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Blackjack WM6 update on At&t forums!!!

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Posted by: Foxbat121

Different manuafcturers doing things differently. Most major makers don't like to post anything if it is not for fixing some issues. Samsung, for one, never posted original ROM on its website. The reason it simple: not to confusing ppl and cause unnecessary support calls.


Posted by: mbranscum

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryMathews
Bottom line: Unit shipped with Cingular ROM on it (No update produced), there was an AT&T WM5 update and now a pre-release WM6 update. You can run either of those versions at will, but if you upgrade you can kiss your Cingular WM5 goodbye forever.


You can downgrade to WM5 from WM6. I did.


Posted by: pgens

No one is disputing being able to downgrade. You must however downgrade to the AT&T rebrand WM5, and there is no way known to get back to the Cingular-branded WM5.


Posted by: mbranscum

Wirelessly posted (Nokia 6620: SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/I607FG1 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 320x240) UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgens
No one is disputing being able to downgrade. You must however downgrade to the AT&T rebrand WM5, and there is no way known to get back to the Cingular-branded WM5.


Why would anyone want to go back to the Cingular branded version???


Posted by: pgens

Quote:
Originally Posted by mbranscum
Wirelessly posted (Nokia 6620: SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/I607FG1 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows CE; Smartphone; 320x240) UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)



Why would anyone want to go back to the Cingular branded version???


I don't know, you'll need to consult those who asked about it. A preference for an orange theme?


Posted by: TerryMathews

Guys I have some good news, not about the release date for the WM6 rom (I don't know, I'm not an insider) but instead for new functionality:

http://www.modaco.com/sgh-i600-Voic...html&pid=836489

Specifically read the last post. The person talks about how useless the new Voice Assist program is. But, he also mentions that he can activate it over Bluetooth (which means it could be replaced by Voice Command 1.6) and that he can automatically sync the phonebook with his car kit (SIM Access Profile).

This means that the Bluetooth stack in the final WM6 version is much improved over the existing one. Now if only I could cancel the order I just placed for a pair of refurb 3125s. Hehe, just kidding, they were free anyway.


Posted by: pgens

Update on my ActiveSync issue on WM6: To recap, with ActiveSync 4.5 and the WM6 leak on the Blackjack, the device would be recognized and it would start to synchronize and then just sit there. I re-installed ActiveSync and the problem repeated, so I went back to WM5 because I didn't have time to troubleshoot.

Since then I got the Moto Q9m (Verizon unit running WM6) and the same thing happened. I took a better troubleshooting path this time by telling it to synchronize nothing, and it worked. Then I added calendar, that worked fine. Then added tasks, that worked fine. Added contacts, and it hung up. In Outlook, I moved all my contacts to a temporary contacts folder and move a letter of the alphabet's worth at a time and using that method was able to nail down a specific contact record that was hanging things up. I deleted it from Outlook and re-created it, and everything is now fine.

So in closing, that is something to try for anyone seeing that problem. I haven't put WM6 back on the Blackjack yet to absolutely confirm that ActiveSync works with it in my case, but a different unit running WM6 with the same symptoms was fixed with this method.


Posted by: TechMedik

Well I found the link on samsungs website for the most recent wm5 rom:

http://www.samsungwireless.com/tech...i607_patch.html


Posted by: nstabl

where the fcuk is the wm6 non beta already. im sick of seeing the video share option on my phone and not be able to use it :P and this problem hanging up on random occasions is killin meeehhh!!! i know i know, it was my choice to put wm6 beta so thats what i get. i still love you guys

-mat.


Posted by: player911

Its not beta, its just unofficial. AT&T will prolly release the same version along with all the pro's and con's.

Lets hope not, but ya never know.

The thing is we were never promised an upgrade. People should be thankful we're getting one and that there is even an option to go to WM6, even if it is unofficial. Anything more then WM5 is just a bonus.


Posted by: jcjdoss

actually we were promised am upgrade. They did a whole advertising campaign. The blackjack, 8525, and the Treo will be getting wm6


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvisi0n
UPDATE: Now anybody that has been following this thread knows that I have had "zero" luck with the leaked update (continious hot battery, stuck end key issues) I did an XBM on my BJ and now I have an AT&T branded set and right out of the box everything seems to be going well, I tried about 50 calls to 611 so far and have no stuck end key and the phone has been on for about 2 hours or so and the battery is as cool as the other side of the pillow. Is this because this is an ATT branded set? Wish me lots of luck and a nice cool battery!


Well, I am a few days into it and have had ZERO issues with the leaked upgrade. I did the same exact install procedure that I did with my Cingular branded version but now I have no problems. In fact, my battery lasts longer.

Oh and BTW I shipped my XBM replaced BJ back to AT&T with a clean WM6 install on it, how screwed am I?


Posted by: TerryMathews

Quote:
Originally Posted by player911
The thing is we were never promised an upgrade. People should be thankful we're getting one and that there is even an option to go to WM6, even if it is unofficial. Anything more then WM5 is just a bonus.


Yes, we were.

Engadget isn't some fly-by-nite blog. If the story was not true. AT&T/Cingular would've asked for a retraction and Engadget would've at least updated the original posting.


Posted by: player911

I KNOW we are GETTING an upgrade... but my point was that when you bought the phone... it was never promised that we'd get an upgrade. Phones come the way they are. They don't have stickers on the front that say, "Hey when WM6 comes out, you'll get a free upgrade".

I mean AT&T aren't really gaining anything by supplying us with updated software.

AT&T doesn't own Engadget. Sure they are reputable and I believe them when they say the update is coming... but that doesn't change that fact that anything other then what came on your phone when you bought it is nothing more then a gift.

How can anyone complain that you haven't gotten your "gift" sooner. At least your getting it. It'll be here. If you really can't wait, then install the version thats available. Who says the "official" version is gonna be any better anyway?

What would you do if you waited all this time and the "Official" version is the exact same version floating around the internet for 6 months?


Posted by: TerryMathews

Quote:
Originally Posted by player911
What would you do if you waited all this time and the "Official" version is the exact same version floating around the internet for 6 months?


Call Tech Support and open tickets for the outstanding issues in the firmware.


Posted by: Foxbat121

FYI

According a post on Cingular/ATT forum, the release date for BJ WM6 is 9/17/07.


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

so about 3 1/2 weeks.......its about time, but you cant guarantee this


Posted by: player911

Yea but that is nothing official. I hope it is, but it no press release. I'm using the version floating around here and it works great.

The only thing that I'd like is to get ICS working. When I travel for work, sometimes I get stuck in cheap hotels with shotty wifi.


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=39281


Posted by: bipto

From the link above.

Quote:
Samsung informed me (then backed up by an AT&T Level 2 Data rep) that the release date for WM6 on the BlackJack will be September 17th.

I phoned back in a day later to ask a different question, and again asked and got the same date.

We shall see...



Posted by: player911

Lets hope. That just means I'll have to redo my phone again. I have Sprite backup, but sometimes it just the phone goofy. I don't want to chance any bugs coming over into the official version.

I'm gonna hold off and wait and see if any of the bugs got fixed first.


Posted by: nvisi0n

I know for a FACT that the final build for WM6 is out for testing. I have seen it with my own eyes. The guy that has it is an engineer for AT&T and bought a pair of glasses from me in my shop the other day. I liked the belt case he had and complimented him and then asked him "Did you know that WM6 is coming soon for it?" and he laughed and showed me the version info and it was in fact WM6 with a different version build # then I had. He said that his experience has been 100% positive with it. It did have video share and ICS but I'm kicking myself because I did not check to see if the carousel theme was on it and this is what I'm jonesing for. I offered to make his glasses 1/2 off if he would hook me up was a copy but he said he couldn't because of the NDA he signed, and by letting me play with him WM6 he was technically in violation anyway. Then I showed him my WM6 Blackjack and he almost lost his lunch. So yes WM6 is coming and is not vaporware, being that the "final" build is out in the wild it shouldn't be too long before AT&T flips the switch.


Posted by: Da_G

I've been playing around with cooking the wm5 and wm6 roms for the BlackJack for a couple days now, I have the process down pretty good now and have already done several useless (but educational to the process) mods, just waiting for the final release to get into some more serious stuff.

My main goal at this moment is to nuke AMR-HR out of existence, remove java limitations, and any other limitations I can find, and release a similar pack to the one I released for the w810i in the Sony Ericsson forums.


Posted by: philpeeps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
I've been playing around with cooking the wm5 and wm6 roms for the BlackJack for a couple days now, I have the process down pretty good now and have already done several useless (but educational to the process) mods, just waiting for the final release to get into some more serious stuff.

My main goal at this moment is to nuke AMR-HR out of existence, remove java limitations, and any other limitations I can find, and release a similar pack to the one I released for the w810i in the Sony Ericsson forums.
I think if you knew how to remove the java restrictions without installing another client on WM5 or WM6, you would have a lot of fans on here....if you know how, don't hold out on everyone....

May as well release what you have for WM5 to get some testers for ya to work out any bugs before the WM6 release.


Posted by: Da_G

In time.. in time. For now i'm working on updating the software in our unofficial WM6 rom to the (3 months newer) software in the i600 official wm6 rom. So far there isn't too much difference, the i600 rom has a heck of alot more bluetooth profiles though. And voice command comes with it, and the carousel plugin.. The i600 rom lacks office mobile interestingly, though, which comes with the i607 rom..

