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Posted by: dimik

I've just purchased a housing for a Nokia E65 and am wondering if anyone has instructions on how to disassemble the handset in order to change the housing. I can't seem to get my head around it and don't want to destroy my phone. Is there any person out there that has done this and is able to share their advice on instructions.

Cheers



Posted by: dimik

Doesn't anyone have any information that could assist with my problem?



Posted by: tyronewheatley

look on google. i remmeber seeing some photos with instructions on how to take it apart and put it back together.. it seemed pretty complicated though because some parts were not reusable when you dissasembled it..



Posted by: dimik

I tried Google, it was pretty messed up with a slideshow that contained missing images. I found one link that led me here but then when I clicked on it, it said something along the lines of "I don't have permissions" ??????? I tried to work it out but can't find a reason why I don't have permissions?

I know there are instructions out there with specific diagrams/photo's etc. I only hope that the person/people that have them might choose to share them.

My only disbelief is that people sell housing without instructions!!!!!

I just wish I could find a way to change the housing.



Posted by: tyronewheatley

yea that slide show is the one i'm talking about i think its on flickr or something of that sort... Anyways that was the same pictures that were on here.. but i guess for some reason it cant be posted on this forum...

I heard its hard to change out the middle and back top part... probably the best thing to do is take it into a shop and see if they are willing to do it...



Posted by: angel_wing0

especially with the film in between the sliders



Posted by: dimik

Ok well it's done, I waited but I guess no-one wants to share their images and or instrucitons. It's not that hard and it took all of maybe 15 - 20 minutes ..

Basically basic understanding of the slide and how to pull the pins out allows for the removal of the screw that's holding that all important piece of the housing on and thereafter as they say it's all a piece of cake. I nkow have a totally gorgeous immaculate looking WHITE E65 .. wooooooohooooooooo!!



Posted by: tyronewheatley

pictures please



Posted by: dimik

Pictures of what? The white E65 ) that I have?



Posted by: caparn

I want to change my housing but am having trouble working out how to get he slider off.
Dimik, how did you take the slider off?



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
Pictures of what? The white E65 ) that I have?

wow white e65



Posted by: dimik

Just wondering how I post images on this post so I can share the white e65 wiht you guys/gals????



caparn I want to change my housing but am having trouble working out how to get he slider off.
Dimik, how did you take the slider off?

If you're knowledge isn't up to scratch and you're unable to do it leave it to someone who does know, ask a technician or leave it well enough alone, it's not an easy job and your run the risk of stuffing the phone up then you'll be sorry.



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
Just wondering how I post images on this post so I can share the white e65 wiht you guys/gals????



caparn I want to change my housing but am having trouble working out how to get he slider off.
Dimik, how did you take the slider off?

If you're knowledge isn't up to scratch and you're unable to do it leave it to someone who does know, ask a technician or leave it well enough alone, it's not an easy job and your run the risk of stuffing the phone up then you'll be sorry.

imageshack.us



Posted by: dimik

Wow the attachement privilidges here are really bad but I did get this little one on of the front of the white e65.

Sorry guys but what can you do when you're not allowed to do it? LOL





Posted by: angel_wing0

like i said, upload the pics to imageshack.us



Posted by: caparn

>>>it's not an easy job and your run the risk of stuffing the phone up then you'll be sorry.

dimik, I did it. It was just a case of removing the screen and pushing out the plastic cover in the middle of the phone to reveal a hole which, in turn, reveals the middle screw on the middle housing. The only difficult bit after that is removing the side buttons which are removed throug the outside of the case. I now have a nice mocca e65 instead of a red one. perfect!!!

Anyone want to buy a red housing, front back and middle, in excellent condition for an e65?



Posted by: angel_wing0

^ if u are located in the gta



Posted by: RENNtecher

I bet it is not an easy job, but Caparn - The slide show states that there are some parts that cannot be re-used after the disassembly.

Did you experience this?

Thx!

Quote:
Originally Posted by caparn
>>>it's not an easy job and your run the risk of stuffing the phone up then you'll be sorry.

dimik, I did it. It was just a case of removing the screen and pushing out the plastic cover in the middle of the phone to reveal a hole which, in turn, reveals the middle screw on the middle housing. The only difficult bit after that is removing the side buttons which are removed throug the outside of the case. I now have a nice mocca e65 instead of a red one. perfect!!!

