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Posted by: zephxiii

I just made them check it out:

Larger Sizes:

Small (1500 pixels wide) 211KB:
http://www.xti9.com/att/att3gsmall.gif

Medium (4200 pixels wide) 1.1MB:
http://www.xti9.com/att/att3gmed.gif

LARGE (6000 pixes wide) 1.49MB:
http://www.xti9.com/att/att3gfull.gif

NOTE: So glad i experimented with GIF, the compression is amazing! Whats really stupid is that the actual images on ATT's coverage viewer are PNG!!!!

Totallying around 63MB, the full resolution GIF image compressed down to only 1.49MB!!!

Posted by: formercanuck

It will have to be updated, as most of So-Cal (populated/urban areas) have 3G, but very cool.

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

It will have to be updated, as most of So-Cal (populated/urban areas) have 3G, but very cool.

Yea i know, i'll keep an eye out for any changes. If people can let me know of any areas 3G was fired up in recently, i'll look for them on the map once it gets updated and add them.

Posted by: ilvla2

It's dead on for NorCal! Look for AT&T's affiliate, Edge Wireless to turn up their 3G soon (they serve NorCal, S OR, SE ID and W WY) though, probably before AT&T gets theirs past SF or Sac!

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephxiii

Yea i know, i'll keep an eye out for any changes. If people can let me know of any areas 3G was fired up in recently, i'll look for them on the map once it gets updated and add them.

Yeah - So-Cal (Los Angeles area/Ventura area/Riverside area/Orange County )

Posted by: ilvla2

You should do a comparison with Verizon's EVDO, it makes that look even sadder, and downright morbid for NorCal. By the first part of next year, ALL of Verizon's markets will have EVDO, what is AT&T's schedule, next century?

Posted by: jjdu4

Nice!!!!!!

Posted by: ilvla2

There are a couple of non-3G coverage errors for my area (Mendocino County, NorCal), there is now coverage in the towns of Mendocino and Point Arena via AT&T's Affiliate, Edge Wireless, otherwise it's correct.

Thanks for the maps by the way!

Posted by: TakeN0Prisoners

Nice, too bad it isn't in more places though, I live about 30 miles south of Fresno and whenever I take a trip up there, BOOM 5 bars 3G. I just can't believe the awesome speeds that my phone can handle plus, in Fresno, the coverage is excellent.

Posted by: ilvla2

Cool, I live in Redwood Valley, it's 8 miles north of Ukiah. We're served by AT&T Affiliate, Edge Wireless, who is testing and deploying 3G as we speak, but currently the only HDSPA/UMTS I see is when in Sac or SF. I hope to see some more next month though, I am taking the train to L.A. (Amtrak Thruway Bus to Martinez, San Joaquin to Bakersfied, Amtrak Thruway bus to L.A.) to meet my parents, who will already be there on vacation, I'll wave on the way though :-)

Edit-Verizon is turning their EVDO on up here by the end of the year, I hear rumors of October. I really hope AT&T will let me use Edge's 3G here, I don't see why not, they are an AT&T Affiliate (AT&T has a 40% interest in them, 60% is privately held), and roaming on them with my AT&T phones is seamless. I have an interview for Assistant Conductor with Amtrak next Wed in Oakland, they're hiring 8 in Oakland and 2 in Sac this go session, so my 3G coverage may change very soon, I hope!

Posted by: petard

That is pretty sad, no wonder they only allow 3G viewing at the city level!

Posted by: bobolito

LOL! ...and this is all the 3G work they've done since 2004 (AT&T Wireless)? That's almost 3 years and still they have a virtually non-existent network. It hardly looks like 160 markets like they claimed on paper.

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephxiii

NOTE: So glad i experimented with GIF, the compression is amazing! Whats really stupid is that the actual images on ATT's coverage viewer are PNG!!!!

Totallying around 63MB, the full resolution GIF image compressed down to only 1.49MB!!!

