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Posted by: mark mackarus

I just got the inside tip from Nokia that an updated version of their mapping software, Nokia Maps, is due to be launched over the next few days, with some really cool updates. I have managed to secure pre-launch access to the software and already started playing with it on my Nokia N95. Before writing about my preview, I’ll share what they told me to expect.

http://thenokiablog.com/2007/06/15/...maps-10-update/

Posted by: 95%

That's good news. The program has a lot of potential, but clearly the existing version needs improvement. I'm especially glad they have made Search more intuitive.

Will the update be available to N95 owners as a *.sis application, or will we have to wait for it to be incorporated in the next firmware revision?

Posted by: PapaDocta

download the new map loader from here
http://www.smart2go.com/en/

v1.1 along with an update for the N95 built in software!

Posted by: DPsci

Wow, downloading at 36 KB/sec from an edu connection. Somehow I think the claim of improved download speeds is slightly exaggerated.

EDIT: Downloading the maploader itself.

Posted by: chops

all i see is v1.0 still avail for download from smart2go

File: NOKIA_Maps_1_0_S60_update.SIS
File size: 2.66 MB

Posted by: PapaDocta

download maps has been improved from the first version..

@chopsu3i see the pic

but the weird thing after installing the version of Maps didn't change still v3 w12 b02

Posted by: w810fan

The version I installed last Friday on my N76 is v3.0 wk07 b01
I wonder if they have different versions for different phones.

Posted by: mark mackarus

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaDocta

download maps has been improved from the first version..

@chopsu3i see the pic

but the weird thing after installing the version of Maps didn't change still v3 w12 b02

here's a screenshot of the about screen after the update. I don't know what version number that originally came with my Nokia N95. Can someone take a screenshot of their N95?

Posted by: edooward

I don't have a program to take a screenshot but my N95 Map software has a version v3.0 wk12 b02 OpenGL OpenBit MN

Posted by: PapaDocta

here it is

did you install it to the memory card or the phone ? i installed mine to the memory card and now when i try to install it again to the phone memory i get update error

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by edooward

I don't have a program to take a screenshot but my N95 Map software has a version v3.0 wk12 b02 OpenGL OpenBit MN

Ditto for me.

The Smart2Go .sis files on the website apparently don't apply to the N95. We already have the program in the firmware, and it blocks these updates. I tried installing the .sis file for the N76, but it was rejected. Looks like we'll have to wait for a firmware revision.

Posted by: xinhang

Smart2go dont support n93 anymore

it only support n93i? should i download generic or n93i version.

Posted by: tehcypress

if you guys have the .sis can you post it?

Posted by: Phat^Trance

anyone have the sis file for n95?

Posted by: THETRUTH#34

yes please post it

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat^Trance

anyone have the sis file for n95?

I doubt it exists.

Posted by: PapaDocta

here ya go guys.. i wonder why it was removed from their site i downloaded this file from their site a few hours ago and there was N95 in the list!!

http://rapidshare.com/files/3741167...update.rar.html

Posted by: mark mackarus

I posted some screenshots of the preview. Keep in mind that the software is still not a final version. Leave a comment at the blog post if you want to try. I am only allowed to give it to a few people. I'll ask if I can publicly post the file on the blog though and wait for a response.

http://thenokiablog.com/2007/06/15/...maps-10-update/

Posted by: fidorulz

Any changes on GPS lock on? Seems software plays a part since R66 seems faster and also MGMaps seems faster to lock on then Smart2go

Posted by: w810fan

The version I downloaded and installed on my N76 says version
v1.1wk23b04
The maps must be new also. The Texas map is now 109.9mb instead of 114mb.
Download is very fast now. Before it took 1 hour to download Texas map. Now only 5 minutes.
Also I notice maploader says to put phone in mass storage mode. Before it said to put phone in pc suite mode.

Posted by: Candyman

Installed the update on my N95 and it is definatley newer than the one that came bundled with the N95 eventhough the version number is lower.

I did notice that once installed, you cannot erase it as it doesn't have it listed in the App. Mgr. screen. It seems to overwrite the original one.

Posted by: w810fan

You can also download the voices with map loader now.

Posted by: Candyman

Downloading maps with the Map Loader is sooooo much faster now.

Before to download the Ontario map, it took me over 8 hours. I did it in under 2 minutes now!!!

