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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
Alright, with the lack of new phones for me to play with i had developed the urge to do another mod... i did my k790a poopoo brown from a k800i a while back and decided to try to convert the k810 to a k790a housing to create a k810a...
i wasn't sure if this was going to work... conceptually it should... but when i cracked open both housings there were quite a few signifigant changes...mostly triming of the plastic frame inside of the phone... the lcd plastic is thinner, the internal casing has little pieces chopped off here and there to help slim it down.... i had to strip the phone to it's bare bones to get the housing swap to work... was going to take pics but got too worked up in the process...anyway... covered up the camera hole with some plastic put it all together and below are some pics... everything works as it should enjoy....next up... time to find an ivory k810i... |
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Originally Posted by Known_Logik
If you ever think about selling it I will so buy it from you.
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Originally Posted by AlvinYang
wow ur amazing =D
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great job! it looks stock!
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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
guys.... YOU CAN'T BUY THE k810i housing... you would need the actual phone to do the swap...cause the inside has been changed.....so please no more where did you buy the housing pm's k? thanks
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Originally Posted by AlvinYang
i dunt think tats gonna work if the noobs didn't read the thread the first time i doubt they'll even get to this post...ppl just look at pics and ask...u shoudl pm them the link bak to the thread =D
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Originally Posted by Incubu
mad props shaolinmonk , sexiest phone i think ive ever seen , i wanna do it but i dont have any extra cash. i mainly just want the keypad , i can get the keypads but i cant get the housing
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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
guys.... YOU CAN'T BUY THE k810i housing... you would need the actual phone to do the swap...cause the inside has been changed.....so please no more where did you buy the housing pm's k? thanks
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j/k
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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
can you get the pcb board?
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Originally Posted by Kricket
wait...i dont get it - so........where did you get the housing?
lol - j/k |
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Originally Posted by Incubu
PCB board? Print Circuit Board? Not right now but i think soon , ive found parts of the housing but not the whole one yet.
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Originally Posted by Incubu
ohhhhhhh check cnn.cn
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Originally Posted by Incubu
ohhhhhhh check cnn.cn
Off subject: Any idea why my w850a prototype would be flashing and vibrating about 2 minutes after i turn it on? I think its a firmware issue |
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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
lol true true..oh well... i'll just start telling them i'm selling housings for $250 each
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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
By shaolinmonk, shot with K810a. at 1969-12-31 I have the whole family now to keep my k810a company... the silver was hand sanded like the guy did from the other thread... looks wicked has a rugged brushed look.. |
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Originally Posted by prateeko
Well that was a random last post (akadeki).
I may be missing something here, but if you need new housing and a new PCB board, isn't that most of the phone anyway? |
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Originally Posted by fryrice8850
is that a silver k790? or just a change in the housing? cuz im thinking of buying a silver housing on ebay
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Originally Posted by hybrid.09
I guess I wouldn't go through all the trouble just for 850. But If you're an 850 maniac I guess you would.
Toronto get more 1900 towers please |
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Originally Posted by prateeko
So housing, PCB, buttons and some shaving.
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Originally Posted by azn_boi_128
That's Hot! wish i had time + guts to do that i have a K790a just sitting here lol
Demanding a How to! lol |
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Originally Posted by yhap2003
Keep in mind that you cannot upgrade firmware from k790a to k810. I tried it and I screwed up my phone
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Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
why on earth would you want to do that? the idea is to get the 850 frequency.. not to lose it
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Originally Posted by FALCO
Nothing has to be modified to fit in the housing. The only trimming required is on the lanyard bottom part of the K810/K790. On the K790a the little hook is on the board and on the K810 it is on the casing. So you will end up having two. I removed both of mine. It looks better.
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Originally Posted by FALCO
Nothing has to be modified to fit in the housing. The only trimming required is on the lanyard bottom part of the K810/K790. On the K790a the little hook is on the board and on the K810 it is on the casing. So you will end up having two. I removed both of mine. It looks better.
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Originally Posted by Jo11e
So you have the k810 display with the k790 motherborard? Wouldn't the k790 fit in the housing? I will have my fathers old k800 soon and im thinking about buying a k810 housing for it (when they become available).