Yeah, if you have very few colors GIF can do a better job than JPG because GIF compresses based on color tone regardless of the pixel count. But when you have many colors, JPG and PNG are a lot better at compression. I always wanted to do a map like this but I realized it just takes too much time and I don't have the time. Anyway, awesome job! Thanks!

Question: how did Puerto Rico end up near South Carolina?

Posted by: ilvla2

Uhh, but, but, but...they have the iPhone!

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

Uhh, but, but, but...they have the iPhone!

...which has been unlocked!

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by petard

That is pretty sad, no wonder they only allow 3G viewing at the city level!

I agree.. it is out of date though (i.e. So-Cal has much more coverage than shown), and you can actually view 3G at the state level (i.e. put in a state, after its up, select 3G).

I like having a nice fullsize map of coverage though, vs. the 'window'.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Question: how did Puerto Rico end up near South Carolina?

Continental Drift?

Posted by: myke81

Ocean County, NJ and the Hamptons (eastern end of Long Island, NY) have 3G for the past few weeks now...

Posted by: Texasags

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

LOL! ...and this is all the 3G work they've done since 2004 (AT&T Wireless)? That's almost 3 years and still they have a virtually non-existent network. It hardly looks like 160 markets like they claimed on paper.

Looks to me like Apple wasn't so far off in not including 3G in the iPhone. There just isn't much coverage, and by the time there is, the iPhone will be on verison 2 or 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Question: how did Puerto Rico end up near South Carolina?

Ask Miss Teen South Carolina; she may not know, but she'll say something!

Posted by: Wrangler3383

Awesome job man! I'm moving this thread over to the 3G subforum.

Posted by: enigma99a

Looks good, except these maps are really old and there are several markets missing that are now 3G. Anyway, eventually all the dark orange you see will become blue! (in the not so distant future)

Posted by: i0wnj00

Nice job with the map. Though I can't say much for the real thing for 3G, and the roam zone in the Plains and Rocky Mountain States.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma99a

Looks good, except these maps are really old and there are several markets missing that are now 3G. Anyway, eventually all the dark orange you see will become blue! (in the not so distant future)

I'll believe it when I see it

Posted by: AManCalledE

How did you make this? Did you just screenshot their coverage map and save it as a GIF? The reason I am asking is I am wanting to create a coverage map (US) for AT&T and Sprint and overlay with a map that pinpoints all of the US locations of the company I work for.

Posted by: walkguru

Wirelessly posted (Walkguru's: MOT-RAZRV3xx/96.71.95R BER2.2 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; 11063081) Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Opera 8.00 [en] UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

nice job. they evan show up on my phone.

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by AManCalledE

How did you make this? Did you just screenshot their coverage map and save it as a GIF? The reason I am asking is I am wanting to create a coverage map (US) for AT&T and Sprint and overlay with a map that pinpoints all of the US locations of the company I work for.

All i did was right click on the map image on cingular's site and save it, then open in photoshop and stitch them all together.

hehe PR ended up a bit north because at the time i placed it, wasn't sure how far south the map was gonna go (hadn't gotten to texas yet).

Yea i agree, they need to update it, i might email the people who actually handle the maps and see when there might be some updates. Honestly they did update them last in may of this year, not sure what they updated though.

Posted by: zephxiii

Oh yea just wanted to say, I did it because i figured most of us would like and prefer a map like this. I know i've always wanted one at least.

So lastnight i started playing around with the site (randomly out of nowhere) and thought, "hmm I might be able to do this depending on how they cut the panes". Luckily it all worked out pretty well imo. maybe we can sticky it too

I agree though, the data is pretty old, and the 3G coverage looks pretty weak, although some areas have great coverage of it (indy for one). The other thing that is bothersome is the utter lack of AT&T's presence in some areas, like whole states! Makes me think about how they aren't as big as i originally thought.

