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The Official HTC S630 (Cavalier) Thread

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Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by martinctv
If you know for sure that it was not used, then I would say $450-$475

I got my Dopod for 450$ few months ago. If it is opened but unused I would say 400$ is a good price.

Cheers



Posted by: Prom1

Quote:
Originally Posted by karlgeez
Now here is where I need help. I want a dialer screen with the letters on the numbers for alpha numberic dialing, On my dash (excaliber) it was the branding brick file and I also tried the ms_mobile_oem... I got the incall screen changed but the first screen after dialing or hitting the phone key it says SMARTPHONE in the upper right hand corner - Thats what I want to replace with any of the widely available keypads with a att logo...

I'm not the one normally asking for support but ummm HELP!

And watch out for a full review and comparison to the Dash @ AtA


I CANNOT WAIT for your full review - make it a nice indepth video review as youtube has very few useful vid reviews. I still like this phones form factor.

I also noticed that you associate some entries - like you VM pw, lol , as by letter association ? hmmm. Smart inquiry regardless.



Posted by: slim724

anyone have any luck using 4GB SDHC with S630? by luck I mean loading it up past 2GB and still having it function correctly, I thought I read somewhere that it was compatible



Posted by: ol2

Hi
I am using a D730 with WM6, trying to get my mail and attachments stored on the storage card.
The registry edits for this are working to direct the mail onto the storage card, but when the phone boots up, the storage card does not start soon enough and the mail program creates a "Storage Card" directory in main memory. Then when the "real" storage card starts, the phone renames it to "Storage Card2" which messes everything up big time.
Anyone got any ideas on how to fix this? Please help.
I have tried renaming the in-memory storage card directory to "Storage Card.bak" and rebooting, but then I get yet another "Storage Card" created in main memory in addition to the "Storage Card.bak" and "Storage Card2".



Posted by: jboppw

Any one achieved to setup the Internet Calling - VOIP on their Dopod C730?
I have used WM6VoIP.CAB but this doesn't seem to be designed for Smartphones.
Any hints would be much appreciated.



Posted by: ol2

Quote:
Originally Posted by jboppw
Any one achieved to setup the Internet Calling - VOIP on their Dopod C730?
I have used WM6VoIP.CAB but this doesn't seem to be designed for Smartphones.
Any hints would be much appreciated.


See "How to configure VoIP/SIP client in WM6" on xda-developers. Here is the link:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299950



Posted by: maevro

When using either model (HTC or Dopod), does anyone miss the touchscreen & WM6 Professional? Every smartphone I have had I really hated because of the lack of touchscreen (except for the Nokia e62).

I have a friend (phone supplier) who is offering to give me either the Dopod c730 or Motorola Q9H and I don't know which one to take. I am really a fan of touchscreen but I hear good things about the c730.



Posted by: Clueless87

I just got the Dopod C730, and I am having a problem with the internet. All the other functions work fine, and I can get the internet/email through the Wi-Fi connection, but it says there is a connection error when I try to connect to the internet through AT&T. I upgraded my service to unlimited data/smartphone with AT&T, but this didn't work. AT&T's customer service would not help -- they said they do not support the phone, and it is not compatible with their service. I know that's not true, but I can't figure out what's wrong. The dealer who sold it to me programmed it to work on AT&T, and the settings they put in seem to correspond with everything I could find on the Web. Any help would be appreciates.



Posted by: wilkewhaq

I have been playing around with my home screen xml files and added some plugins, but sometimes the phone will not start up after some changes. It's like the xml file can't load yet when I change the homescreen it works perfectly. Each time this happens I have had to reflash the phone, has anyone else had this problem?



Posted by: disflex

how do I run cab files on the phone??? does that mean my phone is locked?



Posted by: rabbivj

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clueless87
I just got the Dopod C730, and I am having a problem with the internet. All the other functions work fine, and I can get the internet/email through the Wi-Fi connection, but it says there is a connection error when I try to connect to the internet through AT&T. I upgraded my service to unlimited data/smartphone with AT&T, but this didn't work. AT&T's customer service would not help -- they said they do not support the phone, and it is not compatible with their service. I know that's not true, but I can't figure out what's wrong. The dealer who sold it to me programmed it to work on AT&T, and the settings they put in seem to correspond with everything I could find on the Web. Any help would be appreciates.


I believe the settings for the dash work as well...search the forums for them and you should be ok.



Posted by: Clueless87

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbivj
I believe the settings for the dash work as well...search the forums for them and you should be ok.




Thanks, I will try that. One other questions: Does it matter what kind of data plan I have with AT&T, or can I have any data plan with unlimited data?



Posted by: Clueless87

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbivj
I believe the settings for the dash work as well...search the forums for them and you should be ok.



Just wanted to say THANKS! I tried it, and it works perfectly. The dealer had all of the settings wrong. Again, thanks so much.



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clueless87
Thanks, I will try that. One other questions: Does it matter what kind of data plan I have with AT&T, or can I have any data plan with unlimited data?

It does not matter what kind of data plan you have with AT&T unless you are using the Cingular ISP AP, don't let them fool you



Posted by: Quatre

great so it seems that most all merchants HTC S630's are being held by customs for some reason.

can't get one. I wanted the HTC version not the dopod but it seems like it some ways the dopod version is better somaybe just should do that.

I had ordered an HTC s630 the end of August and never got it, the company told me all of their S630 were being held by customs due to some issue even though they have all their paperwork and whatever (customs: all your s630 are belong to us)

so I canceled my order and told them to tell me when they get them in and i'll see what the price is then.

At this point though i'm wondering what are smartphones might be available and have the same abilities as the Cavalier.

I think the s730 is due soon like Oct. 12 so maybe just wait for that.

Any other smartphones or ppc phones like the Cavalier that will work on ATT in the US (i guess they have to be quad band) have 3g and wifi? and a slim form factor.

this would be to replace a blackjack so the form factor is somewhat important but mostly just that it has a good qwerty and 3g and wifi is somewhat important though i end up ony use that at home mostly.

so there is a gsm/umts/hsdpa Q now? the Q9h? that is quad band so will work on ATT in the us? doesn't have wifi though right

what other phones are there at this point similiar to the s630 that one might consider or should i just give up on the htc s630 version and get the dopod c730 version.



Posted by: monakh

Wow this thread has suddenly come back to life. I wonder why the sudden surge of interest in the Cav? What with all the hoopla around the Kaiser's release, you would think HTC's ******* child would be long forgotten.

I think this is a great phone that is being held back by some software issues. It's too bad HTC won't pay attention to it. I wonder if they read this thread? HTC, give us our tweaked ROM without any input issues in .net apps. Sheesh.



Posted by: Quatre

kaiser is a totally diff type of phone being larger and being a ppc though right.

if you want a slim qwerty smartphone with 3g and wifi that is quad band to work on ATT in the US, this is one of if not the only choice.

its the only thing really that makes a good upgrade to a samsung blackjack as the s630 has wifi and is overall a good upgrade from a blackjack.



Posted by: LOMLFOML

HP is coming out with a new series of Ipaqs, including the 900 series which appears from the various specs released to have everything the HTC has, and more. You can find it on pdadb.net among other places. AT&T is likely to sell it, it is said. It's unclear whether the number will be 910, 914, 912 or whatever. Frankly, it looks great, but it will probably be pricey. The advantage of having a US Carrier pick it up outweighs a lot, in my mind, and I will wait for it, or at least for a while. Also Motorola Q9 Global is coming out at AT&T. This is also very very similar.



Posted by: travon802

Quote:
great so it seems that most all merchants HTC S630's are being held by customs for some reason.


Is this most merchants or just the one you dealt with? I spoke with Paul from superiorgadgets and he said he has them.



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by travon802
Is this most merchants or just the one you dealt with? I spoke with Paul from superiorgadgets and he said he has them.

just received mine, got it from B/S/T here on HoFo, $380.00 shipped, brand new, I got lucky



Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by travon802
Is this most merchants or just the one you dealt with? I spoke with Paul from superiorgadgets and he said he has them.


The issue was because the US banned qualcom not so long ago and any device that had qualcom chipset was seized. Now the US Government has stoped the "embargo" for the time being and you can get your device.

Cheers



Posted by: slim724

are the dash MMS settings for AT&T working? I tried using the 3125's settings off of AT&T's site, but they don't seem to work, I might have entered something wrong, also how can I view Yahoo mail's full site? whenver I go there I get MEdiaNet's wap Yahoo site with no option to view PC version, I think I remember with my Blackjack I had to do a regedit to change my mobile ID to windowsPC, and not windows mobile to get it to work, do I have to do the same hack in order to view PC version on the S630?