Posted by: fidorulz

Loader works great just hope software can help the GPS lock speed

Posted by: mahchoud

Do I install the app to the phone or memory card on N95?

Posted by: fidorulz

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahchoud

Do I install the app to the phone or memory card on N95?

I put it on my memory card and it works fine

Posted by: Dinan

Wow... the updated app is WAY laggier than the original... it's painful to browse around maps now!

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman

Installed the update on my N95 and it is definatley newer than the one that came bundled with the N95 eventhough the version number is lower.

I did notice that once installed, you cannot erase it as it doesn't have it listed in the App. Mgr. screen. It seems to overwrite the original one.

It's interesting what they did. The original version was included with the firmware on the N95. This update replaces it. But like the original and unlike every other *.sis application I've ever installed, it's not listed in the Application Manager as a removable app.

Posted by: edooward

Oh... crazy. 95% you're right. I just checked mine out and it's not there.

So far I couldn't even get a solid lock on it. It'll lock for a brief moment and then back to search mode.

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinan

Wow... the updated app is WAY laggier than the original... it's painful to browse around maps now!

I think it has to show up in a firmware update to fix that.

Posted by: Dinan

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1329

I think it has to show up in a firmware update to fix that.

Yeah... oh well. I'll just use Tomtom or Route66... both are worlds better than smart2go.

Posted by: sr1329

I just tried it and it really seems to pick up satellites a lot faster. However the search is still messed up and the right soft button now just says "exit" instead of GPS position. You have to go into the menu to find GPS position now which is stupid.

Posted by: Dinan

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1329

I just tried it and it really seems to pick up satellites a lot faster. However the search is still messed up and the right soft button now just says "exit" instead of GPS position. You have to go into the menu to find GPS position now which is stupid.

To find GPS position you can just press "0" on the number pad now. That used to be 3D/2D switching... for that I guess you have to navigate the menu.

Posted by: Xenctuary

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95%

But you can just hit the C button whilst selecting Maps on the menu to delete it. It shows up with the "Remove smart2go" option for me (I haven't attempted to remove it though!).

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenctuary

But you can just hit the C button whilst selecting Maps on the menu to delete it. It shows up with the "Remove smart2go" option for me (I haven't attempted to remove it though!).

If you see an entry there, it's probably just the installer *.sis file, which you can delete. But the application itself doesn't appear, at least on my phone.

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenctuary

But you can just hit the C button whilst selecting Maps on the menu to delete it. It shows up with the "Remove smart2go" option for me (I haven't attempted to remove it though!).

I just re-read your post, and you're absolutely right. On the main menu (not Application Manager) there is an option to remove Maps. The same is true of other add-in applications, but not of integrated components such as Contacts. Very interesting. Why there's no entry in Application Manager, I don't know.

Posted by: Dinan

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95%

When I try to remove it, it says "Removal Failed"

Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark mackarus

I just got the inside tip from Nokia that an updated version of their mapping software, Nokia Maps, is due to be launched over the next few days, with some really cool updates. I have managed to secure pre-launch access to the software and already started playing with it on my Nokia N95. Before writing about my preview, I’ll share what they told me to expect.

http://thenokiablog.com/2007/06/15/...maps-10-update/

Shameless NB plug!

Quote:

Navigation Trial: 3-day free Navigation trial

That excites me actually. If it works out with my E90 I might splurge for the 1yr deal as I plan on keeping it for a long time to come....

Posted by: Rcadden

hmmm, so should I install it or not?

Posted by: Toaster

Is there a tomtom for built in n95 gps???

Posted by: Candyman

I am now having issues downloading maps using 1.1 loader.

It downloads superfast, but then it gives me an error that the storage device is no longer found when my N95 is indeed connected. I tried using my memory card reader as well and still nothing.

Posted by: shortcut3d

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

hmmm, so should I install it or not?

Thats my question.

Posted by: a780

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman

I am now having issues downloading maps using 1.1 loader.

It downloads superfast, but then it gives me an error that the storage device is no longer found when my N95 is indeed connected. I tried using my memory card reader as well and still nothing.

No problems with 1.1 loader for E61i directly to the phone in mass storage mode.

Posted by: mark mackarus

faster gps fix so far today but not sure if it was the software update or if the sky was clearer today. liking the new colors too.

