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Blackjack WM6 update on At&t forums!!!
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Posted by: bangbang023

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Originally Posted by bangbang023

How does one upgrade the phone? I have eboot and pda at I3, but my phone remains at B4.

I should mention that I installed the F1 ROM before installing I3, so I have no idea what I did wrong enough to leave my radio at B4.

Posted by: ReDRoVeR

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Originally Posted by Delta5

Upgrade to Da_G's WM6 if:
You want the added features of WM6 including...

HTML email using Pocket Outlook.
Improved Email setup wizard.
Improved Calendar app.
Slight improvements to the GUI in general.

You want improved battery life.
You need tethering but are ok using the USB cable and NOT charging the phone.
You want increased stability and speed with PIE.
You can afford (mentally/monetarily) to possibly brick your phone or void your warranty. I know it's debatable, but the possibility exists that you could fry your phone and be out of luck.
You are comfortable following the directions.

Stick to OEM WM5 if:
You care that the Right Soft Key (RSK) dynamically changes and is assignable.
You require Bluetooth tethering and ICS.
You have lots of 3rd party applications.
You are not ok about using unsupported, hacked, and possibly illegal software. I'm not a lawyer, but there could be some legal issues as to where the WM6 is coming from. I know that Microsoft and XDA-developers have had spats over this from time-to-time.
You do not have access to an Windows XP machine.

As a long-time PocketPC/WindowsMobile user who is comfortable flashing ROMs and such, I strongly perfer Da_G's WM6 ROM to the OEM WM5 even though it does have a couple of shortcomings (RSK & BT DUN for me).

Thanks for helping...with my luck Ill flash and the BJ2 or wm6 for bj1 will be out 2 days later

Posted by: chudy2

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Originally Posted by ReDRoVeR

Thanks for helping...with my luck Ill flash and the BJ2 or wm6 for bj1 will be out 2 days later

in that case, flash right away!!!!!

Posted by: Delta5

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Originally Posted by chudy2

in that case, flash right away!!!!!

I had read somewhere (probably here on HoFo) that the latest rumor was that the BJ WM6 official upgrade was supposed to be released this coming Wednesday, 11/14/07 and that the BJ2 would probably be out on 11/23 ('Black Friday'), or at least in time for Christmas.

Given the history of missed rumor dates and so forth, I have zero expectations for either date. But I did see those dates mentioned.

Posted by: Kevad007

Yep, I agree and I am the one that posted what others reported store managers telling them. Most these dates are garbage, but eventually they give them out and string everyone along, and eventually one of them comes to be true. Many doubt the dates cause we expect the BJII first then a week to 30 days later the WM6 upgrade. There were many told that today would be the BJII official date. I see no Press Release, so once again nothing but BS put out by salespeople saying what you want to hear. At one time the WM6 was said to be 11/19, now its 11/14 and the BJ 11/23? I just think its useful for us to see how many times they will put out these claimed reliable dates based upon seeing an official memo or email and it turns out its all just a bunch of puffing. Sure, its to be expected somewhat, but they have gone the extra mile with stringing us along on the Blackjack WM6. "We won't be fooled again?"

Posted by: wfj5444

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Originally Posted by 2phast

wfj5444, what Pioneer are you using? I have my Pioneer to auto connect, and when I setup the pairing, I initiate it from the handset, I then see I607 appear in the Pioneer connection window. The next step is to save the I607 as Phone1 (other wise when you turn off the Pioneer, the configuration is not saved).

I can't find my model number or the box :\ It is matched up to the AVIC D3.

I can't even pair my phone and therefore can't register it. When I try to pair initiating from the phone, after I go through the process the Pioneer says "Connection Error". When initiating via Pioneer it says 'Invalid Device'.

Also if I set the Pioneer to Pairing Mode, it never leaves, just doesn't pair.

Posted by: wfj5444

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Originally Posted by wfj5444

I can't find my model number or the box :\ It is matched up to the AVIC D3.

Looks like its prolly the BTB200

Posted by: adobostreak

one downside i noticed is choppy videoplayback, this could be due to increased RAM usage

i play videos through coreplayer, and on wm5 it ran smoothly (wm5's wmp was always choppy)

not a big deal though

Posted by: player911

I leave you guys for 2 days and there's already 20 more pages to read through.

I skipped through a few of them and didn't noticed any newer roms then the original I3 that are gold.

Da_G still hammering out the bugs?

Posted by: AShankman

The site was taken down.

Posted by: KSUJace

Yes - not surprised Samsung sent a cease and desist letter ... it proprietary property, probably not smart distributing from a website like this. I'd suggest future shares be distributed through torrents or rapidshare.

Posted by: herbaliser

rapidshare would get closed just the same. Apparently even torrents; demonoid still isnt up!

Pretty ridiculous middle of November still no official update, I still think THEY should pay Da_G if not only for his customer service here.

Posted by: thecableguy

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Originally Posted by herbaliser

rapidshare would get closed just the same. Apparently even torrents; demonoid still isnt up!

But with Rapidshare, they can send a letter, but someone will jsut re-upload. And I'm fairly sure Demonoid will be back before long. If not, half a dozen more will pop up to take it's place.

Posted by: Quantify

As a former blackjack user who caved and bought a Q9h, a few comments for those using WM6 on the blackjack...

1) ICS most indeedy exists for WM6, and it works quite well on the Q9. Hopefully full release of wm6 will include that for bj.

2) WM6 also includes a very nifty IP Utility, which includes essentially ipconfig, DNS Lookup, and Ping.

3) on the Q9, the RSK does work the way it does on the bj under wm5...it's voicemail when I have a voicemail, message when I have a new message, etc.

4) BT rocks, with the niggling exception that I can't get it working with my SA505 headset...but it works damn well with my father in law's BMW 535.

5) Band Select utility is much improved...more options and more user-friendly.

Here's to a final release of the WM6 rom "soon"...

Posted by: ReDRoVeR

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Originally Posted by Quantify

As a former blackjack user who caved and bought a Q9h, a few comments for those using WM6 on the blackjack...

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4) BT rocks, with the niggling exception that I can't get it working with my SA505 headset...but it works damn well with my father in law's BMW 535.

What year BMW is it???

Posted by: Quantify

2008. offloads the contact list, recently dialed calls, the whole nine yards. Now I want BT integration in my next car.

And, I got my SA505 to work...needed to tell it to run sound through hands-free profile, even though it sets up the A2DP profile as well. hmmmm. Whatever, it works...and I'm gonna get one of those nifty s9 headsets anyways.

Posted by: Delta5

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Originally Posted by KSUJace

Yes - not surprised Samsung sent a cease and desist letter ... it proprietary property, probably not smart distributing from a website like this. I'd suggest future shares be distributed through torrents or rapidshare.

I'm not surprised either. It was only a matter of time, although the HTC ROMS over on XDA-Dev seem to never go away. Finally some progress on getting WM6 for the BJ and then....

I'm tempted to just give Samsung the old one-finger salute and go buy a MotoQ9 too. Forget this waiting for the BJ2 or WM6 on the BJ B.S......

Quantify, as an ex-Blackjack user, what do you think of your Q?

Posted by: KSUJace

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Originally Posted by Delta5

I'm not surprised either. It was only a matter of time, although the HTC ROMS over on XDA-Dev seem to never go away. Finally some progress on getting WM6 for the BJ and then....

I'm tempted to just give Samsung the old one-finger salute and go buy a MotoQ9 too. Forget this waiting for the BJ2 or WM6 on the BJ B.S......

Quantify, as an ex-Blackjack user, what do you think of your Q?

I just moved from to ATT from T-Mobile ... using an HTC-S620 using WM6 (Dash but HTC ver) I came to ATT and purchased the Blackjack refurb for a total price of $40 , I did this just to get over to ATT due to contract up at T-Mo and knowing I wanted to get the Blackjack II. I have a good contact at Microsoft, he's seems pretty confident the BJII is going to be a Turkey Day phone.

Let's hope, I have 22 more days on my return policy.

For now my un 3G HTC-S620 is working fine... I also like the BJ with cooked WM6 ROM, just need that Internet Sharing, which is why I'm using my HTC still.

Posted by: dantan98

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Originally Posted by KSUJace

All they have to do is give AT&T the finger and release the ROM to us and they wouldn't have even had to bother! AT&T needs to get off their butts and get this out already. =-/

Posted by: Quantify

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Originally Posted by Delta5

Quantify, as an ex-Blackjack user, what do you think of your Q?

So far, I really like it. Biggest, most obvious difference is the keyboard...all the reviews say it, but it's true...the keyboard is much easier to type on. I do a lot of emailing, so that's a big plus for me. WM6 is definitely a step up as well.

One bit of weirdness so far...when you connect via bluetooth to a headset, there's no icon in the top status bar on the home screen. Why would they remove that?

In all I'm very happy with the move. I still like the blackjack, but for me the Q9 does everything the blackjack did, and does some things a little bit better.

Posted by: Da_G

Karate chopped by ninja lawyers, HIIII YAAAH.

Posted by: NecroSat

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Originally Posted by Quantify

In all I'm very happy with the move. I still like the blackjack, but for me the Q9 does everything the blackjack did, and does some things a little bit better.

I too have been giving some serious thoguht to moving over. One of my biggest complaints was that I STILL cannot get my Blackjack to sync with Vista/Office 2007 (connects, shows it's there, I can install software/browse the device, but the sync starts and just refuses to complete).

Are you using Vista and if so, it is working for you to sync there? (hate having to keep my old laptop around with vista JUST to do this one thing!)

Posted by: Foxbat121

I never have any problem with Vista /Office 2007 sync at all on two different PCs.