Anyone want to buy a red housing, front back and middle, in excellent condition for an e65?




Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by RENNtecher
I bet it is not an easy job, but Caparn - The slide show states that there are some parts that cannot be re-used after the disassembly.

Did you experience this?

Thx!


The only part you are not expected to reuse is the small black plastic rectangular strip of plastic that you can see on the back of the screen when you slide the phone apart, this just covers a hole. If you gently ease it off from the inside with a screwdriver it comes away quite easily and can be reused by glueing it back with some superglue when you've finished.

The tricky bits are:
1) Take the screen out. This requires a very thin fine blade or watch screwdriver to release 4 tiny catches on the side of the screen. The screen is NOT glued in.

2) Ease off the black plastic rectangular strip from the back of the phone without damaging it.

3) Ease of the connector wire strips with a flat plastic blade.

4) Removal of the side buttons. These are removed by easing them through the outside of the phone. Don't try to take them out form the inside!

I found it a bit easier than I thought it would be. The most difficult thing thing is working out how the bits are removed and in which order.



Posted by: dimik

caparn?? Any images of the new E65 you have? What color is it now?


Hmmmmmm I never found any problems with any of the parts, I use my phone just fine. I did not have to glue anything back and I cannot work out why you'd have to punch out the black plastic rectangular strip from the back of the phone.

All in all it's been done, I'm using my phone without having to glue or buy any further parts etc. I think maybe people are going a bit over the top with this. I have images of my phone here --> http://e-series.org/

I think what's a little disheartening is when I asked for assistance, no-one came to the party. As soon as people find out you've done it, they suck you for information. I can't give instructions as I am not going to be held responsible for people doing things wrong, basically if you're game enough to pull the E65 apart and be able to put it back together then go for it, if not then LEAVE IT ALONE! No point wrecking a new phone just for a housing.

Peace out people.



Posted by: dimik

caparn it's ok I know it's mocca I just had a moment! LOL

Mocha right?

I guess images of the Mocha one aren't at all new so it's kewl don't worry bout posting any images.

Peace out



Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
Hmmmmmm I never found any problems with any of the parts, I use my phone just fine. I did not have to glue anything back and I cannot work out why you'd have to punch out the black plastic rectangular strip from the back of the phone.



The black plastic rectangular strip needs to be removed only if you want to change the middle part of the housing.



Posted by: dimik

Ok maybe I'm just not able to understand but I still have no idea which black rectangular strip you mean. I do not recall removing black rectangular strip! Maybe it's just a blonde moment? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm You able to provide a picture?



Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
Ok maybe I'm just not able to understand but I still have no idea which black rectangular strip you mean. I do not recall removing black rectangular strip! Maybe it's just a blonde moment? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm You able to provide a picture?


It's easy to see. You don't even need to take the phone apart. Just slide the phone open, as you do when yu make a call, and look round the back of the phone. The black plastic around the back of the screen has a small rectangular strip of plastic stuck on it.



Posted by: htn85

i just purchased a mocha color to change my black cover (had 3 branding on it). i'm in love with the mocha color so if anyone would be able to put together a guide on how to change the cover, that would be greatly appreciated! mmm mocha... mmmmm cofffeeeeee



Posted by: dimik

Quote:
Originally Posted by caparn
It's easy to see. You don't even need to take the phone apart. Just slide the phone open, as you do when yu make a call, and look round the back of the phone. The black plastic around the back of the screen has a small rectangular strip of plastic stuck on it.



Ok that's why I was confused, I have no idea why you'd want to remove that black rectangular piece when the front housing only needs to be unclipped. I think basically it's all confused in here. The screw you need to remove is to change the back top bit that holds the main phone together but honestly it's as I said in my prior post, if you know not LEAVE IT ALONE! I'm still in dismay as to why you'd be removing that lil black piece???? totally not making sense! Nonetheless it's down and out for me .. I've changed my housing the easy way without losing anything as far as unusable pieces go and life now goes on.

LOL

Peace out!!





Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
I think basically it's all confused in here. The screw you need to remove is to change the back top bit that holds the main phone together but honestly it's as I said in my prior post


YES! I changed the middle housing bit of the phone as well as the front and back. I had a red E65 with a red middle bit and I wanted to change the housing to be all mocca. It looked pretty naff when I just replaced the front and the battery cover to mocca with a red middle.