Almost every program has been updated in some minor way between the two releases, probably bugfixes, I haven't bothered to dig too deep yet because i'm anticipating 'the real thing'. If I stumble across something ridiculously awesome i'll let you know :P


Posted by: mr_c0w

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
In time.. in time. For now i'm working on updating the software in our unofficial WM6 rom to the (3 months newer) software in the i600 official wm6 rom. So far there isn't too much difference, the i600 rom has a heck of alot more bluetooth profiles though. And voice command comes with it, and the carousel plugin.. The i600 rom lacks office mobile interestingly, though, which comes with the i607 rom..

Almost every program has been updated in some minor way between the two releases, probably bugfixes, I haven't bothered to dig too deep yet because i'm anticipating 'the real thing'. If I stumble across something ridiculously awesome i'll let you know :P


Getting some good ROM cooking going would definitely be welcomed. I certainly get some envy when I hear about all the cool stuff they get to do with the HTC devices.

On a side note:
You would score a few fans if you got the carousel interface going as well.


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_c0w
Getting some good ROM cooking going would definitely be welcomed. I certainly get some envy when I hear about all the cool stuff they get to do with the HTC devices.

On a side note:
You would score a few fans if you got the carousel interface going as well.



Fans?! Heck, I'd give him my wife....oh wait, I divorced her.....hehe


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvisi0n
I know for a FACT that the final build for WM6 is out for testing. I have seen it with my own eyes. The guy that has it is an engineer for AT&T and bought a pair of glasses from me in my shop the other day. I liked the belt case he had and complimented him and then asked him "Did you know that WM6 is coming soon for it?" and he laughed and showed me the version info and it was in fact WM6 with a different version build # then I had. He said that his experience has been 100% positive with it. It did have video share and ICS but I'm kicking myself because I did not check to see if the carousel theme was on it and this is what I'm jonesing for. I offered to make his glasses 1/2 off if he would hook me up was a copy but he said he couldn't because of the NDA he signed, and by letting me play with him WM6 he was technically in violation anyway. Then I showed him my WM6 Blackjack and he almost lost his lunch. So yes WM6 is coming and is not vaporware, being that the "final" build is out in the wild it shouldn't be too long before AT&T flips the switch.




nvision, thanks for that tip, I'm still new on here, but have enjoyed the info I've gotten...but I'm with you, that carousel them is what is I'm drooling over...there are some other boards out there where there are some ppl toying with it, still with no luck..


Posted by: fmccamant

Is there still a downloadable unofficial version of WM6 for the BlackJack out there somewhere?


Posted by: jk5598224

Quote:
Originally Posted by fmccamant
Is there still a downloadable unofficial version of WM6 for the BlackJack out there somewhere?


Google or howardsearch


Posted by: Da_G

might try going back a few pages in this thread :O


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by fmccamant
Is there still a downloadable unofficial version of WM6 for the BlackJack out there somewhere?



*Sigh* Read the strings...

http://dan.omefilms.com/apps/i607UCGD2.exe


Posted by: mr_c0w

Quote:
Originally Posted by txcaesar
nvision, thanks for that tip, I'm still new on here, but have enjoyed the info I've gotten...but I'm with you, that carousel them is what is I'm drooling over...there are some other boards out there where there are some ppl toying with it, still with no luck..


Has anyone else had problems with data occasionally just not working anymore? I can open up internet exploder and there is just nothing on the page. If I go to the wireless manager and 'disconnect cellular data' then go back to IE and refresh the page it comes up just fine. The whole time I'm still able to send and receive emails. That is going to be the first thing that I call in as soon as WM6 goes official.


Posted by: Da_G

Well, I tooled around with the carousel theme for a couple hours yesterday, I was only able to get as far as the people at xda-developers did, it loads the dll into the homescreen and changes the system colors, but the animation does not function and all you get is a whitescreen. I poked through the dlls with a disassembler and nothing jumped out at me as an obviously missing component. Given that the official release is only about 2 weeks away, I don't think its worth digging any deeper than that. If carousel isn't in the final release, then i'll proceed further.

mr_c0w:

start -> settings -> connections -> right soft key (menu) -> advanced

Do you still have IMS CINGULAR selected? If so try changing that to MEdia Net. I've seen this behavior occaisionally with the IMS APN.


Posted by: treefrog

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
Well, I tooled around with the carousel theme for a couple hours yesterday...


I will really surprised if Samsung includes carousel for the i607 due to the processor. I think it would be so extremely slow it would be almost unusable. Someone correct me, but I think the phones that Samsung has be putting that on all have more powerful CPUs.

Even if they do, I doubt I will use it. From the videos I've seen, it looks like it would be one of those little novelty things for like a few days and I would just revert right back to my pretty custom homescreen with Facade and Fizz.

To me, if you have to "carousel" through a number of screens to get what you are looking for, then why not do it the normal way... i.e. "Start >> Here". Plus I find the little Samsung homescreen plugin to essentially serve the same purpose and it only sucks up one little line on my homescreen ;-)


Posted by: LunaC

Don't let the clock speed fool you. Look at some of the stuff on the Nokia 770 (mplayer performance for example) as it has the same proc.


Posted by: luv2hum

i know this has been asked and re asked but i have looked and looked, but i can not seem to find how to do this correctly. the internet sharing file on my blackjack is not an actual program and says that it cannot find :msinternet_sharing.....this is driving me crazy.
i have new dell with vista and wondows mobile device center but can not tether...please help


Posted by: LunaC

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
I poked through the dlls with a disassembler and nothing jumped out at me as an obviously missing component.


What are the chances you can pull the ipnat.dll out for me.


Posted by: Da_G

LunaC:

There you go, internet sharing files extracted from the sgh-i600 official release at samsungmobile.com:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IDHCBRYQ

I might take a look at this too as it'd be nice to get internet sharing working. Although it will likely be in the official release.


Posted by: luv2hum

great....now i just hope i can figure out how to get it to work with vista...so many different online advice ways to do it, which one is best?
thanks


Posted by: Da_G

As far as vista goes, I was a beta tester and I feel it should STILL be in beta.. :P

But if you have Mobile Device Center installed, it should install the networking drivers to support internet connection sharing. Or you could hook it up by setting the USB to modem and dialing up. But it won't charge when you do it that way..

Personally, I bought an Option GT Max for $0 off premiere, and I just slap my SIM in there when I need to use the internet :P


Posted by: luv2hum

excuse my ignorance but how do i load that .rar file?


Posted by: luv2hum

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
As far as vista goes, I was a beta tester and I feel it should STILL be in beta.. :P

But if you have Mobile Device Center installed, it should install the networking drivers to support internet connection sharing. Or you could hook it up by setting the USB to modem and dialing up. But it won't charge when you do it that way..

Personally, I bought an Option GT Max for $0 off premiere, and I just slap my SIM in there when I need to use the internet :P


could not find this in windows mobile device center...any ideas where to look?


Posted by: Da_G

the rar file contains the internet sharing files that go into the \windows folder. They are missing from the current WM6 release for the blackjack. Please note that I have not gotten this to work properly in Windows Server 2003 Enterprise x64 R2 SP2 (which is my development platform)

If you have Windows Mobile Device Center installed, it already installed the drivers.


Posted by: LunaC

Thanks. I played with this for a while but got tired of flashing back between the two (and havent researched yanking it from the flash)

*I recall that the registry setting for BTPAN and a few other options were completely differenet.. I need to play with it again to recall all the diffs.


Posted by: treefrog

Quote:
Originally Posted by LunaC
Don't let the clock speed fool you. Look at some of the stuff on the Nokia 770 (mplayer performance for example) as it has the same proc.


Well, let me rephrase then... the combination of this processor with WM (and Samsung's lovely BT stack) make for doggy performance. I thought that was implied by my statement. I'm just saying that some other Samsung WM Phones have faster processors (regardless what the actual clockspeed is).

If there were just one item I would change about the blackjack, it would definately be the processor. Just today at the gym, was jamming a long to music via my BT headphones and bam... text message... like usual, the music starts skipping and the text alert even skips. Finally, the phone catches back up and the music smooths back out. I can even tell every time fizz weather decides to ring in an update... same skipping. It's not a dealbreaker to me, since I love so many things about this phone, but (in reality) it's actually pretty pathetic if you think about it.


Posted by: Da_G

cpu speed definately lacks, but i'm coming from a 663mhz pocket pc with a 4 inch screen i purchased in 2004. lol. its barely bigger than the blackjack too, i wish someone would release a compact flash or sdio card that has HSDPA.. other than the japanese one which doesnt work here in america

I feel the cpu they chose fits under the 'barely cuts it' catagory, but given the abysmal battery life under constant data use with 3g on, (i killed my bat in 4 hours on a drive to la and back) i dont think a faster cpu would make you too happy about the battery life..


Posted by: treefrog

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
...i dont think a faster cpu would make you too happy about the battery life..


I would tend to disagree... with intelligent power-saving mobile processors these days, there is no reason it couldn't slow the processor down to save battery. Laptops have been doing it for ages. So, say, slow the clock down to 100mhz sitting idle and ramp it up to 400 when something happens. I guess I've been overclocking computers for too long... hehe :-)

I agree with the "barely cuts it" somewhat... just if it wasn't for the F&$cking BT stack... that really has to be the worst thing I've ever seen. My past SE phones and even my Treo 650 didn't slow down while on BT. It just seems like there is something wrong there. It's the whole reason VC doesn't work correctly (or should I say, consistently) with the BJ.

