The Official HTC S630 (Cavalier) Thread

Originally Posted by zZOOZz

Is there a cid unlock for the DOPOD C730 yet?

Originally Posted by sb0611

Are the keypad issues resolved now?

Originally Posted by bocastephen

Can anyone post the latest firmware on this board?? I can't register with my serial, and HTC wants photos of my phone, the box, the IMEI sticker behind the battery, a sample of my blood, and a snip of my hair before they will let me register. It's just ridiculous.

I tried Yahoo Go! last night and I have the problem with my phone for sure - I'd really like to know if the latest patch fixes this, and be able to download the patch without needing to prove to HTC I own the phone.

Originally Posted by bobes

it's on the xda ftp site

Originally Posted by ibeqa

A bit of advice, ROM on xda-developers is for dopod C730, if you try it on HTC S630 you will probably brick your device. For the moment there is no CID unlocker for cavalier so Dopod ROM on Dopod device - HTC ROM on HTC device.

Cheers

Originally Posted by bobes

it's on the xda ftp site

Originally Posted by bocastephen

I need to dig around the site to find the FTP area, since I'm not registered there. Does the new ROM fix the text input issue?

Originally Posted by ibeqa

Most of Dopod C730 don't have that kind of problem, usualy HTC S630 users have complained about text input problems, so I don't know - sorry

Cheers

Originally Posted by ibeqa

A bit of advice, ROM on xda-developers is for dopod C730, if you try it on HTC S630 you will probably brick your device. For the moment there is no CID unlocker for cavalier so Dopod ROM on Dopod device - HTC ROM on HTC device.

Cheers

Originally Posted by bobes

Good catch... thanks for that. I just assumed it was a Dopod.

No text inputting issues with my C730 either

Originally Posted by Quatre

been using my HTC Kaiser mostly and finally decided to use my s630 some. what page of this thread has the settings for att in usa?

windows update wont seem to work on it even using wifi

Originally Posted by haitianjac

someone please help me , how do i hard reset my c730 , also i desperatly need a bb connect that will work for this also . And finally i need a new rom i have the dopod rom it shipped with and any new one would be fine. Ive searched endlessly , joined the htc club and cant access it , sent countless emails to customer service and got no answer.

Originally Posted by xti1101

Food for thought:

The S630 / C630 aren't the only phones experiencing this problem as indicated by the MSDN thread.

What's interesting though is that on Oct 27th, the following post was made to the MSDN thread:


I know its a long shot for those who have the phone but is it possible to check what the update changes and possibly reverse engineer a patch for the S630?

Additionally, I'm wondering why HTC isn't officially disclosing this device? I'm interested in buying one but I'm simply shocked that theres no support nor is it listed on their website - you need to play with the url to even find a description --> http://www.htc.com/product/03-product_s630.htm
Whats going on here?!

Originally Posted by xti1101

I'm interested in buying one but I'm simply shocked that theres no support nor is it listed on their website...

Originally Posted by bobes

isn't dopod a subsid of HTC anyways?

HTC decided to release only in certain regions and within those regions it's a dopod... it's on the website, it's supported, and you could register it... I don't see a big difference...

Originally Posted by ibeqa

As a matter of fact Dopod exists only on letters (HTC boght all the shares earlier this year).
As I heared "this device is made for the Asian market", now Dopod operates in the Far East and AustralAsia, for the rest of Asia is HTC S630.
As for support, Dopod site and HTC Europe both support it. I'm registered on Dopod HK site - english version with my dopod and on HTC europe with my TyTN and the same Dopod and I have both devices on HTC site.

Cheers

Originally Posted by ibeqa

1. go to settings - clear storage = hard reset
2. go to ftp.xda-developers.com, locate cavalier (uploads section) folder, ROM is there.
3. BB Connect, you'll find it on Dopod site (you'll have to register with valid IMEI).

Cheers

Originally Posted by HShortt

@panflute
All your apps should run fine.

@Lukas_Joseph
Open comm manager from the start menu, there should be 8 options. Option 4 turns on/off wifi.

I'm going to sell my Dopod c730 with a bundle of stuff if anyone would be interested let me know.