I'll tell you what though, their map is by far better than most other companies. The only other map I think is better is T-mobile's, and thats primarily because they have more steps in their signal strength gradients, makes it easier to pick out where the cell sites actually are

I actually started mapping out cell site locations in my area on google maps for AT&T and saw how easier it would be to do for T-mobile :P

Posted by: PhillipD76

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma99a

Looks good, except these maps are really old and there are several markets missing that are now 3G. Anyway, eventually all the dark orange you see will become blue! (in the not so distant future)

I am pretty sure that is because the last time the map was updated was May 31st.

Posted by: ATnt-RSC

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

Actually, png is the replacement for gif, if you set them to the same number of colors, png is usally a little smaller than gif.

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATnt-RSC

Actually, png is the replacement for gif, if you set them to the same number of colors, png is usally a little smaller than gif.

can you animate png?

Posted by: Wrangler3383

Zephxiii, you going to keep this updated? If so I'm going to make this a sticky.

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler3383

Zephxiii, you going to keep this updated? If so I'm going to make this a sticky.

Yea, I will keep it updated.

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephxiii

can you animate png?

PNG does not support animation, but there is a variant called MNG that supports animation. I don't know, however, if the browsers support it. For the broadest compatibility, I would stick with GIF for now.

Posted by: SD69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler3383

Zephxiii, you going to keep this updated? If so I'm going to make this a sticky.

He can't update it, because it's based on the website, which isn't being updated any more.

Posted by: Wrangler3383

Can't blame a guy for having a little hope.

Posted by: SD69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler3383

Can't blame a guy for having a little hope.

no blame, just time to let it go.

Posted by: zephxiii

Wirelessly posted (V3XX or E62: Mozilla/5.0 (SymbianOS/9.1; U; en-us) AppleWebKit/413 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/413 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Who says it isn't being updated anymore???

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69

He can't update it, because it's based on the website, which isn't being updated any more.

He's talking about the national map that zephxii put together. He can update it anytime since that's hosted by him, not AT&T.

Posted by: RTrams

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag.../Central_IL.pdf

Might want to update Central Illinois

Posted by: zephxiii

I have to wait for ATT to update their map because i take the tiles and paste them in, if they ever get around to it..someday...maybe..

Posted by: ilvla2

I just took a trip over to Sacramento today, the AT&T 3G map is still exactly right, 3G ends just before Woodland. It hasn't changed in quite a while.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

I just took a trip over to Sacramento today, the AT&T 3G map is still exactly right, 3G ends just before Woodland. It hasn't changed in quite a while.

Woodland.. or Woodland hills ? It worked fine for me in Woodland hills

Posted by: ilvla2

Well, since we went from our house in Redwood Valley to Sacramento, and Woodland is about 15 miles from Sac, and Woodland Hills is in SoCal, which one do you think?

Gotta give ya a hard time bro

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

Well, since we went from our house in Redwood Valley to Sacramento, and Woodland is about 15 miles from Sac, and Woodland Hills is in SoCal, which one do you think?

Gotta give ya a hard time bro

You didn't say where you started from... you were from San Gabriel Valley (West Covina?) weren't you ?

Posted by: ilvla2

No, Redwood Valley (115 miles north of San Francisco, or 8 miles north of Ukiah) where I live-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redwoo...y%2C_California

http://www.elizabethvineyards.com/rvinfo.html

http://maps.google.com/ Just put in 95470 and it'll show you where I am. We went from there to Sacramento, via Highway's 101, 20, 29 and 53 to I-5, then I-5 to Sacramento, then I-80 to our destination (FBI Building) in Sacramento.

I was born (in Riverside) and raised in West Covina though

Posted by: ilvla2

Okay, this is better

Posted by: brandonlp

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...ttsburgh_PA.pdf

That's the link to the Pittsburgh map that somebody posted in the Western PA thread. Figure people may look here for it.

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by brandonlp

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...ttsburgh_PA.pdf

That's the link to the Pittsburgh map that somebody posted in the Western PA thread. Figure people may look here for it.

very cool, thanks for the post, interesting the lack of blue, but dark orange in the main 3G coverage area.