Come on, Samsung... Make me a fan. I truthfully can't believe I bought this thing (being a SE fan)... but did you see the new SE phones just announced? B to the Boo. :-(

Off subject (for just a momemt) da_g... was it you who wrote that great guide to hacking the W810i? If so, THANK YOU! You made that phone more that I could have ever imagined. :-)

And, by the way to bring it back on subject, after about three weeks of using the unofficial WM6 leak, I experienced my first end-key issue. And twice in one day. Errgg. I was so happy thinking it just wasn't going to happen to me. It sucks. But, hey, beta.


Posted by: Foxbat121

Slowdown when using A2DP BT headset is hardly unique to BlackJack only. A lot of other smartphones out there that supports A2DP had the same problem. A2DP profile seems take a lot of processing power out of the phone processor because of the lack of dedicated A2DP hardware support.


Posted by: treefrog

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxbat121
Slowdown when using A2DP BT headset is hardly unique to BlackJack only. A lot of other smartphones out there that supports A2DP had the same problem. A2DP profile seems take a lot of processing power out of the phone processor because of the lack of dedicated A2DP hardware support.


You know, I was just thinking that might be the case. I'm a programmer, albeit not that low level, but I was just thinking that maybe the CPU is having to do double-duty... i.e., say decode the mp3 and then re-encode to some sort of bitrate the headset has decided to use.

In any case, Samsung (or probably, more likely, Microsoft) should better implement it. I still think a better processor would correct it (albeit probably still slow down somewhat).

EDIT... I just laughed at my own post. Isn't just like everything Microsoft?... lol... you always just need a faster processor to overcome the bloat (or just bad code in the first place). Oh well. I'm still an MS fan... anyone that can make an OS that runs on any piece of crap computer you can throw at it (and easily) has at least some knowledge. I give credit where credit is due. [END EDIT]

Excuse my lack of knowledge with WM devices these days. I had all but given up on Windows CE a while back after numerous PPCs in the day (and I did own the first Casiopeia, if you remember that... how cool). Glad to know Samsung is not the only one to suffer here.


Posted by: Wide_opeN

Hey treefrog how've you been liking the wm6 leak?

I've been wanting to try it I just haven't had the time to load it up. Speaking of which how long does it take to load wm6 onto the BJ?


Posted by: Wide_opeN

Oh yeah, 9 post in 4years, you're a serious lurker huh? No pun intended, just nosy!


Posted by: Da_G

Yea, I wrote the w810i flashing guide. Still havent completed that little project but its about 90% there and I don't have too much time these days. Plus i've been spending what time I do have fooling with the blackjack

You're right about clock throttling, to an extent. Don't know why I didnt consider that since I throttle the clock on my hx4705 all the time when im using it for less processor intensive things.. Auto clock throttling doesnt work so well (at least on that device) though, it tends to run either at minimum or maximum, even if you define several steps.

I think the problem would come in the cost of the processor. The new "dual core" chips that are being used in mobile devices these days include a DSP to offload all the realtime encoding and decoding work that normally gets done by a seperate baseband chip. So you'd be looking at increased cost for the faster processor, and further increased cost for a motherboard/housing redesign to allow a seperate chip to handle the radio side of things. Which would probably also increase power usage further.

I don't know, i'm not a hardware person (at least not on the motherboard/cpu design level, I know my way around components and interconnects well enough), there must be a good reason the industry moved away from single core, high speed throttle-able chips, to lower speed, multi core chips. I'm guessing it has to do with power usage, manufacturing costs, etc.

I'd look up the whitepapers to compare the power usage at similar mips output, but I gotta pick the jury that's gonna judge me tomorrow, so I should probably sleep instead :P Maybe i'll check it out after court.


Posted by: SilverJack

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wide_opeN
Oh yeah, 9 post in 4years, you're a serious lurker huh? No pun intended, just nosy!

I think his post's rolled over like the mileage in my Nissan.


Posted by: treefrog

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wide_opeN
Oh yeah, 9 post in 4years, you're a serious lurker huh? No pun intended, just nosy!


Lol... I was waiting for the bashing. You are correct... total lurker, but much better than a troll, don't you think? hehe...

I'm just trying to get more involved, but I just know more often than not too many posts turn into battles and I don't want to contribute. At the same time, I want to contribute back. I do this on many forums I'm involved in... just many times I feel like I don't really have anything important to say.... Owning this BJ has just sparked a little interest (and opinion) for me, so I'll be quiet if you want me too.

I just need to do a better job of giving back things I have learned.

And (BTW)... I've followed howard forums a lot longer than that... hehe.


Posted by: Wide_opeN

Nah my freind you're good with me, in most instances your Joined the older it is gets respect from me.

BTW how long has HOFO been around?


Posted by: LunaC

Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog
Just today at the gym, was jamming a long to music via my BT headphones and bam... text message... like usual, the music starts skipping and the text alert even skips.


I'm there with you. I even thought that OCing would help but it didn't. However, when you consider being able to decode and play a divx at a resolution that even looks decent on a 64inch screen plus handle the mp3 audio tasks, you have to realize that the problem is more of a crappy A2DP implementation or timeslicing issue, not the processor.



The proc in the BJ has more than enough power to do what we are asking of it but that doesn't mean it has the horsepower to remedy bad coding skills. The OMAP1710 is really impressive in its capabilities inspite of its clock speed--seriously peek at what the N770 is doing and you can see where I'm coming from.


Posted by: LunaC

Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog
You know, I was just thinking that might be the case. I'm a programmer, albeit not that low level, but I was just thinking that maybe the CPU is having to do double-duty... i.e., say decode the mp3 and then re-encode to some sort of bitrate the headset has decided to use.

In any case, Samsung (or probably, more likely, Microsoft) should better implement it. I still think a better processor would correct it (albeit probably still slow down somewhat).


There is a dedicated DSP that can easily handle the transcoding without stressing the main proc. When using the the dsp, the cpu usage is almost nil. When decoding over the main CPU, the usage spikes (as would be expected with a low speed core that was designed for the builtin dsp/accelerators to be utilized for such tasks)

**However, there have been reports that SKYPE progress on the 770 are hampered by the lack of hardware FloatP ops ---sounds like 15 years ago and the 386/486---. I'll check on the A2DP for the 770 and maybe we can see what is possible from a good implementation***


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_c0w
Has anyone else had problems with data occasionally just not working anymore? I can open up internet exploder and there is just nothing on the page. If I go to the wireless manager and 'disconnect cellular data' then go back to IE and refresh the page it comes up just fine. The whole time I'm still able to send and receive emails. That is going to be the first thing that I call in as soon as WM6 goes official.


Actually, I had the opposite, "remote party has disconnected" sor some such when i tried to send or receive email. I have to reboot the phone..


Posted by: player911

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
LunaC:

There you go, internet sharing files extracted from the sgh-i600 official release at samsungmobile.com:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IDHCBRYQ

I might take a look at this too as it'd be nice to get internet sharing working. Although it will likely be in the official release.



That installed great. I can't test it now because my office doesn't get any signal to my phone. But I launched the program from the Windows directory and my PC popped up with a Bluetooth PAN and allowed me to connect.

I'm assuming it worked but I won't be able to tell until later. GRrreeeaaaaatttTTT!!!


Posted by: philpeeps

Quote:
Originally Posted by player911
That installed great. I can't test it now because my office doesn't get any signal to my phone. But I launched the program from the Windows directory and my PC popped up with a Bluetooth PAN and allowed me to connect.

I'm assuming it worked but I won't be able to tell until later. GRrreeeaaaaatttTTT!!!
dammit....how to resist now????

<internal thoughts>
don't.....install....WM6...beta....just.....yet... ...you...must...resist....the....urge.....
</internal thoughts>


Posted by: Da_G

Note re: ICS on WM6. I havent gotten it to work properly yet. It shows the BT PAN service, allows you to connect, gives you an ip address, but the network address translation seems to be broken. It wont forward any traffic. Fixing this is my current goal.


Posted by: philpeeps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
Note re: ICS on WM6. I havent gotten it to work properly yet. It shows the BT PAN service, allows you to connect, gives you an ip address, but the network address translation seems to be broken. It wont forward any traffic. Fixing this is my current goal.
that's how I resist the urge!


Posted by: Da_G

Hehe. It's kind of a catch-22 for me because my iPAQ wont connect to WM5's ICS due to the crapnasty bluetooth stack, but it's been rehauled in WM6 and I can connect just fine now, however ICS doesnt work. DOH! I'm hoping the official release has this included. If not I hope to have figured out how to get it working 100% by then


Posted by: LunaC

Same here but I cannot get it to get an ip. I still have issues even with the ipnat (I'm testing with USB to remove the BT issues for now). In checking the WM5 registry, I have nat and a few others related in the drivers/Active section that still don't show in the WM6 reg.


Posted by: LunaC

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
Note re: ICS on WM6. I havent gotten it to work properly yet. It shows the BT PAN service, allows you to connect, gives you an ip address, but the network address translation seems to be broken. It wont forward any traffic. Fixing this is my current goal.