Cheerio
Howard

Originally Posted by maevro

Someone was selling their c730 and said that it didn't have WiFi on it. I didn't think that was right but I wanted to double check with someone else who had it.

Originally Posted by panflute

I am interested in your C730.

Originally Posted by Lukas_Joseph

Well, I might have the unfortunate luck of having a Dopod C730 *without* WIFI. There is no way to turn on WIFI at all. I only get 7 options in Comm Manager even though the manual shows 8 options. I am missing the WLAN button. Settings->Connections also doesn't show any options for WIFI settings. It has the current ROM 1.16.708.7. I reloaded the ROM with negative results. I tried to load the WWE ROM 1.16.707.7 to see if it will fix it but it's CID locked so no go on that route. There's no CID unlock for the Cavalier.

I am not savvy enought to dig through registries so I guess this is a very expensive lesson learned for me. The previous owner claim that he never thought it had wifi to begin with although the box he sent it with clearly states it, with picture even.

My question to everyone is:

Is there anyway to verify that there's a WIFI hardware installed, short of opening the unit itself?

Originally Posted by sb0611

Do a hard reset and/or reload the latest ROM and see what happens.

Originally Posted by wazitup

whenever you post topic like this you need to post pictures of htc you are using

Originally Posted by bobes

anyone with a Dopod get myLocation (google maps) to work?
if so, what's the trick? I did the various appsunlocks and it still doesn't work

Originally Posted by Beretta1526

I think it may require GPS. If not, there is an option in GMaps that will allow you to set your location.

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Originally Posted by bobes

huh?

the mylocation with gmaps 2.0 uses cell sites for triangulation and acts like a quasi gps...

Originally Posted by panflute

I loaded Skype onto my C730, but each time I try to connect or call someone, even the test server, it closes. Anyone have any info on this?
thanks

Originally Posted by CoRupT

Dopod C730 vs Softbank X02HT whats the difference between the two. I would order from plemix.com


So is there any major difference or are they same phone? Also i would then later flash it to the HTC rom if one is available. Sorry i didnt really read through the thread, just skimmed the last few pages. Also they got the US 3G bands correct?

Thanks

Originally Posted by keiri

All three phones have the same bands: quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE and triband (850/1900/2100) UMTS/WCDMA.

I think the only real difference between the two phones are the colors and also which countries they're set-up for; the Dopod being setup with English/Chinese and the Softbank setup with Japanese/English.

I'm buying the Softbank X02HT White from Plemix next week myself.

K

Originally Posted by CoRupT

Same here, the Plemix Softbank model is way cheaper then the other ones.

Anyways, i read a lot of quality problems with the HTC Cavalier, do they exist with the Softbank model as well?

Also, what color you getting? i was thinking white but im leaning over the dark grey color

Originally Posted by keiri

I like the dark grey one with red lettering but the White one looks so much more exclusive; so I'm going for the white one.

And I'm hoping the Softbank model doesn't have any of the quality issues the Cavalier has but then again I haven't found many forums with members owning the X02HT.

K

Originally Posted by jonnywifi

Vertigo's keyboard fix is definitely the real deal. The only thing I've noticed, but doubt is related, is the fonts on some of my e-mails appears to be lighter.

I have to say the Cavalier (Dopod C730) has been such an unreliable device it does not surprise me when things just change by themselves... I've had 5 different occasions where I go to use it only to find it is completely hung, then when after I pull the battery to reset it, it comes up in Chinese and I have to start all over again... It's the only WM device I've had with such serious reliability problems.

I give the keyboard input fix from Vertigo1md1032 two thumbs up!

Jon

Originally Posted by Vertigo1md1032

No the fix is permanent and can not be removed without a hard reset. I understand your reluctance to install anything '3rd party' but trust me (and the rest of the guys that have already fixed their phones), you won't want to uninstall it.

In other news,
I'll be posting a new version soon that comes with a free copy of Ubuntu, OpenOffice, Gator, MyWebSearch, and one of those pictures where you are supposed to find the one thing wrong with it (but in the end it just scares you).... I'm just kidding. The file is clean and it does what I said it would. If you don't want to use it, that's cool too.