Posted by: chudy2

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Originally Posted by Da_G

Karate chopped by ninja lawyers, HIIII YAAAH.

I am frustrated to no end that samsung would want to forcefully silence the enthusiast efforts to have the freedom to enjoy their equipment to the fullest and even improve on their phones. not only does it piss off their existing customer base it also shuts the doors on potential sales increase due to crippled functionality, and community alienation. there is a reason why htc is so popular among the tinkerers and power users in the (winmo) smartphone arena. htc has mostly turned a blind eye and let it's customers be when it comes to tweaking and hacking. I believe that is one of the reasons htc has been so successful; they don't bite the hand that feeds them. I believe this sort of approach only increases your customer base and definitely won't hurt it.

samsung's excuses for seizing activity on this is absolutely ridiculous. the BJ is my first samsung phone after half a dozen of htc phones. seeing how the samsung/att partnership likes to cripple their otherwise winning phones and then lash out on the user base sickens me. more power to them but i for one am gonna vote with my money and take my business elsewhere. i've learned my lesson thank you very much.

i can't wait for the first batch of (htc) google android phones to come out where the platform is open, hackable and community input is not only allowed but welcome and encouraged to grow the platform.

Posted by: mts2205

how do I go back to my original OEM wm5 ?? can someone provide a link for the wm5 image ??

Posted by: LongTrailVT

Looks like Android has arrived at just the right time

Open source, do what you like with it... No more waiting for Samsung/At&T to get their fingers out!

Posted by: NecroSat

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Originally Posted by Foxbat121

I never have any problem with Vista /Office 2007 sync at all on two different PCs.

Maybe I'll try removing AVG and any firewall rules. Doubt this is the problem since I'm able to do everything else on it.

I'll take this to another thread though to avoid getting off topic.

Posted by: txcaesar

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Originally Posted by mts2205

how do I go back to my original OEM wm5 ?? can someone provide a link for the wm5 image ??

PM me, ill get you to it

Posted by: herbaliser

so let me get this straight. Da_g you are no longer allowed to work on the rom? and tx's site was shut down?! If this is true I will without a doubt never support Samsung again. The poorest customer service from a corporation i've ever seen. Theirs isn't even released yet and they tell you not to make it work.

Anyways, as far as Android goes; I found this recently:

http://code.google.com/android/#utm...tm_term=android

3g, 3d acceleration, the text message system, panoramic maps view, touch support... Do they plan to release android for all pda's and smartphones, leaving 3d acceleration and touch to higher end phones?

Posted by: chudy2

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Originally Posted by LongTrailVT

Looks like Android has arrived at just the right time

Open source, do what you like with it... No more waiting for Samsung/At&T to get their fingers out!

No kidding! I absolutely can not wait based on the previews.

to samsung's credit, with the i600 they really did create a special phone; 3g, wifi, a truly innovative carousel home screen. but unfortunately for us in the us , their mangled samsung/att spinoff in the form of i607/blackjack got crippled beyond recognition. it essentially was a motorola q clone; whooptie-freakin-doo!

i've owned every single generation of winmo smartphone and to be honest in the past five years there has been NOTHING innovative about them. Each revision is the same regurgitated craptastic package; just slightly LESS BAD than the one it replaces. The graphic interface still sucks, the UI is still slow, it feels like you're stuck in Windows 3.1 for crying out loud.

And yes, the only reason why I use winmo is out of necessity and that is not a good way of keeping a customer; I sure as hell am not a satisfied customer!! I am only hoping that the fact that iPhone and Android UIs kick winmo's ***, will light a fire under someone's *** and make winmo MORE INNOVATIVE so instead of creating incremental revisions that are LESS BAD they can come out with something that is MORE GOOD (yea i know it's not good english).

can you tell i'm annoyed? :P

I can not believe how short-sighted, narrow-minded and down right lazy some of the major players in the cellphone industry are; makes you think whoever is in charge doesn't even know what a callularamaphone or intertubes even are, nevermind uses them. i sincerely hope that google's android platform (or any other innovative force) will rattle their cage. it always takes a disruptive technology or player to kick everyone else in the nuts and you either get on the bus or get left in the dust.

it's amazing how quickly nokia reacted and responded to the iphone and touch interface. i think they definitely will be a major force in innovation in the near future. some other players are just plain asleep at the wheel

Posted by: Parsonsbri

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Originally Posted by mts2205

how do I go back to my original OEM wm5 ?? can someone provide a link for the wm5 image ??

Go to the blackjack page on the samsung site and check in FAQ's. The link for WM5 is in there.

Posted by: MobileServer

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Originally Posted by LongTrailVT

Looks like Android has arrived at just the right time

Open source, do what you like with it... No more waiting for Samsung/At&T to get their fingers out!

I agree. No more Samsung (mobile phone or any other products) for me.
I will remove BJ crap from my phone list too.
So glad at&t is not my main carrier.

Android on HTC is the way to go.
I've downloaded the SDK.
Looking forward to many great apps on that platform.

Thanks again Da_G and txcaesar for all the great work done.

Posted by: jdilley

Has anyone else experienced any problems getting the WM6 ROM to check your gmail account automatically? It appears to sporadically work without Facade, but with Facade, it never seems to check unless I kick it off manually. Manually, it works fine every time. Very annoying.

Any help for what I'm obviously missing would be appreciated.

Posted by: newloser

So, pardon my n00bness, if I flash back to WM5 will it totally wipe all of the WM6 files off my BJ? Does it basically reformat the drive?

Posted by: thecableguy

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Originally Posted by herbaliser

so let me get this straight. Da_g you are no longer allowed to work on the rom? and tx's site was shut down?!

Unless I missed something, only TX got a lawyer letter, Da_G was (I think) just commenting on it.

At least, here's hoping... I still would love to see a stripped down rom with optional add ins, like Da_G was working towards.

Posted by: Parsonsbri

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Originally Posted by newloser

So, pardon my n00bness, if I flash back to WM5 will it totally wipe all of the WM6 files off my BJ? Does it basically reformat the drive?

I believe that is correct.

Posted by: Kevad007

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That's what I thought too, but TX was contacted by Samsung America and person not indicating a lawyer (.esq) or anything. Even if the official one comes out soon, it would be nice to have a way to quickly strip it down and clean it out and put on only what we want. Space is tight, right?

We need clarification

Posted by: LongTrailVT

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Originally Posted by thecableguy

The next question then becomes a question of distribution so that you don't get the "letter".

I agree with the sentiments regarding platform software, iPhone and Android will certainly drive innovation in this market segment. There are some real positive attributes to the SmartPhone, integration with exchange is a good example, Microsoft just need to get better in terms of interface design and user interaction, much of what goes on in the background is actually pretty decent (imho)...

Posted by: LongTrailVT

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Originally Posted by newloser

So, pardon my n00bness, if I flash back to WM5 will it totally wipe all of the WM6 files off my BJ? Does it basically reformat the drive?

Yeah, flashing gets rid of everything, the only safe thing is the microSD card, read back through the many posts and people advise removing this. There are also so some tips in terms of storing programs and data on the card rather than the phones internal memory (which will get zapped during the rom flash).

Posted by: txcaesar

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Originally Posted by LongTrailVT

I distributed it on the basis that I believe in the idea that software should be allowed to thrive in a creative enviroment. I'm quite sure that DaG will still work on it to improve and customize it, and that it will still be distributed in some way or fashion. The letter I received was not from a lawyer, but out of courtesy for another IT professional, I removed the links. I still have other sw up there, and if anyone needs to reflash back to WM5 just email me.

Posted by: dantan98

This is definitely a case where finding this thread early and downloading/upgrading early has paid off!

I really hope Da_g keeps working on this as I would really like to see a stripped-down version and potentially the carousel install as well. =-]

Posted by: magno101

I would have to agree. Thank you very much Da_g, txcaesar, and everyone else who has made it possible for me to enjoy this new Rom. I most certainly hope that Da_g is still working on his rom and will hopefully get ICS working. Great work guys. Please, keep it up.

Posted by: LongTrailVT

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Originally Posted by txcaesar

I agree with what you say but this is not open source software, it is closed source proprietary software. I applaud you and Da_G for what has been achieved but at the end of the day these big corporations have us over a barrel in terms of the code and code ownership, the only way to be free of this is via an SDK or via open source.

Posted by: LongTrailVT

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Originally Posted by dantan98

This is definitely a case where finding this thread early and downloading/upgrading early has paid off!

I really hope Da_g keeps working on this as I would really like to see a stripped-down version and potentially the carousel install as well. =-]

I agree

Posted by: Kevad007

Saw elsewhere a posted e-mail reply from the guy from Samsung who wrote the letter that the WM6 release for the Blackjack is now targeted for "December". There are several posts that also suggest that BJII is moved back to at least November 30th, and more likely wont be available until early December. If the BJII is what they are waiting for and then wait some time after, we still have a month to go.

So much could be said here, but by now the pathetic nature of this whole thing has confirmed that Congress needs to look into how these companies interact and stifle choices. I am not going to let them win, I am shutting down one of my phones before the end of the year, and I am going to write this guy, ATT and Samsung etc... No its not the end of the world, but this whole industry is messed up big time. Time for a changing in my opinion.

I AM OFFICIALLY BOYCOTTING THE BLACKJACK II!

Posted by: Haligan-Tool

So this Android that I have heard about, will it work on a blackjack or is it setup for other phones.? I checked out the web site but did not see a compatibility list.

Any ideas?