Did you set:


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Tcpip\Parms]
"IpEnableRouter"=dword:1

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnectionSharing]
"PublicInterface"=""
"PrivateInterface"=""
"SetLastDhcpAddrToIEH"=dword:00000001
"DisabledOnBoot"=dword:00000001
"EnableDnsProxy"=dword:00000001
"EnableDhcpAllocator"=dword:00000001
"EnableAddressTranslation"=dword:00000001
"EnablePacketFiltering"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnectionSharing\Driver]
"Flags"=dword:00000002
"Index"=dword:00000000
"Prefix"="NAT"
"Dll"="ipnat.dll"


If I even create the key for the connection sharing, it goes straight from connected to disconnected.


Posted by: Da_G

Right, that's the behavior i'm seeing. Like the carousel plugin, there's something we're missing :X


Posted by: The Champ

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wide_opeN
Nah my freind you're good with me, in most instances your Joined the older it is gets respect from me.

BTW how long has HOFO been around?


before you were born


Posted by: KenDude

So if I'm not mistaken all WM6 releases for the BlackJack i607 are still Beta???

Back in March is was "coming in a month"
Back in June it was "here is a beta, final product in a month"
Back in July it was "in a few weeks"
In August it was back to "coming in a month or so"

Well it's now September, and let me guess if I ask "When is the final product coming" am I going to get an answer like "Sometime this year!"

Seriously any idea when the final version is supposed to ship?


Posted by: philpeeps

if you read the thread it is in just a coupe weeks...mid-September


Posted by: LunaC

by default bt pan in the registry of the wm6 beta is as a client (wish that would work as well so i could us a bt ap for wifi). Even changing from PANU to NAP didn't help


Posted by: UnstableTruth

Just to let you guys know... I'm having a trouble-free life here with WM6...

Battery Life: The battery life has more than doubled! I used to make it a day with my extended battery, now I can make it through a day with my slim battery, while using 3G all day. I think the key is it doesn't keep the data connection open/active all day. I couldn't put my blackjack near my computer speakers, even when I wasn't using it... the buzz was constant. Now it doesn't make a peep.

Reception: EDGE reception appears to be about the same for me, but it holds onto a 3G signal much better now.

UI: Good god it's like a greased up crack-head running downhill! Not only does WM6 look better menus and opening up windows are instant.

Yeah, the hold-down-a-key-for-the-alt-char trick doesn't work any more... but I didn't even know it was there until I read here that people were complaining it was missing, so I'm not missing much... MobiTV is awesome, and now when you full screen video it actually fills the screen.

The only thing that bugs me is this firmware seems to be missing the certificates for At&t DRM. I can't buy games off Media.Net nor does the Daily Show / Colbert Report show up under Cellular Video... Going to call up CS and see if they can resend me the certs OTA.

No End Button problems, no crashing...

Opera Mobile doesn't seem to like the "Samsung Compact" home screen (the launcher bar messes with the rendering), but that...

Oh, and HTML e-mail and finally being able to get rid of XpressMail: Priceless.

I'm a COR Rep with AT&T and everyone says "Wow, it's actually a usable phone now..." Unfortunately I can't use it as a "demo" anymore until the WM6 update goes final... but hey, such is life on the bleeding edge...


Posted by: luv2hum

Quote:
Originally Posted by Da_G
the rar file contains the internet sharing files that go into the \windows folder. They are missing from the current WM6 release for the blackjack. Please note that I have not gotten this to work properly in Windows Server 2003 Enterprise x64 R2 SP2 (which is my development platform)

If you have Windows Mobile Device Center installed, it already installed the drivers.


ok i downloaded the files and have windows mobile device with vista but still can't figure out how to get the dial up working with my blackjack.....please help


Posted by: Wide_opeN

Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2hum
ok i downloaded the files and have windows mobile device with vista but still can't figure out how to get the dial up working with my blackjack.....please help


If you search you will find... no seriously!


Posted by: luv2hum

oh believe me i have searched and searched but nothing seems to work. i can not get that internet sharing file to open....it keepss giving me the error message...


Posted by: LunaC

That set of files was something he was sharing based on my request, it doesn't actually work.


Posted by: luv2hum

what does that even mean?


Posted by: Foxbat121

It doesn't work. No one ever made it work. As clear as that. Those files are extracted from DASH by request and they do not work on the alpha version of WM6 on BlackJack.

Why bother? Official WM6 release is two weeks away and it contains ICS.


Posted by: Kevad007

Yes, it does, and it probably has some new method of detecting if you are using it withoud having the right data plan? The WM6 delay has to have more of a reason besides adding Video Sharing/Call. Its been so delayed, if it comes out on Sept. 17th, there is some reason they waited so long, besides just testing it. WHy not release it as a beta now, this minute! MSN Live, and many others are letting users have access to Beta software all the time. If its in final form now and after 2 to 3 weeks of testers are finding it is stable and "final" then why wait till Sept. 17th. Something is up with that! They want more 3G up? Just release it now via a leak to the forum folkes, make us happy, then put out a press release on the 17th, why wait! Yes it takes time to test it and get it right, but come on, with more of an effort over the past 4 months from May to now, it should have been out already.


Posted by: Foxbat121

Relax! No carrier ever let user download beta firmwares. It's nothing but asking for troubles. You have liability problems and endless support calls which will cost $$$ for carriers. Companies do this for very good reasons.


Posted by: luv2hum

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevad007
Yes, it does,


are you reffering to ics working on the beta wm 6? becuaase forever i have been trying, and cannot locate that file, i always get the error message internet_sharing not found etc...
have you been able to use ics with wm6?
thanks


Posted by: player911

Yea I guess it doesn't work. It seems to stay connected when selecting "Media Net" from the "Network Connection", but if you try to use "IMS CINGULAR" it keeps disconnecting.

Either way it doesn't give my PC an IP address. Bummer.


Posted by: nvisi0n

You ppl are so impatient, the real one is days away!


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvisi0n
You ppl are so impatient, the real one is days away!


lol, yeah, but all in all it's been fun hacking, wacking, chopping, asking about the beta of WM6..it will be a story told for generations, from father to son, of how brave industrialists sojourned the windows mobile world, to seek out...oh whoops, sorry..er, um...yeah, what he said, just days away.....yeah...


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

i was bord so i called AT&T asked the date for WM6 they said it is the 17th and will get it on the samsung website


Posted by: imp3tigo

Sorry if it's been asked before (read: I'm too lazy to search), but will most 3rd party programs be compatible with wm6? I have several 3rd party appz that I absolutely need, including copilot live6, google maps, microsoft live, real dice poker, and some others. Will wm5 appz work on wm6 or must there be a new wm6 version of these programs? Any info would be great, as I wouldn't want to do a hard reset to install wm6 and then have to go back to wm5 b/c I can't use any of my 3rd party appz.


Posted by: player911

all of your 3rd party apps will work. It doesn't break compatibility.


Posted by: imp3tigo

Quote:
Originally Posted by player911
all of your 3rd party apps will work. It doesn't break compatibility.


Awesome!! Can't wait for Sept 17 now.


Posted by: dfellars77

Ok here is a bug not mentioned yet... I am using a set of hired samsung ear buds for music (becuase BT is a battery drain and a major PITA.) Whenever an email or text comes in, it rings in the buds and on the speaker. For some reason the speaker reamins active and when the music starts up, it plays out of both the speaker and the ear buds. The only way to fix this (as far as I can tell) is to unplug and reattach the ear buds. Has anyone else noticed this or have any ideas for a fix (it doesn't matter which profile setings I am using.)


Posted by: pgens

Have you tried firing the Samsung ear buds and hiring another brand?


Posted by: dfellars77

I haven't mostly because they are really quite good... they are the higher end of the two that Samsung offers and they plug right in, sans adapter.


Posted by: crashman1114

OK I get that this all may be a moot moint now that the rel version is coming , but I am using the WM6 beta and it all seems very cool BUT

1) I used t get the Icon 3G when I was in HSDPA lands, but now I might get an H , or a G, any9one know the difference? What is it telling me? I THINK I still get E for edge.

2) Anyone notice a decrease in voice quality when using a BT ear piece wiht the beta? It seems to be worse that with WM5 ....Maybe it is me, or my BT device, but if not I am sure Cingular get this fixed in the final version....right???;-) AT&T may be slow, but I do think they would not let the voice quality slip on such a release.

I do however, LOVE the better typing speed, the new home screens, and ESPECIALLY the greatly improved Task list!!! (I live on that and my calendar so having more data sync is a GODSEND!


Posted by: player911

On blackjack running Wm6, I always normally have a "3G". Once I start transmitting data the 3G will turn into an "H" for HSDPA.

"E" is for Edge and G is for old GPRS. Perhaps your in a mix of coverage. Perhaps in your area they skipped Edge and went right to 3G (if that is possible not to have EDGE on a 3G network).

My work doesn't get signal at all, but the blackjack will grab a weak signal occassionally. When it does it'll either have just an Antenna or a "G".


Posted by: Kevad007

Quote:
Originally Posted by player911
all of your 3rd party apps will work. It doesn't break compatibility.


Currently it does not look like the Application MSNBC.com Mobile will work in Mobile 6, which is a shame as its full frame Video segments that include Today show clips demonstrated that you can get fairly decent video from the Blackjack, esp. compared to the generally dissappointing CV service. I have written to them with no reply on when they might offer a Mobile 6 version. When trying to install MSNBC.com Mobile on the leaked BJ Mobile 6 it indicates the program is looking for a file that is part of the Microsoft .NET CF 2.0 which is now actually built into Mobile 6 as where in Mobile 5 its added by downloading the .Cab and installing it on the device or in storage, so it looks for it in those locations. Seems like an easy fix for the maker of it but hopefully it is or will be fixed soon.