Origin of the file-
I tweaked the file with one of my friends that works for HTC Asia. Actually she did most of the work, I just tested it for her. We're also working on a fix for battery issues. She has the s630 (I have the c730), and we're both tired of waiting on everyone else to resolve these issues.


In the last year or so, I've considered getting a new phone about a dozen times, due to problems I've had with this one (crashes, hard resets, memory cards being automatically wiped, keyboard issues, etc.), but it really is one of the top five devices on the market. I will be keeping mine until the new Windows Mobile 6.1 rolls out, and you didn't hear it from me, but there may be an update to 6.1 for THIS DEVICE at some point in the future.

Just passing on what I know.

Joshua Sweeney

Originally Posted by Vertigo1md1032

Alright everybody, here is the fix!

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D0LWOX70

Originally Posted by bocastephen

Thank you for this hard work - but - I installed the fix, and tested it with Yahoo GO! and I still have the same issue.

There weren't any install instructions - once the file is downloaded, how do I install it? I just took a guess and did the following...

downloaded the file, extracted, saved as .zip, renamed .zip to .cab, copied to phone, selected the .cab file and it did some type of install. I restarted the phone...but still have the same keyboard problem.

Originally Posted by Vertigo1md1032

Originally Posted by brente

try this:
- download the .zip to your pc
- extract the .cab from the .zip and copy the .cab to your phone
- run the .cab with File Explorer to install it
- restart your phone (or shut it off, then turn it back on)

it should work after that

Originally Posted by Aggie

The fix works on my phone too (it's a softbank X02HT). Thanks very much for the fix!!

Originally Posted by CoRupT

Can you tell us if the Softbank model has the same problems as the HTC version?

Also what are the problems you have been facing?

Originally Posted by Vertigo1md1032

I'm glad you guys have enjoyed the fix. I do have one favor to ask in return though for all the work (and I don't know if HF will even let me post this)... Can somebody zip up a bunch of programs for the c730 and MegaUpload it for me? I mean *several cabs for games, others for tweaks (other than my own of course), various programs (weather would be nice), and such. I would really appreciate it. And yes I am sure that it's posted somewhere on some other site, but I had to wipe my c730 several times during testing and like an idiot, I didn't make a backup. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Aggie

Hey Vertigo1md1032, for starters, here are some links to some Cabs for the HTC Cavalier:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351462

Also - does the text input fix you created work in all applications? A user reported in another forum that it didn't fix the problem in applications like FuseSP and PocketDOS...

Originally Posted by ibeqa

Those cabs are already posted on this forum. Read the whole thread.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Raegoul

is there a way to change the sensitivity of the light meter on the s630. i've found that the keypad backlight doesn't come on until its crazy dark. i've been just putting my thumb over the sensor to fool it into coming on.

Originally Posted by CoRupT

okay so does the softbank model unbranded or there is some softbank/vodafone branding in the software? Since there is no CID unlocking will we able to upgrade the firmwares or even unbrand these suckers?

Originally Posted by Vertigo1md1032

I'm glad you guys have enjoyed the fix. I do have one favor to ask in return though for all the work (and I don't know if HF will even let me post this)... Can somebody zip up a bunch of programs for the c730 and MegaUpload it for me? I mean *several cabs for games, others for tweaks (other than my own of course), various programs (weather would be nice), and such. I would really appreciate it. And yes I am sure that it's posted somewhere on some other site, but I had to wipe my c730 several times during testing and like an idiot, I didn't make a backup. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by keiri

I ordered mine today CoRupT and it should be here by the end of the week; ordered from Plemix. I'll try and answer the branding question when it gets here.

K

Originally Posted by CoRupT

Hey, Did you get the phone?

Could you let me know how its been working and the quality etc.. and if there was any problems working in the US and under at&t 3G?

Originally Posted by CoRupT

I really want to buy it now not like i need anymore phones but i want a smartphone to use other then my iphone. Is the phone CID unlocked so we can flash a OEM HTC Flash or something to enable MMS?

Originally Posted by keiri

Yes, I got it late Friday evening (after I got home from work) and have been fooling with it ever since. In regards to branding; it's very light - only the carrier name on the front, the model name on the back, the Softbank settings regarding data, and Softbank's S-Mail. You will have to manually add the data settings for at&t WAP, IMS, and the Medianet proxy but those are simple.

