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T610 vs. SX1

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Posted by: justin_d12

Which one is best?



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by justin_d12
Which one is best?


You cannot even start to begin comparing a smart fone to another mobile. Hands down the SX1. It out classes and will out perform the T610 in every manner. I am more than confident every Siemens user will agree to this. Maybe read the threads on the SX1 and you too will see that if offers much much more than the T610.



Posted by: hardtarget35

Like I said on the other thread, you can't compare these two phones!!! One is a "smartphone" and the other is a normal beefed up phone!!! SX1 is awesome feature wise, and definitly has the edge over the T610 feature wise, but i hate smartphones (see Orange SPV forum ) so my vote goes out to the T610 as the best "normal" phone anywayz, hehe





Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
Like I said on the other thread, you can't compare these two phones!!! One is a "smartphone" and the other is a normal beefed up phone!!! SX1 is awesome feature wise, and definitly has the edge over the T610 feature wise, but i hate smartphones (see Orange SPV forum ) so my vote goes out to the T610 as the best "normal" phone anywayz, hehe




:rolleyes2 The Orange SPV does not even enter the same class as the SX1. Smartfones they are but to be blunt the SPV sucks!! The SX1 will be the best smartfone on the market when it comes out hands down... anyone who will have used one will agree...
Not to mention Symbian OS compared to what Micrsoft with the SPV. Even Nokias wanna be smart fone doesn't even come close to the SX1... there are so many probs with that fone... including the design... even with the MMC slot... it lives beneath the battery how inconvenient it that? But all in all back to the T610... I have 3 words for it... "What A Joke"



Posted by: hardtarget35

T610 is gonna kick some serious azz, fo sho! I didnt mind the SX1 at first, but i thought about it and i would rather have a PPC/Palm instead of a smartphone which cant do certain things PDA's can. Plus, the designs of smartphones are repulsive if you ask me. Especially that hideous 3650...makes me wonder what nokia engineers were smoking when they desinged that POS. At least SX1 looks decent, except for the side buttons that is (I would never get used to that, but thats me). We can get into "your phone sucks" and "my phone is gonna beat this and that in every way" battle if you want, but its gonna last a long time, thats fo sho! Lets just keep our "childish" comments to ourselves...Cheers!

My opinionz



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
T610 is gonna kick some serious azz, fo sho! I didnt mind the SX1 at first, but i thought about it and i would rather have a PPC/Palm instead of a smartphone which cant do certain things PDA's can. Plus, the designs of smartphones are repulsive if you ask me. Especially that hideous 3650...makes me wonder what nokia engineers were smoking when they desinged that POS. At least SX1 looks decent, except for the side buttons that is (I would never get used to that, but thats me). We can get into "your phone sucks" and "my phone is gonna beat this and that in every way" battle if you want, but its gonna last a long time, thats fo sho! Lets just keep our "childish" comments to ourselves...Cheers!

My opinionz


You are missing the point... between T610 and SX1... hands down the superior fone is the SX1 not T610.. you can battle it all you want the facts are as they are... whether on paper or in actual performance the T610 has nothing on the SX1 and that's that



Posted by: hardtarget35

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Originally posted by Synncere
You are missing the point... between T610 and SX1... hands down the superior fone is the SX1 not T610.. you can battle it all you want the facts are as they are... whether on paper or in actual performance the T610 has nothing on the SX1 and that's that


Yea, thats obvious. The SX1 has way more features than the T610, but like you and I said...two different classes of phone, you cant compare! SX1 will be the best smartphone, no doubt...but for me personnaly, I prefer fancy "non-smartphones", and the T610 is going to do it for me for a more "normal" (I know its not exactly normal ) phone, rather than a smartphone. mmmmk?

T610 is highly anticipated if you didnt know, just look around And a phone is nothing without popularity from cell users, so the popularity of the T610 is already prooving it has a chance to be very succesfull.




Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
Yea, thats obvious. The SX1 has way more features than the T610, but like you and I said...two different classes of phone, you cant compare! SX1 will be the best smartphone, no doubt...but for me personnaly, I prefer fancy "non-smartphones", and the T610 is going to do it for me for a more "normal" (I know its not exactly normal ) phone, rather than a smartphone. mmmmk?

T610 is highly anticipated if you didnt know, just look around And a phone is nothing without popularity from cell users, so the popularity of the T610 is already prooving it has a chance to be very succesfull.