Losing MSNBC.com Mobile is softened a bit by the fairly recent success we have seen getting YouTube videos. I'd like to see Google Videos and MySpace (also part of Google) for my daugters use. I am really hoping that between Samsung and AT&T they have fixed the codecs and improved video playback efficiency. I know that Mobile 6 allows you to playback videos in full frame, but with like CV video its just blowing it up from the smaller resolution, so its not very sharp. Why CV does not have 320 by 240 video using a more efficient codec at a bitrate of about 350kbps still seems odd now after what 10 months of the BJ on the market. Its like they knew 3G data transfers needed to be limited due to the fragile nature of the new system, so they kept the CV video bitrates realllllly low all this time. With Video SHare, Mobile 6 and now time to improve the 3G system, maybe we will see better video finally, cause I like what I see with some of the You Tube solutions, so we know its possible with the right codecs and bitrates etc...


Posted by: player911

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevad007
Currently it does not look like the Application MSNBC.com Mobile will work in Mobile 6, which is a shame as its full frame Video segments that include Today show clips demonstrated that you can get fairly decent video from the Blackjack, esp. compared to the generally dissappointing CV service. I have written to them with no reply on when they might offer a Mobile 6 version. When trying to install MSNBC.com Mobile on the leaked BJ Mobile 6 it indicates the program is looking for a file that is part of the Microsoft .NET CF 2.0 which is now actually built into Mobile 6 as where in Mobile 5 its added by downloading the .Cab and installing it on the device or in storage, so it looks for it in those locations. Seems like an easy fix for the maker of it but hopefully it is or will be fixed soon.

Losing MSNBC.com Mobile is softened a bit by the fairly recent success we have seen getting YouTube videos. I'd like to see Google Videos and MySpace (also part of Google) for my daugters use. I am really hoping that between Samsung and AT&T they have fixed the codecs and improved video playback efficiency. I know that Mobile 6 allows you to playback videos in full frame, but with like CV video its just blowing it up from the smaller resolution, so its not very sharp. Why CV does not have 320 by 240 video using a more efficient codec at a bitrate of about 350kbps still seems odd now after what 10 months of the BJ on the market. Its like they knew 3G data transfers needed to be limited due to the fragile nature of the new system, so they kept the CV video bitrates realllllly low all this time. With Video SHare, Mobile 6 and now time to improve the 3G system, maybe we will see better video finally, cause I like what I see with some of the You Tube solutions, so we know its possible with the right codecs and bitrates etc...



Once the official version comes out, we'll see if it still doesn't work. Of course your not going to get 100%, but 97% of the programs will work.


Posted by: sashakla

Quote:
Originally Posted by runbuh
Do you mean your Audi Q7? If so, does that mean that your phone address book contents download to your Q7? With the WM5 ROMs, the address book did not download on BMW's and Acuras. I thought Audi's were also in the problem group. In my BMW (2006 530xi), I still do not get an address book download. I can take calls, and even place calls via voice dial by telling my car something like "Dial 555-555-1212". I just can't voice dial by saying "Dial Tracy Home" because the car can't access my BlackJack address book. That also means I can't pull up the address book and scroll through it on my car's address book screen. Other WM5 phones, like the 3125, 8125, 8525, Motorola Q, etc. download the address book just fine in my BMW.


Could you elaborate more on what you can and can't do with via BT in your Q7?


with my 07 X5 it wouldn't even pair correctly. it does report success after i enter the code, but the Hands Free checkbox is unchecked and the calls don't go to the car BT system at all - neither incoming nor outgoing. if i check the Hand Free service it would take it but go right back to unchecked once i open settings again after saving.
without touching the address book download (or lack thereof) issue - did you have to jump through any hoops to make it work initially or did you just pair and it started working?
TIA


Posted by: kneustadt

Quote:
Originally Posted by sashakla
with my 07 X5 it wouldn't even pair correctly. it does report success after i enter the code, but the Hands Free checkbox is unchecked and the calls don't go to the car BT system at all - neither incoming nor outgoing. if i check the Hand Free service it would take it but go right back to unchecked once i open settings again after saving.
without touching the address book download (or lack thereof) issue - did you have to jump through any hoops to make it work initially or did you just pair and it started working?
TIA


This is the same problem I had with my 07 328i BMW and my blackjack. When I upgraded to the leaked WM6 ROM, I initially had success at pairing the two. But after the first successful pairing I've never been able to get them to pair again - or hold the pairing long enough to make or take a call. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the official WM6 release will fix this. Otherwise, it's goodbye blackjack and hello Curve.


Posted by: gmlewis1157

I've searched and searched, and I can't find any new information or any provider confirmation. Do we know for sure yet?


Posted by: pgens

No, we'll never be sure until it is released. We'll just have to wait until the 17th comes and goes.


Posted by: treefrog

I've said it before and I'll say it again... the bluetooth stack on the Blackjack leaves a lot to be desired. I, like many on here, are crossing our fingers that the official WM6 upgrade will help with some of our issues (although I'm really not holding my breath).

For those with the car pairing issues, have you checked around the web that it isn't just a Windows Mobile issue in general... as in, have others with different WM smartphones been able to have success with your car? It's important that you compare to only WM Smartphone (as opposed to Pocket PC), as it's my understanding that these are essentially two completely different sets of code. It's really hard to know what part of the software (or even hardware) is causing your problems... be it MS or Samsung's BT implementation.

And they said BT was supposed to be a "standard". It just seems to have proven time and time again that is certainly not the case.


Posted by: sb0611

Quote:
Originally Posted by treefrog
I've said it before and I'll say it again... the bluetooth stack on the Blackjack leaves a lot to be desired. I, like many on here, are crossing our fingers that the official WM6 upgrade will help with some of our issues (although I'm really not holding my breath).

For those with the car pairing issues, have you checked around the web that it isn't just a Windows Mobile issue in general... as in, have others with different WM smartphones been able to have success with your car? It's important that you compare to only WM Smartphone (as opposed to Pocket PC), as it's my understanding that these are essentially two completely different sets of code. It's really hard to know what part of the software (or even hardware) is causing your problems... be it MS or Samsung's BT implementation.

And they said BT was supposed to be a "standard". It just seems to have proven time and time again that is certainly not the case.


My old Qtek 8310 and 8500 work just fine with my Audi Q7 and both are WM5 phones. Even the old MPX220 worked great - and that is a WM2003 device. The BJ however is crippled like nothing before it! This issue is on Samsung alone!


Posted by: jk5598224

How many of us think 09/17 will come and go with no WM6 for BJ.....


Posted by: crashman1114

the one that is not holding my breadth for a Sept 17 release.

also, is it my imagination, but isn't there a lot more info sync'ed for the tasks in the task application? Like notes, and priority etc...

I don't see many [people cpommenting on this improvement but it is huge for me as I live my life largely based on my task list ;-)

(sad but true)


Posted by: Foxbat121

Quote:
Originally Posted by crashman1114
also, is it my imagination, but isn't there a lot more info sync'ed for the tasks in the task application? Like notes, and priority etc...


IIRC, these info are synced since WM2003. Not new. You just can't create them that way on the phone.


Posted by: Diddy316

try pockettv...its free n its great, not as choppy n slow as WMP
I just use Imtoo 3gp video converter to convert avi files into mpeg1 (which pockettv uses for its video format) n i watch movies n shows all the time on my phone


Posted by: Kevad007

According to my world time program its now Sept. 17th in the locations of Samsung Headquarters and the factories where the Blackjack was assembled (including where they stripped it of WiFi ). Time to let the Official Mobile 6 loose for the masses. Come on Samsung, you can do it, if AT&T said a specific time zone then just blame it on a web site error . Hopefully it comes in the next 24 or so hours and it is 10 steps forward without the "and several steps backwards!"


Posted by: ghstintheshell

everything does read as the upgrade being avilable "starting" sept,17th. So that could be from this date onward.........who knows anymore.......the witching hour is hopefully upon us


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

is it here yet? hopefully i get answer before i leave for school


Posted by: PointZero

3:45 AM here on the west coast, approaching 7:00 on the east coast. AT&T tech support doesn't even go online for another hour. I think the update will go live around noon eastern time.


Posted by: acoletta

When it goes live, where do you think we can download it from Samsung or AT&T's site? Where on AT&T wireless site do they put downloads for phones?


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

^^AT&T site and direction from samsung


Posted by: jamesfaulkner

the live chat on cingular/att website is a joke they "dont have that type of information". As far as the phone support (611 on cingular phones) im on their business account and the gentleman that i spoke to laughed when i told him about the todays supposed release date and said that there is no projected date. Im at that point where im about to cancel my business account and go back to Sprint.


Posted by: jamesfaulkner

Im on the Eastern Time Zone its 8:44am here


Posted by: jamesfaulkner

anyone else try calling att


Posted by: player911

Its 9:30 and no word.


Posted by: jhruth

Might be faster just to wait and buy the Moto Q9, which also might be a reason the upgrade isn't out yet? Maybe they're going to release the upgrade and the Q9 at the same time so the Blackjack and the Q9 will both have WM6 at the same time...


Posted by: player911

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhruth
Might be faster just to wait and buy the Moto Q9, which also might be a reason the upgrade isn't out yet? Maybe they're going to release the upgrade and the Q9 at the same time so the Blackjack and the Q9 will both have WM6 at the same time...