Posted by: myke81

so, so, so sad....

Dear Mr. ******,

Thank you for taking the time to e-mail AT&T regarding your interest in
knowing when the coverage map will be updated. I am happy to help you
with your inquiry and I apologize for any inconvenience this may have
caused.

Generally speaking, updates to network coverage and other information
will take place each business quarter. Additional updates may be added
if the need arises. In the event significant changes have not occurred,
information may not be updated during the business quarter. I apologize
for any inconvenience or misunderstanding the may have occurred.

Important Information About the Coverage Map: Map may include areas
served by unaffiliated carriers, and may depict their licensed area
rather than an approximation of their coverage. Actual coverage area may
differ substantially from map graphics, and coverage may be affected by
such things as terrain, weather, foliage, buildings and other
construction, signal strength, customer equipment and other factors.
AT&T does not guarantee coverage. Charges will be based on the location
of the site receiving and transmitting the call, not the location of the
subscriber. Your phone's display does not indicate the rate you will be
charged.

I hope that the information provided has been helpful and has resolved
all of your questions. If you need further assistance, feel free to
reply to this e-mail or contact customer service at 1-800-331-0500 or
611 from your wireless phone.

I encourage you to visit our web site (www.att.com/wireless) often to
view current and previous monthly statements, make payments and to shop
for new product and service offerings. Thank you for allowing AT&T to
serve as your wireless company. We will do our best to ensure that your
wireless experience is a success.

Sincerely,

Leigh Ann Cook
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Original Message Follows:
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A2:when are the coverage maps going to be updated? it's now 10/17/2007
and the last time it was updated was 5/31/07. Any ideas? Thanks.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Generally speaking, updates to network coverage and other information
will take place each business quarter. Additional updates may be added
if the need arises. In the event significant changes have not occurred,
information may not be updated during the business quarter. I apologize
for any inconvenience or misunderstanding the may have occurred.

Ummm... we're approaching 2 quarters gone (May was the last update). During the time from May to August, a HUGE part of So-Cal was deployed, and it doesn't show.

Posted by: ilvla2

Yep, and a HUGE part of NorCal wasn't deployed, but it does show

Okay, I was told they installed more capacity in the Sacramento switch, and it will come in the near future to MAYBE Redding or Chico, but that's it. Verizon is running rings around AT&T in the 3G game in NorCal, they will have almost all of NorCal with EVDO by the end of the year, AT&T hasn't moved theirs north past Larkspur, Napa or Larkspur or east of Cameron Park in ages, Edge will have theirs up (and Edge does have it up in parts of OR and SE ID, and soon here in NorCal) long before AT&T does.

Posted by: Portables

Richmond, VA and Hampton Roads area in VA area rolling out starting on 11/12. Should add that to your map.

Posted by: zephxiii

i'll probably have this updated just over a week from now as i'm in the process of moving and going out of town for thanks giving. i wonder how much more blueer the map will look ;-)

Posted by: bobolito

Quote:

Originally Posted by myke81

Important Information About the Coverage Map: Map may include areas
served by unaffiliated carriers, and may depict their licensed area
rather than an approximation of their coverage. Actual coverage area may
differ substantially from map graphics, and coverage may be affected by
such things as terrain, weather, foliage, buildings and other
construction, signal strength, customer equipment and other factors.
AT&T does not guarantee coverage. Charges will be based on the location
of the site receiving and transmitting the call, not the location of the
subscriber. Your phone's display does not indicate the rate you will be
charged.

This is sad. He just repeated the same thing that's in the coverage map's fine print. LOL!

Posted by: myke81

i love customer service. they told me in an email basically the same disclaimer for lack of better information. they gave me a half a$$ed answer which is very typical.