Popularity doesn't make the fone... the hype and features can move units... and I won't deny there is much hype on the T610 but if you do research you will find out there's more hype then reliability... the fone itself has already been known to have issues. SE did the same thing with the T68i... I can see it now... all users complaing after f/w upgrade after f/w uograde and so on. People can buy all they want... it'll just be a plus for Siemens and other manufacturers aswell... can you say the word "Switch"



Posted by: hardtarget35

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Originally posted by Synncere
Popularity doesn't make the fone... the hype and features can move units... and I won't deny there is much hype on the T610 but if you do research you will find out there's more hype then reliability... the fone itself has already been known to have issues. SE did the same thing with the T68i... I can see it now... all users complaing after f/w upgrade after f/w uograde and so on. People can buy all they want... it'll just be a plus for Siemens and other manufacturers aswell... can you say the word "Switch"


Hehe...man, the phone isnt even released yet, how can you say its going to be buggy??? Heck, the firmware they are using is only beta firmware, according to various sites, such as mobile- review.com. Also, its funny how you point out there is gonna be firmware issue's, dont all phones have FW issues? I mean, thats what we have been doing with our S55's, downloading and testing FW, no? You have tons of threads involving FW for our S55's, dont you? So how is this different from SE? Is Siemens that superior that they dont have FW upgrades? Im afraid thats not what i have seen here man. Most phones dont need FW upgrades, they are only for major problems or pickey users, which are abundant here on HoFo. I have never upgraded S55 firmware, and my phone works fine for my usage. Same with the T68i...I have peeps that are happy with their T68i's and still have old firmware revisions on their phones. All i have to say is look at all the threads here about S55 FW upgrades...apparently YOU guys arnt happy with your S55's, hehehe You are trying to compare a Symbian OS powerd phone with a normal phone...it doesnt make sense. All i know, is that FW is the LAST of my worries, i didnt need it on the S55, I never needed it on any phone, i have tried a friend's T68i with old FW and i was happy, and thats that! No matter what you say, you will see the T610 more successfull than the SX1...why? Well because the smartphone market is extremely new, and people are more interested in fancy but more "normal" types of phones. SX1 is like a radical leap from the ordinary...big step in the cell market...thats why. Plus, why do you think there are wayyy more posts on the SE forum than the Siemens forum? That speaks for itself

My 3 centz!

PS: (Didn't mean to start anything )



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
Hehe...man, the phone isnt even released yet, how can you say its going to be buggy??? Heck, the firmware they are using is only beta firmware, according to various sites, such as mobile- review.com. Also, its funny how you point out there is gonna be firmware issue's, dont all phones have FW issues? I mean, thats what we have been doing with our S55's, downloading and testing FW, no? You have tons of threads involving FW for our S55's, dont you? So how is this different from SE? Is Siemens that superior that they dont have FW upgrades? Im afraid thats not what i have seen here man. Most phones dont need FW upgrades, they are only for major problems or pickey users, which are abundant here on HoFo. I have never upgraded S55 firmware, and my phone works fine for my usage. Same with the T68i...I have peeps that are happy with their T68i's and still have old firmware revisions on their phones. All i have to say is look at all the threads here about S55 FW upgrades...apparently YOU guys arnt happy with your S55's, hehehe You are trying to compare a Symbian OS powerd phone with a normal phone...it doesnt make sense. All i know, is that FW is the LAST of my worries, i didnt need it on the S55, I never needed it on any phone, i have tried a friend's T68i with old FW and i was happy, and thats that! No matter what you say, you will see the T610 more successfull than the SX1...why? Well because the smartphone market is extremely new, and people are more interested in fancy but more "normal" types of phones. SX1 is like a radical leap from the ordinary...big step in the cell market...thats why.

My 3 centz!

PS: (Didn't mean to start anything )



I was comparing Symbian OS to Microsoft as you had brought up Orange SPV not Symbian to SE T610 go back and read and you will see. As for f/w... all fones may have issues with f/w but look at the record of SE... s55 firmware upgrades don't have the issue T68i f/w upgrades did. Siemens firmware upgrades don't nearly have the after shocks that SE's do. Do some research and talk to mass of users and you will see. I wouldn't say the SX1 is a radical leap of mobile fone it is the future of mobile fones. You can rant, say and/or flame all you want... the point of this thread was a poll on T610 vs SX1. They are not the same class of fone but hey someone wants to do that the bottom line is SX1 railroads it and that's that. When you buy your beloved T610 use it for a month or so then come holla at me about it's problems.