Posted by: RazzyRas

hey i got this phone last month in hk I have been using it with a silicon case. I was just wondering if there are any compatible leather cases or holsters that I can easily get for the c730 which means I can buy them sat a cell phone accessory store or at pacific mall in toronto without ordering online. Let me know what cases you guys are using. I thought the blackberry 8800 leather cases are compatible with the c730 as their sizes are similar. let me know! thanks in advance



Posted by: jboppw

Did any one successfully installed Mapking on their smartphone Dopod C730.
I got a GPS receiver but failed to find a suitable map (Beijing) that I can install on my smartphone.
all maps seems to be developed for PPC...

Thanks for your help and suggestions of maps.

PS: GoogleMap works great but as far as i am aware, don't offer maps with Chinese characters.



Posted by: mikevans75

Got mine from Paul a couple of days ago. GREAT service as I was able to pick it up within hours in Toronto. He even threw in a screen protector! Great unit that is far better quality than many of the reviews suggest.



Posted by: Clueless87

Does anyone know how to stream Sirius satellite radio through the C730? I found a couple of links for downloads, but one link doesn't work, and the other one downloads but will not run. It says that it is not compatible with the phone.



Posted by: MalPraktiz

I believe the Sirius app is a .NET based app and therefore will only work on a C730 device that does not have the text input problems in .NET based apps. Otherwise, I do recall some people with a working device that did not have any input problems saying it worked.



Posted by: Prom1

Forgive me as I'm not a coder nor a power user, especially in the Windows Mobile space. However, I thought .NET was a module that can be upgraded or replaced? Am I right, and can this be done to the core OS' .NET within the C730/S730 ??



Posted by: Quatre

Quote:
Originally Posted by LOMLFOML
HP is coming out with a new series of Ipaqs, including the 900 series which appears from the various specs released to have everything the HTC has, and more. You can find it on pdadb.net among other places. AT&T is likely to sell it, it is said. It's unclear whether the number will be 910, 914, 912 or whatever. Frankly, it looks great, but it will probably be pricey. The advantage of having a US Carrier pick it up outweighs a lot, in my mind, and I will wait for it, or at least for a while. Also Motorola Q9 Global is coming out at AT&T. This is also very very similar.


yeah but when will the hp 900 series or moto Q9 be out? i need a new smart or ppc phone now as my blackjack is worn & the keybord hs always sucked.

im on it right now btw & its annoying that while other forum sites have a direct link to a mobile version of the page (like avs which isnt even about phones) i find it ironic & inconvenient that hofo a forums about mobile phones doesnt have the same link in email to mobile version of the site. even with 3g the reg version of the site can be long to load. yes i know there is a wap version of the site but no link from email notification to it. who wants to lod the wap site & check every thread you re subscribed to see if there are new replies.

anyway back to smartphones im very frustrated that i ordered a htc s630 cavalier at the end of august, never received it, found out it was stuck in customs & then finaly canceled my order.

now im back to square one. id wait for he htc s730 wings (pref in white) if i had any confidence it was really coming out on oct. 12. but im sure it will be delayed like the rest well beyond that. if i cant get an s630 soon ( i dont really want he dopod version) then ill wait a couple weeks now for the htc s730 but after its delay by then the hp 900 thing or moto q9 will be out & ill prob be due a upgrade credit on one of my lines,heh. (used both on the cing &525 & bj last time when thoe came out) how long have 8525 & bj been out? seems like ages but prob not long enough tha im due an upgrade credit yet. im fine with importing but this new customs delay problem is effed up.



Posted by: Quatre

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibeqa
The issue was because the US banned qualcom not so long ago and any device that had qualcom chipset was seized. Now the US Government has stoped the "embargo" for the time being and you can get your device.

Cheers


banned qualcom chipset? why? stoppd the embargo now, nice of any of the merchants i inquired with to let me know its availble again.

funny that i want the htc version over the dopod wen only the htc has the .net limitations



Posted by: megalli

Help!

My Dopod c730 (which I have had for 3 months and has been great on ATT except for the .NET input issue) has suddenly seems to be dying a strange death:

Basically it will no get past that initial "Dopod Enjoy Mobility" screen to start the OS.

I have not a clue what to do...can't "hard reset" from software because the phone is not working.

Of course I am traveling this week, so it couldnt have come at a worse time.

Any suggestions?



Posted by: MalPraktiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prom1
Forgive me as I'm not a coder nor a power user, especially in the Windows Mobile space. However, I thought .NET was a module that can be upgraded or replaced? Am I right, and can this be done to the core OS' .NET within the C730/S730 ??


You can't replace or remove the version installed on the ROM. But you can install new versions that will live side by side with the one installed when the device is made.

The one limitation is that you can't install a previous version to what is already in the ROM. So if your device comes with .NET CF 2 Service Pack 1 preinstalled in the ROM then you can't install the pre-service pack 1 version of .NET CF 2. You would only be able to install things that come after .NET CF 2 SP 1.



Posted by: URPREY

Quote:
Originally Posted by MalPraktiz
I believe the Sirius app is a .NET based app and therefore will only work on a C730 device that does not have the text input problems in .NET based apps. Otherwise, I do recall some people with a working device that did not have any input problems saying it worked.

The developer provided a workaround for those having the text input (it opens a text entry box when you click to enter the Captcha code. However, there was already a workaround which was simply to play the audio verification and punch in the numbers.

It works great on my C730 and you don't have to do anything other than install SiriusWM5 from GeeksToolBox.com



Posted by: Clueless87

Has anyone had a problem with the Dopod C730 suddenly getting very hot? I was in NYC last night, & it picked up the 3G network -- which was great. But then the phone started to get very hot while it was just sitting in the case not being used. Finally, I turned the phone off. This morning, it's back to normal. I am just wondering if anyone else has had this happen.



Posted by: bocastephen

Is it possible to compile one post with a comprehensive list of cab files, registry hacks, and major customizations - I've read through the thread, but it's hard to keep track of versions, changes, etc.

Perhaps one thread which could be edited by those who create the cabs or found the download links - a one-stop-shop for those who are new to the C730/S630 so we can run through the latest customizations/fixes in order once we receive the phone?

It would be greatly appreciated!



Posted by: thefloyd

Quote:
Originally Posted by URPREY
The developer provided a workaround for those having the text input (it opens a text entry box when you click to enter the Captcha code. However, there was already a workaround which was simply to play the audio verification and punch in the numbers.

It works great on my C730 and you don't have to do anything other than install SiriusWM5 from GeeksToolBox.com


Please don't add to the confusion if you don't understand the issue at hand. The problem on the S630 phones is that keys with numbers on them do not work *at all*. No letters come up, no numbers come up, the phone just beeps at you like "stop trying to do that, idiot". So no, playing the audio captcha code did nothing other than allow us S630 owners to hear a bunch of numbers read off in a computerized voice..

That said, I worked with Dave @ GeeksToolbox extensively and he did indeed provide a fix for the app. The fix was simply to convert the input box to a multi-line input box, because apparently the bug only affects single line input boxes.



Posted by: mikevans75

The lack of support by HTC for the S630 is really quite astounding. I called HTC U.S. and spoke with a very nice person who didn't seem to know what I was talking about when I mentioned I had a 630. After I expressed some dismay and wondering how she had ever missed this information on line, it turns out they are in fact well aware of its existence. I told her I was able to register the unit on line through HTC but the model number does not appear. She encouraged me to contact the web master to report this, I guess assuming that if it was addressed from a different angle, it might shed some light on the issue. She also suggested that it might be that this model is just not available yet directly in North America. However, I reasoned, someone at HTC should be able to point to support given the serial number was accepted by the international site. Does anyone have a contact at HTC who might shed some light on this?



Posted by: thefloyd

Quote:
Originally Posted by mikevans75
The lack of support by HTC for the S630 is really quite astounding. I called HTC U.S. and spoke with a very nice person who didn't seem to know what I was talking about when I mentioned I had a 630. After I expressed some dismay and wondering how she had ever missed this information on line, it turns out they are in fact well aware of its existence. I told her I was able to register the unit on line through HTC but the model number does not appear. She encouraged me to contact the web master to report this, I guess assuming that if it was addressed from a different angle, it might shed some light on the issue. She also suggested that it might be that this model is just not available yet directly in North America. However, I reasoned, someone at HTC should be able to point to support given the serial number was accepted by the international site. Does anyone have a contact at HTC who might shed some light on this?


I've had my S630 since July and I've all but given up on getting a fix at this point. The issue was brought to microsoft .net development attention and the last I heard was "it was being investigated" and "it looks like an issue with the OEM IME implementation". That said, I've heard nothing more for probably the last 6+ weeks.
The biggest thorn in my side was SiriusWM5 not working, but the dev fixed that for us. I've shelved my S630 for now and I've moved on to a TyTN until the TyTN II/Tilt is available via AT&T. At least AT&T QAs the devices before releasing them since they'll have to support them - so there's a lot less risk of a bug like this being in a final product.