Posted by: Toaster

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark mackarus

faster gps fix so far today but not sure if it was the software update or if the sky was clearer today. liking the new colors too.

the gps fix time varies (or has for me) there are times it locks on in 30-60 seconds... other times it can search for 10 mins.

Posted by: J.Bruha

I just installed the N95 update and the new map loader. I'm very happy with both. The new map loader matches the black colors of the N series PC Suite and has an icon that makes more sense.

I'd say the satellite lock is better, but I've never had a problem with it. I was able to get a signal within 2 minutes from my bedroom window.

Aside from looking more gorgeous on my N95, I think my favorite feature is the "Search nearby". I can't wait to try the navigation.

Posted by: chops

huh so the 1.0 i downloaded earlier this morning really is the "update" and they really did get rid of the n95 option on the smart2go website..wonder why.

Posted by: Phat^Trance

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaDocta

here ya go guys.. i wonder why it was removed from their site i downloaded this file from their site a few hours ago and there was N95 in the list!!

http://rapidshare.com/files/3741167...update.rar.html

thx alot m8

btw i also got a faster GPS fix but today its a clear blue sky so i cannot b e shur about the fix yet =)

Posted by: Phat^Trance

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

I just installed the N95 update and the new map loader. I'm very happy with both. The new map loader matches the black colors of the N series PC Suite and has an icon that makes more sense.

I'd say the satellite lock is better, but I've never had a problem with it. I was able to get a signal within 2 minutes from my bedroom window.

Aside from looking more gorgeous on my N95, I think my favorite feature is the "Search nearby". I can't wait to try the navigation.

were did you download the new map loader from? it isnt listed on smart2go.com

Posted by: kyleboneme

map loader update is at
http://www.nokia.com/A4353385

Posted by: PapaDocta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phat^Trance

thx alot m8

btw i also got a faster GPS fix but today its a clear blue sky so i cannot b e shur about the fix yet =)

np mate

glad that i could help

cheers

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dinan

When I try to remove it, it says "Removal Failed"

Same here. While I'm given the option to remove Maps from the menu, I can’t actually do it.

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman

I had that problem too. It downloads the maps, then performs a file verification check, which always fails.

Posted by: 95%

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

hmmm, so should I install it or not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by shortcut3d

Thats my question.

Shortcut – you’ve posted elsewhere, in detail, the results of a real-world test of smart2go in several cities, and compared it with the system offered by your rental car company. Rick has reviewed several of these programs. So, as power users, you’ll probably appreciate the improvements of the update, as long as you don’t have trouble downloading the maps, as Candyman and I did.

I’m not crazy about smart2go. While it’s great to be able to store the maps, which the free Java apps don’t do, the UI is just too confusing to me. I hate to point out the obvious, but as you personally know, a factory-installed automotive navigation system makes all these alternatives look like toys. They’re handy at times when you’re away from your car, for example in a hotel room, where you can look for POI’s. Rick, who is good at finding innovative uses for his phones, used his N95 as a mariner’s tool.

Posted by: Dinan

Tomtom or Route66 are both better than smart2go imo. I can't even deal with how laggy it is while browsing maps of London... Googlemaps is even faster while downloading via EDGE! (Route 66 uses internal GPS btw)

Takes forever to zoom in/out if you're looking at city maps and even longer to start doing anything... I don't understand how Tomtom and Route66 can have the same exact information but run so much smoother... (And I thought Tomtom was laggy!!)

Posted by: pfreitas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

hmmm, so should I install it or not?

of cuz....yip.... (sorry...Angel bot acting up again)

....then throw an update to your initial review over at SG.

Posted by: Candyman

I am wondering.....since they (Nokia) have pulled the N95 off their list at smart2go.com, do I smell a new firmware coming soon with this new update already bundled for the N95???

Posted by: mlear

right,

downloaded new map loaded, cleared maps from old map loader on memory card, then re installed new maps on new map loader. done so in about 20 min for 100mb so def a lot quicker.

then with the new map software, installed it the memory card. however there has been no change to the map software ie. it is the same as before. tried to re install the new software to phones memory - no, tried to unistall old maps software - no, and cant find the new map software which was just installed on the memory card so cant even unistall that.

sorry about this but any advise is welcomed.

thanks in advance and hope i explained well!!!

Posted by: Rcadden

I already know there's a new internal N95 firmware 12.xx.x.x or whatever. I wouldn't doubt if this is included.