Posted by: hardtarget35

lol...well, the thing is, look at the votes? The peeps have spoken, and at the SE forum, this same thread exist and look at the comments/votes. In no way are the comments at the SE forum as biased as they are here! Feature wise, SX1 is better, but form and funtionality wise (for what the user needs and would use for fun) peeps prefer the T610. SX1 is too much phone for a lot of people, even though its kool. But how many people need that much phone? To me, T610 is already enuff, why more? Its geared to peeps who want the latest and greatest, thats why. Different class of phones, at least we can agree on that I have done my homework, and talked to peeps, and like a siad B4, the FW upgrades arnt as nessesary as you may think on SE phones. All the problems that came from FW upgrades on T68i occured because of rushing and pickeyness! (ie. peeps where not flashing over emma2 and causing the BT to stop functioning...idiots!) I aint trying to flame here man if thats what you think, im just having a good debate, thats all. I have spoken, now i guess its your turn again



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
lol...well, the thing is, look at the votes? The peeps have spoken, and at the SE forum, this same thread exist and look at the comments/votes. In no way are the comments at the SE forum as biased as they are here! Feature wise, SX1 is better, but form and funtionality wise (for what the user needs and would use for fun) peeps prefer the T610. SX1 is too much phone for a lot of people, even though its kool. But how many people need that much phone? To me, T610 is already enuff, why more? Its geared to peeps who want the latest and greatest, thats why. Different class of phones, at least we can agree on that I have done my homework, and talked to peeps, and like a siad B4, the FW upgrades arnt as nessesary as you may think on SE phones. All the problems that came from FW upgrades on T68i occured because of rushing and pickeyness! (ie. peeps where not flashing over emma2 and causing the BT to stop functioning...idiots!) I aint trying to flame here man if thats what you think, im just having a good debate, thats all. I have spoken, now i guess its your turn again



Of course SE forum will choose SE T610... these are the same people that think the T68i is a better fone than the s55... what a joke. The bottom line is you have also said the SX1 is a better fone overall than the T610. That's what this thread was about Nobody cares about if you are going to get it or not...



Posted by: hardtarget35

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Originally posted by Synncere
Of course SE forum will choose SE T610... these are the same people that think the T68i is a better fone than the s55... what a joke. The bottom line is you have also said the SX1 is a better fone overall than the T610. That's what this thread was about Nobody cares about if you are going to get it or not...


Actually thats not the case...there are a few SX1 chosers there, and no one is putting down Siemens like SE is being put down here. Bottom line is this, both of them are great phones, and buy what you want/need, right? You can get your SX1 and be happy, il get my T610 and be happy, and now look...everybody's happy!



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
Actually thats not the case...there are a few SX1 chosers there, and no one is putting down Siemens like SE is being put down here. Bottom line is this, both of them are great phones, and buy what you want/need, right? You can get your SX1 and be happy, il get my T610 and be happy, and now look...everybody's happy!


whatever turns your crank...



Posted by: hardtarget35

My point exactly



Posted by: Synncere

Quote:
Originally posted by hardtarget35
My point exactly




At least we have it on record now that even you know the SX1 railroads the T610 Nah but seriously we can do this all night... so much HoFo so little time... he he well enjoy your fone and that's that. As long as we're mobile enabled it's all good



Posted by: mantis5

Well, this is a much more interesting comparison thread than the SX-1 vs. 3650 thread in the Nokia forum <http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=119595>.

You guys make your points much better.

It's so easy for us to get carried away defending the phones we like best... as you have concluded, "whatever floats yer boat!"



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by mantis5
Well, this is a much more interesting comparison thread than the SX-1 vs. 3650 thread in the Nokia forum <http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=119595>.

You guys make your points much better.

It's so easy for us to get carried away defending the phones we like best... as you have concluded, "whatever floats yer boat!"



I agree with ya Mantis. I have seen some threads get waaaaaay out of control. Hardtarget and I are cool tho... we have always had this for a while it's just all for fun. Harmless debate and shooting views back n' forth without all the needless name calling and all. I know him from waaaay back so we're cool.



Posted by: das fuhrer

sx1 for me for i had a previous not nice experience with a t65 before then a t68i and i do not like it very much. the soap bar shape t610's release was delayed again and maybe it will take 3 months or more to come out. my guess is they are still ironing out the bugs so evident in SE phones now. the germans are better than the swedes i say.



Posted by: halfempty

Any word on whether there will be an 850/1900 version of the SX1?

I'm at a point where I don't think I will be buying any more phones that don't support 850mhz band.

Even if some North American carriers, like FIDO, don't support 850, their roaming partners may, so 850 coverage will be important.