Posted by: Quatre

frick all this makes it sound like its not worth getting an s630 now. but im sick of this crappy blckjack that misses letters i type.

wht frigging smrtphone can i get to replce it? i cant believe the sheer lack of choices for someone on att in the us.

i like the look of the htc s730 desite not being as thin as blackjack,cavalier,motoq type smartphones but have no confidence that it will come out oct. 12 or not have similiar problems to he s630.

im ready to get a crappy unlocked iphone with no 3g, but it has no qwerty keyboard & i cant imagine typing on the screen kybrd of it.

what smartphone to get. should i still be considering the htc s630 or dopod c730 or move on & to what then.



Posted by: URPREY

Quote:
Originally Posted by thefloyd
Please don't add to the confusion if you don't understand the issue at hand. The problem on the S630 phones is that keys with numbers on them do not work *at all*. No letters come up, no numbers come up, the phone just beeps at you like "stop trying to do that, idiot". So no, playing the audio captcha code did nothing other than allow us S630 owners to hear a bunch of numbers read off in a computerized voice..

That said, I worked with Dave @ GeeksToolbox extensively and he did indeed provide a fix for the app. The fix was simply to convert the input box to a multi-line input box, because apparently the bug only affects single line input boxes.

My phone doesn't have the issue, so I must have misunderstood that neither numbers nor letters worked. Thanks for the clarification. Either way, the question was what was needed to use SiriusWM5, and the answer is the same. The dev updated the app for it to work so nothing special is needed.



Posted by: slim724

Using an HTC S630, is there a way to view yahoo mail's full site, and not the mobile version? I was able to view the full version on my Blackjack after a (long forgotten) regedit that changed windows ID from mobile, to PC, I for the life of me cannot find any info related to the regedit, and can't find it in the registry, can anyone confirm if this regedit works in WM6, or point me in the right direction??



Posted by: kwues1

@ slim724
I believe this is what you're looking for, hope it helps:

http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocke...rnet_explorer_6

"user agent" can be found in the 5.0 directory....

***if anyone's interested please check out my for sale link in my signature*** (apologize to the Mods if this is prohibited...won't happen again, just let me know, thanks.)

regards....



Posted by: maevro

Hey, I am getting Page Cannot be displayed on all of my webpages. This is my 1st HTC smartphone. I used a .cab that I always used for HTC PPC's.

I have the MediaNet unlimited. What am I doing wrong?



Posted by: kwues1

hows it going Maevro, here are settings that work great on my C730 (also used these settings with all my PPCs), maybe you can compare them to yours (not sure if there is any difference when checking/unchecking "Automatically Detect Settings" in the IE options...I have mine checked and everything seems to be working fine (Edge and HSDPA/UMTS)...i do not have a data plan though, just pay as i go..., hope it helps

***credit to Timback for these settings***


1- GO TO INTERNET EXPLORER, PRESS MENU, GO TO OPTIONS, CONNECTIONS, UNCHECK DETECT SETTINGS, SELECT NETWORK SHOULD BE THE INTERNET.PRESS DONE.

2- GO BACK TO MAIN SCREEN.

3- PRESS START,SETTINGS,CONNECTIONS,GO TO GPRS,PRESS MENU,PRESS ADD, NAME IT MEDIA NET, CONNECTS TO THE INTERNET,ACCESS POINT WAP.CINGULAR,USENAME (ALL CAPS) WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM,PASSWORD (ALL CAPS) CINGULAR1, PRIMARY DNS 66.209.11.61, THATS IT PRESS DONE.

4- GO BACK TO CONNECTIONS PAGE AND GO TO PROXY, AGAIN PRESS ADD, NAME IT CINGULAR WAP, CONNECTS FROM THE INTERNET, CONNECTS TO WORK, PROXY WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM:80, TYPE HTTP. THATS IT. PRESS DONE, DONE.

5- GO BACK HOME AND TRY AND CONNECT. YOU SHOULD CONNECT NO PROBLEM.


MMS.

GO TO MESSAGING, IF YOU ARE IN TEXT MESSAGES, SWITCH ACCOUNTS BY PRESSING THE MENU BUTTON AND GOING TO 4 SWITCH ACCOUNTS. PICK MMS.

2- PRESS MENU, ACCOUNT SETTINGS, MENU AGAIN, 1 MMSC SETTINGS.

3- MENU NEW, PUT NAME CINGULAR MMS, MMSC URL IS MMSC.CINGULAR.COM (LOWER CASE), WAP GATEWAY IS WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM(LOWER CASE)
PORT 80, CONNECT VIA THE INTERNET, MAX SENDING 300K,WAP VERSION 2.0. PRESS DONE ALL THE WAY OUT.

Regards,



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwues1
hows it going Maevro, here are settings that work great on my C730 (also used these settings with all my PPCs), maybe you can compare them to yours (not sure if there is any difference when checking/unchecking "Automatically Detect Settings" in the IE options...I have mine checked and everything seems to be working fine (Edge and HSDPA/UMTS)...i do not have a data plan though, just pay as i go..., hope it helps

***credit to Timback for these settings***


1- GO TO INTERNET EXPLORER, PRESS MENU, GO TO OPTIONS, CONNECTIONS, UNCHECK DETECT SETTINGS, SELECT NETWORK SHOULD BE THE INTERNET.PRESS DONE.

2- GO BACK TO MAIN SCREEN.

3- PRESS START,SETTINGS,CONNECTIONS,GO TO GPRS,PRESS MENU,PRESS ADD, NAME IT MEDIA NET, CONNECTS TO THE INTERNET,ACCESS POINT WAP.CINGULAR,USENAME (ALL CAPS) WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM,PASSWORD (ALL CAPS) CINGULAR1, PRIMARY DNS 66.209.11.61, THATS IT PRESS DONE.

4- GO BACK TO CONNECTIONS PAGE AND GO TO PROXY, AGAIN PRESS ADD, NAME IT CINGULAR WAP, CONNECTS FROM THE INTERNET, CONNECTS TO WORK, PROXY WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM:80, TYPE HTTP. THATS IT. PRESS DONE, DONE.

5- GO BACK HOME AND TRY AND CONNECT. YOU SHOULD CONNECT NO PROBLEM.


MMS.

GO TO MESSAGING, IF YOU ARE IN TEXT MESSAGES, SWITCH ACCOUNTS BY PRESSING THE MENU BUTTON AND GOING TO 4 SWITCH ACCOUNTS. PICK MMS.

2- PRESS MENU, ACCOUNT SETTINGS, MENU AGAIN, 1 MMSC SETTINGS.

3- MENU NEW, PUT NAME CINGULAR MMS, MMSC URL IS MMSC.CINGULAR.COM (LOWER CASE), WAP GATEWAY IS WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM(LOWER CASE)
PORT 80, CONNECT VIA THE INTERNET, MAX SENDING 300K,WAP VERSION 2.0. PRESS DONE ALL THE WAY OUT.

Regards,


I love you. I will try and help you sell your phones, seriously.



Posted by: kwues1

thanks Maevro, appreciate the gesture!!! ...I only need to sell the Dopod C730 as my fiance changed her mind on the HTC S620 and decided to keep it... good luck with the settings...



Posted by: MalPraktiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwues1
hows it going Maevro, here are settings that work great on my C730 (also used these settings with all my PPCs), maybe you can compare them to yours (not sure if there is any difference when checking/unchecking "Automatically Detect Settings" in the IE options...I have mine checked and everything seems to be working fine (Edge and HSDPA/UMTS)...i do not have a data plan though, just pay as i go..., hope it helps

***credit to Timback for these settings***


1- GO TO INTERNET EXPLORER, PRESS MENU, GO TO OPTIONS, CONNECTIONS, UNCHECK DETECT SETTINGS, SELECT NETWORK SHOULD BE THE INTERNET.PRESS DONE.

2- GO BACK TO MAIN SCREEN.

3- PRESS START,SETTINGS,CONNECTIONS,GO TO GPRS,PRESS MENU,PRESS ADD, NAME IT MEDIA NET, CONNECTS TO THE INTERNET,ACCESS POINT WAP.CINGULAR,USENAME (ALL CAPS) WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM,PASSWORD (ALL CAPS) CINGULAR1, PRIMARY DNS 66.209.11.61, THATS IT PRESS DONE.

4- GO BACK TO CONNECTIONS PAGE AND GO TO PROXY, AGAIN PRESS ADD, NAME IT CINGULAR WAP, CONNECTS FROM THE INTERNET, CONNECTS TO WORK, PROXY WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM:80, TYPE HTTP. THATS IT. PRESS DONE, DONE.

5- GO BACK HOME AND TRY AND CONNECT. YOU SHOULD CONNECT NO PROBLEM.


MMS.

GO TO MESSAGING, IF YOU ARE IN TEXT MESSAGES, SWITCH ACCOUNTS BY PRESSING THE MENU BUTTON AND GOING TO 4 SWITCH ACCOUNTS. PICK MMS.

