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Posted by: juiceppc

I know it's way out there but I'm curious to see if some adventurous person will try/do this. That would be funny. And sweet! The more I think about the iPhone the more I think it's just the hardware/screen that I'm attracted to.

That screen is hypnotizing.

Just a thought. WinMo invaded the Palm, iPhone is next.

Posted by: JwY

It would be really hard for anyone to get the type of touchscreen to work with WM. For example the stylus calibration part in Pro would have to be really tinkered with.

Posted by: aquinon

I would be very curious to see it working. The device will definitely become interesting in that case.

There's a thread in the Apple forum with this very same question, but as seems to happen with iphone threads, the discussion quickly degenerates and is as of much use as the a day time talk show.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ight=WM6+iPhone

I hope answers are more interesting here in the WM forums.

Posted by: jomo25

I think they are more focused on doing simple stuff like using custom ringtones and sending to multiple recipients in a single SMS than running a whole nother OS on their phones.

Posted by: neo001

I want to get an onion that will taste like a strawberry , oh and I also want a Vespa that will sound and run like my bike

what the heck is wrong with you people . . . really

Just when I thought we were safe about the I crap , here we go again , if you like it so much why dont you marry it , I mean . . . why dont you just buy one , oh yeah it doesnt do what our WM phones can do , so please choose your platform and just keep this forum I crap free . . .

p.s. I know I probably will get my post deleted its ok , as long as some of you I crap fans can read what I think it is totally worth it

Posted by: PiTT

i've been following the development of the Ubuntu Mobile OS very closely, you guys should really check that out when those devices come out. It's more of a UMPC OS than anything, but i think it will give the iPhone OS a run for it's money. very customizable and the devices should be comparable (not in size).

Posted by: PiTT

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Originally Posted by aquinon

I would be very curious to see it working. The device will definitely become interesting in that case.

There's a thread in the Apple forum with this very same question, but as seems to happen with iphone threads, the discussion quickly degenerates and is as of much use as the a day time talk show.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ight=WM6+iPhone

I hope answers are more interesting here in the WM forums.

i feel like i walked into a 2nd grade class room and the argument being "GI Joe's can beat up the Transformers!"

i feel bad for whtrbt7, i don't think he knows what he was getting himself into.

Posted by: richy240

Drivers? Drivers anyone?

Posted by: whtrbt7

lol, let the chaos ensue!!!!
I double checked the method to install WM6 on an iPhone. It's a lot of work. There would be no resistive calibrator and custom apps would need to be written so that the thing is usable. Overall, we would end up with an oversized P4350 without a keyboard. I have to admit, Apple's keyboard app kicks booty. I'm wondering if someone will port it to WM6. Happy Tapping just isn't cutting it for me.

Posted by: juiceppc

Hey I just thought It'd be cool to see WinMo on the iPhone. Is it legal to marry a phone?

Posted by: neo001

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Originally Posted by juiceppc

Hey I just thought It'd be cool to see WinMo on the iPhone. Is it legal to marry a phone?

Probably no . . . why because you can never ever be a one phone guy hahaha there is no way one could be faithfull

Posted by: hellomoto_25

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Originally Posted by neo001

Probably no . . . why because you can never ever be a one phone guy hahaha there is no way one could be faithfull

Hey J. Don't hate on us iPhoners so much. I guess I'm really testing our friendship....having the iPhone for myself and the Treo for my wife.

Have you seen an iPhone yet?

I bet you'll be tempted once you hold one.

Posted by: JNGold

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Originally Posted by hellomoto_25

Hey J. Don't hate on us iPhoners so much. I guess I'm really testing our friendship....having the iPhone for myself and the Treo for my wife.

Have you seen an iPhone yet?

I bet you'll be tempted once you hold one.

Heh! I have the opposite....I have the 750 for myself and the iPhone for my wife. When I don't feel like firing up the 'ole laptop just to surf the web, I use the iPhone. What a great phone it is.

Posted by: PiTT

so much disappointment in this thread huh Neo? i feel like i don't know these people anymore.

Posted by: JNGold

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Originally Posted by PiTT

so much disappointment in this thread huh Neo? i feel like i don't know these people anymore.