I dunno. While I can see your point... Why would you want to have 2 competing phones released the same time?

The best way to do this is to release one for a month or two to drive sales, then when it slows down, release the Q9.

Or they'll do it in reverse. Release the Q9 and wait until sales drops before releasing the WM6 Blackjack update.

I hope its the first option.


Posted by: snoVVman

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhruth
Might be faster just to wait and buy the Moto Q9, which also might be a reason the upgrade isn't out yet? Maybe they're going to release the upgrade and the Q9 at the same time so the Blackjack and the Q9 will both have WM6 at the same time...


I have the Q9m, and it does not compare to the Blackjack in terms of form factor. The Q9m is just as large as the Q (perhaps a bit larger). Yes, the keypad is an improvement over the Q, but I really like the slimness of the BJ for daily carry.


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesfaulkner
Im at that point where im about to cancel my business account and go back to Sprint.


if ATT forced me to go to run MSDOS on my BJ it would not be enough to make me want to go back to Sprint.


Posted by: Nastronomical

Bad News Guys. Its gonna be for 10/21

http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...cending&page=11


Posted by: Foxbat121

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nastronomical
Bad News Guys. Its gonna be for 10/21


All I read is 10/1, not 10/21.


Posted by: Parsonsbri

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foxbat121
All I read is 10/1, not 10/21.


yup. 10/1. And thats if no more MSFT delays on bug fixes.

here is the email from ATT insiders below:

Subject: RE: Update on Windows Mobile Devices Launch Dates

As promised, will send out a mail every Friday updating you on our Windows Mobile 6 device launch status...changes from last week in blue below. We had a pretty bad day yesterday with some major delays coming down from the vendors and the lab. Most of the delays in question are Microsoft issues - i.e. bug fixes that MSFT has to provide and therefore additional time as they have to be created by MSFT, then go to the vendor for integration and validation and then go to the lab for regression...basically a MSFT issue requires an extra step vs a vendor only issue.

All of the new devices below are WM 6 except for the low cost EDGE device which will launch with WM5 and be upgradeable to WM6 at a later date that is not currently defined (will be as soon as possible but the vendor will not begin scoping work on 6 until the existing product is launched so schedule is TBD).

Maintenance Releases to Windows Mobile 6 for existing devices:

BlackJack - Target TA 10/1
8525 - Target TA 10/26
Treo 750 - Target TA mid-Dec.

New Device Launches

Voice First/Email Triage Segment (Windows Mobile Standard Edition aka Smartphone OS):
Dual Slider - Target TA 9/28 ; Target Availability 10/15

Value Priced Messaging Segment (Windows Mobile Standard Edition aka Smartphone OS):
Low Cost EDGE device - Target TA 10/12 ; Target Availability 11/5 (reminder this device launches as WM5 and will be upgradeable to WM6 at a later date that is TBD)
Motorola Q - Target TA 9/21 ; Target Availability 10/8
BlackJack 2 - Target TA 10/22; Target Availability TBD


Posted by: ReDRoVeR

waaaaaah!!!!!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

LOL guess I can wait another week or 3


Posted by: jhruth

Blackjack 2 ? Screw WM6 ! What's a Blackjack 2 ??!?


Posted by: cerebuspu

yeah i know..whats this blackjack2? shucks...my new blackjack feels unloved already. no upgrades..and a replacement on teh way.


Posted by: Parsonsbri

I didn't even catch the BJ2. Interesting. should be able to find something about that.

By the way, I have been looking for the WM6 "pre release" but the original link is bad. Anyone know where I can get it?


Posted by: Haligan-Tool

Ok, since the real version is not coming out right now. I am thinking about installing the leaked version. Is it installed like the Samsung web site describes installing WM5 with modem drivers and putting the BJ in usb mode?


Posted by: kneustadt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haligan-Tool
Ok, since the real version is not coming out right now. I am thinking about installing the leaked version. Is it installed like the Samsung web site describes installing WM5 with modem drivers and putting the BJ in usb mode?


Yes, carefully follow their instructions step by step and you should have no problems. I've been successfully running the leaked version for over a month now and except for the still *!$%#!% - up bluetooth stack (still can't sync to my '07 BMW), it's really been solid. Good luck.


Posted by: luv2hum

is anyone actually surprised that there is no update on september 17th????


Posted by: MDIFILM

wish there is a leaked version of the almost readied wm6.


Posted by: Kevad007

This excuse for further delay smells if it is even real! Mobile 6 has an upgrade/fix download metod built in. It lacks credibility that these so called bugs were not known back in May. If in fact minor odd bugs were recently found how likely is it they would really generate service calls or be a burden to at&t? If everyone started calling for Mobile 6 perhaps they'd realize their delays are more of a problem than alleged bugs that are Microsoft's fault. I don't doubt there were bugs Microsoft had to address, I just don't fully accept that they took this long to flush them out. Getting Mobile 6 out has demonstrated a pathetic process between manufs., service providers and Microsoft. Maybe that's the goal, they want us to go Apple?


Posted by: SilverJack

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haligan-Tool
Ok, since the real version is not coming out right now. I am thinking about installing the leaked version. Is it installed like the Samsung web site describes installing WM5 with modem drivers and putting the BJ in usb mode?

This is the original leaked beta wm6 for the blackjack.
**NOT THE ONE THATS SUPPOSED TO BE RELEASED TODAY**
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1JLRK4P8


Posted by: fishepa

Can someone point me to the Samsung website that gives these directions?

Thanks!


Posted by: Parsonsbri

[QUOTE=Kevad007]This excuse for further delay smells if it is even real!/QUOTE]

I really dont understand the conspiracy theories. The email came from an insider who does not have time to make this stuff up and just forwarded it to me. Besides, ATT has always been very conservative about standardizing hardware and software. Go ahead and go to Apple. Enjoy. Like that thing is perfect.


Posted by: kneustadt

Quote:
Originally Posted by fishepa
Can someone point me to the Samsung website that gives these directions?

Thanks!


Go to Samsung.com, find "Support", click on SGH-i607 bottom left, click on FAQs, then scroll down to "Popular Questions". Click on Popular Question #1, " What Does The Software Update For My SGH-i607 (BlackJack) Change And How Can I Obtain This Update?", make sure popups are enabled and you're there.


Posted by: fishepa

I tried to upgrade, and my phone is stuck on the reflashing screen, any way to turn it off now?


Posted by: fishepa

Nevermind, got it working.


Posted by: Parsonsbri

Just upgraded (leaked version) with no issues. Everything works fine except the side button (back with short press) is not working. Interesting. Otherwise, some nice items that others have previously mentioned. the picture looks sharper as well.


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

no way there a blackajck 2 cuz it doesnt stay quite untill a month before its targeted realease usually its out with rumors for months


Posted by: luv2hum

have you tried hanging up from a phone call yet? is that working for ya ok?


Posted by: gmlewis1157

I just flashed my phone (took 10 minutes) with the leaked WM6 ROM. No big deal, and with the leaked version, I think I can wait two more weeks without having to check back here everyday for news about the real WM6!


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

^^i did too **** it i was planning on getting a ipod touch now im thinking about Q9h


Posted by: luv2hum

i would like to see a lock screen cab for 8525


Posted by: itmobileguy

Just got off the phone with AT&T Level 2 Technical Support. They advised me to look to http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/6/ for updates on upgrade availability.

When I advised the representative that this site is not a good source of information as it does not even list the Cingular 8525 upgrade which is available, he advised that there was no further information available at this time and that they were working in conjunction with the phone manufacturer to obtain this update.

I guess that it is time to flood both Samsung and AT&T with email requests for a difinitive date as telephonically you will just get BS’ed.
Or mabye we should all just switch to Verizon or Sprint as they know how to keep up with today’s constantly changing technology.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I thought everyone would like to know this informaiton.


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

Quote:
Originally Posted by itmobileguy
I guess that it is time to flood both Samsung and AT&T with email requests for a difinitive date as telephonically you will just get BS’ed.

we done that we get the same bs


Posted by: nvisi0n

- startrant - It just so happens that I have been using the leak for months now and TODAY the day the original is due out the leaked OS decided to take a giant shat on me. Out of nowhere today my pc loses it's MBR and needed an FDISK. As I am fixing that I notice my battery is dying and the backlight wont turn off. I hard reset and guess what, here is the constant "H" and the overheating battery. F Microsoft. - endrant -


Posted by: player911

Well this sucks. Once again spoofed by the almighty giant.

Dell did the same thing. "Oh check out this website and download WM6". Yea that'd work if the Microsoft WM6 had downloads other then the developer kit. What do they think we're gonna do... make it for them?

Its all basically a bunch of bad Customer Service with no real answer.

As much as I wanted the WM6 update to come out today, I know it wouldn't. With the Motorola Q9m coming out soon, and the blackjack 2... releasing WM6 would only hurt their sales (why buy a new WM6 phone when I can just upgrade my blackjack).

Yea I think WM6 will be released, someday. I highly doubt that it will be released before either one of those new phones.


Posted by: sashakla

Quote:
Originally Posted by kneustadt
Yes, carefully follow their instructions step by step and you should have no problems. I've been successfully running the leaked version for over a month now and except for the still *!$%#!% - up bluetooth stack (still can't sync to my '07 BMW), it's really been solid. Good luck.

are you able to make/receive calls using your car's BT? Mine (original WM5) pairs successfully but doesn't work properly afterwards, refusing to connect to the car.