Posted by: grinny11

let me make sure i read it right. so the da_g beta has internet sharing working only with no charging? that still would be great

Posted by: KSUJace

For those looking for the Da_G cooked WM6 ROM v. BlackJacki607/integra95gsr_UCGI3 you can find it here: http://tinyurl.com/2frckd

Posted by: tinpanalley

Hey all,
If I keep hearing about how certain things don't work on these WM6 versions floating around, then can someone explain exactly why you would download these alternate upgrades and then apply them to your phone?

Posted by: Foxbat121

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Originally Posted by grinny11

let me make sure i read it right. so the da_g beta has internet sharing working only with no charging? that still would be great

That means using modem mode which always worked. It is not ICS.

Posted by: pgens

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Originally Posted by tinpanalley

Hey all,
If I keep hearing about how certain things don't work on these WM6 versions floating around, then can someone explain exactly why you would download these alternate upgrades and then apply them to your phone?

Because the people who apply it think the benefits outweigh whatever doesn't work or is missing. So far the only major feature missing is ICS, and if you don't really care about that then it's a fine upgrade.

Posted by: magno101

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Originally Posted by KSUJace

For those looking for the Da_G cooked WM6 ROM v. BlackJacki607/integra95gsr_UCGI3 you can find it here: http://tinyurl.com/2frckd

Is this a more recent version? Or is this the original one Da_g released?

Posted by: dallen60

Ok I'm new here so forgive me if this question has been asked 100 times before. Has the BlackJacki607/integra95gsr_UCGI3 ROM seen any problems other than no ICS being included? Thank you.

Posted by: pgens

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Originally Posted by dallen60

Ok I'm new here so forgive me if this question has been asked 100 times before. Has the BlackJacki607/integra95gsr_UCGI3 ROM seen any problems other than no ICS being included? Thank you.

Go to the thread titled "BlackJack WM6 Technical Thread"

Posted by: flomassa

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Originally Posted by KSUJace

For those looking for the Da_G cooked WM6 ROM v. BlackJacki607/integra95gsr_UCGI3 you can find it here: http://tinyurl.com/2frckd

Is this an updated version from da_g?

Posted by: KSUJace

Quote:

Originally Posted by magno101

Is this a more recent version? Or is this the original one Da_g released?

Same one that Da_G released ... nothing new in this version.

Posted by: theallen83

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Originally Posted by theallen83

Need some help here

I have UCGB4 w/UCGI3 PDA and when I turn on the phone it shows the old WM5 blue image before the annoying splash/jet sound. When I look on Windows folder, there's a PNG file called "ms_splash.png" which is the WM6 blue/green image with the spirals. My question is: where do I go on the Registry in order to change the image from the WM5 to the WM6 one?

Can anybody help me out here?

Posted by: cosmicc

hey! its wednesday, isnt this the next so called release day? didnt i see in here wednesday was the bj wm6 release and friday was the bj2?

see them go by with still no release..

woooooosh...

and after all this bs waiting, if that bluetooth stack isnt fixed so i can use voice commander LIKE IT SHOULD BE USED, then im chucking my bj in traffic.

i hope they lost money on the retarded voice dial feature they charge for.

i am so close to just giving up and selling my bj and getting a pda or a smartphone that isnt junk.

sorry i had to get that off my chest, they got me bottled up with alot of anger.

Posted by: chudy2

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Originally Posted by cosmicc

hey! its wednesday, isnt this the next so called release day? didnt i see in here wednesday was the bj wm6 release and friday was the bj2?

see them go by with still no release..

woooooosh...

and after all this bs waiting, if that bluetooth stack isnt fixed so i can use voice commander LIKE IT SHOULD BE USED, then im chucking my bj in traffic.

i hope they lost money on the retarded voice dial feature they charge for.

i am so close to just giving up and selling my bj and getting a pda or a smartphone that isnt junk.

sorry i had to get that off my chest, they got me bottled up with alot of anger.

it's alright, i did my venting yesterday

you've got plenty of sympathetic bjI owners...let's hope the samsung/att love pair reads these!

Posted by: Kevad007

Apparently they want to try and "FORCE" those that want fixed Bluetooth, Voice Command, WM6 and ICS all in one unit to buy the BJII. If they do not have all these fixed in ready ROM for the BJ by now they are just the most lame companies out there. They must have decided this whole scheme a year ago, put out a disabled/features crippled and held back bug fixed Blackjack, to leave reason enough so that in one year when we roll out BJII, there is just enough to leverage many to want/need to upgrade to a new unit. They must really think that BJ II will not do well on its own to pull this kind of crud. Well, it would have sold much better if they added WI-FI, but AT&T said "NO" let's force them onto our data plans only and heck, lets roll out all these add on pay for services and hey you watch Global Roaming deals like the iPhone for $60 bucks for 50MB, which would not be so necessary if you could go to a Hot Spot when out of the country and just get on a free connection.

THis is beyond smart business, it is in my opinon a MONOPOLY and holding the FCC granted public radio waves hostage to avoid competitive services.

Since they seem to be SO dang intent on delaying this upgrade until after the BJII comes out, I personally feel that what I can do is BOYCOTT the BJ II. You all can do what you want, but I am not going to reward this BS manipulative and ram it down your throat type tactic and go buy yet another AT&T/Samsung combo. Just what other bugs, hold outs, crippled, and other wise controlled planned obsolesence have they built into the combo of AT&T/BJ II. I for one do not want to find out and go through this again!

HEY AT&T/SAMSUNG GO INTERCOURCE YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO TO BJ II, NO TO BJ II, NO TO BJ II

Time to write my Congressman, and others!

Posted by: clauretano

Monopoly? are you mad? They're not even much larger than Verizon...

I loved everything about the blackjack 2 until I noticed the glossy finish. The durable, non-fingerprinty nature of the blackjack was the primary selling point for me! I can't stand phones that I feel compelled to keep in a case!

Posted by: Kevad007

Although posted in the thread about the release date for the BJ II, I think it merits repeating here as it seems abundantly clear that one factor on the date we all get the official WM6 upgrade for our BJ' I is the release of the BJ II FIRST!

Today Samsung announced in an OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE BY SAMSUNG that the BJ II IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE! and that it will be available NATIONWIDE by November 21, 2007.

Perhaps this gives some hope that WM6 for us BJ I owners will be coming soon (oh wait that has been their statement for months now). OK, now its really really coming soon soon?

AND THEY THANK US FOR OUR PATIENCE!

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/071115/nyth068.html?.v=101

Posted by: xsinbadx

First off thanks to all who worked on this release, you guys rock. Quick question. I have installed the latest wm6 on my phone, but for some reason i can't log onto my banks webstie for online banking. it says i have an older version of IE and need to upgrade. But when i had wm5 it worked just fine. any thoughts?

Posted by: jpblue

Sorry, I'm a noob...what's ICS?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by: chudy2

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Originally Posted by jpblue

Sorry, I'm a noob...what's ICS?

Thanks in advance.

do you "google"?

Posted by: NecroSat

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Originally Posted by jpblue

Sorry, I'm a noob...what's ICS?

Thanks in advance.

Sure you'll get 100 people saying "go google it", "go use the search".
I'll be nice and simple say "Internet Connection Sharing". There is much more in the forums that will help you better than I can (I'm just a person who knows slightly more than enough to know my phone is not a self-defense weapon).

Posted by: txcaesar

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Originally Posted by NecroSat

Say it isnt so!!! Ive been using it to fight off the iPhone users in my office this whole time!

Posted by: NecroSat

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

Say it isnt so!!! Ive been using it to fight off the iPhone users in my office this whole time!

It's just me. I've yet to complete the training to receive my yellow button in the proper method to sling my phone with enough velocity to embed it into a target.
Give me time.

Posted by: chudy2

Quote:

Originally Posted by NecroSat

It's just me. I've yet to complete the training to receive my yellow button in the proper method to sling my phone with enough velocity to embed it into a target.
Give me time.

I dunno, i sharpened the edges on my raZr and it slices through things like butter! the iphone seems like more of a blunt force trauma kinda device

Posted by: herbaliser

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

I dunno, i sharpened the edges on my raZr and it slices through things like butter! the iphone seems like more of a blunt force trauma kinda device

I hope your serious...thats awesome.

Ive thought about what cellphones lack, considering they are now becoming more and more versatile every year.

3 things phones need:
hidden stash pocket (like some pants have)
built in lighter
built in knife

Posted by: Kevad007

Come now, let's not have all this talk of violence, pain, and weapons. It appears that these companies are really more concerned about favoring phones that are properly designed, shaped and equipped with a good vibrate mode, so they fit them in the orifice of choice and call themselves all day!

Posted by: herbaliser

I know what the companies favor, I'm just saying what i'd like to see. there is nothing violent about a stash pocket or lighter, but i can see the knives being a problem.

I guess all i can say is when they do come equipped with knives, don't give one to your kids.

Posted by: herbaliser

So we aren't getting an official update?

what about the carousel theme Da_G?

Posted by: Da_G

Real Life > this at the moment and for the near future, unfortunatly.

If I get a chance i'll release the preliminary rom kitchen i've got going, but it's not very functional right now.

Posted by: herbaliser

just in case anyone's still wondering; AT&T is still directing customers to Samsung regarding wm6. I doubt we'll see an official release and the leaked roms might have come off the blackjack2.

Posted by: Kevad007

Well, and the news so far is not good from the first BJ2 owners. They are saying no ICS on the BJ2. We need get more verfication about this and make sure from serveral souces before we can be sure about this. But Da_G predicted this, even though the new WM6 Moto Q does have it. I am hoping the first BJ2 owners saying this just did not look in the right place, or maybe the file name is changed. Anybody that really knows what to look for and gets a chance to look on a BJII, let us know, does the BJ2 have ICS or not? Wonder what else is not working or fixed in the BJ2? Ahhhhh, gotta leave a reason to by the BJ3 coming soon in Nov. 2008, and thanks for your patience!