I went ahead and installed it. On second thought, though, I should have walked outside and timed the sat lock before doing so, for comparison. Oh well.

I know that these solutions pale in comparison to full-blown setups, but those fullblown setups are also standalone, don't update maps easily, and are stuck in your car, and cost $400+, when you've already spent as much as you did on your phone. TO me, they're not an option.

Posted by: D4SSWME

downloaded the "rar" file and then installed it but when I open up MAPS, it still looks the same as the previous version

why is that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlear

right,

downloaded new map loaded, cleared maps from old map loader on memory card, then re installed new maps on new map loader. done so in about 20 min for 100mb so def a lot quicker.

then with the new map software, installed it the memory card. however there has been no change to the map software ie. it is the same as before. tried to re install the new software to phones memory - no, tried to unistall old maps software - no, and cant find the new map software which was just installed on the memory card so cant even unistall that.

sorry about this but any advise is welcomed.

thanks in advance and hope i explained well!!!

Posted by: Phat^Trance

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleboneme

map loader update is at
http://www.nokia.com/A4353385

is that the new map loader or the old one??

btw nokia maps on that page download work to download...

can anyone upload the new application for us to download??

Posted by: mlear

must be that this link is to the old version of maps software!!! please link to new version!!!

Posted by: 20blks

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlear

must be that this link is to the old version of maps software!!! please link to new version!!!

The link to the new on is in this thread. Post #50

Posted by: mlear

this isnt the new one. well it doesnt work!???

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlear

this isnt the new one. well it doesnt work!???

It does work. Are you installing it on a N95?

Posted by: mlear

yeh??? am completely lost as to why this isnt working? any ideas!!!?>??? thanks in advance

Posted by: Dinan

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlear

yeh??? am completely lost as to why this isnt working? any ideas!!!?>??? thanks in advance

You're not trying to install a rar file on your phone are you?

Posted by: mlear

haha no. i know enough about phones and computers. extracted the file to my comp then use ps suite to install it to the phone. it installed first time and i chose to install to mem card. however the maps software is no different and clearly not been updated so i tried to install again but this time to phone mem but then it says install failed etc. please help getting frustrated!!!

Posted by: THETRUTH#34

can someone with a mac tell me how do i extract a rar file, just got the mac last week and i have no idea, if not can someone just give me the is file thanks guys.

Posted by: PapaDocta

@mlear,

you can only run the update once... if try to run it again you will get update error

@THETRUTH#34,

try http://www.unrarx.com/ it's very simple app or StuffIt Deluxe will do the job

Posted by: y2jdmbfan

Anyone have a copy of the new maploader? I can't seem to download it from anywhere...Thanks. I have the new version of the Maps software already...

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2jdmbfan

Anyone have a copy of the new maploader? I can't seem to download it from anywhere...Thanks. I have the new version of the Maps software already...

http://europe.nokia.com/A4353385

Posted by: D4SSWME

same story here...have tried installing twice no and getting no errors but the Maps programs still looks the same as the original

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlear

haha no. i know enough about phones and computers. extracted the file to my comp then use ps suite to install it to the phone. it installed first time and i chose to install to mem card. however the maps software is no different and clearly not been updated so i tried to install again but this time to phone mem but then it says install failed etc. please help getting frustrated!!!

Posted by: y2jdmbfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman

http://europe.nokia.com/A4353385

That like doesn't work for me. Can anyone else verify it doesn't work for them?

Thanks,

Y2J

Posted by: D4SSWME

after I click on accept rules.....dadada, it hangs

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2jdmbfan

That like doesn't work for me. Can anyone else verify it doesn't work for them?

Thanks,

Y2J

Posted by: mlear

@papadoctor

what do i do then, i have installed it but no change in software any suggestions ? thanks

Posted by: y2jdmbfan

Can I use the old Maploader version with the new Nokia Maps?

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2jdmbfan

Can I use the old Maploader version with the new Nokia Maps?

The new one is so much faster in terms of download times! With the old version it took me over 4 hours to get a 40mb map. Now with the new one, I can get the same map in under 2 minutes.

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by D4SSWME

after I click on accept rules.....dadada, it hangs

Server must be busy.

