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Posted by: Becks7

is this color in Canada yet?



Posted by: Shaun_FreSh

i dunno, but dayam, those shoes look hype!



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Don't you guys know never to buy shoes based on fashion? They might be the wrong shoes for your feet. And besides they cost $120 USD. The Shox are a cushioned shoe typically suited for those with high arches. Give me your stats and biomechanics and I'll recommend a suitable shoe. You don't have to pay alot for that muffler!



Posted by: Shaun_FreSh

Baby jingles is like the next generation shoe salesperson.



Posted by: Baby Jingles

I just don't want to see you throw away $120 shoes for a fashiopn statement, although from the # of phones, cars, etc...you guys have, I guess you have the money to throw away.
What does one do for a living to own so many phones and own a 2000 BMW?



Posted by: Becks7

I bought those shoes based on fashion, i don't wear them for anything else except maybe casual shoot around during lunch at school.

I'm 160 lbs
5'10 ish
as for if I over/under pronate I am unsure. What are the signs of wear on my shoes that I look for?

And i got them as a present... at 180 CDN



Posted by: ymlccc

available in selected footlocker, I saw them in downtown MTL...



Posted by: Becks7

i shouldn't have said that i bought them in the 1st sentence...the story was I was "going" to buy them, but my aunt got them for me at 30% off and paid, and wouldn't let me pay her back.



Posted by: tuffdog

Quote:
Originally posted by Becks7
is this color in Canada yet?


I saw them at the Nike store in Richmond Centre..



Posted by: Baby Jingles

What a waste of money. Okay here';s what you do.
Take the wet test, dip your naked foot on a newspaper and tell me the print, does your arches flat, normal, or high?

If you have high rigid arches, you would do well in these cushioned shox. They provide support for your rigid arches. Typically, high arch people are under pronators. Shoes from nike for this type are the Shox, Air Pegasus, Air Max tailwind, Air International Max. SHox would do best for the heavy runner. You could get away with the much cheaper Pegasus which comes in a trail and road version. Much cheaper also.

People with normal arches typically do best in stability shoes. Sometimes they might over pronate which they would need a motion control shoes. But often times stability shoes provide some degree of motion control. A stability shoe for copmpany like Nike is Air Structure triax, Air Span triax, Air Max Moto and for the heavy guys, The Kantara which are super stable and cushioned.

People with flat feet, or no arch, typically over pronate and do best in motion control shoes. Most Motion control shoes have flat arches and provide severe motion control. Nike's version is the Durham which is very durable for big guys. Typically, the Motion control shoes are the most durable on the market. They put a whole lot more into these shoes and they weigh more. Even big guys who don't need motion control shoes could get away with wearing them for their durability. However, if your a big guy with high arches, you'd opt for more like the Shox.

Polyurethane is the most durable substance youc an get in your shoes but costs more. EVA is typically what most shoes have and less durable. For example my New balance 1700's have a full polyurethane rim which makes it much more durable. Finely grain leather also and this shoe privdies very good cushioning and stability for heavy runner:





Posted by: Baby Jingles

Determining your foot type will ensure that you buy the right shoes. Your feet will fit into one of three general categories, and your wet footprint will reveal which one.

A NORMAL
B FLAT
C HIGH-ARCHED





Posted by: Becks7

i am neutral...i've done that test before but un-wittingly, like in the summer after washing the car etc.

But once again...why are they a waste of money??? They serve the purpose that i was looking for, and that was a comfy shoe for casual wear.

Which category does the Air Max Fantaposite fall under?

I admire your footwear expertise...my domain are soccer boots



Posted by: Baby Jingles

By neutral do you mean normal arch? If so, I bet these Shox will start to irratate your arches after too long. See for yourself. View your arches, then look in the shoe and view the height of the arches on the insole. All that support under your arch which flexes will cause irration. The reason somebody with high arches need it is because their arches are rigid and if they were to stretch (having no support) eventually they will tear the fascia away from their heel and cause a bone spur, this is known as Plantar Fascitis. Your feet will flex but all that beefed up support will cause irratiation its like trying to jump in a hole thats covered up. And for high arched people its like trying not to jump in a hole thats not covered up! It'll hurt right?