Posted by: Kevad007

Update, as I posted in the other tech thread, it is being reported that on the BJII when connected via USB Modem and having the Blackjack II act as an Internet Modem, the phone is powered/charging still. Also on Samsungs site it says there is a way to make the BJII act as a Modem with a Bluetooth DUN connection. If these items are true the lack of ICS would be minimal. Hopefully, most of you were aware there were always two ways to have the BJ act as a modem to get on the Internet with your laptop/PC. The main issue was in WM5 ICS allowed power/charging and Bluetooth (so you could plug the BJ to the power plug) and the Modem method did not allow powering or Bluetooth connectivity. Has anyone tested the beta WM6 to see if they get power using the modem method. There is this AT&T connect software too mentioned for how the BJII connects as modem. Have we tried it with the BJ and does it power and act as Modem under beta WM6? Does this make ICS mostly unnessary if we can power and modem at the same time with WM6 on the BJ?

Posted by: Compxpert

What exactly works in the latest rom... I'm Thinking about flashing it. One main thing I'm looking at is if voice commands can be initiated over bluetooth. If not I'll probably wait for the official release

Posted by: player911

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compxpert

What exactly works in the latest rom... I'm Thinking about flashing it. One main thing I'm looking at is if voice commands can be initiated over bluetooth. If not I'll probably wait for the official release

I think they got bluetooth working with Voice Connect.

This release is pretty solid. The keyboard works like in WM5 (hold for alt char.), and the end key doesn't stop working when you get a second call. Video Chat was in the first beta, but I haven't played with it to see if it works in the latest version.

It is a pretty sweet deal.

I'm waiting on the Official... but I've been flashing to WM6 for almost 6 months now. I was hesitant at first, but now I'm glad I did or woulda been waiting a long time.

Make a good backup and play with it. When the official comes out, we'll see which is better.

Posted by: MDIFILM

Quote:

Originally Posted by player911

I think they got bluetooth working with Voice Connect.

You can't initiate via bluetooth yet (on the latest CGI3 rom I have here)...

Sadly, I'm about to sell my unlocked BJ to get a tilt as i need something more 'powerful' for showing videos.

Posted by: alexbohner

The reason ATT is removing ICS is due to cash, of course.

Since ICS uses network sharing there is no way to identify whether the data is being used by the phone or a computer. Since they charge separate, higher rates for tethered access, they are limiting computer access to DUN only, this way they can wring a little more cash out of us for using our phones as modems.

Sad, and Lame...but true.

Posted by: pgens

But they don't (or haven't) stopped tethering from any device as long as the abuse isn't extended into several gigabytes... not having ICS hasn't changed that, one can still tether.

Posted by: IlKevinlI

I don't think it was ATT who removed the ICS. I think it was Samsung. If it was ATT, there wouldn't be an ICS on the Q9.

Posted by: alexbohner

Of course they haven't prevented anyone from tethering, that would be corporate suicide in todays online world. They also don't care how much data we use on a daily basis (within reason, of course), they only want to extract every possible dime from us.

I understand that the transfer of data from tower to phone is the same whether done through DUN or ICS, but I guarantee that whether they support ICS or not is a purely financial decision, and not one left up to Samsung.

Posted by: pgens

My point is what extra cash are they making if they indeed called the shot to remove ICS from WM6 on the Blackjack, when users can still tether without it?

Posted by: alexbohner

ATT typically charges one rate for 'phone' data, and another for 'tethered' data. For example, I have a single unlimited data plan and swap my SIM card between my Blackjack and Cingular/HTC 2125. When using ICS on my BJ to connect my laptop via Bluetooth all data transferred is inclusive in my plan. However, when using DUN over Bluetooth with my 2125 I am charged an additional 'per kb' charge, which after a full month of transfers does not come cheap.

I believe ICS is a standard feature in WM6, I just don't see ATT pulling out such a function unless it benefits them in some way...namely in the pocketbook.

Posted by: player911

Thats prolly why they implemented the ATT Connection Manager. It prolly tags the packets so they can charge you accordingly.

I would use it wisely.

Posted by: Kirbee

ok, so check this out, I got the emial a lil while ago, and saw that you were talking about att letting us withing reason use the tethering for data... I have been for the past 2 months transfering LARGE amounts of data (6872.58+ mb) via my phone (torrents, xbox live, halo 3 multiplayer) and have had no call from att or any extra billing. It is THIER fault for selling me a data plan that was unlimited, and since it costs more than thier DSL plan, I think that they wont complain in the near future. I await this call, and this extra bill just so I can toss that in thier face... they can not tell me that I dont use this service from my phone. It is not like I get a great connection with the double NAT and all that, but it works for me, and I am kinda happy with it... I know that this is not what they intended when they said unlimited, but hey they did not clearly define the term outside of "unlimited"... and until such time I will use the hell outta it...

Posted by: herbaliser

so will there be no official update for the original blackjack? I wouldn't be surprised, a lot of people said we wouldn't see a release and even if we did it would be next year.

I think its safe to say all those people were right and there will be no update.

Oh well at least Da_g was pimp enough to make it happen. The only thing i want the official update for is to see if they added anything; namely the carousel theme.

Posted by: sb0611

Quote:

Originally Posted by herbaliser

so will there be no official update for the original blackjack? I wouldn't be surprised, a lot of people said we wouldn't see a release and even if we did it would be next year.

I think its safe to say all those people were right and there will be no update.

Oh well at least Da_g was pimp enough to make it happen. The only thing i want the official update for is to see if they added anything; namely the carousel theme.

...and the I3 radio ROM, assuming I3 is the final version of course.

Posted by: herbaliser

Quote:

Originally Posted by sb0611

...and the I3 radio ROM, assuming I3 is the final version of course.

Completely true. I now believe that was for the blackjack2 and was being tested on the original.

Bottom line is

corporation-0
customers-1

*edit- at least as far as wm6 on the blackjack goes hah

Posted by: Kevad007

At one time there were a few who claimed that their sources at Samsung said the BJII would be around Black Friday and the WM6 update would be around 11/29 or the end of November. They were right about the BJII more or less, only two days left in November, will they be right again? Does it matter anymore, do we care? If ICS is not functional in the final official version release "soon", what good will it be for most of us. Of course if they were to allow the battery to charge in the Modem USB mode that might help.

On the other hand it was claimed that the guy from Samsung who wrote TX the C & D letter responded that the update was now set for sometime in December. That may have been a hoax e-mail exchange, not sure.

In the meantime here is Samsung crippling or allowing AT&T to cripple the ICS in their BJ and BJII, meanwhile the TILT, QH9 and Pantech DUO all have WM6 versions with ICS working. I am still not sure why Samsung would go along with allowing competitors to have ICS working, but put out the Blackjacks with ICS not working. If I were Samsung and went along with a request of AT&T or watched them alter it, AND THEN saw them not do so in the competition phones, I would be pissed and FIX IT! Putting out an update, fixing some long time issues, and then taking out one of the main features so many of us found to be a major factor that brought us over to the Blackjack just is very very stupid of Samsung to allow and just outrageous of AT&T to demand of one but not any of the others.

Once again, we shall see if soon is now within the next 48 hours. I am still trying to figure out if I care anymore, but I guess we all went this far, its hard not be curious just what the intercourse they do! It makes little difference I won't ever trust AT&T/Samsung again, so if it ain't perfect out of the Box, FORGET IT! GREAT MARKETING AT&T/SAMSUNG!

Posted by: SeanH

Who cares about ICS.

If your goal is to tether at high speeds use a USB cable and set the phone as a modem. Bluetooth is way to slow for HSDPA and Syncing with ActiveSync using a PC is a thing of the past. Push email has been around for a while and provides real time updates of all your data.

SeanH

Posted by: SeanH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Of course if they were to allow the battery to charge in the Modem USB mode that might help.

When the BJ II is set to a modem it will charge the device when plugged into USB.

SeanH

Posted by: Kevad007

Yes, the fact that the battery charges and the phone is powered by the USB Modem connection in the BJ II helps reduce the loss of ICS in the BJ II but so far from the original WM5 through all the leaked WM6 on the original Blacjack this is not the case, and the only way to have Internet Sharing AND charging/powering has been via ICS. Maybe the final upgrade for the BJ will make it behave like the BJ II regarding powering/charging, and if not, perhaps someone such as Da_G will lead us to a solution. Still, I loathe AT&T/Samsung about this matter and I hope it results in opening more eyes to the apparent need to have major changes occur in this Telecom BS rammit down customers throats environment! I hope AT&T moves towards opening up as Verizon announced yesterday and goes even further. If not voluntary, then after what I have seen this past year I would support Congress both investigate all this funny business and force appropriate changes!

Posted by: herbaliser

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Yes, the fact that the battery charges and the phone is powered by the USB Modem connection in the BJ II helps reduce the loss of ICS in the BJ II but so far from the original WM5 through all the leaked WM6 on the original Blacjack this is not the case, and the only way to have Internet Sharing AND charging/powering has been via ICS. Maybe the final upgrade for the BJ will make it behave like the BJ II regarding powering/charging, and if not, perhaps someone such as Da_G will lead us to a solution. Still, I loathe AT&T/Samsung about this matter and I hope it results in opening more eyes to the apparent need to have major changes occur in this Telecom BS rammit down customers throats environment! I hope AT&T moves towards opening up as Verizon announced yesterday and goes even further. If not voluntary, then after what I have seen this past year I would support Congress both investigate all this funny business and force appropriate changes!