Posted by: PapaDocta

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlear

@papadoctor

what do i do then, i have installed it but no change in software any suggestions ? thanks

i installed too and nothing changed.. i think we'll have to wait for the new firmware.. i don't use Maps at all i prefer mgmaps and route66 right at the moment. for taking tracks i use SportTracker.

Posted by: y2jdmbfan

Can someone possibly send me the new version? I can't get it to work with the old one and the new Nokia Maps....Send me a PM and I will give you my email.

Thanks,

Y2J

Posted by: Candyman

How about this:

Nokia Map Loader v1.1
http://rapidshare.com/files/3761121...1Setup.zip.html

Posted by: J.Bruha

You'll definitely know if you have the new version of either software. The new map loader has a black splash screen and the loader itself is black instead of purple (not to mention, it'll download in less than 1/3 of the time). The new maps application on the N95 has a new start up as well, that says "Nokia Maps" in huge letters above the globe.

I don't know what everyone is doing wrong. I downloaded the map loader from the Nokia Europe link in post #50 and downloaded the new Maps for N95 from the rapidshare link provided by PapaDocta. I guess just make sure you're installing it to the phone memory? It takes a while to install, but it works.

Also, if you try to remove the new version of Maps after upgrading, it's not surprising that you get a "Download Failed" error message. The Maps application is part of the firmware, so you can't remove it entirely. Even when it says "Download Failed", I'll bet the upgrade has been removed. This works the same way when you're updating Quick Office.

Posted by: y2jdmbfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman

How about this:

Nokia Map Loader v1.1
http://rapidshare.com/files/3761121...1Setup.zip.html

Thanks!!!!

Posted by: J.Bruha

Well, nevermind. I just got to trying the new Maps application out on the road and they removed the only functionality I used on it: the tracking. I'm going to give the free 3 day trial of the navigation a try, but if it's not worth it, I'll be going back to the old version. The tracking was the only thing that made the GPS useful out of the box without any charges!

Posted by: chops

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

Well, nevermind. I just got to trying the new Maps application out on the road and they removed the only functionality I used on it: the tracking. I'm going to give the free 3 day trial of the navigation a try, but if it's not worth it, I'll be going back to the old version. The tracking was the only thing that made the GPS useful out of the box without any charges!

oh helllll no. i installed it last night but havent checked the tracking thing. if its gone time for a master reset or reflash. cuz im not paying for navi.

Posted by: Phat^Trance

hm streange, i installed the 1.1 map loader but the thing is that it seems to NOT download maps but only a voice package on 3mb! i cannot find anywere to download the maps...

last time i downloaded the sweden maps it took me about 90mb of my memory card and not 3mb...

Posted by: J.Bruha

The voices should be a tab just like the Maps on the new map loader.

Posted by: Rcadden

yeah I noticed that the zoom in upon sat lock isn't there anymore. That's gay. However, there could easily be a new version before the "official" re-launch, seeing as hwo this release was intended just for specific bloggers

Posted by: w810fan

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

That's all I used it for also. Maybe the final version will have it. I had a beta version of smart2go on my N73 originally that would only track sometimes. I haven't tried this new version on my N76 yet but I'm sure it will be the same as the one you are using on the N95. I would hate to have to uninstall this version and go back. I uninstalled the old version before putting the new version on and it took over an hour to uninstall. I assume part of it was because it uninstalls the map also and the Texas map was 114mb.

Posted by: Darla

I hope you guys know that the version that you are downloading for the N95 isn't the final version. The app is named by weeks because its still in development and has a few bugs.

The title of the app that I received is:

Smart2go_Live_wk23_b004_open

This version is missing the licensing for the 3-day trial.

Posted by: Phat^Trance

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

The voices should be a tab just like the Maps on the new map loader.

i have only one tab and thats voices.. nothing more...

Posted by: w810fan

The new version on my N76 tracks my position just fine.

Posted by: daraj

Update error everytime I try to install it .

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rcadden

yeah I noticed that the zoom in upon sat lock isn't there anymore. That's gay. However, there could easily be a new version before the "official" re-launch, seeing as hwo this release was intended just for specific bloggers

Also no full screen. It insists on showing you what the two softkeys do. I really hope they fix these issues before final launch. Other than that it locks onto satellites much faster IMHO.

Posted by: riel

So I am guessing it's better to wait for the final version, when the bugs are cleared and all.