2- PRESS MENU, ACCOUNT SETTINGS, MENU AGAIN, 1 MMSC SETTINGS.

3- MENU NEW, PUT NAME CINGULAR MMS, MMSC URL IS MMSC.CINGULAR.COM (LOWER CASE), WAP GATEWAY IS WIRELESS.CINGULAR.COM(LOWER CASE)
PORT 80, CONNECT VIA THE INTERNET, MAX SENDING 300K,WAP VERSION 2.0. PRESS DONE ALL THE WAY OUT.

Regards,



Rather interesting settings. Mine are the same except for the following differences. I've always had my devices running properly on Cing/ATT without entering a proxy or primary DNS. And I've left the "automatically detect settings" checkbox on and had no problems connecting. I do have the unlimited data plan.



Posted by: kwues1

that is interesting, wonder if your settings work faster, not too familiar in speed tests nor had the time to search for settings that work better, but who would'nt mind a better internet experience, right... will try yours out and see if i can spot any difference...thanks for the info...



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwues1
@ slim724
I believe this is what you're looking for, hope it helps:

http://www.pocketpctweaks.com/pocke...rnet_explorer_6

"user agent" can be found in the 5.0 directory....

***if anyone's interested please check out my for sale link in my signature*** (apologize to the Mods if this is prohibited...won't happen again, just let me know, thanks.)

regards....

thanks that is exactly what I was looking for, just tried it, but it doesn't work in WM6, I even went into my Blackjack and used what was in there because it was slightly different, still got the wap page, then I tried changing anything that said Windows CE, then I couldn't connect at all, so I put everything back to how it was, I can't figure it out, full yahoo mail works on my BJ fine, that's my only gripe, wap yahoo mail page, oh well, I guess I'll have to wait until someone figures out the correct regedit for WM6



Posted by: kwues1

@slim724
i'm sure you already know to make sure your typing the full url address www.yahoo.com from the address bar or google (make sure the you click on the one that has the full "www.yahoo.com" address via google search list), then login in to your mail from there....works fine on my C730 (viewing full yahoo mail not the wap version).
If the previous IE browser hack didn't work for some reason you can also try downloading the trial version smartphone version of "Tweaks2K2" (trial) and set IE browser tweak from there....I'm not too sure if there is a IE browser tweak though, but i think there is, sorry, can't be too certain (more user friendly and safer),.... trial can only be used i believe 2 or 3 times so make sure you decide on the tweaks you want and when the trial ends you can remove it from your device without erasing the tweaks you made ...hope it helps, good luck.

link Tweaks2K2:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/sta...050317130430805



Posted by: maevro

Thanks for everyones help. I am normally a PPC kind of guy but I am digging this Cavalier and hope to use it for a while.

What programs are you guys using or recommend? Main programs, not small ones like games. I apologize if you guys spoke about this already.

I installed Resco File Explorer, Resco Registry and Sprite Backup 6. I was thinking of installing Facade because I remember using it on my Blackjack but I am digging the HTC homescreen, I don't know if the Dopod version has the same one so I am sorry if you dont know what I am talking about.

Is there a soft reset program like psShutxp for the smartphone? Also, there is no sleep button for this phone like on the PPC, huh?



Posted by: MalPraktiz

I'm sure you'll hate this program because it does not do GPS and requires an active data connection but I would have to say at least give the Map24 Mobile app a try. The reason I love the app is that it provides icons on the map for nearby restaurants, hotels, ATM machines, etc. I'm frequently bouncing between the US, Canada and Europe on business and find this app a life saver when I'm in a new place and need to see what's in the immediate vicinity, and that's even more handy when the local language is not one I speak. It's a beta app still but I like it.

I do know what you are talking about regarding the S630's default home screen layout, I like it as well. I don't really use the appointments (I can remember where and when I need to be places) and the number of shortcut icons at the bottom of the screen is enough for 5-7 things I frequently use so I don't bother using Facade. My only complaint about the default S630 home screen is the icons are on the bottom and every time I go to the home screen the focus is at the top forcing me to click down several times to get to the icons. This is where the icons at top like in facade would be better.



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by MalPraktiz
I'm sure you'll hate this program because it does not do GPS and requires an active data connection but I would have to say at least give the Map24 Mobile app a try. The reason I love the app is that it provides icons on the map for nearby restaurants, hotels, ATM machines, etc. I'm frequently bouncing between the US, Canada and Europe on business and find this app a life saver when I'm in a new place and need to see what's in the immediate vicinity, and that's even more handy when the local language is not one I speak. It's a beta app still but I like it.

I do know what you are talking about regarding the S630's default home screen layout, I like it as well. I don't really use the appointments (I can remember where and when I need to be places) and the number of shortcut icons at the bottom of the screen is enough for 5-7 things I frequently use so I don't bother using Facade. My only complaint about the default S630 home screen is the icons are on the bottom and every time I go to the home screen the focus is at the top forcing me to click down several times to get to the icons. This is where the icons at top like in facade would be better.


Cool, I will try it. Actually I normally just use Google Maps for stuff like that. I am not a fan of GPS personally, I dont use it. I really have no need for it here in NYC.



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
Thanks for everyones help. I am normally a PPC kind of guy but I am digging this Cavalier and hope to use it for a while.

What programs are you guys using or recommend? Main programs, not small ones like games. I apologize if you guys spoke about this already.

I installed Resco File Explorer, Resco Registry and Sprite Backup 6. I was thinking of installing Facade because I remember using it on my Blackjack but I am digging the HTC homescreen, I don't know if the Dopod version has the same one so I am sorry if you dont know what I am talking about.

Is there a soft reset program like psShutxp for the smartphone? Also, there is no sleep button for this phone like on the PPC, huh?

this is what I'm using right now:

TCPMP 0.81RC1 Beta (freeware) http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/...les-plugin.html

Oxios Memory 1.40 (freeware) http://www.oxios.com/memory/

SKTools Lite (freeware) http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_lite.html

CT AlarmClock Lite (freeware) http://www.connectivetools.com/ctalarmclocklt.html

Google Maps (freeware) http://www.google.com/gmm/index.htm...20maps%20mobile

Facade 1.31 http://www.sbsh.net/products/facade/ the green homescreen looks great and matches the S630's FN keys green color

Fizz Weather 2.4 http://www.fizzsoftware.com/product...er/weather.html

Resco Explorer http://www.resco.net/smartphone/explorer/

Picodrive v0.52 (freeware) http://www.modaco.com/PicoDrive-052...-v-t237281.html

PocketNesterPlus 0.9 (freeware) http://www.modaco.com/PocketNesterPlus-09-t237915.html



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwues1
@slim724
i'm sure you already know to make sure your typing the full url address www.yahoo.com from the address bar or google (make sure the you click on the one that has the full "www.yahoo.com" address via google search list), then login in to your mail from there....works fine on my C730 (viewing full yahoo mail not the wap version).
If the previous IE browser hack didn't work for some reason you can also try downloading the trial version smartphone version of "Tweaks2K2" (trial) and set IE browser tweak from there....I'm not too sure if there is a IE browser tweak though, but i think there is, sorry, can't be too certain (more user friendly and safer),.... trial can only be used i believe 2 or 3 times so make sure you decide on the tweaks you want and when the trial ends you can remove it from your device without erasing the tweaks you made ...hope it helps, good luck.

link Tweaks2K2:
http://www.tweaks2k2.com/portal/sta...050317130430805

yep, I tried that, I manually type in www.mail.yahoo.com, and I get MediaNet's yahoo wap site, there is a MediaNet Home link at the bottom of the page, no matter what, I don't get it?

were you able to view the full site with or without doing the hack?



Posted by: kwues1

@slim
well i did the hack since i first bought the phone and have had no problems viewing the full yahoo site and email as well, whether it is on wifi or network data....i do not see media net on any of the pages...



Posted by: slim724

just tried the hack again and I still get MediaNet's wap yahoo site??? When I check the address it says http://us.m.yahoo.com even though I manually typed in mail.yahoo.com, so I'm somehow being redirected, if I go to login.yahoo.com it's the full login page, and when I login it takes me to my "my yahoo" homepage, the full page, if I click on the "mail" icon it takes me to MediaNet's wap mail site, if I click on "check mail" it takes me to the same wap site with MediaNet "home" and "add to my favorites" links at the bottom of the page, everyhting works for the full page except mail, maybe it has something to do with AT&T's servers????



Posted by: maevro

Don't know if any of you use this site, but it has some great stuff....

http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/Apps.aspx?app=Phone

Free Weather, Free Soft Reset, Free SMS threaded Application, etc.



Posted by: Clueless87

I've been looking for a better internt browser for the Dopod C730. Has anyone tried Opera Mobile? It looks like it would allow browsing similar to a desktop.