Everybody including my brother wants a Blackjack 2, if not only to shove it in my face. I tell them constantly not to support samsung and direct them to HTC instead. I will not ever in my entire life purchase samsung's products or recommend them again simply based on their customer support; namely in delivering vital updates for all windows phones.

Posted by: pgens

How is WM6 a vital update to the Blackjack? I want an official release of it as much as anyone, but it is an enhancement that is cool but not needed for the phone to function. What is in WM6 that is vital to functionality of the Blackjack as released? I don't disagree with your decision to no longer support Samsung, but I do disagree that WM6 is a vital update.

Posted by: gsxr800

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgens

How is WM6 a vital update to the Blackjack? I want an official release of it as much as anyone, but it is an enhancement that is cool but not needed for the phone to function. What is in WM6 that is vital to functionality of the Blackjack as released? I don't disagree with your decision to no longer support Samsung, but I do disagree that WM6 is a vital update.

Not so much vital but they said we would get it as a free upgrade. That was slated for release in july. If they had no intentions of ever releasing this update then don't let the public know. The other service providers handed out the update to their customers within a reasonable time frame. Whats at&t's excuse? All of us just want it. It was promised.

Posted by: player911

Well there are several things that WM6 does bring to the table to make one's experience much more better. I would take WM6 over WM5 any day. Especially with the latest release, WM6 is more responsive and brings several new features to the table like an update bluetooth stack, HTML Email, and Video Call capabilities. It might not seem all that important but for people that use phones alot on the road, the more you can do with one device the better.

The last thing anyone wants is to have to use more than one device.

Posted by: RoninCS

I bought the Q9H over the BJII (I've had my BJ for a year now), and I'm glad I did. WM6 did nothing really for the BJII, imo (I spent quite a bit of time with one..just didn't excite me the way the original did, and it didn't match up to the Q9H well at all).

Posted by: herbaliser

Quote:

Originally Posted by player911

Well there are several things that WM6 does bring to the table to make one's experience much more better. I would take WM6 over WM5 any day. Especially with the latest release, WM6 is more responsive and brings several new features to the table like an update bluetooth stack, HTML Email, and Video Call capabilities. It might not seem all that important but for people that use phones alot on the road, the more you can do with one device the better.

The last thing anyone wants is to have to use more than one device.

This question seems to be answered every single page lol. "wm6 isnt special. why do you want it?" Simply put, any update to an OS is probably guaranteed to be a vital update. Unless of course the OS sucks, which we all know it kinda does, but until Android, at least we have wm6 so its not that bad.

Posted by: pgens

I never said WM6 wasn't special or beneficial. What I said was it isn't a required update and asking why it is "vital."

Posted by: Compxpert

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgens

I never said WM6 wasn't special or beneficial. What I said was it isn't a required update and asking why it is "vital."

Personally I'd like to be able to initiate voice commands via bluetooth but that's just me. Its vital depending on who you are and how you use the phone.

Posted by: CocheseUGA

Anyone who reverted back to WM5 have Bluetooth issues? I can't connect my headset at all now.

Yeah, I'm back to WM6. Couldn't find the F1 Radio, so I'm using GB4 and I3. Bluetooth connection> RSK any day of the week.

Posted by: Kevad007

Wow, AT&T/Samsung were right apparently, exit polls and surveys online are showing that people are going for the Blackjack II because of the lack of an Official WM6 and other Fix Upgrade for the Blackjack. Since it became available 169 people have switched and caved in to buy the BJII, abandoning their BJ I bringing in huge amounts of profit for both money starved companies.

In related news, both companies have fired their polling companies, as expenses exceeded the profits gained from the poll question.

In further related news, hundreds of thousands of angry Blackjack owners refused to upgrade their Blackjacks to Blackjack II in defiance of the companies efforts to entice them to do so by offering WM6 on the BJ II but concocting a bizarre and lame set of delay tactics to release the same upgrade for long time/loyal customers!

News and factual information provided by the same reliable souces as those who formally advised AT&T/Samsung on marketing ideas!

GOOD MORNING HOFOers! May this week bring us something better than the past!!!!!!

Posted by: cinimod1000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Wow, AT&T/Samsung were right apparently, exit polls and surveys online are showing that people are going for the Blackjack II because of the lack of an Official WM6 and other Fix Upgrade for the Blackjack. Since it became available 169 people have switched and caved in to buy the BJII, abandoning their BJ I bringing in huge amounts of profit for both money starved companies.

In related news, both companies have fired their polling companies, as expenses exceeded the profits gained from the poll question.

In further related news, hundreds of thousands of angry Blackjack owners refused to upgrade their Blackjacks to Blackjack II in defiance of the companies efforts to entice them to do so by offering WM6 on the BJ II but concocting a bizarre and lame set of delay tactics to release the same upgrade for long time/loyal customers!

News and factual information provided by the same reliable souces as those who formally advised AT&T/Samsung on marketing ideas!

GOOD MORNING HOFOers! May this week bring us something better than the past!!!!!!

Ha, ha. It's good to know there is still some humor out there regarding the update! Would be nice if at&t would quit being such an *** to their existing customers....or ex-customers (left them years ago, but have a BJ)......I for one would be surprised if it was ever released, considering past performance, and how long we've waited.

Posted by: Kevad007

Randall Stephenson - CEO AT&T
Lee Jae-yong - CCO Samsung

Dear Mr. Stephenson and Mr. Jae-yong;

It is with deep regret that I write to inform both of you that in addition to yourselves, several executives involved with the Blackjack Smartphone and decisions to delay certain updates/fixes for that phone are currently on my "Naughty" list and/or have failed to make it over to my "Nice" list! The lists become final on December 17th, 2007, so I thought I would give you the courtesy of knowing that date and give you the opportunity to correct your behavior, despite your companies failures to give any firm dates on anything. Its a shame if you miss the "Nice" list this year, we had plans on providing you and your executives with a new World 3G phone with Wi-Fi and 5 MB Camera/Video that I have made here in the North Pole Workshop, to fill a gap that for the life of me has not been filled yet by your fine companies. I am sorry to say that all gifts to all of your family members will be canceled, which means they will not get their specifically requested iPhones for your kids and iPods for your spouses.

Thank you for your patience in reading this letter during your busy day, and if you miss my deadline, better luck next year!

Yours truly

Santa Claus

PS The above date of December 17th may change at my discretion, and if it does I will have my online customer support staff give out various other dates which may or may not be accurate!

Posted by: txcaesar

Well, as deadlines upon deadlines approach, it may come down to WM6 update not ever being released, and if that is the case, these threads may come to an end as well. I have enjoyed all the social interaction on these threads, and hope soon that well find out one way or another....but I tell you what, since I posted that WM6 update on my server, I have been hit over 15,000 times in less then a month!

On a totally different note: anyone have a i600 they want to see to me?

Posted by: Kevad007

Please disregard that letter from Santa, it was leaked by one of the elves and not intended for publication. Any unoffical use will result in your changing places on the list.

Posted by: Kevad007

Quote:

Well, as deadlines upon deadlines approach, it may come down to WM6 update not ever being released, and if that is the case, these threads may come to an end as well. I have enjoyed all the social interaction on these threads, and hope soon that well find out one way or another....but I tell you what, since I posted that WM6 update on my server, I have been hit over 15,000 times in less then a month!

Hi TX,

Can you tell how many total downloads of the latest PDA WM6 Version there were total since you put it up. At one time I thought you indicated over 50K?

I think they will release the Official WM6 "soon" here in December, just giving a bit more time for the BJ II to be the only "Official" choice to get WM6. What we have available from the leaks is really very useful to tide us over and it may be all we really ever get if they never fix ICS.

What has been a major motivation for me is watching how AT&T has limited the choices so that we do not have a Smarthphone, thin like the BJ, that has BOTH World 3G AND Wi-Fi. Without going into my needs, that is what I would like to have on AT&T's network, a Blackjack type phone with BOTH 3G and Wi-Fi that has Microsoft Outlook Exchange with Push E-mail and syncing with my contacts, calendar, tasks and all mail accounts. The only phones that they have offered to fill all my needs is the 8525/Tilt by HTC but I really also want the thinner, smaller form factor. I think many of can assume why they won't give us a Blackjack type phone with Wi-Fi but I must agree with those that say, we just do not know for sure why? I think the bottom line is they want to have the next iPhone be the only one available with both 3G and Wi-Fi, and that would be fine if it had a true push html e-mail for business needs that syncs with Outlook etc.... So, what I see happening next year is that there will be a new iPhone with 3G and WiFi (although they may remove the Wi-Fi), but it won't be ideal for Corporate use as the E-Mail/Outlook sync solution won't be there, nor will the iPhone have a method of acting as a Modem for us roadies who need it now and then.

The Blackjack and its newer incarnations offered hope that soon we would see all the right combo of features that I would really prefer to have in ONE phone:

1. Smartphone thin size and light weight with good enough size sharp color screen;
2. World 3G like on the BJ II;
3. Wi-Fi;
4. Faster Processor to handle Video for TV, Web Clips and playback movies;
5. HTML E-Mail with Push Feature and Sync with CORP. Exchange server and Outlook;
6. GPS
7. Useful Camera/Video like 3 to 5 Megapixel with autofocus and some zoom.
8. ICS;
9. Fully working Bluetooth Stack and Voice Command;
10. Easily upgradeable to fix any bugs or add on Operating system upgrades immediately!

I guess they know this would be a very useful and good selling phone, but they need to take time to get there, so they can dish it out piecemeal, so we have to buy phone after phone for the next few years. They don't want to make another Mustang of the 60's, nobody needed a new car for over 10 years, it was too good!

