I wanted just about from the next full qwerty BB I own.

I wonder if at&t will ship the phone today since I bought it last night or on Monday...hmm. Either way I could expect it Tuesday or Wednesday. Mmm. Happy Day!

Thanks for the info on the shipping, henryhank, made my morning.

Posted by: davistld01

Got mine yesterday...and although I have not yet changed my current voiceplan to a real-deal BlackBerry plan, and have spent most of my time personalizing the phone and learning what does what...I believe it will be a worthy "daily driver" for me, thereby demoting my Treo to secondary status.

I will say though, that although the earpiece speaker volume is as good as or better than any other smartphone I have used recently...the call-quality is not at all up to par. Like the 8100 Pearl that I tried a while back (albeit very briefly...), the incoming call quality has a "hollow' and slightly muffled tone to it. Not nearly as clear and crisp as the Treo 680 or BlackJack either for that matter. It will suffice though...and that's not enough of a shortcoming to make me pass on the device...just a disappointment, that's all.

Build quality seems very good, with no creaks or squeaks like I experienced with the 8800 that I played with in the store before I decided on my Treo...but I was intially put off by the lightness of the device compared to many out there. But...after using it for the better part of last night, and today (after a charge...) I can say that I feel very much at home with it...and my Treo feels like a brick in comparison...

. Overall, looks like Blackberry has taken measures to build a "tight" device this time around.

Everything is easy, simple to use, and where it should be...and that helped me a lot, since I was almost afraid it would be too complicated for me.

More later...but I really like this phone a lot.

Posted by: henryhank

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Originally Posted by quillhill

Hmm. Interesting. Well I have three accounts forwarding to my BB, Yahoo, Gmail and a work e-mail and everything is pretty much instant.

If you're just forwarding your email from those providers to your *@blackberry.net email address, yes, that should be almost instant. What I'm talking about is setting up BIS to poll up to 10 IMAP (or POP) mail boxes for delivery to the BB. I was mistakenly under the impression that the BIS component was a full IMAP client. Not so.

So where do I go to edit the profiles?

thanks.

Posted by: quillhill

I don't use my blackberry addy. I have those accounts set up in my BIS. I'm not sure how often it polls them, but, I've watched work e-mail show up on my BB before it popped up in Outlook. I don't know if that's the same thing you're talking about. I just set it up and off I went. I am fairly certain that nothing forwards to the BB address I got when I signed up last year. Hmm.

OK, depending on your theme, there are few places Profiles could be located. But, if you're using the default Cingular theme, they are located most likely in the Options or Settings section. And then you would need to open and edit a profile to change the alerts.

I have my Profiles set to the center convenience key on my 7130 atm so it's one button press to toggle between them to go from Normal to Vibrate or to change anything within each profile. In the Zen theme, Profiles are in the pop-up menu for me, too when I click on the BlackBerry icon.

I hope this makes sense.

Posted by: henryhank

Well, that's exactly how I have my email accounts set up in BIS. But new messages weren't getting delivered for up to 30 minutes... and some from last night arrived this morning (all the while, sitting in my IMAP folders as expected). Also, I have dozens of folders and filters on my IMAP mail server to redirect messages, and the BIS server only picks up new messages in the top "Inbox" and none of the sub folders (where most of my messages end up). So it became pretty useless to me. I figured if the BIS servers are smart enough to poll IMAP servers, they could poll the subfolders as well for unread messages, but not so. It's just not nearly as integrated or useful as I had hoped. So now I've set up all my email accounts to simply forward all the mail to my blackberry.net email address before being filtered to the folders, and that works. Except that now I can't manage (mark as read or delete) the original message on the IMAP server.

And to this day, nobody has written a fully featured TRUE IMAP client for the BB that is still available. There is one that disappeared, and another on sourceforge that basically works, but is a little clunky (it's pre-alpha level software). If anyone out there builds a TRUE IMAP client for the BB, I'd pay big bucks for that.

Posted by: quillhill

Hmm. Yeah, that's beyond my experience, but certainly there's a solution. I would scope out bbforums if I were you as there are experts over there who can probably help you out with the issue. I know there are folks who use gmail with their BB's specifically because they've got folders and filters customized just so as you do.