From what i understand i will have to buy: *housing with buttons and souch *keyboard PCB and then modd the k800 display to fit? |
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Originally Posted by FALCO
The displays are the same size. Pretty much both boards are identical, except for few differences here and there but we are talking about 1-2 millimeters difference. not enough to make an impact or cause the board not to fit in the housing.
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Originally Posted by Spawnp800
does the k810 camera/back cover fit on the k790/800 housing? if so that's what I'll get when the parts are available... I don't need the front, but the back would be really nice to have.
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Originally Posted by vti1
does that know someone?
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Originally Posted by RLP06
dyslexia?
if you're asking if someone knows that... as far as i know, you can only get the housing for a K810 off a K810 handset, you cannot buy it seperately |
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Originally Posted by Valgar
You also need the middle plate(black piece of pastic inside the phone that the different phone components attach to.) , or you will have the heavily modify the k800i middle plate.
I have not seen this available anywhere. with the cost and headache, its about 60$ + for all the parts right now (minus the middle plate) and the housings you get wont be OEM so its a crap shoot for quality. I would ether A) abandon this plan and just buy a k850 when it comes out or B) buy a k810i swap it, sell the one you dont need. the price difference is not less then $50 depending where you shop. |
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Originally Posted by Valgar
unless you modify the k800i middle piece, which entails cutting/shaving the plastics quite a bit. Also this type of plastic is not easy to cut and shape
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Originally Posted by Spawnp800
Just for fun... look at what I found
http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/sonyer...tons-p-858.html Yes, it's a k810 housing, complete, with all buttons, front and back...the PCB is there for $16 too... have ate it |
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Originally Posted by Ender17
anyone buy this?
thinking of trying it wish someone could post a guide, I've never modded anything before |
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Originally Posted by Valgar
They don't sell the middle piece that is needed for the swap...
It will be quite a task to make the k800i middle piece fit, I tried and failed... so good luck with that =p |
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you can purchase a mat here http://cnn.cn/shop/sonyericsson-w81...nlay-p-899.html which will bring the total to $6 and I'll throw in the tools you need to do your swap. In regards to the swap, it's not that bad. It's actually easier to work on the K810i then on the K800i. I did the swap for my friend and he loves it. A few things to note though For the earpiece, there is supposed to be a gasket there. Before I put it in, the speaker volume was very low and my friend couldn't talk on the phone on the street. The mat you are purchasing can actually be useful for this. I cut out the shape of the gasket and fit it in that spot and it helped tremendously. If you have Paypal, you can send us the $5.00 for the two midplates. If not, make a purchase for a foam seal plus shipping, and we can give you the foam to cut the gasket, the two midplates and a T6 and case tool to work on your phone. Let us know if this is OK with you. Steve Chan |
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About the foam inlay, it is not to be used on the K810 as it already has one pre-installed, but it is used for you to cut out a gasket for the ear speaker and the camera. |
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Originally Posted by driftmania
So how much did it cost all together?
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Second half is the brand spanking new K810 housing on a K790 hardware and firmware. One of a kind lol.. Im thinking of selling this phone soon since the K850 is catchin my eyes, if anyone interested, let me know!
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Originally Posted by anabioz
Umm... that's bs. K790 does have 900 but K790i.
So you just have to flash your phone to the stock firmware and you will have 900mhz. Wow man. lol. Remember, all sony ericssons are quad band! |
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Originally Posted by USAF_ICE
Ok guys, i did it, but it WASN"T easy definitely. It require a lot of patient and attention to detail. Everything i must say quality wise is top notch, but fitment wise is about 95%.
Even tho the K810 midplate is included, you still need to cut a few pieces off, tiny little piece that could make a whole lot different. Cnn.cn package DID NOT include A & B game buttons, those two buttons that are on the screen, near the ear piece. Missing the cover for the Infared port. There is no foam seal lay around the LCD screen inside, but that can be an easy fix using the old K790 foam lay. Some other stuff can be taken off the old K790 case to improvise. UNFORTUNENATELY, in the middle of the swap, my friend took his K750 back so i have no pictures from half of the swap till the end. I do have pics of the K790 being dissambly, but not sure it will help if any... I'll update with new pictures. So far im loving the soft feeling of the rubber back, and especially the keypad buttons!! Its super beautiful now!! |
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Originally Posted by qwertb
what did you do about the A & B game buttons? do the k790 ones fit and work in the k810 case? same question with the infrared port. can you specify which parts you had to modify and cut/trim to make the switch from k790 to k810? i would like to try this mod too. thanks for helping us out with the guide.