Nah...it's not the people but the uninspiring devices that has pervaded in the market. Same crap over and over. HTC does two form factors (for WM Pro devices)....with the Touch just barely changing the tide. On the software side, TouchFlo is cool but as we hear over and over...it's half arsed. WM6 is no big shakes in terms of usability.

Sometimes it takes something a little different to shake the establishment out of its doldrums.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by JNGold

With all due respect, this is so incorrect. HTC's form factors include the tablet (Magician, Prophet, Trinity, Elf), QWERTY slider (Wizard, Hermes, Herald, Apache, Kaiser), vertical slider (Blue Angel, Harrier, more to come), candy bar (Typhoon, MTeoR), QWERTY-bar (Excalibur, Cavalier), and innovative form factors like the twisty QWERTY tablet (Universal, Omni) and separated magnetic QWERTY tablet thingamagig (Athena). Am I missing any? Oh yeah, the Pocket PC-***-UMPC (Shangri-La, aka Advantage).

You're just flat-out wrong on this one, JNGold. HTC is an incredibly innovative and diverse company when it comes to their hardware. By comparison, the iPhone's hardware is just an HTC Prophet -- well over a year old. I'll give Apple plenty of props for their software innovations in the iPhone, but these are software innovations only. There is nothing -- I repeat nothing -- innovative about the iPhone from a hardware or form factor perspective. I dare you to prove me otherwise.

Also: The emphasis of WM6 was not the end-user, but the IT manager. There are tons of incredibly valuable improvements in WM6 that you are blindly discounting here.

Posted by: hellomoto_25

Touched a nerve did we Urban...... ;-)

I do have to say that HTC has nothing that comes close to the iPhone's screen.

I think the iPhone is good for the WM world.

It'll be fun to see where the industry goes in 5 years.

Competition is healthy.

Posted by: hellomoto_25

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Originally Posted by PiTT

so much disappointment in this thread huh Neo? i feel like i don't know these people anymore.

I'm still me.

And I'm still here.

I have a good excuse for going to the iPhone.

I always tried to make my WM devices look like a Mac (using Wisbar). You remember my pics of my phones in my sig. They always had an OSX theme.

This was a dream come true to me.

But we all know how WE are. WE don't stick with a device for very long. Right Mike C.

I'm sure I'll be back to a WM device before too long.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by hellomoto_25

Touched a nerve did we Urban...... ;-)

I do have to say that HTC has nothing that comes close to the iPhone's screen.

I think the iPhone is good for the WM world.

It'll be fun to see where the industry goes in 5 years.

Competition is healthy.

Totally agreed with everything you said above. And coming from me, given my employer, that says a lot.

But as much as I agree the iPhone is a wake-up call to the folks inside the Windows Mobile group at Microsoft, I also disagree that HTC, Samsung, and even Motorola are not providing hardware innovation. They certainly are.

Does the Windows Mobile team have a lot to work toward? Yes, and I feel confident everyone inside Windows Mobile would agree.

Posted by: neo001

Hey I love all of you regulars really . . . including you J (hellomoto_25) even though you have a Treo

See all of you are missing the point here , it is not the I phone users or the I phone itself that I hate , in fact I think it is f-awesome and elegant , what I do hate is the fact that you guys are invading my forum (OK your , no OUR forum) with I phone stuff , it is freaking annoying to see threads like : can anybody give me a link for an I phone skin ?? is it possible to have the I phone icons ?? yada yada yada . . . etc etc . . .

Enough !! C'mon people if you like the I phone . . . get it !! cant afford it ?? well then it is not for you . . . geez , its like wanting your minivan to look and act like a porshe with out loosing its minivan capabilities , I have to be honest with you all , I have been tempted to post what really is on my mind in those threads , but then I really really think that if I get banned I will really really miss this place . . . oh well , I guess that is why they say that you can have cake and eat it too huh ??

So please , please people , do rethink what you post , I mean C'mon like I said if you like it so much why not get one ?? please dudes and dudetes please stop the I phone crap

Posted by: richy240

Dude, you know you'll be the next one to post an iPhone thread in the WM forum.

Just kidding.

Seriously though, THE TRUTH COMES OUT!