Hang in there everybody, we came this far, let's hope the Holiday Spirt overwhelms the Grinches at AT&T and Samsung, and soon we see an upgrade that helps make our BJ's better than ever!

Posted by: l33chpda

Have you guys seen the Windows 6.1 preview? It's posted on BoyGenius... apparently came with their ATT Q9h. Maybe the delay is to incorporate the 6.1 into the BJ? Wishful thinking, I know.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...n-100-pictures/

Posted by: Kevad007

Nice! Hard to know if it would fit on the Blackjack with its limited memory space. At the CTIA the CEO of Microsoft indicated that the upgrade would be downloadable for Blackjack II but not available until Q1 or early Q2. It also opens up those IT features Microsoft announced at CTIA. This Q9 has WiFi, and the Q9 has ICS. Hmmmm, goodbye Samsung hello MOTO?

Posted by: xSNOWCAT

man your guys still waiting for this update i gave up 2 monthes ago

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Hi TX,

Can you tell how many total downloads of the latest PDA WM6 Version there were total since you put it up. At one time I thought you indicated over 50K?

I stand corrected

Quote:

I'm being open about carrying it on my server, so I'm curious to see how long it takes till I get a doomsday email.....bets anyone??

up to 52,000 downloads now...

that was before I put the website index file out there, and not actually dl insomuch as hits, and it was closer to 30k-i just read the gator ticker wrong; since Ive put the website up and not just the FTP addy, its been hit 13,000 times so far...

Now im curious about the 6.1....im gonna have to research it..hehehe

Posted by: kirkis123

so whats this? says it was done today...

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/d...isp_nm=SGH-i607

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkis123

so whats this? says it was done today...

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/d...isp_nm=SGH-i607

I dont know; trying to find an xp box to run it on

Posted by: pgens

It is a 6k file that when launched comes up as an invalid application in WinXP.

The filename downloaded is 20071204165108312_AutoRun.exe

Posted by: kirkis123

blah well thats dumb

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgens

It is a 6k file that when launched comes up as an invalid application in WinXP.

The filename downloaded is 20071204165108312_AutoRun.exe

Run it on your BlackJack. It doesn't produce an error when I run it on mine, but I (still) can't tell what it does.

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgens

It is a 6k file that when launched comes up as an invalid application in WinXP.

The filename downloaded is 20071204165108312_AutoRun.exe

the file was put up there by the son of the chairman of samsung, who in a cracked out rage whilst on crack decided to place a file on the site to have us DL and show an error message, where in reality, it send a subliminal message for us to buy the BJII in the hopes it will save his father from the Overlord of Korea and not be led to the dark side of the force, and, and....

..damn, I have got to quit eating nachos and cheese late at night, I have too many weird nightmares...

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by kirkis123

so whats this? says it was done today...

http://www.samsung.com/us/support/d...isp_nm=SGH-i607

OK - I used a hex viewer to peek in to the file. It has an interesting line in it:

e:\liangyi\jeyo\JeyoMobile\sources\mPro\AutoRun\Wi ndows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone SDK (ARMV4I)\Release\AutoRun.pdb

Perhaps this is a stub program that starts an installation?

Posted by: runbuh

Hey - after running the app on my BlackJack and not seeing anything, I put my phone down. A couple of minutes later I picked it up and the phone had completely powered off (my battery has a good charge). I wonder what just happened?

Posted by: siliconvalley78

Where you able to turn your phone back on? Did anything change?

Pritesh

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by siliconvalley78

Where you able to turn your phone back on? Did anything change?

Pritesh

I don't notice anything different (including text messaging).

Posted by: Kevad007

Its South Korean code with the names and account numbers of Banks in the Cayman islands?

OK, just kidding! (Recall the Black Helicopters, geez)

Its really all of the changes made by WM6, so instead of the full upgrade, it just tweaks a few files and your phone functions just like it had WM6? (this would explain why early users don't see any apparent difference

)

Maybe it allows the phone to connect your PC in modem mode and keeps it charging?

Reading it in Notepad, it says it won't run in DOS mode and then after a lot of code it has some references as follows"

Quote:

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Maybe it modifies the way the new ROM installs onto the phone?

According to the Palm Treo 750 folkes they are getting Text Messages saying they get WM6 today at 3PM (PST) and the link with text is up on AT&T site but not working yet. Apparently AT&T Chat is saying its up to Samsung to post it now, its ready, and while they were waiting to give BJII more time alone, if the 750 has it they may have decided to let it fly sooner. Interesting some 750 owners are getting text messages from AT&T. Hopefully we get it this week!

Posted by: Futbolkeeper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

According to the Palm Treo 750 folkes they are getting Text Messages saying they get WM6 today at 3PM (PST) and the link with text is up on AT&T site but not working yet. Apparently AT&T Chat is saying its up to Samsung to post it now, its ready, and while they were waiting to give BJII more time alone, if the 750 has it they may have decided to let it fly sooner. Interesting some 750 owners are getting text messages from AT&T. Hopefully we get it this week!

I'm still not holding my breathe that we get it. Not to be negative just trying to be realistic. We've all been down this road before.... a lot!

Posted by: Futbolkeeper

And doing a search for Jeyo Mobile I got back this link: Jeyo Mobile Companion
They maybe just giving us a different way to sync to our pc's. Ideas???

Posted by: bezzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Futbolkeeper

I'm still not holding my breathe that we get it. Not to be negative just trying to be realistic. We've all been down this road before.... a lot!

Palm guys got it: http://www.palm.com/us/support/down...update/att.html

Where is ours??

sigh

Posted by: Kevad007

Looking at the info on the download page it says the upgrade ADDS ICS. OH so everyone else is getting ICS in WM6 while AT&T/Samsung are disabling it in our Blackjacks, both versions. That is just wrong!

Posted by: bezzo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Looking at the info on the download page it says the upgrade ADDS ICS. OH so everyone else is getting ICS in WM6 while AT&T/Samsung are disabling it in our Blackjacks, both versions. That is just wrong!

Not to mention:

"Voice Command via Bluetooth wireless technology - Get more done while you stay hands-free6. Dial by voice, or hear your upcoming appointments with your Bluetooth headset. Voice Command available in English, French, and German only."

Posted by: siliconvalley78

Ok, I checked up on the file we found online - it's for Samsung FunClub, or so Level 2 technicians have told me. Nothing to get excited over, unfortunately.

Pritesh

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by siliconvalley78

Ok, I checked up on the file we found online - it's for Samsung FunClub, or so Level 2 technicians have told me. Nothing to get excited over, unfortunately.

Pritesh

Interestingly enough, the file appears to be no longer available on the Samsung site.

Posted by: siliconvalley78

Is that a good thing or not?

Pritesh

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by siliconvalley78

Is that a good thing or not?

Pritesh

A good thing would be to post the WM6 upgrade on their site.

Posted by: gahbmwm5

Quote:

Originally Posted by runbuh

A good thing would be to post the WM6 upgrade on their site.

Yes indeed.......

Posted by: Kevad007

Samsung has to wait a bit longer to make sure they are the very last phone maker to offer the Official Windows Mobile 6 upgrade and possible fixes to their customers. Treo 750 customers were having issues yesterday with the downloads due to the page not accepting valid serial numbers. That should get resolved today, giving Samsung the title of the undisputed last place finisher. Being dead last for Samsung in customer care and ability to timely fix their phones is apparently a very sought after distinction and a very proud moment for them! Congrats Samsung you won, and 1 million Blackjack owners will now remember you this way! Oh but a few thousand bought your BJII, what a trade off! Your parents must be proud too!

Posted by: runbuh

We need to wait five more days. I don't know why, but we need to wait five more days.

Posted by: Kevad007

You seem to have some good information you feel might be accurate telling you Monday December 10th, 2007 is the day it will happen, but that you do not know why it is further delayed to that date as opposed to today or earlier, is that about right?

Posted by: pgens

runbuh's comment appears to be as much a guess as any other here. No other posts or comments indicating any kind of inside source.

Posted by: runbuh

I didn't get it from a Magic 8 Ball, but we've heard many tips in the past, so what I say is really no more trustworthy than what might have come from the Magic 8 Ball.

Posted by: Guitar1969

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

You seem to have some good information you feel might be accurate telling you Monday December 10th, 2007 is the day it will happen, but that you do not know why it is further delayed to that date as opposed to today or earlier, is that about right?

He was joking - AT&T always gives us a later date

Posted by: p1tater

I give up. I think I'm going to the "tilt". Samsung has burned this bridge.

Posted by: Futbolkeeper

Someone nominated it for the Vaporware awards! It got my vote!

Posted by: animeboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Futbolkeeper

Someone nominated it for the Vaporware awards! It got my vote!

I voted too.

Granted, I got into the Blackjack late and got it for $19 through Premiere, but that was back in august with the WM6 being 'soon' way back then... I think I'll get a Tilt for X-mas and move on....

Mark

Posted by: Futbolkeeper

Quote:

Originally Posted by animeboy

I think I'm going that way as well. Tilt here I come. But not just because of WM6.

Posted by: Kevad007

Anyone got a Blackjack that cannot be fixed without paying more than its worth. I hear a good YouTube video showing the owner Smashing it to pieces, or blowing it up, or lighting it on fire, or running over it with a bull dozer, or other such dramatic endings is really effective. The companies have moved quickly when a video gets popular. Now, I am not suggesting anyone ruin a perfectly good BJ over this, and I don't want to use either of mine, but if someone has a broken one, or dropped it in water and is going to have to pay too much, well then hey, lets make a film and put in it that the reason for the destruction is NO WM6.