Posted by: RazzyRas

anyone get the efficast gprs monitor to work with the c730? i have tried both versions 3.51w and 3.6 and they dont work for me. For 3.6 I can see the Rogers connection, but it does not detect the data usage, while for 3.51w the Rogers connection does not show at all - only the 3 default ones do. Thanks in advance



Posted by: rabbivj

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clueless87
I've been looking for a better internt browser for the Dopod C730. Has anyone tried Opera Mobile? It looks like it would allow browsing similar to a desktop.


I use opera mobile on my dash, i like it better than PIE. its a 30 day trial but it is worth it to buy it.



Posted by: wilkewhaq

Does anyone know if the 4gb MicroSD cards will work in this phone?



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilkewhaq
Does anyone know if the 4gb MicroSD cards will work in this phone?

I asked the same thing a while back and never got an answer, so I went with a 2GB and it works fine, still would like to know if the S630 is SDHC compatible though



Posted by: martinctv

Quote:
Originally Posted by wilkewhaq
Does anyone know if the 4gb MicroSD cards will work in this phone?


It does not, only 2gb



Posted by: mhdw

Quote:
Originally Posted by RazzyRas
anyone get the efficast gprs monitor to work with the c730? i have tried both versions 3.51w and 3.6 and they dont work for me. For 3.6 I can see the Rogers connection, but it does not detect the data usage, while for 3.51w the Rogers connection does not show at all - only the 3 default ones do. Thanks in advance


I have the S630. I'm on Rogers, using version 3.6 with no problems.



Posted by: travon802

Quote:
Originally Posted by martinctv
It does not, only 2gb



Some S630's actually are SDHC compatible. They've been tested with 4gb cards. Some you can just pop the card right in and its visible. Others you may have to put in your computer and format to FAT32, just depends on the ROM. You can buy a 4gb microSDHC card from Best Buy and try it, take it back if it doesn't work...



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by martinctv
It does not, only 2gb


I have a SanDisk 4GB MicroSD card in my s630. My friend has a Dopod c730 and it doesn't work in his.

Does anyone know how the reg edit to change the right softkey on the Cavalier?
I want to change it from contacts. It is not the same as it was on a PPC.



Posted by: travon802

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
I have a SanDisk 4GB MicroSD card in my s630. My friend has a Dopod c730 and it doesn't work in his.

Does anyone know how the reg edit to change the right softkey on the Cavalier?
I want to change it from contacts. It is not the same as it was on a PPC.



I see you have used the S630 and Ubiquio 503G. Which one do you like better and why?



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by travon802
I see you have used the S630 and Ubiquio 503G. Which one do you like better and why?


Haha, I am not the only one here.

They are two different phones. The 503 was much taller then the s630. I personally like PPCs better then smartphones but I do like this Cavalier. I love touchscreen phones but the s630 has a really nice screen. The 503 had some issues, but I know there is a new ROM and most might be fixed.

All I know is that I can count on HTC, thats why I am using the s630 and not the 503g anymore.



Posted by: profitoral

Hi all,

I'm still dizzy from going through all the posts at once

I'm trying to decide between these two (S630 and C730) phones in order to use it here in the US/AT&T network.

Could you guys post a summary on pros and cons for each phone respect to the other one. Things that are not working properly in one ROM versus the other one, etc, etc.

I have a Dash right now (using it in ATT) that I'm planning to give to my wife. Main reason to get the S630/C730 is 3G and quad band. Faster processor is a "very" nice to have.

Anyway, thanks for your help in advance.
= J =



Posted by: MalPraktiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
I have a SanDisk 4GB MicroSD card in my s630. My friend has a Dopod c730 and it doesn't work in his.

Does anyone know how the reg edit to change the right softkey on the Cavalier?
I want to change it from contacts. It is not the same as it was on a PPC.


maevro, look here at this modaco thread for info on changing the right soft key in the first message post. You need to power cycle for the change to take effect but it works well

http://www.modaco.com/TotW-Change-function-t208536.html



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by MalPraktiz
maevro, look here at this modaco thread for info on changing the right soft key in the first message post. You need to power cycle for the change to take effect but it works well

http://www.modaco.com/TotW-Change-function-t208536.html



Cool, thanks. That worked perfectly.

Can anyone post the Dopod homescreen?

I am not loving the HTC homescreen and I really don't want to use Facade. I personally think MRU is a worthless concept.



Posted by: rkdiddy

Does the s630 include Blackberry connect?



Posted by: MalPraktiz

Quote:
Originally Posted by rkdiddy
Does the s630 include Blackberry connect?


it does not come with it



Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by MalPraktiz
it does not come with it


Dopod site offers it for download for C730 but it will not work on S630 until someone creates CID unlock for Cavalier.

Cheers



Posted by: rkdiddy

^ Gotcha - thank you - looks like I'm going to have to go with the dopod then. I wish my company would get with the times and support exchange push and blackberry. We have both the servers yet they feel blackberry is the most secure so I have to have a device with bbconnect. <argh>



Posted by: maevro

Is it true that there is no WiFi on the Dopod version?



Posted by: travon802

There is wifi on both versions, where'd you hear that?



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by travon802
There is wifi on both versions, where'd you hear that?


Someone was selling their c730 and said that it didn't have WiFi on it. I didn't think that was right but I wanted to double check with someone else who had it.



Posted by: maevro

I rest my s630 and it got stuck on the windows mobile screen. I could not get it out so I did a hard reset and it still wont get past that screen.

I dont know what to do.

Edit. After 10 minutes it finally loaded. Strange.



Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
I rest my s630 and it got stuck on the windows mobile screen. I could not get it out so I did a hard reset and it still wont get past that screen.

I dont know what to do.

Edit. After 10 minutes it finally loaded. Strange.


It happened to me once, I don't know why it needed a lot of time restart. Anyway can you tell me how you did the hard reset when it was stuck on WM screen??? As far as I know, the only way to do a hard reset on a smartphone is through "clear storage".

Cheers



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibeqa
It happened to me once, I don't know why it needed a lot of time restart. Anyway can you tell me how you did the hard reset when it was stuck on WM screen??? As far as I know, the only way to do a hard reset on a smartphone is through "clear storage".

Cheers

you can hard reset turning it off, then hold down both upper left and right softkeys while powering on, then follow on-screen instructions, it takes quite a while to reload the rom, then I think it reboots



Posted by: bocastephen

On my new Dopod C730, the included homescreen settings don't match the options that came with my Sprint Moto Q. When choosing the default layout, the application icons are huge and the "Upcoming Appointments" section is double-high, so I need to scroll down to view my text messages.

Without downloading a non-WM6 layout from a third-party, is there a way to tweak the existing layout to match my Q's settings which have the following:

status bar with time, then network name, then date, then underneath that
small application shortcut icons, then underneath that
profile selection, then underneath that
Email and Text Message status, then underneath that
upcoming appointments (normal height), then underneath that
bluetooth status

My layout might be a customized version from Sprint, but if there is a way to emulate it, that would be helpful for setting up my Dopod. I did a search on the Q device and was unable to find any XML file which had the word Sprint in the file name or contents, and copying the default XML file from the Q to the 730 resulted in an error that the file could not be used.



Posted by: Beretta1526

I've customized my Dopod C730 as shown:



It emulates an HTC layout on my S710. Maybe I can get one together that has the stuff you want on it that looks like that. You will have to put the files in yourself using the Activesync "Explore" option, but that's easy.

The only thing I would need to figure out would be the BT status, and the BT settings are almost directly accessible by just clicking on the D-Pad when it's got the Carrier/Time/Date/WiFi line highlighted.

.



Posted by: maevro

Nice, I will post mine in a sec. I hate the lines and always remove them. I also dislike that
the small icons do not go all the way across, even with changing the xml. The best I can do is center them.





Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
I've customized my Dopod C730 as shown:

...

It emulates an HTC layout on my S710. Maybe I can get one together that has the stuff you want on it that looks like that. You will have to put the files in yourself using the Activesync "Explore" option, but that's easy.

The only thing I would need to figure out would be the BT status, and the BT settings are almost directly accessible by just clicking on the D-Pad when it's got the Carrier/Time/Date/WiFi line highlighted.

.


Thank you! That would be great. Now I'm wondering if there is a way to export the layout settings from my Moto Q (WM5) to the Dopod (WM6), but the trouble seems to be finding this xml file which contains the Sprint layout. If I could find that, it might be easier to update the format for WM6.

I will ask over at the Sprint forum, perhaps someone there knows where it's hidden.



Posted by: nord0296

Quote:
Originally Posted by bocastephen
Thank you! That would be great. Now I'm wondering if there is a way to export the layout settings from my Moto Q (WM5) to the Dopod (WM6), but the trouble seems to be finding this xml file which contains the Sprint layout. If I could find that, it might be easier to update the format for WM6.

I will ask over at the Sprint forum, perhaps someone there knows where it's hidden.