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Originally Posted by neo001

in fact I think it is f-awesome and elegant

OH MY GOD!

Posted by: JNGold

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

There is nothing -- I repeat nothing -- innovative about the iPhone from a hardware or form factor perspective. I dare you to prove me otherwise.

624mhz Arm processor, amazing battery life, slimmest form factor of anything I that have seen with that much horsepower, multitouch screen (I believe that is hardware), and from a visibility standpoint, one of the nicest screens on any mobile device, period. Can you tell my why HTC can't make a screen (except for the Treo) that can be viewed in sunlight?

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Also: The emphasis of WM6 was not the end-user, but the IT manager. There are tons of incredibly valuable improvements in WM6 that you are blindly discounting here.

That's not the point, and you know it. Hell, I work in IT, and I am a WM owner for over 7 years now, and I know exactly what WM6 offers. My point is that WM "out of the box" does not make for a great phone experience. Hell, it even took Palm to make a WM pro device actually better to use from a phone experience standpoint.

I will say this again...Windows Mobile is MS's attempt to cram the Windows metaphor on a portable device. Tell me, why do people still choose Palm OS devices? I tell you why, because in the consumer market (which I am referring to only), is that ease of use is king. Palm nailed it years ago but couldn't evolve and innovate fast enough to stay fresh. Now Apple has come along with a fresh device that has sold more phones in the span of one month than anything not called a RAZR.

Posted by: mikewchandler

Until you use a touch (no matter how much you think you hate the specs), you can't discount how nice it's screen is or how easy it is to use out of the box. Another thing to mention that has improved for me since reviewing it.....I have edited what shortcuts are on the touchflo cube. That has made a HUGE difference.

About the iphone....it is PERFECT for its audience.....PERFECT. It's just that we aren't that audience (with the exception of a few (hellomoto

)).

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by JNGold

The O2 Xda Atom Life has a 624MHz ARM processor and was released four months before the iPhone. It may be 5mm thicker than the iPhone, but it also has HSDPA. Where's Apple's innovation?

The iPhone's battery life is hardly "amazing"; its longevity is due largely to Apple's decision to go with a slow 2.5G radio, so comparisons to 3G devices is hardly apples-to-apples (no pun intended). By direct comparison to devices with similar specs, the iPhone's battery life is actually worse than the T-Mobile Wing and BlackBerry 8800. Where's Apple's innovation?

Multitouch is a combination of hardware and software. It is not an Apple innovation (or even Microsoft, given Surface); it has been around for decades. Where's Apple's innovation?

Your comment on screen visibility is utterly ridiculous seeing as HTC manufactures the Treo. Clearly Palm spec'ed a particular type of screen that probably costs a bit more, which HTC provided; meanwhile, HTC, for whatever reason, has decided that screen isn't worth the cost for its own products, so it uses standard screens. I hardly see how any of that is a knock on HTC's ability to innovate. Where's Apple's innovation?

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Originally Posted by JNGold

Hell, I work in IT, and I am a WM owner for over 7 years now, and I know exactly what WM6 offers. My point is that WM "out of the box" does not make for a great phone experience. Hell, it even took Palm to make a WM pro device actually better to use from a phone experience standpoint.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I strongly disagree.

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Originally Posted by JNGold

I will say this again...

I'm not quoting the rest of your post because you're changing your point. Your original point, which I'm calling you out on, was "it's not the people but the uninspiring devices that has pervaded in the market. Same crap over and over. HTC does two form factors (for WM Pro devices)....with the Touch just barely changing the tide. On the software side, TouchFlo is cool but as we hear over and over...it's half arsed. WM6 is no big shakes in terms of usability."

The usability factor and whether or not it's inspiring is your opinion; in fact I agree that Apple's one big innovation with the iPhone is its extraordinary usability. But you're flat-out wrong that HTC produces the same "two form factors" over and over again and there's a lack of innovation in the Windows Mobile ecosystem. So again, I'm calling you out: Please tell us how the iPhone is more innovative than anything on Windows Mobile in terms of hardware and form factor.

Posted by: maevro

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Originally Posted by mikewchandler

About the iphone....it is PERFECT for its audience.....PERFECT. It's just that we aren't that audience (with the exception of a few (hellomoto

)).