If you want to change the middle bit of the housing you have to remove the said black plastic strip.

I think/hope we don't have crossed wires anymore.



Posted by: RENNtecher

Hey every one!

I think part of the reason why people didn't respond to your posts were because not too many people actually did the modification - you are a pioneer =D

Thats why we come to consult with you guys that actually changed the housing.

My white housing is on the way: Dimik u are saying that you don't need to remove that screw covered by the plastic & capran says that u have to?

Can you so kind as to add to Carpan's instructions the steps you can change the middle housing without popping that magical black little piece of plastic?

hhaha



Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by RENNtecher
Dimik u are saying that you don't need to remove that screw covered by the plastic & capran says that u have to?

Can you so kind as to add to Carpan's instructions the steps you can change the middle housing without popping that magical black little piece of plastic?

The only way you could possibly do it without removing the plastic rectangular cover is to disassemble the sprung slider mechanism. In my opinion this is much more difficult and risky than removing the rectangular strip.

The rectangular strip is only glued in anyway, so if you are careful and glue it back you'll never know the difference.

The only tools that you need to do the job are a T6 screwdriver and a plastic opening tool (and a very fine knife point for removing the LCD screen).



Posted by: vbap

OK, I am giving this a go also.

I think I understand the conflict between Dimik and Caparn. From viewing the "Disassembly" slides, plus having a close look at my E65, I deduce the following:
  1. In order to remove the "Middle" housing, a screw needs to be removed.
  2. This screw is located in near the top of phone (ie above the camera lens)
  3. To access this screw, there are two methods:
  4. The Caparn method is as per the Disassembly slide. That is,
    1. remove the screen housing,
    2. remove the screen itself,
    3. open the slide to remove the "black plastic", and push though the round "masking" disc, thus creating a hole
    4. close the slide
    5. the hole should now be aligned with the screw head of the middle housing,
    6. remove the screw
  5. The Dimik method is to remove the entire slide assembly from the phone by removing the pins that attach the slide to the main body.

I would prefer the Dimik method, as I am loath to touch the LCD screen itself.

However, I noticed while playing around, that the microphone sits inside a round cavity inside the middle housing. When I lift the middle housing, the microphone stays inside that housing. Did either of you (dimik / caparn) experience this and did you just pull the microphone out of the old middle housing and put it into the new middle housing? From the DIsassembly guide, it suggests that once the microphone comes out, it cannot be re-used....


Thanks Guys.



Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by vbap
However, I noticed while playing around, that the microphone sits inside a round cavity inside the middle housing. When I lift the middle housing, the microphone stays inside that housing. Did either of you (dimik / caparn) experience this and did you just pull the microphone out of the old middle housing and put it into the new middle housing? From the DIsassembly guide, it suggests that once the microphone comes out, it cannot be re-used....


I didn't actually notice the microphone. I think you may actually get a new microphone included in a new middle housing. There certainally were a couple of electrical contact items at the bottom of the new housing. I'll check when I get home to see if the old mic is still inside the old casing an report back.

PS: My phone works just fine.



Posted by: vbap

Quote:
Originally Posted by caparn
I didn't actually notice the microphone. I think you may actually get a new microphone included in a new middle housing. There certainally were a couple of electrical contact items at the bottom of the new housing.

Hmmm - my middle housing does not have a microphone included. Now I'm concerned if I try to replace the middle housing - it looks like the microphone is not fixed inside the housing. According to the disassembly guide, it should just come out. I hope I can re-insert into the new housing...



Posted by: dimik

Quote:
Originally Posted by vbap
OK, I am giving this a go also.

I think I understand the conflict between Dimik and Caparn. From viewing the "Disassembly" slides, plus having a close look at my E65, I deduce the following:
  1. In order to remove the "Middle" housing, a screw needs to be removed.
  2. This screw is located in near the top of phone (ie above the camera lens)
  3. To access this screw, there are two methods:
  4. The Caparn method is as per the Disassembly slide. That is,
    1. remove the screen housing,
    2. remove the screen itself,
    3. open the slide to remove the "black plastic", and push though the round "masking" disc, thus creating a hole
    4. close the slide
    5. the hole should now be aligned with the screw head of the middle housing,
    6. remove the screw
  5. The Dimik method is to remove the entire slide assembly from the phone by removing the pins that attach the slide to the main body.