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Originally Posted by USAF_ICE
I used the old A & B buttons from the K790. It fits but you have to trim down the rubber part because its too long for K810 housing, trim a little bit off.
I cannot specify that exact parts i have to trim in order to make it fit, but you will know which part since its wont close properly at the end. Its the process of trial-and-error my friend. Good luck. |
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Originally Posted by qwertb
what did you do about the infrared port? and aren't the actual A & B game buttons of the k790 smaller then the k810's? did it leave gaps when you put them in and is it noticeable?
thanks for all the help and i really appreciate the pictures! |
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Originally Posted by SnooPPP
I've actually got some good news for you fellow modders.
I just contacted CNN.CN about ordering the k810 parts and they informed me that they should have a video showing how to convert the k790a to k810 in their video section up soon |
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Originally Posted by USAF_ICE
lol, trust me i went thru this process last week and it wasnt easy, or short. I have to modified a lot because the back plate didnt completely close to the front housing.
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Originally Posted by qwertb
did you have to flash your k790a to the k810i firmware? or does the camera icons on the side of the keypad just light up along with all of the numbers?
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Originally Posted by phattbam
so as someone else asked.. did you have to flash it to th k810i to get the camera options to light up? please let me know since I am the buyer of it. hahaha
PS: is there any software differences for the k790a or k810i?? |
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Originally Posted by USAF_ICE
no, the firmware is still k790 not k810. Camera functions still light up on the keypad as normal. You will like it once you see it!
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Originally Posted by SnooPPP
I just got my K810 parts. I went for the golden ivory housing. Looks a little different than everything else out there.
CNN.cn did provide me with the game A & B buttons. Also the infrared cover is already integrated into the housing. So...it looks like I have everything I need. I'm going to wait a few more days hoping that CNN.cn will post their tutorial video on the conversion, but if it takes longer than that, I'll just go to work and me and my friends will figure it out. |
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Originally Posted by qwertb
did you have to flash your k790a to the k810i firmware? or does the camera icons on the side of the keypad just light up along with all of the numbers?
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Originally Posted by SnooPPP
Ok so we got the phone apart and all the k810 pieces are all together. When we get down to actually putting it into the new housing...it just wont fit!!!
I need some help figuring out what I'm supposed to cut or improvise on to make the housing fit. Did you cut a piece off the middle plate or the housing or what? USAF_ICE or whoever else has done this, please reply asap!! My phone is inoperable at my work in a million pieces right now =( |
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Originally Posted by qwertb
Thank BlueCalx for the pics!
So its only the middle plate that needs cutting right? |
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Originally Posted by BlueCalx
You're welcome.. I just wish I had thought to take some side by side pics of the boards.
In that pic of mine, if you look just above and below the sim slot, you'll see some tabs that are present on one plate and absent on the other. I'm sure those will need to go. Also, look at the strap tab at the bottom near the charging port. I think the k810 has a loop and the k790 has an internal post. I think some modification will need to be made there - but I'm not sure. |
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Originally Posted by SnooPPP
What I don't get is, if I'm using a k810 midplate anyways, why does there need to be so much modification. I went ahead and chopped some pieces off and I'm going to attempt to try again with the k810 conversion tomorrow.
Thanks for the pics BlueCalx |
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Originally Posted by anabioz
YES! the "a" is just a lock on band. You can flash the k790a into a K790i and have 900mhz. THIS IS SONY! CMON!
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Originally Posted by anabioz
It is supposed to be possible. As all sony phones are quadband.
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Originally Posted by BlueCalx
Not all sony phones are quadband... That's bunk.