The Air Max Fantaposite is a cross trainer shoe. $150 USD cross training shoe at that. Your paying for the Imported Foamposite.
This is the most technically advanced cross training shoe available made up of Foamposite, Performance plate and Max Air technology. The upper is fully integrated Foamposite constructed, 3/4- length inner sleeve combined with dual pull fit system for a customized fit, a full-length TPU midsole plate technology, blow molded heel and forefoot Zoom Air units provide the ultimate in cushioning in protection and responsiveness and a low-profile, solid rubber outsole.






Posted by: WLJ101

Quote:
Originally posted by Becks7
is this color in Canada yet?



whree did you buy this shoes? from HK?



Posted by: Baby Jingles

I don't buy shoes like that. They look like spaceships. If you want coolness but in a shoe that does what it supposed to do yet inexpensive, try these two from Avia cost $50-60 USD






Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by WDR101



whree did you buy this shoes? from HK?

yah



i just looked at the insoles, and there really isn't that much support under the arch, the insole does have a larger part that rides up the side of the foot by the arch, but it is really quite thin.

Do you work at a sports store? Or are you just really fascinated by athletic shoes?



Posted by: Shaun_FreSh

remember baby jingles, we are teens. We like Shox and that shyte. LOL! Avia and that "N" brand (new balance?) aren't the <hip> thing in our age group, lol. I remember wearing avia shoes once to school, and I got mocked alot, lol...



Posted by: Baby Jingles

I dont work for any sports tore I just love shoes and helping peopke find the right shoe. The insole rides up high on the side where the arch goes right? Thats the arch support I'm talking about. Other shoes with lower or flat arches wont ride up like that. But the shoe is a cushiond shoe and those Shox act like spring boards for shock absorption.

One day you guys will learn and look back how stupid fitting in is all about. Absoeltuely rediculous to pay alot juist to fit in and be cool. I was guilty of this also. If people dont like you for who you are then they can go to hell. Be yourself, dont confortm just to fit in and be liked. And since when is over age 20 still a teen?



Posted by: Becks7

i honestly didn't know that the XT's were for high arched peeps, proper shoe selection isn't really emphasized at shoe stores.



Posted by: Shaun_FreSh

when I said "WE", i meant becks7 and I. Yea, i understand that comfort should always come before looks, but looks also plays a big role. Some people have different preferences. It's like cars. So people like performance, some people like appearance.

Like for instance, if there were shoes that made you feel like you were walking on a cloud, but were puke green in colour, had brown and pink stripes all over them, and had those "grand-daddy" velcro straps instead of laces, I would never consider them....

would you??



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by Shaun_FreSh


Like for instance, if there were shoes that made you feel like you were walking on a cloud, but were puke green in colour, had brown and pink stripes all over them, and had those "grand-daddy" velcro straps instead of laces, I would never consider them....

would you??


YES...i have a pair of ugly puke green velcro shoes



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Well car its different like BMW, thats style and performance in one car. But shoes is different. Nike is big on fashion and you pay for it also. You'd do just as well in Pegasus which is $40-50 cheaper then Shox. But if your a big runner who need extra support and cushion then Shox is good.

man, those are some cool looking Green golf shoes? Or bowling?

Hey Shaun, so whats your height, weight, running build like arches? And Beck, if your arches are normal, then you'd do good say in Nike Air Structure triax, Air Span triax or Air Max Moto. Those are all $85 dollar stability shoes by Nike. if your heavier then the Kantara would be best bet.



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by Baby Jingles


man, those are some cool looking Green golf shoes? Or bowling?

Hey Shaun, so whats your height, weight, running build like arches? And Beck, if your arches are normal, then you'd do good say in Nike Air Structure triax, Air Span triax or Air Max Moto. Those are all $85 dollar stability shoes by Nike. if your heavier then the Kantara would be best bet.


Those green Diesel shoes are just pure casual shoes lol...

I am not a serious runner, i have a pair of running shoes that i use right now... Fila Rejuvenate that I bought for sale...another pair of shoes i bought not considering foot type.



Posted by: Becks7

oh these are what my Fila's look like...

P.S. YES WE NEED A SHOE FORUM hehehe



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Hey imagine that you actually got a good shoe for your feet. These Fila are comparable to Asics GT-2040's and Nike Air Structure triax. If your in Europe a company worth checking out is Diadora and their Mythos line of running shoes, excellent!
Shoe forum, shoe forum!



Posted by: Becks7

Diadora always made good soccer boots, but it's true in NA there isn't much Diadora.