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

got a question about the leaked verison does it improved your signal cuz i get none in my school


Posted by: alphaivt

The mods should really change the title of this thread... VERY deceiving...


Posted by: Parsonsbri

Quote:
Originally Posted by xSNOWCAT
got a question about the leaked verison does it improved your signal cuz i get none in my school


I have been using it for the past 24 hours or so with no appreciable difference in signal. Seems to work the same.

I did notice yesterday that my battery time was reduced which seems contrary to what I had been reading. I did notice what some others had reported that the battery got hot and afer that the unit drained quickly.
however, I turned it off, recharged last night and have been using since 6am with no "hot battery" and it seems to be working fine.

I do like the improved graphics and some of the other minor changes. however,there does not seem to be much here to get all excited about so far except for the improved graphics. .


Posted by: kneustadt

Quote:
Originally Posted by sashakla
are you able to make/receive calls using your car's BT? Mine (original WM5) pairs successfully but doesn't work properly afterwards, refusing to connect to the car.


No, I'm not able to make or receive calls using BT in my car ('07 BMW 328i). Strangely, when I upgraded to the leaked WM6, I was initially able to pair to my car and it worked perfectly, but only that one time. I've never been able to successfully pair since. I was never able to to get WM5 to pair.


Posted by: servoisgod

The issue with the hot battery is that the data isn't switching off and is polling AT&T network. The reason I say that is because I too had that issue and noticed that my data connection was active.

I went into the Wireless Manager and disconnected the data. Once I did that, the battery seemed to cool down.

Just and observation.

Thanks,
Aaron


Posted by: Parsonsbri

Quote:
Originally Posted by servoisgod
The issue with the hot battery is that the data isn't switching off and is polling AT&T network. The reason I say that is because I too had that issue and noticed that my data connection was active.

I went into the Wireless Manager and disconnected the data. Once I did that, the battery seemed to cool down.

Just and observation.

Thanks,
Aaron


actually, I meant to repost. Monday nigh the battery was super hot and drained quickly. I charged it up over night and it has been operating normally since. I have been using data regularly and no issues. Works great.


Posted by: cypher_OS

Hey fellow blackjacker's

FIRST POST!!

I just bought 2 blackjacks, one older test mule and a nice shiny new one. Going to do all the software abuse on the test mule in preparation for a final solid build of WM6 on what will become my daily phone.

Downloaded the beta ROM and will give it a go, Really hope the final is ready 10/1!!


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by cypher_OS
Hey fellow blackjacker's

FIRST POST!!




You know where you are
You're in the jungle baby
You're gonna die
In the jungle
Welcome to the jungle

Seriously, welcome aboard!

Good luck with the mule, my mules keep getting caught by customs.


Posted by: player911

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvisi0n
Good luck with the mule, my mules keep getting caught by customs.


lmao thats funny. I thought I was the only one.


Posted by: cypher_OS

Well have both phones in possession, updated to WM 6 on the test phone and everything seems good so far, shiny new interface, faster speeds, everything seems to work except for the hold a key to get alternate symbol which may be an option somewhere. Anyway Im a few hours in and ive noticed nothing but good on the rom in terms or running fast and stability.

Does anyone know where to get the WM5.o ATT rom from??


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by cypher_OS
Does anyone know where to get the WM5.o ATT rom from??


samsung.com - BJ page - FAQ


Posted by: cypher_OS

I don't think its there anymore, I combed the entire BJ section. WM6 is freakin sweet, def needs the amperage of the extended batt, the smaller batt gets warm.

Anyone found a work around for the hold key = alt character function?

Also noticed I cannot sync the wm6 to activesync, has anyone done this successfully??


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by cypher_OS
I don't think its there anymore, I combed the entire BJ section. WM6 is freakin sweet, def needs the amperage of the extended batt, the smaller batt gets warm.

Anyone found a work around for the hold key = alt character function?

Also noticed I cannot sync the wm6 to activesync, has anyone done this successfully??


http://www.samsung.com/us/support/f...dType=D&vType=R

Yes, it is still there.

Yes, AS still works with WM6.


Posted by: cypher_OS

Do you have a direct link? that link just goes to the same page I was looking on which has software but no roms listed.

Im still having issues with getting the PC to see the wm6 phone but I've only had wm6 for a few hours so it may need some more hackin'


Posted by: redlinerocket

None of those links worked to download the update to WM6


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by redlinerocket
None of those links worked to download the update to WM6


http://sithtech.net/uploads/i607UCGD2.exe


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by cypher_OS
Do you have a direct link? that link just goes to the same page I was looking on which has software but no roms listed.

Im still having issues with getting the PC to see the wm6 phone but I've only had wm6 for a few hours so it may need some more hackin'


Clcik that link and on the page click on "What Does The Software Update For My SGH-i607 (BlackJack) Change And How Can I Obtain This Update?"

Be sure pop up blockers are off.


Posted by: MDIFILM

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvisi0n


is this wm6 the leaked version?


Posted by: nvisi0n

yessir....


Posted by: SHoTTa35

are you using the OLD ActiveSync? You need 4.5 to sync WM6 devices. My Blackjack with the normal battery lasts all day in a 3G environment. Yeah i make some calls (probably 2hrs worth) and send some text and play with the phone as well as 1 or 2 MMS (and other data) and when i got home yesterday i had 2 bars. Went home to a 1 bar EDGE area (GRRRR) then talked to the girlfriend from 6:38pm - 7:47pm then another call from 8-8:30pm before it beeped at me that it was dying.

The FN key was designed for the alt character function but i think Samsung just added the press and hold feature since they figured some people would be lazy.

As for the WM5 link, did you look?

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...D=0&PROD_ID=751

or more directly here: http://www.samsungwireless.com/tech...ack_Upgrade.zip

Just incase you were lazy

PS - I'm just teasing - i like to poke fun


Posted by: Parsonsbri

Quote:
Originally Posted by SHoTTa35
are you using the OLD ActiveSync? You need 4.5 to sync WM6 devices. My Blackjack with the normal battery lasts all day in a 3G environment. Yeah i make some calls (probably 2hrs worth) and send some text and play with the phone as well as 1 or 2 MMS (and other data) and when i got home yesterday i had 2 bars. Went home to a 1 bar EDGE area (GRRRR) then talked to the girlfriend from 6:38pm - 7:47pm then another call from 8-8:30pm before it beeped at me that it was dying.

The FN key was designed for the alt character function but i think Samsung just added the press and hold feature since they figured some people would be lazy.

As for the WM5 link, did you look?

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...D=0&PROD_ID=751

or more directly here: http://www.samsungwireless.com/tech...ack_Upgrade.zip

Just incase you were lazy

PS - I'm just teasing - i like to poke fun


I tried this three times the other day until I called Samsung support and the tech, with a sigh like she has said it a thousand times, HAVE YOU TURNED OFF YOUR POP UP BLOCKER? MORON?. The moron part was for effect, but the point is that it is easy to get involved in the process and forget to turn it off. Once you do that, you will see the correct download screen.

I have been using "WM6 leaked" for a few days and except for a battery issue out of the gate, it has worked flawlessly since. Batery time is better and the interface is much better. I am sure the feature that allows you to hold down a key to get the alternates symbol will be back in the final version.

Enjoy!


Posted by: gothaggis

so i upgraded my phone to have the latest rom a few months ago

still running wm5. now i want to upgrade to wm6. i have downloaded the wm6 file. are there instructions on what i need to do to upgrade?


Posted by: txcaesar

1) download the file
2) turn your phone off
3) plug your phone into your computer while it is off
4) run the program
5) put your phone in flash mode (hold the side "back" key, the right soft key, and press the power button all at the same time)
6) your computer will recognize the device
7) ActiveSync popped up saying it couldn't connect-- click "do not connect through USB" (or something to that effect)
8) press start
9) let it install and BINGO, you're done

This is a cut/paste from ARHYTHMATIK to give credit.


Posted by: txcaesar

Nvision, or anyone one else that has riddent this WM^ journey from the beginning with me.....ive done a 2nd BJ with WM6, taken a third back down to WM5..(god I am such a phone geek) all good, exceppppppttttt...

....the Mobile center on Vista is not seeing my phone, (WM6 one) any suggestions?


Posted by: gothaggis

Hmm, I tried that, but it didn't work (the Start button is greyed out). Here is the log from the program:

[StartDownload => 0] StartDownload !!
[PDA] Connect and Power-on the Device.
[PDA]Device Not Found.

Do I need to have the modem driver installed that I used for the ROM update?


Posted by: Parsonsbri

Quote:
Originally Posted by gothaggis
so i upgraded my phone to have the latest rom a few months ago

still running wm5. now i want to upgrade to wm6. i have downloaded the wm6 file. are there instructions on what i need to do to upgrade?


If you have the WM5 instructions, follow them and then simply select the WM6 file instead of the WM5 file to install.

You can still get the instructions at the samsung website, or I could email them to you.


Posted by: gothaggis

yeah looks like it just needed the modem driver. reinstalled it and it worked! thanks very much!


Posted by: cypher_OS

Quote:
Originally Posted by SHoTTa35

As for the WM5 link, did you look?

http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...D=0&PROD_ID=751

or more directly here: http://www.samsungwireless.com/tech...ack_Upgrade.zip

Just incase you were lazy

PS - I'm just teasing - i like to poke fun


Thx a bunch, must have a built in pop up blocker in firefox, just installed the browser a few days ago. I think I am going to DL all these ROMS and host them for centralized organization.