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

Yep, and a HUGE part of NorCal wasn't deployed, but it does show

But they do have Reno, Carson City, and Tahoe covered now, and Edge Wireless 3G to boot

Posted by: ilvla2

Yeah we do, woot woot! lol Right now, Edge's 3G stops about 2 miles south of me, but it's getting closer by the week, it sure makes EDGE speeds seem pokey heh

A lot of the AT&T areas in NorCal are waiting for TDMA and AMPS to be shut off in Feb of 2008, I am told a ton of 3G will start being turned up once that happens, as they've already got the capacity and sites ready to go

Edge shut off their TDMA this summer, so I would imagine that is why they are starting to turn 3G up, all that spectrum and capacity freed up with TDMA going bye bye.

Edit-So far, Edge Wireless HSDPA is live in the Ukiah area here in NorCal (confirmed and used by yours truly), and I would imagine in Eureka, and maybe Crescent City and Yreka, and people have confirmed it on in Southern Oregon and Southeastern Idaho, no word on Jackson, WY, but I bet it is there (gotta get the richies and Darth Cheney their 3g

Posted by: zephxiii

Maps updated (in original post), old maps are here (May 31, 2007):

(Note: IE can't load the full size image, so view in firefox, or right click Save As)

Old Maps:
Full Size:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old5-07/att3gfull5-31-07.gif

Med:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old5-07/att3gmed5-31-07.gif

Small:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old5-07/att3gsmall5-31-07.gif

Posted by: zephxiii

I noticed puerto rico got a huge 3G expansion, nice.

Posted by: formercanuck

Now you just have to update that big map

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Now you just have to update that big map

what where? i did

(original post)

Posted by: brooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

Edit-So far, Edge Wireless HSDPA is live in the Ukiah area here in NorCal (confirmed and used by yours truly),

Any word on Santa Rosa?

Posted by: formercanuck

My bad... I'm reading between the lines

Posted by: domchristopher

Where are people confirming Edge Wireless 3g coverage? I can't find anything of hofo. I live in 97470 (Oregon) and would love 3g.....

Posted by: ilvla2

It's live with Edge Wireless here in the Ukiah, CA area, Ukiah is about 105 miles north of San Francisco here in Mendocino County. I live in Redwood Valley, about 8 miles north of Ukiah, the 3G stops about 2 miles south of me, but it's getting closer!

In Oregon, somebody on here (I can't remember who) said Edge has 3G live there in Roseburg, and it has been confirmed in Southeast Idaho, in Idaho Falls and Pocatello for sure. It's not eveywhere yet, so it's very possible you're in an area of Roseburg where it isn't live.

Edit-Keep in mind, Edge hasn't officially announced it yet, right now they are in the deployment and testing stages. It is nice getting 1.02 mbps though, and once they finish tweaking it I expect even better speeds

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by brooke

Any word on Santa Rosa?

I haven't heard any, I know AT&T is going to be doing some MAJOR turn up of 3G in NorCal after TDMA and AMPS gets shut off in Feb of 2008. Edge Wireless (AT&T Affiliate) shut off their TDMA this summer, and they never had to worry about AMPS as they are 1900 only.

Posted by: domchristopher

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

It's live with Edge Wireless here in the Ukiah, CA area, Ukiah is about 105 miles north of San Francisco here in Mendocino County. I live in Redwood Valley, about 8 miles north of Ukiah, the 3G stops about 2 miles south of me, but it's getting closer!

In Oregon, somebody on here (I can't remember who) said Edge has 3G live there in Roseburg, and it has been confirmed in Southeast Idaho, in Idaho Falls and Pocatello for sure. It's not eveywhere yet, so it's very possible you're in an area of Roseburg where it isn't live.

Edit-Keep in mind, Edge hasn't officially announced it yet, right now they are in the deployment and testing stages. It is nice getting 1.02 mbps though, and once they finish tweaking it I expect even better speeds

There's another hofo'er in roseburg? That's amazing! Too bad I can't test to see if I have 3g at $10.24 a mb. I'll have to find out somehow...

Posted by: psycho-

also carson city...