You can't 'unlock' or 'switch' bands that I'm aware of. Especially on a K790 -> K800 and vice versa. The bands are built into the hardware I believe. The whole point of this thread is to show that people can effectively get a k810 with 850 and edge - but only by installing the guts of a k790a into the k810 housing. If you could just flash the phone with the capability of 850mhz, etc. - then why would you need to swap the housings? |
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Originally Posted by mdwsta4
totally off topic from this post, but... huh? you can unlock or switch bands on SE phones? what about triband phones that don't come with 850 band? or are you just saying that 850 band phones can be switched to 900?
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Originally Posted by Fire Dragan 418
finally received the housing kit
this is DIFFICULT to install you need to: (middle plate) cut the tabs on battery compartment (on the edge of labels) (back housing) cut the plastic at the lanyard position (keypad) must use K810 keypad, or joystick won't work |
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Originally Posted by se_fanatic
have you completed the swap?!
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Originally Posted by vincentobrien
I've been lurking for awhile and watching this and I have a question. Can the backplates with the camera covers of the 790 and the 810 be swapped easily? Are they the same shape and size with the same tabs to attach? I read through the entire thread and I haven't seen good pictures to compare the two. I'd like to get the 810's camera cover but keep the rest of the 790 intact. Just wanted to know if that's possible.
This is a really great looking swap otherwise. Once I get my backup phones working again (what good is a backup that can't back you up? lol) I may try this out. |
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Originally Posted by vincentobrien
I've been lurking for awhile and watching this and I have a question. Can the backplates with the camera covers of the 790 and the 810 be swapped easily? Are they the same shape and size with the same tabs to attach? I read through the entire thread and I haven't seen good pictures to compare the two. I'd like to get the 810's camera cover but keep the rest of the 790 intact. Just wanted to know if that's possible.
This is a really great looking swap otherwise. Once I get my backup phones working again (what good is a backup that can't back you up? lol) I may try this out. |
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Originally Posted by iori_daddy
I wanted the same thing, keeping the front of the K790 but changing the backplate only. I don't think it's possible and I'm not sure if anyone's done it - the dimensions are different.
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Originally Posted by Fire Dragan 418
not at all
the back housing of K790/800 is easily removable; on K810, this is totally different story my mod is halted because I need to change the parts ENTIRELY (including the keypad assembly), except the motherboard, LCD (without frame), cam assembly it's good cnn.cn has essential parts for installing K790/800 on K810 housing, along with K810 housing, color of your choice, total $70 (earpiece is optional if you know how to remove from original housing) I am waiting for the "essential parts", and the modification will be done, as well as my "K790a" will become ivory instead of black |
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Originally Posted by iori_daddy
So it's quite possible to change only the back housing of a K790/K800 with the back housing of a K810, while keeping everything else on the K790/K800? Thats great news - I always thought it couldn't be done because of the dimensions.
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Originally Posted by BlueCalx
I've already explained that this isn't possible and why.
Read my post above (post 179). |
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Originally Posted by iori_daddy
Ya I agree with you...that's what I always thought too...
I just wanted to confirm what Fire Dragan said...or maybe there's some misunderstanding |
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Originally Posted by manchuia
when are you guys/gals going to start offering his as a service to those of us with weaker stomachs.
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I'd much rather disassemble and swap parts than fiddle with firmware. |
Originally Posted by BlueCalx
I'll do anything you want with a phone's hardware..
I'd much rather disassemble and swap parts than fiddle with firmware. So if you or anyone wants something like this (or exactly this) done, PM me. I'd be happy to help out... |
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Originally Posted by Fire Dragan 418
I may offer it if I done mine successfully
just worry may end up like Chippery9 |
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Originally Posted by cleric808
So earlier i posted a thread about my conversion. Everything went fine, but now when i tried using my jawbone headset the range was shot. when the phone is below my waist it just cuts off. Man, too good to be true. Oh well, i sacrificed function for looks. I'm probably thinking of either flashing the firmware over, or maybe seeling. oh well...
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Originally Posted by cleric808
So earlier i posted a thread about my conversion. Everything went fine, but now when i tried using my jawbone headset the range was shot. when the phone is below my waist it just cuts off. Man, too good to be true. Oh well, i sacrificed function for looks. I'm probably thinking of either flashing the firmware over, or maybe seeling. oh well...
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