Good luck. I can't imagine it would be too difficult to get it to work like you want it to.

Posted by: bkw13

I picked up a Curve from a nearby ATT store yesterday, and I'm loving it. Perfect size, everything works great, excellent features, camera, easy to use, themes, etc etc. I wish it looked as aesthetically appealing as the colors on the Pearl and 8800, but I much prefer this blackberry over the other 2.

Posted by: bigmike20

Is the bluetooth on this phone is the same as on the Pearl? Meaning,having to do some work around in order to receive files from other phones.

Posted by: ORANGEDAD

Quick rant. Why is at&t with blackberry giving away the 8300 at their roll out party in LA
We all know what celebs are using the blackberry devices. Why is it that they are given as "swag" from at&t/blackberry. I don't have any customers coming and asking to have th e blackberry that so and so celeb is using. I work at a cor store and probably sell on average 30 to 35 blackberry's per month. They buy the device because it works at what it does,not becuase some celeb endorses it. I think I've seen photos of Eva Longoria at every rollout party that at&t/cingular for the past year. MMMmmm, maybe I should be looking for her ebay store

Posted by: DonaldMick

They're trying to make Blackberries more mainstream and one way to do it is to give some celebrity a freebie. Of course, it doesn't work, but the thought is there.

Posted by: bowlofrice

anybody having problems copying sim contacts to the phone? my curve doesn't recognize it but my pearl did...

Posted by: rjl2001

hey i'm really leaning towards getting a curve and have a couple questions...

1. i've heard the call quality isn't great. can anyone compare it to a Treo 650 or Blackjack. is it at least loud enough?

2. if you set an alarm on the phone to use as an alarm clock, will the alarm time display on the home screen? if not, how quick/easy is it to view what the alarm time is?

3. the Treo's have a slider for silent mode, and the blackjack has a button to hold, does the curve have an equally convenient way of activating a silent mode?

4. finally, how do you guys like the blackberry calendar program? it doesn't look like anybody offers third party software for it like agendus or anything. i use the calendar/tasks features a lot and am just wondering how the curve would maybe compare to a treo, or wm smpartphone?

sorry for all the questions, but sometimes the very minor issues make a big difference to me. thanks

Posted by: plz_kill_me

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Can someone tell me about the media player; does it have a search feature? Does it have a playlist feature? Equalizer?

Posted by: quillhill

Mine is scheduled to arrive by Tuesday. Yay. Woke up to my tracking number e-mail today. Can't wait to really give it a test drive.

Posted by: SN707

To anyone else with the curve... Is there just a hole in the back with the camera lens? Seems like something should be inbetween the out side and the lens?

Thanks!

Posted by: br0nx finest

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Originally Posted by SN707

To anyone else with the curve... Is there just a hole in the back with the camera lens? Seems like something should be inbetween the out side and the lens?

Thanks!

yea, same thing with mine. i guess its just a design flaw.

Posted by: rvinny

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Originally Posted by br0nx finest

yea, same thing with mine. i guess its just a design flaw.

thats how the back cover on the Pearl is as well. I guess they dont want an extra layer of plastic to distort the picture

- the pictures on my 8300 aren't as clear as they were on the 8100.

Other than that the 8300 rocks! Great device. Now bring on some more themes!

Posted by: rvinny

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjl2001

hey i'm really leaning towards getting a curve and have a couple questions...

1. i've heard the call quality isn't great. can anyone compare it to a Treo 650 or Blackjack. is it at least loud enough?

The sound quality is fine. Very good actually. My old Blackjack was louder but that was probably the loudest earpiece phone I've ever owned. My Pearl was more muted than the Curve - example max volume on the Pearl is about 2/3 on the Curve. I also read they added noise cancellation into the Curve. That may be what some people are whining about.

Posted by: br0nx finest

Call quality is excellent imho, a step up from the 8700c it seems (which was already great).

Posted by: henryhank

Does the Curve know when it's in a "holster" and not? For notifications, which one ("in holster", "out of holster") is the default setting for the Curve?

Posted by: gregc1968

Hi,

Just purchased a new Curve and so far so good. Can anyone recommend a good screen protector?