So far, I think it's perfect for me; provides all the features I liked about the 8525 (Wi-Fi, dedicated push email, and QWERTY keypad) with the things I loved about the V9 (it fits into my pocket without making a noticeable decent, it's not too heavy or bulky, it's highly customizable, and it's sleek and well-designed).

I've only had a few issues with it really; it comes application locked and the MMS system is worthless. The first problem of it being app locked wasn't that big a deal when I first started installing programs to it but when I wanted to install the HTC Home program or something like SRS WOW HD audio enhancer it would tell me I had insufficient rights to do so. A quick Google (and some Babelfish translations) later and I found a guide to app unlock the phone - which worked flawlessly. The second problem isn't so easy; from some reason Softbank uses an MMS system/program which is incompatible with most of the world. So you can't send or receive (I don't really know about the second part...no one sends me MMS) MMS at all. I've tried every hack listed to get an alternative MMS program on the phone (even Asukal's guide for the X01HT) but to no success. One workaround I've begun using is just emailing the picture, video, etc. to the recipient's phone (via the xxxxxxxxxx@cingularme.com address where the x's are their phone number).

I haven't been able to drive to Raleigh or Charlotte (the nearest 3G areas in North Carolina until Fayetteville goes online sometime this year) so I can't tell you about it's ability to handle at&t's 3G but I'm quite sure it will. If I get time next week I'll definitely find out for you.

So other than those two niggles I think this is a great phone and I'm glad I bought it.

K

Originally Posted by shadowrtype

Hi Keiri. Thank you for the review of this model. I'm considering purchasing one too, but have been hesitant with concerns about the keyboard layout and potential system language problems. Does the keyboard have the English qwerty? I couldn't see any detailed pictures to see if the letter and symbol mapping is similar to the English-only language models. Is there any difficulties with the keyboard? Also does it boot up with Japanese or is there an option to pick English? I want to make sure I can navigate to set the language to English if needed.

Originally Posted by shadowrtype

Hi Keiri. Thank you for the review of this model. I'm considering purchasing one too, but have been hesitant with concerns about the keyboard layout and potential system language problems. Does the keyboard have the English qwerty? I couldn't see any detailed pictures to see if the letter and symbol mapping is similar to the English-only language models. Is there any difficulties with the keyboard? Also does it boot up with Japanese or is there an option to pick English? I want to make sure I can navigate to set the language to English if needed.

Originally Posted by thessaly

I've got a Softbank X02HT as well, and there is a bit of an issue with the keyboard mapping where the characters triggered by hitting FN+Z (to get the asterisk, for example) doesn't quite match up or is one button off. Can anyone else with the phone verify this? Otherwise, I've had no problems with using it in English.

Keiri, can you share how and what you used to unlock the phone?

Originally Posted by CoRupT

one favor keiri:
take some pics of that white cavalier! I wanna finally see some real pictures of that sucker

Originally Posted by CoRupT

That some good news about already being CID unlocked and the MMS can work?

Originally Posted by LOT767-300ER

Maybe I will chime in because this goes sort of with the discussion

I have a Softbank X02HT Black running on T-Mobile with MMS, and Full Internet configured.

I lost wifi drivers out of the blue then total recognition in comm manager a while back and to no soft/hard reset even helped. I eventually had to CID Unlock my Softbank, reload an older English only ROM (1.16.707.5) then reload a the current Dopod C730 ROM 1.16.708.7

I found out a couple things already about this mobile and here are my observations.