Posted by: Baby Jingles

What is NA? Why dont we create a running forum together? I dont know how to do all that forum code though.



Posted by: skaquix

hey baby jingles

omg how do u know so much about shoes!? polyureathane rims and foamposite and all the specs of each shoe...i hate to ask but do u have some sorta shoe fetish!?!?

but u do have one very valid point...buying a shoe because it 'looks' cool or is the 'hip' brand is complete BS. your feet are extremely important, as the type of shoe can affect your posture, and your back! and you don't wanna have back problems...

it's too bad that dress shoes, and casual dress shoes are always so poorly designed. my feet hurt so bad after wearing those kinda shoes...and unfortunately i have to wear them almost every day. i know rockport makes some decent casual dress shoes, but what about formal dress shoes???? any suggestions?



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
What is NA? Why dont we create a running forum together? I dont know how to do all that forum code though.


NA=North America

Quote:
it's too bad that dress shoes, and casual dress shoes are always so poorly designed. my feet hurt so bad after wearing those kinda shoes...and unfortunately i have to wear them almost every day. i know rockport makes some decent casual dress shoes, but what about formal dress shoes???? any suggestions?


If you have trouble with your shoes maybe you should look into seeing somebody who specializes in feet/posture, i don't want to say the name that i am thinking in my head cuz i'm not sure it's right. They can probably make you a custom insole that will solve your problems. When you change shoes, just take out the insole. However they are a bit steep i think



Posted by: Shaun_FreSh

Jingles:

I'm 5'10, 175lbs. What do you mean by my arch build?



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by Shaun_FreSh
Jingles:

I'm 5'10, 175lbs. What do you mean by my arch build?


ur arch build is just like how ur arch's are naturally. Just take ur barefoot, wet it, and place it on news paper. There are 3 pics on the 1st page of this thread, and see how ur foot matches up.



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Shaun, listen to Becks, he learning quickly. Your tall, but don't weigh all that much, you could get away with a medium range shoe unless you have the money and want to pay more. Let us know which Arch you fit and I'll recommend a few shoes. Any particular company you prefer?

Sasqautch, as for dress shoes, I am very sure there are probably companies out there that cater to healthy feet. But very difficult as in the business world, fashion and looks is always more important then comfort. Rockport is one of the best in the business and they do make dress shoes as well, go to their website and have a look at their line of shoes. Another company you could check out is damm, I cant remember what the name is.
I just rememberd, Doc Martins. In Fact there is Doc Martin, Rockport, Ecco, Dexter, etc...

Just click http://www.onlineshoes.com/
And on first page click Mens By Style, Dress shoes and you will have them all for you.

I am the man!



Posted by: Becks7

just a question Baby Jingles...what are you doing on a cell phone based forum if you don't have a cell phone...or do you just go from forum to forum preaching the good word about shoes



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Well Brother Beck I joined this forum to try and see the light and buy a phone. You can read about my troubles in the Cingular section of this forum.

As for where I talk shoes:
http://rwforums.rodale.com/

But I couldn't help spreading the good word about shoes to this forum.



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by Baby Jingles

As for where I talk shoes:
http://rwforums.rodale.com/



although the site is runner based, do any of the peeps there offer tips on like weight lifting etc?



Posted by: Becks7

http://rwforums.rodale.com/viewMess...d=27999&forum=3

this is what some guy posted :

Are Nike a serious brand?

Seems to me they're becoming more of a sports promotion company now and that Shox are made as a fashion statement rather than for the serious runner - after all, are zips really needed? How much do they weigh?
I guess if my name was Michael Johnson they could make me a fine pair of gold spikes, but as I am not are they worth patronising?





Posted by: Baby Jingles

I remember that particular post, i do agree, Nike is worried more about Fashion then performance, but they do however boast some pretty awesome technology in some pretty good shoes, now if they would just tone them down to normal looking so they earn nmore respect from runners like Asics does.

Weightlifting you say? Why of course, there is a Guru on Runners World forum in the training, injury section, his name is Baby Jingles, check out his posts, or simply post your question and I'm sure he'll respond



Posted by: skaquix

yeah i have a pair of rockport hiking shoes...they are SOO comfy
i've tried on some ecco stuff but it doesn't feel right to me...kinda hard to explain.

lol doc martin? i had a few pair of DM boots back in high school. Great boots...altho hurt like hell to break them in (blisters etc.) i finally settled on a pair of steel toe CAT boots. damn those things have lasted me forever...

dexter?? hahah they make my bowling shoes =) i didn't know they make anything else

right now i'm wearing stone ridge (don't know if u know stone ridge or not...) casual dress shoes, and ...i can't remember the brand of my formal dress shoes.. i like the stone ridge shoes more for their style...comfort wise they are OK. but they offer little to no support...