Posted by: chops

yea id definately wait...it gets locks alot faster from my experience trying to find the party last night, but it also lost the lock fast as well...and not having the tracking feature made it pretty hard to figure out if we were going the right way.

Posted by: daraj

Ok managed to install it fine after resetting the phone. The Gps now locks from inside my bedroom before I had to go outside the house to get a fix. Definitely an improvement in this side. I like the clouds and the colorful layout. Absence of Gps Pos. sucks.

On the other side when I start navigating there is no voice. I try to install them when it asks me, it says THESE FILES CANOT BE USED OR DOWNLOADED..... I even download them from maploader but no good. NO VOICE..

Posted by: chops

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darla

I hope you guys know that the version that you are downloading for the N95 isn't the final version. The app is named by weeks because its still in development and has a few bugs.

The title of the app that I received is:

Smart2go_Live_wk23_b004_open

This version is missing the licensing for the 3-day trial.

yea i have that same one.

Posted by: Phat^Trance

does anyone know why im only getting voices tag on the new map loader and not the download maps??? i thought that map loader was an application to download the maps to the memory card and not just voices..

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4926/image1lf5.jpg

Posted by: daraj

Did you connect your phone in mass storage mode before opening map loaader? Do you have SD card? Did you run map loader at least one time before downloading maps?

Posted by: Candyman

*** UPDATE ***

For those who downloaded and installed the new Map Loader before this post, go back and redownload it again off of smart2go's website.

Seems to be an updated version as the filename is now 1.1f instead of just 1.1.

Posted by: PapaDocta

thanks for the update dude

Posted by: Candyman

Hope this fixes the issues some people were having (i.e. missing tabs, missisng maps, connectivity issues).

Posted by: PapaDocta

still missing maps ...

Posted by: Candyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaDocta

still missing maps ...

Oh well.....I am gonna try my connectivity issues I was having on my PC at home and hope they at least fixed that.

Posted by: J.Bruha

I'm still waiting for the tracking to come back on the phone application in a newer version. I'm not paying another $12/month for navigation, even if it is worth it.

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman

Hope this fixes the issues some people were having (i.e. missing tabs, missisng maps, connectivity issues).

Those problems afaik were due to having the old maps on the phone still. Even when you install maploader 1.1, the maploader 1.0 still resides on your computer, so use that to delete all maps and then use the 1.1 maploader.

I actually just browsed my memory and deleted the maps, and that worked fine. I still used the maploader to delete maps just to be sure and then I redownloaded them.

Posted by: fldude99

OK..just finished reading this entire thread and my conclusion is to wait for the firmware upgrade or the complete version. Regarding the new maploader however, what is the difference between the maps downloaded from the "old" 1.0 and the "new" 1.1? Can the maps downloaded from the 1.1 be used on the original maps software included on the phone?

Posted by: J.Bruha

I really, REALLY want the new firmware or new version, or whatever. As long as it has tracking, I WANT IT. I'm not paying for a prototype version that doesn't have tracking OR a 3 day trial.

I can wait.

Posted by: ihavenolife00

What do you mean by tracking? The Zero (0) key still goes to GPS position. Are you saying it no longer follows you, requiring you to push zero to relock onto current positions?

I'm also curious if anything has changed with the map downloads. My guess is they just add some new points of interest.

Also, any reason why the current version for download ends in *28.sis versus the one I downloaded a few days ago ending in *30.sis?

Posted by: J.Bruha

No, the actual Tracking portion of the application. When you planned a route, you had the options of three things: Start Tracking, Start Navigation, or Start Simulation. Navigation is the pay service, Simulation is... a simulation...of what you'd experience if you had paid for navigation, and tracking was the best of both worlds for free. It tracked your location on the map against the route you planned, but there weren't any voice prompts for when to turn. All you had to do was keep an eye on it every once in a while to get where you need to be, and it's no longer there.

Posted by: ihavenolife00

Thanks for the info. With that said, I still have the older version. I think someone mentioned the software is a part of the phone now, but uninstalling shouldn't be a major problem? That tracking sounds like an interesting part of the program I never tried.

Posted by: J.Bruha

No, you know what, I take that back. It still has tracking. . .kinda.

You just have to plan a route and select "Show on Map". Doing this allows you to track your location and it also turns the map appropriately when you make turns so the map still points in the direction you're heading at all times.

I feel dumb.

Posted by: ihavenolife00

Does the planned route re-route when off course (assuming it does so at all using show on map)?