Posted by: Kevad007

From the AT&T/Samsung Support Forum nominated by a poster with many votes already, Windows Mobile 6 for the Blackjack as the Wired Vaporware of the Year Award!

It got my vote! Something AT&T and Samsung can long be remembered for, (oh but they did sell a couple extra Blackjack II's at a Million customers expense, all for their misguided efforts, or lack thereof)!

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2...annual-vap.html

Posted by: MDIFILM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1tater

I give up. I think I'm going to the "tilt". Samsung has burned this bridge.

I got my tilt and gave my BJ to a friend. So now i'm happy, not only Tilt was WAY worth the $174.99 I paid for, but it also have the $25 rebate PLUS Wi-Fi, WM6 Pro, Voice Dial via bluetooth, customizable screen/rom (thanks to many roms available), fun, bigger screen, GPS, and many more.

Posted by: ErylFlynn

Where did you find a tilt for 175? For that price I likely would get me a tilt.

Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDIFILM

Welcome to the HTC Party. Beer is in the fridge, chips, dip and ROMS are on the table.

Posted by: magno101

now if only i can get all that in a smaller package......

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvisi0n

Welcome to the HTC Party. Beer is in the fridge, chips, dip and ROMS are on the table.

Good to see you here nVision, hope things are going well.

Thinking about joining that party as well with the HTC touch...

Posted by: Kevad007

Its somewhat ironic that Samsung was apparently hoping that rolling out the Blackjack 2 with the Windows Mobile 6 upgrades and fixes FIRST before allowing them officially/publically for the Blackjack would work as a marketing scheme to sell more Blackjack 2 units. INSTEAD it appears that all it has accomplished is to lose the loyality of many of us, and help sales of Samsung's competition including HTC/Tilt which has WIFi, ICS, GPS and more for a similar price.

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Its somewhat ironic that Samsung was apparently hoping that rolling out the Blackjack 2 with the Windows Mobile 6 upgrades and fixes FIRST before allowing them officially/publically for the Blackjack would work as a marketing scheme to sell more Blackjack 2 units. INSTEAD it appears that all it has accomplished is to lose the loyality of many of us, and help sales of Samsung's competition including HTC/Tilt which has WIFi, ICS, GPS and more for a similar price.

I don't know about you guys, but I don't like the Tilt and it's slide-out-keyboard brethren. Perhaps I'm doing something wrong with the Tilt, but I like being able to pull up my contacts list on my BlackJack and, with one hand, type S-M-I on the keyboard to scroll the list down to the Smiths. How do you do that on a Tilt? I also don't like having to use a stylus so much (although WM6 is improving one-handed operation). If Palm would come out with a 320 x 320 resolution WM6 unit with built-in GPS, I'd leave my BlackJack in a minute.

Posted by: Parsonsbri

Quote:

Originally Posted by runbuh

I had a 8525, switched to the BJ and now i have the BJ2.
I tried the tilt and even though it's smaller than the 8525 the issue for me is one handed dialing on the run. No good. I like my BJ2.

Posted by: magno101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

From the AT&T/Samsung Support Forum nominated by a poster with many votes already, Windows Mobile 6 for the Blackjack as the Wired Vaporware of the Year Award!

It got my vote! Something AT&T and Samsung can long be remembered for, (oh but they did sell a couple extra Blackjack II's at a Million customers expense, all for their misguided efforts, or lack thereof)!

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2...annual-vap.html

It's got my vote now too!

Posted by: NecroSat

Sent in my vote as well, but I ALSO sent a 2nd from my work location and have 8 people I work with also submit theirs from their computers at work AND home as well.

BALLOT STUFFING!!!!!!!

Posted by: p1tater

Sent my vote in as well. I will no longer own a samsung phone after this fiasco.

Posted by: nunya53

There are SO many people up in arms about the upgrade not being available....

I've had my Blackjack since last december, so I'm not worried about a broken promise on an upgrade and I don't need ICS so I've downloaded all the necessary bits and pieces (thanks txceaser) and will give it until the first of the year before I go out on my own and upgrade with the unofficial stuff.

I guess my point is...is the upgrade REALLY that important or is it more a matter of the "principal of the matter"?

Just my ramblings...

Thanks,

Jerry

Posted by: p1tater

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunya53

There are SO many people up in arms about the upgrade not being available....

It is definitely, for me, the principal. I bought my blackjack the day it came out, so I've had mine for quite some time. I, for one, am just tired of all the lame promise/leaked release dates for WM6 and then a no show. Voice dial would be nice and ICS is always a plus. I just find it discouraging when the BJ2 has these per the new WM6 and us lowly BJ1 owners have squat. Thans to TXceaser and Da_G I have all of the leaked ROMS and they are nice but they are not full blown Roms.

I'm sorry, I need to stop. Starting to get pretty angry. Maybe I just need to bang my head against the wall.

Posted by: Delta5

Everyone has their reasons for wanting the upgrade. I want it because WM6 offers several real and tangible benefits over WM5. The Email (HTML), calendar (better views), and Pocket Internet Explorer improvements (column sizing, speed) are reasons enough for me. My BJ seems 'snappier' in general running WM6 vs WM5, with completely stock configurations. The battery life is also easily 30-50% greater when running WM6 vs. WM5. Don't ask me why, but it is. I've flashed back and forth between the two a half-dozen times to confirm it. WM6 is simply a newer, better, superior product.

WM5 AKU3 does have ICS, and that's a + for those that need it. However, the tethering capabilities seem to be the same between the leaked ROM WM6 and the BJ2. Neither have ICS, but both have a USB Modem profile that works just fine.

The reason I (and I would suspect others) are so ticked-off at Samsung and AT&T is that there isn't any reason other than GREED to NOT offer the WM6 upgrade. If the BJ's hardware simply didn't support WM6, that would be understandable. But that's not the case. WM6 actually makes the BlackJack a better device. From a business perspective, they'd rather all of us go out and spend a couple hundred bucks and re-up our contracts to buy new BJ2's. I understand that this is how business works. Heck, I wouldn't even mind if Samsung charged $20 or $30 for the upgrade as HP/Compaq and Dell have done in the past with their PocketPC's. But Palm didn't have a problem releasing it for free. Neither did HTC. This free market of ours is all about choice, and those two companies are being more supportive to the customer than Samsung is. Therefore, they will get my business.

HTC turns a blind eye to the ROM-hacking efforts, and I've even read a post somewhere that states that internally they actually support it as a means of promoting and encouraging growth of their products. Bravo to them for understanding that. My hacked-Rom WM6 Cingular 8125 is incredible compared to how it was with the stock ROM. The work that has gone into making those HTC ROMs is astounding. Oh how I wish HTC would come up with a slim Smartphone! Samsung immediately sent a cease-and-desist letter to txtCaesar and Da_G for their efforts. There's their attitude about how customers should be treated summed up right there.

My Blackjack was my first Samsung smartphone. It will probably be my last simply because the competition is listening to and delivering what the customers want. Samsung isn't.

Posted by: blubbertaco

Now that I've given up on an official WM06 upgrade to my BJ I, I'd looking at the hacked upgrades, etc. I can't find them anywhere as Samsung in their infinite wisdome (oh yes, this will be the last Samsung phone for me) has sent cease and desist letters out. Anyone know where I can get them?

bt

Posted by: Delta5

Quote:

Originally Posted by blubbertaco

Now that I've given up on an official WM06 upgrade to my BJ I, I'd looking at the hacked upgrades, etc. I can't find them anywhere as Samsung in their infinite wisdome (oh yes, this will be the last Samsung phone for me) has sent cease and desist letters out. Anyone know where I can get them?

bt

I would suggest reading through the 'Technical Thread'. Right around and after pages 6 and 7, where the 'stuff' hits the fan.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1272461

There may be some folks there that could help you. Then again, maybe not.

Posted by: NickS_

Check ma sig.

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickS_GPP

Check ma sig.

thats cool, but you do realize that that leaked rom that you have in your sig is the original leaked WM6 and not the most recent one that I have on my site.

Posted by: herbaliser

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

thats cool, but you do realize that that leaked rom that you have in your sig is the original leaked WM6 and not the most recent one that I have on my site.

owned by the local master!

I'm just playing, any version of wm6 for the blackjack must be maintained in case of court action by customers for further proof that they did in fact have some version of it floating around.

Posted by: p1tater

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

thats cool, but you do realize that that leaked rom that you have in your sig is the original leaked WM6 and not the most recent one that I have on my site.

TX, do u still have them on ur site, including Da_g's? How are u getting around that "BS" letter u got? I don't need them, I have all of them backed up on my memory card. I was just wondering. Anyone heard from Da_g on the other rom he was working on right before the "BS" letter?

Anyone got any ideas if a new phone is coming out anytime soon? I'm leaning toward the TILT but it seems a little bulky and I hate the IPHONE. I'm not an APPLE fan by any means.

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1tater

yeah i still have it out on my site, and Da_G has been busy but hell surface when hes ready to

Posted by: chudy2

btw guys,
ICS is finally working on WM6!
http://howardforums.com/showthread....41#post10346041

i am hoping to work with Da_G when he resurfaces and hopefully he'll roll everything into a nice new ROM for BJ1.

ics-check!
carousel-next up!

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

btw guys,
ICS is finally working on WM6!
http://howardforums.com/showthread....41#post10346041

i am hoping to work with Da_G when he resurfaces and hopefully he'll roll everything into a nice new ROM for BJ1.

ics-check!
carousel-next up!

Way to go Chudy! Work with me on this, PM me or email me and ill put it up on the server, and I'll get hold of Da_G to cook a new ROM ...screw Samsung and theyre cease and desist on me

Posted by: Kevad007

Great News! Super job!!