1. Softbank S/N do not work on Dopod/HTC asia website (at least mine didnt), therefore you cant get the latest ROM from them. A simple visit to XDA Developers fixes that issue though.
2. The CID lock on a Softbank will not let you load HTC or Dopod ROM.
3. The key mapping is sort of strange in some places, when they keypad is unlocked you have to press Unlock -> # not "*" as the phone advises you.
4. The latest ROM will reboot to Japanese after hard reset, no problem really to turn it back to English. Problems arise when it is already in English and you load a particular software (Skype Mobile) the software fires up in English then goes to Japanese. You have to manually reconfigure to English in software settings.
5. Dopod customer service is worse than calling Mumbai for Dell support.
6. Unknown reasons to me but the phone will lose WiFi WEP Key sometimes and I have to re-enter it. To the point where I remember it by heart.
7. The downward nav key sucks, you have to press it a certain way or else it will skip down or to the left or right.
8. I found that most CAB files specified for WM dont work, but the SmartPhones ones do...
9. No one has any idea what the hell SoftBank and Dopod are on this side of the globe (more often than not one has to go through the re-iteration that its a HTC S630), therefore this thing has a curiosity factor of 100000 in any cell store (which in turn also turns out that almost no one even on here has any idea how to deal with ROM and driver issues with this phone)
10. ActiveSync still sucks. Coming from Samsung PC Studio to this is like going back to the Stone Age. Lets not talk about Media Player Mobile, because the Audio Manager in this phone is better than MPM.
11. When you load something other than Windows Default desktop the screen tends to scroll much slower especially when specifying Windows Live, Skype or any other desktop.
12. On every startup network wizard pops up notifying you that the service provider (in my case TMob and probably such is the case for ATT) is not supported and asks if you want to switch. Easy fix is to delete the network wizard files in file manager.

Some pictures:



I could not for the hell of it figure out how to CID unlock this sucker for free and I tried every method, had to eventually get a .unl keyfile for a price.



Uhhhh what? No, thats wrong.

MMS Works flawlesly on T-Mobile for me and is only a question of setting up WAP and MMSC settings. Something is wrong with your ATT settings there buddy.



Yea its CID locked. Try and load another ROM on it.

Regards from Florida

Originally Posted by keiri

My WAP is setup correctly. Can you tell how and where you setup the MMSC settings? Did you have MMS setup with the Softbank ROM or the Dopod ROM or both?

K

Originally Posted by JonSev

My S630 just like...died.

On friday it my Wifi randomly stopped working, so after a couple of tries of putting in the network key I actually deleted the network off my phone and tried it again. Nothing.

I just noticed now that it doesnt see my memory card either. Its weird.

I hard-reset the phone and still nothing. Any suggestions?
Kind of sucks because the Wifi is the reason I chose the S630 over a blackjack...

Originally Posted by LOT767-300ER

There is no Softbank ROM. Its just Dopod and Im sure you have ROM 1.16.708.7 just like myself if your unit is fairly new. Be aware that unless you CID unlock it you wont be able to load the same ROM or the previous ones if something goes haywire.

Originally Posted by keiri

And that might be the problem; my ROM is 1.20.761.4.

Originally Posted by keiri

And that might be the problem; my ROM is 1.20.761.4. And my messaging doesn't have an option for text messaging, or MMS;

Originally Posted by LOT767-300ER

Can someone that has a Dopod C730 go and download the BB Connect software from their website and upload/send it to me? This would save me alot of time.

Originally Posted by LOT767-300ER

Well, as Ive said before, same thing happened to my WLAN card in my Softbank which took me 8 hours to figure out how to fix without total ROM flash. That didnt succeed, naturally. So I gave up and unlocked it and loaded ROM 1.16.707.5 then back to 1.16.708.7 Asia. The worst part was that for the 10 minutes it was loading each ROM I was praying over it with the holy rosary for it not to brick

If there is no ROM download for the S630 (Alot of posts to read ), you could always try and get the .unl Keyfile to CID unlock a Softbank/Dopod and see if it works...which it very well could. Too bad you will spend $ and cry if it doesnt work + you could brick the phone

Originally Posted by LOT767-300ER

When did you get this phone? Can you go into Settings --> Device Information and take a snapshot for me and post it here tonight also? I want to see it to believe it

Well, for a little $ and praying you can have your MMS by CID Unlock and flash to 1.16.708.7

Originally Posted by keiri

From Settings -> Device Information:

K

Originally Posted by bobes

you have a later rom (radio and CE)... I wonder if I can put in a softbank rom into a dopod... with my radio, I get dropped calls often.

Is there anyway to tell if the phone is CID unlocked besides trying to flash a rom?

also, where did you buy the CID unlock from?

Originally Posted by ibeqa