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Well just check out the dress section of http://www.onlineshoes.com/
You can get good quality dress shoes for your feet. If you need extra, put in an after market insole. Becks was referring to a Poditrist to make custom orthotic but unless you have serious foot problems u dont need to spend for this.



Posted by: Shaun_FreSh

okie, i did the test, and I would say I have normal arches.

so..

I'm 5'10
175lbs
Normal Arch

jingles, advise me, lol...I dont mind bustin cash on expensive shoes. If they look and feel right, i'll take em!



Posted by: Baby Jingles

Well you can get away with any stability shoe on the market. It really depends on your preference for flavor and which feels the best on your foot. My advise, find a running specialty store in your area, some place that carries shoes for performance not fashion, then ask them to bring outone shoe from each company to try on to see which you like the best. I usually always order full size up, my feet are 12" so I order 13's. Sometimes you may have to go 12.5 if 13 is too big. I also wear thin socks made of coolmax. Coolmax is the best material out there.

Some sample shoes for your build:
Nike - Air Structure Triax, Air Max Moto
New Balance - 763 or 764 (whichever model they carry), 991
Brooks: Adrenaline GTS
Mizuno: Alchemy or Mercury
Asics: GT-2070 (#1 selling shoe in world)
Saucony: 3D Grid Hurricane, Grid Shadow

Those are each companies moderately priced Stability shoes for your build, all cost around $80 USD. I think if you were able to try all of those shoes on, one of them will fit your feet like a glove, good luck.



Posted by: GKx

Quote:
Originally posted by Becks7
I bought those shoes based on fashion


I don't know what planet you base your fashions on, but on planet earth those shoes are a little iffy...



Posted by: Baby Jingles

You can wear the Shox, all I'm saying is you may irritate your arches. But go ahead and gamble. If your current shoe looks like this then you mayhave yourself a good shoe, is it the Converge Max Plus? This shoe has Polyurethane midsole which is very durable. But sure, let me know when you want buy new shoes. Whats your height/weight?




Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by GKx


I don't know what planet you base your fashions on, but on planet earth those shoes are a little iffy...



actually i've gotten sum major looks even frum the guys



Posted by: GKx

Quote:
Originally posted by Becks7



actually i've gotten sum major looks even frum the guys


LOL... And that dosen't concern you at all?



Posted by: blu_monkey

not shox related, but a funny story...

one day i was walking to my gf's class with my new jordan 11 retros (i got to the mall at 5:30 am and there was a line of like 80 ppl!) but anyways, i was walking and this big dude walks up to me and says, "you're lucky you got small feet otherwise those'd be mine. hehhehheh" i hope he was joking

shox vc's are coming out soon...



Posted by: blu_monkey

start savin up...



Posted by: apaman

best shoes I ever owned nd still own are my clarck collection, man are they comftorble, the desert trek, wallabee's boot, and the other original my fav shoes ever go check them out @
http://www.rakuten.co.jp/z-craft/435923/



Posted by: Becks7

those VC's are AWESOME! I imagine that they could increase your vert now, cuz they have shox in the fore foot, and not the heel.



Posted by: blu_monkey

sorry, i think shox columns are just for cushioning. hops are all on you!



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by blu_monkey
sorry, i think shox columns are just for cushioning. hops are all on you!


the shox are compressable and they have "some" rebound to them. So they should do something... (i think lol)



Posted by: blu_monkey

actually, you may be right. i think that the compressable nature of the columns kinda propels your foot forward after impact. i doubt that vince needs anymore ups, though...

were you as dissapointed as i was when the shox didn't make that boing boing sound after you put em on?



Posted by: Becks7

Quote:
Originally posted by blu_monkey
actually, you may be right. i think that the compressable nature of the columns kinda propels your foot forward after impact. i doubt that vince needs anymore ups, though...

were you as dissapointed as i was when the shox didn't make that boing boing sound after you put em on?


i was actually quite glad they DIDN'T make that annoying boing sound





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