Posted by: J.Bruha

No, it doesn't. That'd be something navigation does.

Posted by: ihavenolife00

I see what you mean...

I tried uninstalling the new version to go back to an old version but hit a few snags. They uninstall hangs at the end, and when I try to install the old version I just get the new version again. It's odd....

Anyway, I enjoy this newer version. However, in imperial measurements the "y" in yd gets cut off.

Also, the show on map is nice, but isn't quite as useful as navigation. My gripe is that navigation costs money along with the guides, but I don't have an idea of what either provides. I don't know about everyone else, but it is a pain to type out addresses on these phones without a qwerty keyboard.

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

I really, REALLY want the new firmware or new version, or whatever. As long as it has tracking, I WANT IT. I'm not paying for a prototype version that doesn't have tracking OR a 3 day trial.

I can wait.

Unfortunately that's what happens when you download a beta version. It is 2 bad you can't revert to the original maps software. I still would like to know what the difference is between the maps downloaded from 1.0 and 1.1. Can the maps downloaded with the 1.1 be used with the original software?

Posted by: ArLequin

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

I'm still waiting for the tracking to come back on the phone application in a newer version. I'm not paying another $12/month for navigation, even if it is worth it.

JB:

Have you tried the new AmazeGPS??? Now works with integrated GPS and has voice navigation. Really a sweet program (if you have unlimited Edge)..

Give it a try.

Alan

Posted by: itzjonjon69

anyone else having a problem downloading maps? it downloads fine but when it gets ready to save it, it keeps saying medium storage interrupted etc. WTF!

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArLequin

JB:

Have you tried the new AmazeGPS??? Now works with integrated GPS and has voice navigation. Really a sweet program (if you have unlimited Edge)..

Give it a try.

Alan

Problem with these programs that download maps "on the fly" is that you are constantly in a situation where you will miss an important phone call while accessing data. Thats one reason for the nokia maps being a handy deal when you have the maps on the mem card. Of course 3G would take care of that problem

Posted by: xinhang

Ditch smart2go.. use tomtom6

i find it to be BETTER

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by xinhang

Ditch smart2go.. use tomtom6

i find it to be BETTER

When tomtom is compatible with the internal GPS I may go for it

Posted by: J.Bruha

@ ArLequin, I have tried all the free Java GPS applications and I wasn't really impressed with any of them. As fldude said, downloading maps on the fly isn't the best way to do it. I have an umlimited data plan, but it takes too long and I really didn't like the way it was organized.

I also feel remorseful if I don't use the built-in apps. I know some are better and worse, but I really liked the built-in Maps/Smart2Go since day one.

@xinhang, if I can find TomTom for free that works with the N95, I'll be all over it. I can't afford another $150 application on top of the cost of the N95.

Posted by: xinhang

oh yea. im sorry i forgot everyone here use n95

im the only loser who dont have a n95

Posted by: J.Bruha

That doesn't make you a loser! Same team, man! You just value your extra $400 more than we N95 users do.

Posted by: fldude99

OK..question: Is there any reason to delete and re-download the same maps currently on my mem card with the new maploader?

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by fldude99

OK..question: Is there any reason to delete and re-download the same maps currently on my mem card with the new maploader?

Yeah, the maps are different. If you keep the old maps it will try to download the current maps while you use the program.

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1329

Yeah, the maps are different. If you keep the old maps it will try to download the current maps while you use the program.

Since I downloaded the entire state of FL, the maps program never really tries to download anything while I'm using it..what is different about the "new" maps?

Posted by: kivenage

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha

No, you know what, I take that back. It still has tracking. . .kinda.

You just have to plan a route and select "Show on Map". Doing this allows you to track your location and it also turns the map appropriately when you make turns so the map still points in the direction you're heading at all times.

how are you doing this? when i do 'show on map' it's just static, allows me to look at points 1,2,3... but doesn't do any tracking? i'm using 1.1

Posted by: ihavenolife00

I also get static with options to choose set points.

Posted by: J.Bruha

After testing it more thoroughly, I was right the first time. When you have a route shown on the map, it doesn't show your GPS position, or follow it.

Ricky has posted that apparently the new firmware has the tracking feature back in it however.

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by fldude99

Since I downloaded the entire state of FL, the maps program never really tries to download anything while I'm using it..what is different about the "new" maps?