Have you checked \application data\home for "hidden" or "system" files. My VZW Q has some home screens hidden in there...



Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by nord0296
Have you checked \application data\home for "hidden" or "system" files. My VZW Q has some home screens hidden in there...


Yes, I checked there, and no hidden files were found.



Posted by: maevro



Hey guys, if you want a nice little free application, here it is. It gives you a battery icon on the screen, service status / signal, WiFi Meter and BT icon.

You can also launch it through settings for more detailed info like this...



If you want to install it to your today screen, here is the xml..

<plugin clsid="{B39E4DD1-8F27-46cf-A6DD-3FE043A15606}" name="MobiSysPlugin" height="55" >
</plugin>

Follow instructions in .zip

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=S7VYKL1H

Also, here is a .cab if you want solid black glossy bars...


EDIT: Fizz Weather keeps crashing my s630.

I also have the WMP today screen plug in if anyone would like it. I can also provide the xml.



Posted by: Beretta1526

OK, I have GOT to know how you do screen captures!!!



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
OK, I have GOT to know how you do screen captures!!!


http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/suppo....php?bak#phones

Its free, I like this the best for smartphones.



Posted by: bocastephen

Are there any updates on the bug which is causing problems with Yahoo Go! and MS Mobile Live?

I just confirmed my Dopod is one of the unlucky victims



Posted by: Beretta1526

So far, not that I've seen. That really rots, because mine has no problems...

When you are having the issue, what happens when you hit the little Sym key to the right of the space bar?

.



Posted by: travon802

Mine is having the problem with Yahoo Go but not with Mobile Live...



Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
So far, not that I've seen. That really rots, because mine has no problems...

When you are having the issue, what happens when you hit the little Sym key to the right of the space bar?

.


I don't have the phone with me right now to try again, but when I checked it before, pressing any key would tab the cursor to the next box, except a key with a number - and then only the number would print, not the letter. I'm not sure if I hit the sym key, I think I hit a key to the left of the space bar, but it didn't help.



Posted by: rabbivj

can someone post a summary of all the bugs ppl have found? im still debating whether to buy this phone or not...



Posted by: Beretta1526

Get a Dopod C730 from Hong Kong's 1O1O and you shouldn't have any problems



Posted by: profitoral

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
Get a Dopod C730 from Hong Kong's 1O1O and you shouldn't have any problems


Does somebody know if that Dopod's ROM is different and in that case if we can install it in the other C730s?

Thanks.
= J =



Posted by: Beretta1526

I think we compared versions somewhere in the thread, but the ROM in my C730 doesn't appear to be available anywhere. The Dopod ROM is most certainly different from the S630 though, and from what I've heard you can't use the Dopod rom on the HTC set and vice versa.



Posted by: martinctv

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
I think we compared versions somewhere in the thread, but the ROM in my C730 doesn't appear to be available anywhere. The Dopod ROM is most certainly different from the S630 though, and from what I've heard you can't use the Dopod rom on the HTC set and vice versa.


The C730 Rom is on the HTC Hong Kong site. You must register your phone in order to get it.



Posted by: Beretta1526

It's apparently different than the one in the C730 from 1O1O though... and that one is the one that is not available from what I can tell.



Posted by: profitoral

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
It's apparently different than the one in the C730 from 1O1O though... and that one is the one that is not available from what I can tell.

It would be great if someone with such ROM could extract it from his phone and post it somewhere. That would certainly help a LOT of people.

Any volunteer? :-)

Cheers.
= J =



Posted by: Beretta1526

I wouldn't know where to begin...



Posted by: profitoral

There is a thread on custom ROMs for the HTC S620 in the xda-developers forum. I think this is an excelent opportunity to be able to dump the 1010 ROM so others can try it out.

I believe the tools should work on the C730 as well:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333621

Cheers.
= J =



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by rabbivj
can someone post a summary of all the bugs ppl have found? im still debating whether to buy this phone or not...


With out of the box bugs I really havent found any, buts that with the s630 and not the c730. I have found some issues with aftermarket software like Fizz Weather where after a soft reset the phone will not boot up. If I use run my last back up from before I installed Fizz it boots perfectly. Very strange.

I am normally a PPC user but I do like this phone. Its nice to have a phone where you can see the screen in the sunlight as apposed to a PPC.



Posted by: Quatre

went in ATT store to get a Tilt today figuring i can get it cheaper then an S630 and the titl being a ppc phone is generally more fully featured then any smartphone like s630.

Plus i played with the dash keyboard on a tmob display in BB (which incidentally doenst have the tilt and i thin they dont get the att ppc phones in BB just smartphones) and i want' that impressed with the tmob dash qwerty. in fact the best one of all the diff smartphones in BB from all the providers was the new Q9 or whatever for vzw. i liked that qwerty the best.

but nothing beats the slide out keyboard of the apache/wizard/tytn/tilt devices.

was going to buy tilt out right but store said they wont sell unless to new contract or renew customes cus its new and they dont have many in stock. Then i get on phone with customer service in the store and they upgrade my one line but then i stupidly had them switch it to the other line and then att store manager says i would have to upgrade my internet plan which would be $20/mo if i get the tilt. i'm like uh no.

i have other non pda phones i use on that linie and i'm not going to pay more. hes like you say you have other pda phones. i'm like no other non pda phones and he slike well all att cares is you have the blackjack on that line and you alrady should have a diff data plan now.

i really dare him to have changed my plan based on that but i said i'm not getting the titl then. i said you wnt from sale for 550 to 399 to 0.

its to the point where i'm goign to have to buy a crappy phone from att set to my line as far as thy are concerned and then not buy any of my smart or ppc phones from teh store. If i want to pay more for data i will use my vzw service for data and is the whole reason i dont.

meanwhile i'm just having my other line authorized for upgrade or the auth switched to that line and then i should be able to get the titl for 299 online price now.

just have to wait a fwe days and though i'm sick of my bj, i can just use my 8525 till then. which ironically the tilt is pretty much teh same and not much of an upgrade. sligth thinner and wm6 yeah but you can add that to the 8525. and tilt has blackberry mail and like maybe one other thing over the 8525 that i dont need but i'll prob get it anyway just cus the price is right and sell my 8525.

its tough, i want the thinnes of the s630 but if i can get a tilt for cheaper and its a mor full featured ppc phone its hard to justify the s630 anymore. if the tilt fits my seidio.com holster for the 8525 that sweetens the deal.

the problem is i never used my 8525 really or took it many places as my main phone as its just bulkier and harder to use as a phone. if the titl had a # pad on teh front then it would be great, but if i want to use an on screen # pad i';d use a crap iphone and slideing out the keyboard to dial a # has always been a problem on these type phones.

but the titl does have them highlighted in blue and though they are sideways i noticed you can slide out the keyboard and dial your # pretty easy with teh sideways #'s and then close it so it may work.

but the dialing and the size is my main concerns i guess for using it as my main phone. see its fine for me to use a ppc phone as my vzw phone since its mostly only for free in calling with fam and some friends so using it as my data phone (email, web etc.) gave it a second purpose and just use my att for all voice is what i used to do, but the better smart and ppc phones on gsm and cheaper data plan made me switch data to att. and besides i use vzw for mobile tv now too to give it a second use but only because im getting paid to review for market research study.

if ever i have to pay mroe for data on att i will be tempted to switch back to my vzw acct for data.

anywa i still not totally ure what to get. I guess its either s630 now and then s730 when that comes out or just tilt now. at which point i prob wont want or need the s730 wings cus the tilt has the slide out keyboard and the s730 will be a downgrade to smartphone.

if is stick with smartphone now in the s630 like i'm used to from moto q and blackjack the s730 will be an upgrde at leat with the slide out keyboard. but if i go ppc its hard to go back to smartphone. you get used to highlighting text, and copy paste just to name one thing ppc has over smartphone.

a tilt for 299 is obviously cheaper then an s630 for $500+ now and 600+ for the s730 in a month or 2.

anything else to consider.

att store tried to tempt me into buying an iphone no contract price. i never would but thought about getting one unlocked. its a slick package but just as i thought the on screen keyboard doesnt cut it for me. i need/prefer qwerty.

soon there will be other phones that take the best features of the iphone and make it much better with 3g and posibly a qwerty to use as an option in additon to the onscreen keyboard.

the nokia iphone like device should be great especially if it has the built in video content access through nokia



Posted by: bocastephen

I just noticed there is a '1010' sticker on the back of my dopod, and I know it was bought in HK...is there a way to verify whether or not I have the 'good' ROM version?



Posted by: JonSev

I tried to do a search....and I didnt feel like reading through 48 pages...so...

Is there a big difference with the C730 and the S630? I have another thread saying that importgsm has the C730 for like $450...and I was originally just going to get the S620 and upgrade it to wm6, but since the price difference is only $50 I figure the C730 might be the way to go?