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...son_City_NV.pdf

Posted by: zephxiii

bout the only way of doing it is by photoshoping it in by hand. kinda disappointing they aren't on the map. i will give it a shot and see what i can do

Posted by: psycho-

Thanks...awesome zephxiii. You're doing good work.

Posted by: bikemanj7

wow im so happy to see tahoe on the map!

Posted by: mindfoo

Quote:

Originally Posted by brooke

Any word on Santa Rosa?

I'm getting 3G symbol and speeds of around 800kbps at my office on Dutton ave. in santa rosa today.

Posted by: brooke

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindfoo

I'm getting 3G symbol and speeds of around 800kbps at my office on Dutton ave. in santa rosa today.

Yowza! Thanks for that. I was hoping it was running, even though officially it isn't until later this year. Where else do you get a 3G signal? Maybe easier, where *don't* you? Thanks for the info.

Posted by: George Knighton

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho-

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...ort_News_VA.pdf
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...Richmond_VA.pdf

These maps were very encouraging!

Do we know anything about when the DC/NoVA coverage will move southward into the populated areas of Prince William, or into the home counties like Culpeper?

Yeah, yeah, I know: Fat chance.

Posted by: Kevad007

The AT&T National Coverage Viewer Maps were updated again and are now available with the date of 12/10/07. Wow 2 months in a row, they must of hired a competent employee finally?

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...441&sci=7&3g=t&

Posted by: zephxiii

Old 10-31-07:

Old 10-31-07 maps:

Full:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old10-31-07/att3gfull.gif

Medium:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old10-31-07/att3gmed.gif

Small:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old10-31-07/att3gsmall.gif

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevad007

The AT&T National Coverage Viewer Maps were updated again and are now available with the date of 12/10/07. Wow 2 months in a row, they must of hired a competent employee finally?

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverag...441&sci=7&3g=t&

No, they just hired someone who can color! The new maps are no accurate, not even close!

Posted by: formercanuck

What has changed is the former CellOne/Dobson areas. Check northern Michigan - it shows AT&T native vs. roaming.

Posted by: ilvla2

I'm sure it'll change for Edge Wireless areas in the coming months as well. They do have 3G live in the Ukiah area, and in parts of Southern Oregon and Southeastern Idaho, hopefully that is shown too.

Posted by: Interex

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Knighton

These maps were very encouraging!

Do we know anything about when the DC/NoVA coverage will move southward into the populated areas of Prince William, or into the home counties like Culpeper?

Yeah, yeah, I know: Fat chance.

I'm seeing signs of 3G in the Lorton Virginia Area, it doesn't seem to be completely up yet. However it seems to be for testing as it pops in for a few hours every night and the speed tests are showing about 800k.

Posted by: George Knighton

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interex

Every once in a rare while I will end up on Route 1 having to make a trip from the Potomac Mills area past Fort Belvoir and then into Alexandria, and then back again. (This avoids some Interstate rush hour issues that I am sure you're aware of.)

When I do this, I notice that I am up to the Beltway before I get 3G.

However, when I am heading south from the installation, I will notice that I hold onto 3G until I am close to the are you just mentioned!

I guess there's hope after all.

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interex

Around what hours do you usually see it? I might have to fire up my v3xx and keep a lookout for our area, a market like hours will hopefully get it soon, I've seen 3G in smaller markets on the map.

Posted by: George Knighton

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephxiii

Around what hours do you usually see it? I might have to fire up my v3xx and keep a lookout for our area, a market like hours will hopefully get it soon, I've seen 3G in smaller markets on the map.

It might sound silly, but I believe that the early build out of GSM might have hurt us.

They already went through an early build out that includes dual coverage with both 850 and 1900, and then they went through that consolidation with the (old) AT&T network and the Suncom network...so I think we're looking at so many arrays that it's confusing for them and clearly expensive to do it all at once.

We're paying the price now for being on the cutting EDGE (ha ha) a few years ago.