Well the new maps actually fixed my issue where it would find "Borders" locations in England before it found ones in NYC. It seems that the new maps have more shops and restaurants, and they come up on searches better now. If you are in a big city getting the Wcities guide is nice also, I got one for NYC and it really fleshes out the shops and restaurants a lot better. All the places are integrated into the map really well.

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1329

So is the consensus that the maps themselves are improved and different..and not just the maploader program?

Posted by: wilson_sony

Hi, I have update the map to v1.1 wk23 for my Nokia n95, but when loading the map it doen't auto zoom to your location like the original version, and also missing some other usefull features and functions as below:
1.) When starting map no auto zoom -- you have to press * to zoom in ?
2.) on standby map or navigation -- to view 3D you have to press "option" and go to "map option" to change instead of easy short cut "0" on the key pad
3.) Missing Tracking when you finish plan the road

If the feature is there or any one know please kindly let me know !
Also I would like to revert back to original version , if possible?

Thanks

Posted by: AntonisCy

Hi guys.

When i connect my phone to map loader 1.1 and connect through USB, it sayd that my memory card is not available to use.

So i get a connection error after i download a map and try to install it.

Why is my memory card not open to this connection? its not password proteced

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntonisCy

Hi guys.

When i connect my phone to map loader 1.1 and connect through USB, it sayd that my memory card is not available to use.

So i get a connection error after i download a map and try to install it.

Why is my memory card not open to this connection? its not password proteced

Connect your mem card directly to your computer with a mem card reader-don't use the phone. If you use the phone you have to set to mass storage on the phone

Posted by: AntonisCy

how can i set the mass storage on the phone?

Because i dont have a card reader

Thanks

Posted by: D4SSWME

when you connect the phone through usb to the computer, it will ask you to select a mode whether pc suite, mass storage, etc

Posted by: AntonisCy

thats what i do. And it says that the memory card is not available. Cant i use the phones memory to install the map?

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntonisCy

thats what i do. And it says that the memory card is not available. Cant i use the phones memory to install the map?

For crying out loud just get a mem card reader

Posted by: AntonisCy

so this cant be done without a mem card reader? Can the map be downloaded via the phone using wifi?

Posted by: fldude99

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntonisCy

so this cant be done without a mem card reader? Can the map be downloaded via the phone using wifi?

No as far as i know

Posted by: daraj

You guys have to run the Maps once so that the program will create the necessary folders then close it. Then connect your phone to the cable selecting MASS STORAGE after that it should start fine.

Posted by: pfreitas

Holy Mother the new uploader is FAST!!!

...Yeah, I know...a little late but it's the first time i've tried it.

edit: In fact, I downloaded VA, MD, DE, and RI in under 5 minutes...

That would have taken 24 hours on the last go around.

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by fldude99

So is the consensus that the maps themselves are improved and different..and not just the maploader program?

Yes. In fact when I updated my firmware it started even showing buildings in NYC, but it wasn't stable. So i deleted all maps and redownloaded. Now I don't have buildings but the app is stable. I think they keep changing those maps.

Posted by: sr1329

Quote:

Originally Posted by wilson_sony

Hi, I have update the map to v1.1 wk23 for my Nokia n95, but when loading the map it doen't auto zoom to your location like the original version, and also missing some other usefull features and functions as below:
1.) When starting map no auto zoom -- you have to press * to zoom in ?
2.) on standby map or navigation -- to view 3D you have to press "option" and go to "map option" to change instead of easy short cut "0" on the key pad
3.) Missing Tracking when you finish plan the road

If the feature is there or any one know please kindly let me know !
Also I would like to revert back to original version , if possible?

Thanks

The new firmware has: v3.0 wk23 b01

This one auto zooms. Restores "0" for 3D. Has tracking.

Posted by: wilson_sony

Quote:

Originally Posted by sr1329

The new firmware has: v3.0 wk23 b01

This one auto zooms. Restores "0" for 3D. Has tracking.

I'm confuse??! everyone said this one (v1.1 wk23 b04) is the latest update from that (v3.0 wk23..) is that right?

Also My N95 firmware is the latest: v11.0.026,
so if I reinstall this firmware again will it revert back to the map (v3.0 wk23 b01 ) ?
Will I lost any other pre-install applications (e.g Chinese dictionary)

Thanks