So now almost all major issues are resolved, although the scrolling is still a bit jerky compared to the original, but its better in the latest PDA only release compared to the earlier leaks.

Are there any other major issues that were hoping Samsung would fix in the final, that are still left?

Over on the ATT Samsung Support Forum a poster who indicated he is in charge of a Corp. account was contacted by Samsung engineering and offered the Final WM6 that they almost release but at the last moment (early Nov.?) found it had a few random issues still they were fixing into a 'Gold" version to be out in Mid December. The engineer claimed the BJ recall and dropped calls issue of the BJII had been slowing them down. He claims they offered to allow him to have the latest WM6 but he'd have to reflash in a week or two once the final final "Gold" is ready.

What random issues are there that we found, well one for sure is that ICS was not working. We also found that the scrolling is still not as smooth as the original. Did we also point out the right soft key still not working? Also, no H symbol in the latest, there was in the 1st leaked. Maybe they will fix the ringtone limit, it was not in the oringinal Blackjack, and we also pointed out that the Bluetooth Stack was still not fully functional and so some Voice commands do not work. I think some posters also indicated Good Mobile was not working 100% but it mostly works. Oh yeah, and didn't Da_G say the security settings were higher and too high on this latest ROM even compared to the earlier leaks. It makes it so you have to App Unlock to even load Google Maps and Windows Live Search as I recall. That needs to be fixed by Samy Sung.

What else have we found that needs fixing in the latest PDA Rom we are using (besides removing some of the bloatware)?

Am I missing any major issues that hopefully Samsung will finally fully fix on this GOLD release they are supposedly working on for release in the next 2 to 2 and half weeks? I wonder how it was Samsung learned of these at the last moment. Could it have been from us? Maybe they realized they need real help and hired Da_G to fly back to Texas and have him lead the team fixing up these issues they have been missing since last March/April when they first got the Beta from Microsoft. Hard to believe it could take so long, but whatever . . . . .

Posted by: runbuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

Great News! Super job!!

So now almost all major issues are resolved, although the scrolling is still a bit jerky compared to the original, but its better in the latest PDA only release compared to the earlier leaks.

What is the jerky scrolling? Could it be that most people don't understand that the newer ROMs have a two-step progressive repeat rate? The keyboard repeat starts off slow for the first few repeats, and then speeds up to a faster repeat. If you are using the 4-way controller to scroll, then you will see this problem. I find that when I use the scroll wheel when looking at just about anything (long emails, my Inbox message list, PIE, contacts, etc.), the scrolling is fine.

Posted by: herbaliser

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

Awesome work! This community continues to amaze me with every step of progress. Da_G is probably cooking up the sickness right now, so excited for the carousel theme.

Would it be fully exploited so we could tweak the colors and images? I'm quite handy with directx3d which I've heard it runs on. I've also heard flash which I can export to, so once its cracked give me a heads up and I'll try to add to it.

Posted by: singleSDguy

I have the Blackjack1 AT&T is telling me they THINK I need the Blackjack2. I CANT sync to Windows Vista AND Windows Mail. Does the blackjack2 Sync with Windows Vista and Window Mail. I have Windows Mobile Device Center, its not compatable with Windows Mail. Have they fixed the email, calander issues caused by daylight savings even with the update? What are the differances between the two?....PLEASE help me. I'm considering buying a new phone Blackjack2 or Blackberry. I have had my Blackjack1 10 month very unhappy and over 30 Tect support calls......THANKS

Posted by: pgens

Quote:

Originally Posted by singleSDguy

PLEASE help me. I'm considering buying a new phone Blackjack2 or Blackberry. I have had my Blackjack1 10 month very unhappy and over 30 Tect support calls......THANKS

Sounds like neither the Blackjack I or II are for you, an I doubt a blackberry would be right for you either.

Posted by: herbaliser

singleSDguy: I went to the trouble of finding the right phone for you based on your issues- http://www.fireflymobile.com/store/firefly/

On a side note I too have had 30+ calls to AT&T regarding my Blackjack2. But that was to bug them about wm6...

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by herbaliser

singleSDguy: I went to the trouble of finding the right phone for you based on your issues- http://www.fireflymobile.com/store/firefly/

On a side note I too have had 30+ calls to AT&T regarding my Blackjack2. But that was to bug them about wm6...

I hope your happy herbaliser that I spit my hot cocoa all over my well working WM6 blackjack I was laughing so hard!!!

Posted by: brent0001

omg that was funny

Posted by: pgens

I tried to be a little more less obvious about the sentiment, but nice Bad Cop response

Posted by: MDIFILM

just my speculation, since I noticed on the Tilt, a wm6 pro device, it has the icon on start menu for ICS, I just think perhaps they didn't put it on the standard wm6 cause it's a wm6 pro feature? *shrug*

I can't wait for the wm6's ICS as well, I still own the BlackJack (just gave it to a friend to use it since I got myself the Tilt) so I will be excited to add that into the BJ myself

Posted by: chudy2

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDIFILM

just my speculation, since I noticed on the Tilt, a wm6 pro device, it has the icon on start menu for ICS, I just think perhaps they didn't put it on the standard wm6 cause it's a wm6 pro feature? *shrug*

I can't wait for the wm6's ICS as well, I still own the BlackJack (just gave it to a friend to use it since I got myself the Tilt) so I will be excited to add that into the BJ myself

it's not a wm6 pro/standard thing....

basically when oem such as samsung decides to use microsoft's winmo paltform, they decide themselves or are dictated by carriers (such as at&t) what to include and not include. (in a simplified way, kinda like when you have a choice to install certain components when you install microsoft office etc)

when they build the platform it's as easy as checking or unchecking a box for the ics module. everything is modular on the platform and made relatively easy for the platform builder to include or exclude features...

with that being said im currently working on wrapping up the ics stuff...

carousel is a bust for now but i'll try to port over something simpler like windows live homescreen to see if i missed anything...

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

Good Job Chudy! I'm working on the repository site now http://dan.omefilms.com/bj so be sure to contact me so we can get you going on it

Posted by: chudy2

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

Good Job Chudy! I'm working on the repository site now http://dan.omefilms.com/bj so be sure to contact me so we can get you going on it

almost done....who knew creating a cab file would be such a freakin pita...

i'll need a guinea pig to test this sucker out

Posted by: chudy2

ok, someone running bj1 w/ wm6 or bj2; try out ics and report back with any problems.

didnt test btpan as i dont use it so it might need work...

http://howardforums.com/showpost.ph...752&postcount=9

Posted by: MDIFILM

thanks Chudy2, I'll try it out once my friend with my blackjack is back from meetings.

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

ok, someone running bj1 w/ wm6 or bj2; try out ics and report back with any problems.

didnt test btpan as i dont use it so it might need work...

http://howardforums.com/showpost.ph...752&postcount=9

Doing it now, Chudy, what is the full file name in my docs? I had to reboot twice as now my Vista box wont see my phone..Ill keep u updated

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

the file is asking for a pw...

Posted by: chudy2

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

the file is asking for a pw...

.pfx file? leave the password blank..it should work

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

.pfx file? leave the password blank..it should work

I had to create a shortcut, and moved it over to my start menu, I chose usb, and then network connection (media net) and hit connect. The left sk button goes gray and then back to connect.

Posted by: chudy2

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

I had to create a shortcut, and moved it over to my start menu, I chose usb, and then network connection (media net) and hit connect. The left sk button goes gray and then back to connect.

ok, that means the .pfk cert install didnt take...
can you try again and see if it says it installed correctly?

then reboot the phone again and check to see if ics works...

btw, i updated the .cab file so it should place the shortcut in the right spot now...

if that doesnt work we'll try some other things...

i'm assuming your device is fully app unlocked?

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

ok doing now, give me a few

Posted by: Futbolkeeper

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

I went through the steps to install and run the ICS; BT Pan and USB connection did not work. The connect button just greys out after I try to click on it.

Posted by: chudy2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Futbolkeeper

I went through the steps to install and run the ICS; BT Pan and USB connection did not work. The connect button just greys out after I try to click on it.

see my original post in the ics thread, you might have to install secpolicies.cab first and then the .pfx file again...

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by chudy2

see my original post in the ics thread, you might have to install secpolicies.cab first and then the .pfx file again...

its so close I can feel it, but no, its doing the same thing, greys out and then gives option to connect.

Posted by: A.VOID

TWO Bluetooth issues post WM6 install >>>

1) Echo on my end for my voice on 2 Bluetooth devices: H700 and '07 Prius

2) If I do not ACCEPT the bluetooth connection then I lose it. So I now need to take the phone out of my pocket and click OK to get enable the connecting device. Can't we just set the devices to auto-connect? maybe I'm missing a setting, but I don't see it. I also hate having to switch devices on the handset instead of it auto-detecting the correct device. I know that's an ongoing issue.

Posted by: bks691

Quote:

Originally Posted by txcaesar

Good Job Chudy! I'm working on the repository site now http://dan.omefilms.com/bj so be sure to contact me so we can get you going on it

Hey TxCaesar nice job on the new repository site!

Posted by: wfj5444

Quote:

Originally Posted by bks691

Hey TxCaesar nice job on the new repository site!

Here here!

Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:

Originally Posted by wfj5444

Here here!

Thanks Guys (and gals) Im still working on it, trying to get a message board to work on it as well, and setting it up so that yall can add dowloads to it as well. the dan.omefilms.com is still good, however..

Posted by: A.VOID

DANG! That Repository is SICK! NIIICE! Registering now for the good stuff.

Posted by: Batman665

Any significant differences between the first leaked version of WM6 and the second leaked version?