Man, this is so true.

You have to remember, it's the iPhone Vs. everything else, not just one phone. I think most of us are pretty territorial meaning the phone/phones you currently have is what you feel is the best thing out there right now.

I have learned so much from everyone here and respect all of your opinions so thats why I laugh at threads like these. You are all correct because thats what you actually believe.

Posted by: neo001

I can not believe this is still going on . . . C'mon this is a WM forum , want to talk about the I phone ?? go to the I phone forum , Love the screen , love the I phone , get one !! geez this is so freaking ridiculous , go to a Republican forum and talk about the democrats

It truly is sad to see intelligent people , making wrong choices . . . why ?? because if they love that freaking phone so much and don't have anything else to say but hey the I phone is great and your device is not . . . just BUY the freaking phone already !! and start posting on the I phone forum , I am pretty sure if you do and talk crap about HTC , WM phones , ETC you will get more I phone supporters so they can talk crap with you all

Posted by: juiceppc

I'm more interested in actually getting WinMo to run on that hardware. Not debating which is better/worse.

I seriously am curious. It's basically just the driver set that would be needed it seems.

Only people who could do that would be the apple people no? Or actually the OEM's of the hardware they used...

Posted by: player911

I don't care what you say, the blackjack is the best phone in the entire universe!!!!!!

Posted by: JwY

So when I was reading this page I had to double check that I was in the WM section and not in the Apple forum.

Posted by: JwY

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Originally Posted by juiceppc

I'm more interested in actually getting WinMo to run on that hardware. Not debating which is better/worse.

I seriously am curious. It's basically just the driver set that would be needed it seems.

Only people who could do that would be the apple people no? Or actually the OEM's of the hardware they used...

No, it's more complicated than just drivers. WM Pro isn't designed purely for touch so parts of it will have to be revamped. I'm not even sure if the 320x480 resolution is even supported. Add to that you can't use a stylus.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by JwY

So when I was reading this page I had to double check that I was in the WM section and not in the Apple forum.

JwY, why would you ever be in the Apple forum?

Posted by: maevro

Funny, iPhone crashed in an Apple Store.....

Posted by: JNGold

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Funny, iPhone crashed in an Apple Store.....

Must have been a rogue 3rd party application.....

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by JNGold

Must have been a rogue 3rd party application.....

Or a security flaw.

Posted by: JwY

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

JwY, why would you ever be in the Apple forum?

Watching the conflicts in the Apple forum is like watching a car crash. You know it's going to be ugly, but can't help looking.

Posted by: richy240

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

Or a security flaw.

...or a crappy phone.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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...or a crappy phone.

Indeed, my friend.

JNGold: Still waiting for factual support of your claims about HTC's "crap" devices.

(And by the way, JNGold, I don't mean anything personal in bringing it back up. I respect your posts and opinions; it's all just good, spirited debate.

)

Posted by: JNGold

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

Indeed, my friend.

JNGold: Still waiting for factual support of your claims about HTC's "crap" devices.

(And by the way, JNGold, I don't mean anything personal in bringing it back up. I respect your posts and opinions; it's all just good, spirited debate.

)

Will post more later but it's strange that you use the word "factual" when we both coming from a view of "opinion".

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by JNGold

Will post more later but it's strange that you use the word "factual" when we both coming from a view of "opinion".

Okay, "factual" wasn't the right word.

Maybe I should have said "defensible in the HoFo court of opinion!"

Posted by: Mashie

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Originally Posted by JwY

Watching the conflicts in the Apple forum is like watching a car crash. You know it's going to be ugly, but can't help looking.

ohh I have to agree here! Whenever I need a pick me up, I just head to the apple forum and watch the car crash!

Posted by: karlgeez

Imagine that an iPhone running windows mobile with the HTC touch thing going on. That would be sweet and I would love to see that how to.

Ohh and Transformers kick GI JOEs *** big Time!

http://www.askTheAdmin.com

Posted by: i880/8525junkie

Thanks but no thanks...$600 isway too much for inferior equipment..I'm with my fellow spanish speaker on this one... I crap sucks