Anything I should be warned about?



Posted by: Beretta1526

The $50 difference is minor considering the upgrade in the processor and connection speeds. I'd take the C730 over the S620 in a heartbeat, even if it were a $75-$100 difference.

The only thing to watch for is the text input bug. Not all C730's have it, and it seems that all of the S630's have it. You will need to read through the thread (I'd use the search) to find out more about it if you're interested.

bocastephen, somewhere in this thread, I posted all of my info from my unit. There are a couple different places, one is device info, the other is system info.

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Posted by: JonSev

So I might actually be slightly better off with the C730?

Is there anything missing from the C730 thats in the S630?



Posted by: Beretta1526

I'm not sure. I know that the C730 has a "Quick Notes" app (not voice notes) that is similar to Notepad that the S630/S620 do not have. It's also got a copy/paste/etc app built in that is handy sometimes.



Posted by: maevro



I created this theme for the s630. If you are using AT&T and would like it, let me know.



Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
...bocastephen, somewhere in this thread, I posted all of my info from my unit. There are a couple different places, one is device info, the other is system info...


I searched through the thread, but could not find the post

Here is my information...
ROM 1.16.708.5
Radio 32.76.7020.19H_1.43.50.00
Joggr 0.00.007



Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro


I created this theme for the s630. If you are using AT&T and would like it, let me know.


That is an awesome looking theme...what software do you use to make these, or are you coding it by hand?



Posted by: Beretta1526

Same here on the info above, with the added info from the Settings >> About

CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3)
Radio Version 0
RIL Version 2.002

CE ROM update versions (all): 5.2.1238.17745

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Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
Same here on the info above, with the added info from the Settings >> About

CE OS 5.2.1238 (Build 17745.0.2.3)
Radio Version 0
RIL Version 2.002

CE ROM update versions (all): 5.2.1238.17745

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Our devices match exactly...so does your unit have the text input issue on Yahoo Go! and Live Search?



Posted by: Beretta1526

I haven't tried Yahoo Go, but no issues with Live Search.



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bocastephen
That is an awesome looking theme...what software do you use to make these, or are you coding it by hand?


I am coded theme and scheme by hand using xml. The background image is the stock AT&T logo image from the 8925 background.



Posted by: bocastephen

I'm starting to notice the battery on my C730 could be an issue - I say 'could' because the battery indicator on the homescreen drops to two or one bars, but the battery life showing under settings-power management shows much more life remaining, and I'm not sure which to believe.

I've disabled beaming and switched the network to 3G only so it doesn't hunt back and forth - although I guess I can change it to GPRS when I'm not net surfing, and make it 3G only when I'm ready to surf.

However, with that in mind, has anyone tried out an extended battery? I saw a 2000mh battery from Boxwave, but it's so thick! I wonder if another vendor has a slimmer one available.

The link is here: http://www.amazon.com/Dopod-C730-El...92504362&sr=8-2

There is an identical battery for the S630 as well.



Posted by: bocastephen

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
I am coded theme and scheme by hand using xml. The background image is the stock AT&T logo image from the 8925 background.


Wow, you're good I can't make heads or tails of that xml data, especially how to figure out which colors to enter where, or how to blend them.



Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by bocastephen
I'm starting to notice the battery on my C730 could be an issue - I say 'could' because the battery indicator on the homescreen drops to two or one bars, but the battery life showing under settings-power management shows much more life remaining, and I'm not sure which to believe.

I've disabled beaming and switched the network to 3G only so it doesn't hunt back and forth - although I guess I can change it to GPRS when I'm not net surfing, and make it 3G only when I'm ready to surf.

However, with that in mind, has anyone tried out an extended battery? I saw a 2000mh battery from Boxwave, but it's so thick! I wonder if another vendor has a slimmer one available.

The link is here: http://www.amazon.com/Dopod-C730-El...92504362&sr=8-2

There is an identical battery for the S630 as well.


One thing I know for sure regarding battery life. Whenever I charge my device through computer I loose a bar or two at the end of the day (GPRS only normaly), but when I plug it on power outlet directly battery life is better.

Cheers



Posted by: ceomoney

I am considering purchasing the Cavalier but I am wondering if there any major bugs I need to be aware of. I've read and heard that it is not really a supported phone. Thanks in advance.



Posted by: dscsayers

I just ordered a c730, now I'm on the hunt for accessories. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good supplier of OEM batteries and chargers. I don't want to risk messing up my new baby when she gets here. Thanks



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by ceomoney
I am considering purchasing the Cavalier but I am wondering if there any major bugs I need to be aware of. I've read and heard that it is not really a supported phone. Thanks in advance.


Some people are saying that there is a bug with Windows Live but I haven't found it yet.

I have to tell you, I am a huge PPC guy. I usually cannot stand not having a touchscreen but this phone really is nice. I like this phone because the volume is at a quality level and you can see the screen in sunlight.

My only gripe is where they put the JOGGR. I hate that my right hand always hits it by accident so I had to change the way I hold the phone. Also, I would like to be able to remap the buttons like on a PPC.

I bought a 6GB MicroSD card and am using it now.



Posted by: MalPraktiz

Not Windows Live, the problem is with Windows Live Search from wls.live.com

It's not the Windows Live tool that comes with the device out of the box.



Posted by: jonnywifi

Check it out! http://wls.live.com Live Search V2.5 was just released and it now has voice recognition built in!

Unfortunately, they did not fix the problem typing letters on the Cavalier, but who needs to type when the voice recognition works so well!



Posted by: maevro

Here is a .cab that will add a reboot (soft reset) option to your quick list. Save it to your device.



http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7884Q355



Posted by: profitoral

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
Here is a .cab that will add a reboot (soft reset) option to your quick list. Save it to your device.

Very convenient!



Posted by: Clueless87

HELP! My C730's screen would not go on, even though the phone was on. So I had to restart it by removing the battery and turning it back on. I tried a hard reset, and now it won't boot up. It just shows the Dopod Enjoy Mobility screen for a few seconds, then the Windows Mobile screen for a few seconds, then a black screen for a few seconds, then the cycle begins all over again. Can anyone offer any suggestions?



Posted by: dscsayers

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscsayers
I just ordered a c730, now I'm on the hunt for accessories. Can anyone point me in the direction of a good supplier of OEM batteries and chargers. I don't want to risk messing up my new baby when she gets here. Thanks



I found a company that offers extended batteries for the c730. Do you think that this is a foolish idea? I like the fact that they come with a battery door. I'm just concerned that these batteries will fry the device. Has anyone had any experience with Muguen or used these batteries?

http://shop.eten.hu/mugen-power-dop...door-p-185.html

Just a simple yes or no, garbage or good would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks



Posted by: jimsparkman

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro


I created this theme for the s630. If you are using AT&T and would like it, let me know.


Maevro, good job on the theme, looks nice and would love to have it. Thanks.



Posted by: bobes

does the .net issue/non issue have to do with ppl with CHT roms and some with WWE roms?

latest roms
1.16.708.xx seems like CHT RUU_Cavalier_DOPODASIA_CHT_1.16.708.7_1.43.50.00_1 08_Ship.exe
1.16.707.xx seems like WWE
RUU_Cavalier_DOPODASIA_WWE_1.16.707.7_1.43.50.00_1 08_Ship.exe



Posted by: Beretta1526

The difference between those two ROMS are that one is Chinese, the other is English.



Posted by: bobes

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
The difference between those two ROMS are that one is Chinese, the other is English.



I understand that, I'm just trying to figure out a pattern with those that have the problem and those that don't



Posted by: Beretta1526

Well, if it helps, the ROM version I've got (see a few posts back) is Chinese. It has English support, but it's Chinese.



Posted by: maevro

I changed the Branding bar and phone dialer screen with the help of xda. I hated seeing green even though I was using a blue scheme.




HTC_BrandingBrickImg_320x27.bmp
HTC_CallProgressBkg_320x186.bmp

Just make 2 images and save them as these file names, then copy them into your windows folder using a file explorer. Follow the exact size of the images.



Posted by: ookba

I want to experiement with the S630 ROM on my C730. Can anyone upload it somewhere for me to get to?



Posted by: maevro



I also made the AT&T homescreen green if anyone is interested.



Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by ookba
I want to experiement with the S630 ROM on my C730. Can anyone upload it somewhere for me to get to?


You need to CID unlock your phone first (which is imposible for now). Otherwise you'll brick your phone.

Cheers



Posted by: maevro

I see a lot of you have a different ROM version then me....

HTC S630
ROM 1.18.405.4
Radio 1.43.50.00



Posted by: Beretta1526

There is no correlation between the S630 ROM and the C730 ROM. Funny thing is, HTC still acts like the S630 doesn't exist.



Posted by: sb0611

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beretta1526
There is no correlation between the S630 ROM and the C730 ROM. Funny thing is, HTC still acts like the S630 doesn't exist.