Posted by: DaGreatOne

SX 1 is the best!!!
<ducking>



Posted by: oneeyejack

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Originally posted by DaGreatOne
SX 1 is the best!!!


hecks yeah.



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by halfempty
Any word on whether there will be an 850/1900 version of the SX1?

I'm at a point where I don't think I will be buying any more phones that don't support 850mhz band.

Even if some North American carriers, like FIDO, don't support 850, their roaming partners may, so 850 coverage will be important.


I have heard there will be no North American version of the SX1.
If you want a fone that's 850 enabled and Fido doesn't have it then go to Rogers... some of their new upcoming fones will be 850 enabled



Posted by: hardtarget35

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Originally posted by mantis5
Well, this is a much more interesting comparison thread than the SX-1 vs. 3650 thread in the Nokia forum <http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...threadid=119595>.

You guys make your points much better.

It's so easy for us to get carried away defending the phones we like best... as you have concluded, "whatever floats yer boat!"


Yea, but my boy Synn has the strongest point...SX1 is gonna be the best mobile hands down. Even though i like the T610, and cant afford the SX1...SX1 will be the best mobile i can think of for a while.



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by hardtarget35
Yea, but my boy Synn has the strongest point...SX1 is gonna be the best mobile hands down. Even though i like the T610, and cant afford the SX1...SX1 will be the best mobile i can think of for a while.




None the less let's just all keep our fingers crossed that the fone drops sooner than later he he he

Here's the mobiles in general! Our passion.



Posted by: ChemicalX

The only edge i see that the T610 has over the SX1 is the better quality of screen. But thats only a possiblity. I don't believe theres a Series 60 Model that handles more colours than 4000 colors.



Posted by: das fuhrer

hey i'm content with 4096 colors and 65000 colors really drains your battery fast. the pictures also looks good in 4096.



Posted by: molna

Don't you guys know that SX1 has 65.000 colors?
It only handles 4k colors in the menus, but that's no problem.

I've been using T610 for a while. It's nothing to wait for: seriously bad keys, bad camera (actually as bad as on the 7250...), slow java etc. Only good thing is the display, which is a bit smaller than the display on SX1 though.

T610 is nothing more than slightly an upgraded T68i. Only new is camera, better display, java and polytones. It cannot be compared to the much more advanced SX1



Posted by: 100thMonkey

After the S56 comes out!!! I am getting get rid of the T39 and cruise in some Siemens style.

I gotta say though that the SGH D700 is looking hard to beat...too bad its not GSM 850...WTF is a company gonna support SYmbian and 850????



Posted by: ChemicalX

I was in error then. With Nokia's Series 60 platform. I thought the SX1 would be limited to 4096 colours. Given so far the current Symbian platform phones (ie. 7650, P800, 3650 etc.) are all limited to 4096 colours. I'm starting to like this phone more and more.



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by ChemicalX
I was in error then. With Nokia's Series 60 platform. I thought the SX1 would be limited to 4096 colours. Given so far the current Symbian platform phones (ie. 7650, P800, 3650 etc.) are all limited to 4096 colours. I'm starting to like this phone more and more.


My Samsung fones had 65,000 color and looked great... can't wait to have a 650000 color screen on a Siemens now if the SX1 uses 4k in the menus only then what's the big deal right I mean it's just a menu.



Posted by: molna

Series 60 is limited to 4k colors, but SX1 can of course view 65k colors on pictures, games etc. I'm not sure where exactly the "limit" for 4k or 65k colors goes...



Posted by: Synncere

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Originally posted by molna
Series 60 is limited to 4k colors, but SX1 can of course view 65k colors on pictures, games etc. I'm not sure where exactly the "limit" for 4k or 65k colors goes...


That's my fault... I didn't word my previous response correctly what I meant was able to view pics, game and other media with 65,000 colors will be nice on the SX1 becuase I have a 65K color screen on another fone and it looks great!! I am not sure either where the limit on the 4K or 65K goes but basically what I meant to imply was if I can view my media in 65K and not 4K that would be sweet.



Posted by: zerowind

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Originally posted by molna

I've been using T610 for a while. It's nothing to wait for: seriously bad keys, bad camera (actually as bad as on the 7250...)


Interesting that you say this. The 7250 has the same resolution camera as the T610 but just rotated (landscape vs. portrait.) I wouldn't be surprised if it was the exact same assembly...

Have to admit as a (happy) P800 owner, that SX1 has caught my eye. I just wish it were a Symbian UIQ device .. Using a stylus is easier when making entries.. But that two handed texting may work out once you get used to the layout...





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