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by txcaesar
Nvision, or anyone one else that has riddent this WM^ journey from the beginning with me.....ive done a 2nd BJ with WM6, taken a third back down to WM5..(god I am such a phone geek) all good, exceppppppttttt...

....the Mobile center on Vista is not seeing my phone, (WM6 one) any suggestions?



I hate myself for asking, but did you enable USB connections?


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by gothaggis
Hmm, I tried that, but it didn't work (the Start button is greyed out). Here is the log from the program:

[StartDownload => 0] StartDownload !!
[PDA] Connect and Power-on the Device.
[PDA]Device Not Found.

Do I need to have the modem driver installed that I used for the ROM update?


What OS is your PC running? If its Vista, you need special drivers, if its XP its an issue with the official driver (not installed?)


Posted by: TheRemedy

Ok I have been sitting on the fence about WM6. Since it is delayed I figured I would try the beta. Now I never use activesnyc because it always screws up my phone contacts everytime I sync it wants to put every contact I have in outlook on my phone even though I do not want this. I want to the my phone contacts to minimum.

Now the big problem. Since I figured my upgrade would wipe out my phone contacts. I wanted to sync. I deleted all of my outlook contacts thinking it would now re-sync only what is on my phone. WRONG! It wiped out all of my contacts on the phone! WTF!!!!! What is the best plan of attack? They are no longer in my deleted folder and I can find no recover option..... this is home PC btw. Would a XP system recovery work?

Help! WM6 is not starting off good for me.


Posted by: pgens

You deleted your contacts and the phone synchronized itself with the state of the PC's outlook file, which is zero contacts. AS is smart enough to know when an existing contact has been deleted and when a new contact has been added that needs to be sync'd to the PC, so it did what you told it to do (without knowing what you told it to do) and wiped the contacts on the BJ just like you did on the PC.

Recovery should be as easy as copying your backup of your outlook PST file over the existing version on your PC.

Were any of your phone-only contacts copied to your SIM card? That is probably a good way to back up the contacts you need on the phone


Posted by: TheRemedy

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgens
You deleted your contacts and the phone synchronized itself with the state of the PC's outlook file, which is zero contacts. AS is smart enough to know when an existing contact has been deleted and when a new contact has been added that needs to be sync'd to the PC, so it did what you told it to do (without knowing what you told it to do) and wiped the contacts on the BJ just like you did on the PC.

Recovery should be as easy as copying your backup of your outlook PST file over the existing version on your PC.

Were any of your phone-only contacts copied to your SIM card? That is probably a good way to back up the contacts you need on the phone


Thanks for the reply. Were is my back up PST file? I do have some contacts on my SIM but most were not.

Is this always the case with sync? It will always update the phone to the PC config and never vise versa?


Posted by: pgens

It will update the phone to the PC when a new contact is entered on the phone. If you think of the process as "do to each device whatever happened on the other device since the last time I synchronized" that may help understand it.

Your backup of your PST file is wherever you may have copied it to or what your backup program of choice did with it. I probably should have prefaced that suggestion with "if you back up your important data."


Posted by: TheRemedy

Quote:
Originally Posted by pgens
It will update the phone to the PC when a new contact is entered on the phone. If you think of the process as "do to each device whatever happened on the other device since the last time I synchronized" that may help understand it.

Your backup of your PST file is wherever you may have copied it to or what your backup program of choice did with it. I probably should have prefaced that suggestion with "if you back up your important data."


Thanks for the info. It appears I'm SOL.


Posted by: jhruth

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheRemedy
Thanks for the info. It appears I'm SOL.


For future reference this is where an exchange server comes in very handy b/c then all your data is backed up remotely on a secure server. Even if you lost your phone and PC all at once you'd still have all your contacts etc.... With WM6 and Outlook '07 you can even remotely whip out the phone if you think it's been stolen.....

I use www.4smartphone.net as an example... and there are even other FREE services out there....

Good luck


Posted by: txcaesar

Still no comments on why mobile center wont recognize a BJ on Vista?


Posted by: nvisi0n

Quote:
Originally Posted by txcaesar
Still no comments on why mobile center wont recognize a BJ on Vista?


Did you re-enable USB connections after you disabled them for the upgrade?


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvisi0n
Did you re-enable USB connections after you disabled them for the upgrade?


Thanks nvision; yes..and scouring the web, I've seen other ppl running the same issues as I have, I was just hoping to see if anyone here has ditto going on.


Posted by: snathanb

Quote:
Originally Posted by txcaesar
Still no comments on why mobile center wont recognize a BJ on Vista?


I had that happen... vista stopped recognizing my blackjack and my dell axim. A quick reinstall of mobile center fixed the issue.


Posted by: xSNOWCAT

nooo just yesterday i got the hot battery issue, after a week with nothing. then i had 2 bars left in my battery within a hour it was dead wtf


Posted by: player911

Hmmm. I've been running WM6 for months now without ever having the hot battery issue. Perhaps your running a crazy program that is hogging up resources. Sometimes if a program locks up it'll do that, games especially. Perhaps IE locked up and held the connection open. I've seen it do that before.


As far as Vista... I don't have a problem either. I just plugged the phone in, and did a Windows Update. It saw the device and downloaded the drivers and WM Device Center.

It automatically synced up. I would suggest deleting any partnerships and starting over.


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by snathanb
I had that happen... vista stopped recognizing my blackjack and my dell axim. A quick reinstall of mobile center fixed the issue.


Thanks! That did it!


Posted by: jeffreykime

Is anyone else having problems adding mp3 songs as ringtones in the wm6 beta that's out? I'm having no problems with the wm6 beta except for that. I have my songs saved on my memory card and it worked fine with wm5. I tried moving them to various folders on the mobile device and that didn't fix my problem.

I'd love any suggestions.


Posted by: SHoTTa35

are you putting the songs in the /Application Data/Sounds folder or what? I think Samsung custom cooked the rom to allow them from My Documents and the like but normally that's the folder they have to go into. With WM6 beta we have i'd assume that's probably one of the reasons why it's not working. My ringtones work fine but then again i use WMAs since they are smaller and generally louder/cleaner.


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffreykime
Is anyone else having problems adding mp3 songs as ringtones in the wm6 beta that's out? I'm having no problems with the wm6 beta except for that. I have my songs saved on my memory card and it worked fine with wm5. I tried moving them to various folders on the mobile device and that didn't fix my problem.

I'd love any suggestions.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read in one of the posts that in WM6 there was a size limitation on MP3s as ringtones....


Posted by: jeffreykime

Quote:
Originally Posted by txcaesar
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read in one of the posts that in WM6 there was a size limitation on MP3s as ringtones....


Do you know what that size limit was? My mp3 are both over 1mg. I converted them to wma files and that didn't work either.


Posted by: SHoTTa35

and where are you putting them? All my WMAs are like 64-256KB. It seems there might be some limit tho, I copied a 2.5MB WMA from my music to that folder and it didn't show up either.Why would you want a 1MB mp3 tho? Seriously? It's a 15-30 second clip at the most, 1MB just for that? "Dude, seriously!?" (hehe, can you smell the ocean people? SGH!)


Posted by: siliconvalley78

I have found the hack to remove the limitation on MP3 ringtones. The limit in place was 300K. The information is available here: http://i607.org/wiki/doku.php?id=mp3s_as_ringtones

Pritesh


Posted by: Rune1

Want ot load the WM 6 Beta from that link @ Megaload but wondered about a backup if it doesn't work properly. Anyone know if I can get it back to WM5 by using the Activesync back or a Sprite backup saved to my card? Do you these backups have the firmware and everything I need?

Thanks


Posted by: txcaesar

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rune1
Want ot load the WM 6 Beta from that link @ Megaload but wondered about a backup if it doesn't work properly. Anyone know if I can get it back to WM5 by using the Activesync back or a Sprite backup saved to my card? Do you these backups have the firmware and everything I need?

Thanks


Rune, if you follow the threads, there is a link to samsungs site that will roll back to WM5. i and others have done it, so its not a big issue to do at all..worst case, I have the file you can use if need be.

Also, you can use my site which is ad free, and a bit faster or so ive been told, to dl WM6 beta:

http://dan.omefilms.com/apps/i607UCGD2.exe

Also in the folder http://dan.omefilms.com/apps are some apps you can use:
1)app unlock to sw unlock the phone
2)omap - to overclock the processor
3)regedit for editing the registry of WM6
4)wma comvert - to rip the media licensing off of the phone and convert to mp3

5)audacity - to shorten mp3s to make ringtones
6)J9 for using gmail and gmaps (also have those up there as well)

yall feel free to use, and let me know if it helps!

Dan


Posted by: jeffreykime

Quote:
Originally Posted by SHoTTa35
and where are you putting them? All my WMAs are like 64-256KB. It seems there might be some limit tho, I copied a 2.5MB WMA from my music to that folder and it didn't show up either.Why would you want a 1MB mp3 tho? Seriously? It's a 15-30 second clip at the most, 1MB just for that? "Dude, seriously!?" (hehe, can you smell the ocean people? SGH!)


I cut down the size of the mp3 and it worked for the ringtone. Thanks for the advice. I have a bunch of songs that I listen to on my memory card and have had fun putting different songs for different people. It's easier copying new songs from my computer and using them as ringtones than chopping down songs all the time. That's too much work. I might try that hack to get rid of the limit.




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