The non-existant support is what prevents me from getting the Cavalier! How can it not even be mentioned on HTC's worldwide page!?!



Posted by: bobes

Just got the C730 ... working great so far, love the form factor.... I'm very used to closing down programs with HTC X-Button... is there something similar for smartphones? what's the easiest way besides navigating to task manager and closing?



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobes
Just got the C730 ... working great so far, love the form factor.... I'm very used to closing down programs with HTC X-Button... is there something similar for smartphones? what's the easiest way besides navigating to task manager and closing?


Oxios Close Apps and Hibernate. They are free, do a search for them.



Posted by: Beretta1526

I'm surprised there isn't a close or exit button for SmartPhones. Most of the apps don't close on their own and I would rather not install yet another piece of software on mine. I use it often enough, that the task manager is almost always one of the first 3 or 4 apps in the MRU.

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Posted by: URPREY

I use Smarttoolkit for my start menu replacement/task manager



Posted by: maevro

Quote:
Originally Posted by URPREY
I use Smarttoolkit for my start menu replacement/task manager


What exactly does this do besides function as a task manager?

I really like the Cavalier but I really miss a touchscreen.....



Posted by: URPREY

It adds a more PPC like start menu interface, more menu options, autolock, etc.



Posted by: Quatre

Quote:
Originally Posted by maevro
Here is a .cab that will add a reboot (soft reset) option to your quick list. Save it to your device.



http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7884Q355


thanks for this. got it on my ATT Tilt (htc TyTN2/Kaiser) and on my S630 which just came today. They are to replace my cing 8525 (Tytn 1) and sam blackjack.

keyboard is much better on the htc s630 then black jack. screen is bigger tooa dn the phone itself isnt that much bigger. not much wider at all like i expected being the bj is pretty small width across and the dash always looked so wide.

same height almost too as the bj and about same thickness but overall its a littler larger in most dimensions but again teh screen is bigger and nicer. i was sick of the blackjack.

problem is in using the tytn2/kaiser a lot you get used to touch screen again. I wont have any need reallyf or the htc s730. its just a smartphone like the s630 but adding in teh slide out keyboard. the # pad on the front is nice and the tytn2/kaiser could use that but i guess they figure it doesnt need it as it has touch screen # pad, plus the keyboard slids out on teh right instead of left lik the 8525/tytn1 and is therefore somehow easier to see and type the #'s even though they sideways.

if they could make a form factor like the s730 and hae it be a ppc touchscreen (as i guess they dont make a smatphoen with touchscreen cus then its not a smartphone and is a ppc phone) that would be great.

the 8525 was always too bulky so i just alwyas used the blackjack and used the 8525 at home and stuff mostly but then when lazy would just use the bj on Edge then using faster wifi on teh 8525.

now its winter i dont think i need as thin a phone so going to try to use the Tilt as main phone but already when i went out sat night no way was i bringing that to the bar/club so switch back to the bj.

texting in public is kind of more inconspicuous on phoen with qwerty onfront then sliding out eh keyboard and looking like you on a mini laptop though most ppl think its like a sidekick and pretty cool.

anyway i guess first thing i need to do on teh Cavalier is adjust teh settings for ATT. prob at begin of thread? if someone can direct or repost that would be great.

also how do i switch it to 12hr and the date format cus the 24hr time and backwards euro date format with the day before the month (dd/mm/yy 23/10/2007) throws me off.


hm can;t seem to get the reboot .cab file from the megaupload page on teh cavalier itself using wifi.

says file can't be viewed

happy to report letter V scrolls down and R scrolls up on a page cus the jog wheel is a bit finicky but i like the innovtiona and am forcing myself to get used to it and use it. it just sucks how when your handling the phone or even typing on it the jog wheel is so sensitive it starts doing stuff when you just holding it.

i need to get a holster and screen protector for this phone pronto. any suggestions?



Posted by: Quatre

ugh can't get the cab on my cavalier, just says the file cannot be viewed on the device. now i'm going to have to do it the non lazy way and transfer it onto the cav somehow. maybe i can email it from the tilt.

the tilt is much easier being from att and already has a lot of links saved to favorites for your weathe and sports etc. much easier but yeah not unlocked and its att branded which i actually dont mind as much as the cingular cus its just three letters.

cool how the att tilt version even has the HTC lettering on the back. no previous model ppc slide keyboard phone by htc on any crrier did i dont think.

oh and my seidio.com holster for my cing 8525 fits my tilt.



Posted by: Quatre

Quote:
Originally Posted by john1027
Elbow, like globecode, I only get the network msg on startup after a soft reset and just tell it no. Its no big deal but my company also enforces a device pswd settting and it got hung up a couple times and I had to remove the battery to get it jump started again. I don't get the roaming msgs you are seeing. I've attached the cab I use for Cingular and only needed to tweak the mms settings as detailed in one of my earlier posts.

I'm going to use the information you provided and see if I can do the same thing described in the xda post. That is after I get a good backup with Sprite.


what does this .cab do?
http://www.howardforums.com/attachm...achmentid=62706



Posted by: HShortt

For opening task manager, just create a speed dial button for the application. This is what I've found to be easiest. That said, I've re-trained myself away from repeatedly closing apps (a-la WM Pro devices) and allow the internal memory manager to do it's job. I've opened task manager twice in as many weeks.

Cheerio
Howard



Posted by: Quatre

was pleasantly surprised mine came with a car charge and headphones. came with european/uk regular charger though and merchant through in an adapter. i'm assuming i can use any usb charger though and especially my other htc ppc phone charges like the 8525's.



Posted by: Quatre

Quote:
Originally Posted by HShortt
For opening task manager, just create a speed dial button for the application. This is what I've found to be easiest. That said, I've re-trained myself away from repeatedly closing apps (a-la WM Pro devices) and allow the internal memory manager to do it's job. I've opened task manager twice in as many weeks.

Cheerio
Howard


how do you creat a speed dial button for task manager

also, what screen protectors are you guys using.

ended up getting this case with clip cus there is no holster available anywhere for the Cavalier
http://www.boxwave.com/products/act...valier_2634.htm

but need a screen protector. its same size screen as the dash? and what other smartphones? so the screen protectors listed for those phones will fit.

i think many here said they were using teh ones from boxwave or soemthing for the dash?

i guess the holster that boxwave hsa for the s620/621 (not sure which or if those are the same anyway) will fit the s630 but i heard not as they are diff size/shape.

ended up just getting INvisible Shield screen protector cus with free shipping it was just as cheap or cheaper as ones on amazon. will have to see what all the hype is about with invisi shield.



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quatre
how do you creat a speed dial button for task manager

highlight the task manager icon, and press menu, the option to add speed dial comes up



Posted by: slim724

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quatre
also how do i switch it to 12hr and the date format cus the 24hr time and backwards euro date format with the day before the month (dd/mm/yy 23/10/2007) throws me off.

settings>regional settings, change language to US English, change the short date style appropriately, and change time format appropriately



Posted by: Quatre

thanks to both. figured out the date/time before now but hope it helps others.

so there is no htc s630 that comes with us charger? no big deal as its just standard usb charger like other htc & moto phones etc. & comes with car charger that should work with us car?



Posted by: BigSwirv

Man, I've had my C730 for about a week and I've had to hard reset twice. I tried to reboot my phone this morning and its been stuck on the Windows Mobile splash screen for over an hour ... anyone have any ideas about why this happens?



Posted by: marka2k

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwirv
Man, I've had my C730 for about a week and I've had to hard reset twice. I tried to reboot my phone this morning and its been stuck on the Windows Mobile splash screen for over an hour ... anyone have any ideas about why this happens?


3rd party software set to startup automatically????

Have you hard reset it and not install anyother software and see how it behaves? If it is good then install one at a time till you find the offending software.



Posted by: BigSwirv

The only new thing I installed this time was Smarttoolkit. It started acting up pretty quickly (buttons weren't displaying properly). Maybe I'll just avoid it for now.

Thanks for the suggestion!



Posted by: Clueless87

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwirv
Man, I've had my C730 for about a week and I've had to hard reset twice. I tried to reboot my phone this morning and its been stuck on the Windows Mobile splash screen for over an hour ... anyone have any ideas about why this happens?





I've had the C730 for about a month, and the same thing happened to me. Unfortunately, I can't get it to fully boot up. It just cycles through the "Dopod Ejoy Mobility" screen, then the "Windows Mobile" screen, then blank screen, then it vibrates and starts all over. Does anyone know how to stop this cycle, and get it to just boot up?



Posted by: ibeqa

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clueless87
I've had the C730 for about a month, and the same thing happened to me. Unfortunately, I can't get it to fully boot up. It just cycles through the "Dopod Ejoy Mobility" screen, then the "Windows Mobile" screen, then blank screen, then it vibrates and starts all over. Does anyone know how to s