I would prefer the Dimik method, as I am loath to touch the LCD screen itself.

However, I noticed while playing around, that the microphone sits inside a round cavity inside the middle housing. When I lift the middle housing, the microphone stays inside that housing. Did either of you (dimik / caparn) experience this and did you just pull the microphone out of the old middle housing and put it into the new middle housing? From the DIsassembly guide, it suggests that once the microphone comes out, it cannot be re-used....


Thanks Guys.


vbap I applaude you .. yes you see what's going on and worded it brilliantly. Dimi did it her way and as a result didn't damage anything and although it wasn't easy it still is a much safer alternative.

Again vbap you excelled here!

Thanks for clearing this all up. I coudln't understand why the lcd had to be touched!

Peace out to you!!

Dimi ;o)



Posted by: vbap

Dimi,
Did you have any issues with the microphone as I mentioned above? Did you have to move it from the old middle housing to the new or did you get a microphone with the new middle housing?

Thanks,



Posted by: caparn

Quote:
Originally Posted by vbap
However, I noticed while playing around, that the microphone sits inside a round cavity inside the middle housing. When I lift the middle housing, the microphone stays inside that housing. Did either of you (dimik / caparn) experience this and did you just pull the microphone out of the old middle housing and put it into the new middle housing? From the Disassembly guide, it suggests that once the microphone comes out, it cannot be re-used....


I can confirm that the new housing came with a mic already in it.
I purchased a genuine Nokia middle housing from http://www.blueunplugged.com/p.aspx?p=119994
I just left the old one in the old housing.



Posted by: vbap

Quote:
Originally Posted by caparn
I can confirm that the new housing came with a mic already in it.
I purchased a genuine Nokia middle housing from http://www.blueunplugged.com/p.aspx?p=119994
I just left the old one in the old housing.


Thanks caparn.

I'll also wait for Dimi's response, since hers would not be original nokia (they don't make white). I got my black one from ebay HK, and just need to know whether I should have expected a mic in the middle housing or whether it's reasonably safe to transfer it from old to new.



Posted by: dimik

I answered the question about the microphone, I had no issues at all with it.

As for the housing, it's got Nokia logo front and back and looks just like the phone's housing when I bought the phone, normally generic ones go unbranded so as far as I can see it's orginal. The middle cover caparn bought is just that, one piece of a 3 pce set, so maybe it's packaged differently. I can't know how manufacturers pack their products. I guess everyone has to be content with what they buy and the choices they make. Right guys?





Posted by: vbap

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
I answered the question about the microphone, I had no issues at all with it.

Sorry Dimi, I must be blind - I didn't see your response. Did you move it from the old housing to the new housing or did it come with the new housing?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dimik
As for the housing, it's got Nokia logo front and back and looks just like the phone's housing when I bought the phone, normally generic ones go unbranded so as far as I can see it's orginal.

Mine has the same Nokia logo and branding, but I'm pretty sure it's not nokia "original" (I think the ebay covers even mention that). Doesn't matter, I'm generally happy with the cover (the material feels a little cheaper than my original red one).



Posted by: dimik

vpab I didn't touch the microphone, it's still the original microphone. I only changed the housing and nothing else was touched/removed etc.

As far as the housing goes, I am not fussed to be honest about whether it's original or not, it has the Nokia logo it and looks just like the genuine Red one I originally got the E65 with, yes the material is different as it doesn't have the smooth feel of the Red but I put a crystal cover over it and so it matters none to me. Actually it's more a look thing, white is so clean, classy and flawless. I love the color white so I am extremely happy with the end result of the new housing on my phone.



Posted by: Synacide

Dimik,

Can you share with us how to specifically remove the slider with the pin that you mentioned that must be removed in order for the slide assembly to be taken apart.

Thanks in Advance



Posted by: RENNtecher

Hey ALL!

I finally got around to changing my housing. I couldn't figure out out to remove the entire sliding mechanism...

capran's method of performing the housing change. You just have to be careful with the LCD. All in all pretty simple job.



Posted by: Synacide

I have an original Nokia E65 Mocca Housing for sale now if anyones interested. Just PM me.




Posted by: angel_wing0

^ might want to post it on bst





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