I've made the drive at various times of day and the symptoms are always the same! :-)

Posted by: zephxiii

Then throw LTE into the mix...they'll still be operating 3 different technologies, at least hopefully, as TDMA should be completely gone by then. Still though, its a lot better than buying Nextel

Posted by: SHoTTa35

TDMA will be gone by the time LTE comes, TDMA will be gone in February 18, 2008 as well as Anolog so they'll have lots of spectrum now to push 3G into. They can run GSM in 1900 for all i care then switch 3G to 850

Posted by: psycho-

Actually...that is my hope...come Feb 19, 2008, the US will suddenly have an explosion of UMTS 850 coverage. My hope is that come feb 18, all the 3G equipment will be in place to turn on the next day in all the towers and closets.

But regardless, the coverage is promised to cover 200million POPs by mid-year 2008. That would call for a massive push.

Posted by: i0wnj00

Unlikely, that will happen given that they have to remove all the old stuff, test it out to make sure interference from other sites in kept to a minimum, ensure that there enough specturm for GSM/EDGE, and meets other benchmarks for full deployment. etc..

Then there are other external/internal factors that AT&T can't control or forsee that could impede mass deployment, even if they promise coverage by mid 2008. And if they can't find the minimum needed for UMTS on their cellular licenses for a given MTA/BTA then will have to wait for LTE and just go for GSM/EDGE in the meantime. Anything can happen before now and then.

Posted by: autumninchicago

Zephxiii, Thanks so much for doing this!! Awesome job!

It's so easy to see the 3G coverage on at&t now.

I'm hoping they really speed things up for 3G roll-out in 2008. Their CEO said by mid-2008, their 3G coverage will be about the same as VZW and Sprint. Let's hope so.

After more than 2 years, I'm ready to switch back to at&t sometime in 2008 from VZW as long as they keep improving their 3G coverage.

Posted by: psycho-

Quote:

Originally Posted by i0wnj00

Unlikely, that will happen given that they have to remove all the old stuff, test it out to make sure interference from other sites in kept to a minimum, ensure that there enough specturm for GSM/EDGE, and meets other benchmarks for full deployment. etc..

Then there are other external/internal factors that AT&T can't control or forsee that could impede mass deployment, even if they promise coverage by mid 2008. And if they can't find the minimum needed for UMTS on their cellular licenses for a given MTA/BTA then will have to wait for LTE and just go for GSM/EDGE in the meantime. Anything can happen before now and then.

Actually, it's pretty easy using the modern network planning tools to actually have a 3G network up and ready in the cabinets w/o actually turning it on. The equpiment just needs to be in place while the old stuff gets removed after shutoff. The only limiting factor is space for the equipment and antenna.

If you think about it; attms recent 3G network deployments actually only had a couple of hours worth of "testing" before it went live in their respective markets...and we're talking about dozens to hundreds of towers in each new coverage area.

If attms was aggressive in their 3G rollouts in large and medium MSAs and RSAs (as the FCC auctioned off Metro Statistical areas and Rural service areas in their licensing schemes for cellular service as well as PCS blocks), they can have all the equipment ready.

The faster you can get your 3G-enabled customers onto CDMA-based systems, the sooner you can free up your spectrum. CDMA efficiency is something that the CDMA-based providers have been able to enjoy for years, and I think attms wants to reap at least some of the benefits of spectral efficiency.

So with that in mind, it's not entirely unbelievable

Posted by: Interex

I'm showing 3G now live in Occoquan, parts of Woodbridge, and Lorton, Virginia and have had it for most of the day. Looks like they have begun flipping the switches on that big 3G push. Merry Christmas from AT&T I suppose.

Posted by: Slilock

Just got 3G in Spokane, Washington!

Posted by: EtherealRemnant

Looking on that map, what is at&t's native coverage? The orange? The rest is roaming coverage, right?

I ask that because from the way it looks, at&t has really bad coverage in most of Colorado.

Posted by: Jayden0606

I'm a bit pissed off as I recently, since June (when I got the iPhone) got me a BJ II and noticed that every town around me has 3G service in Bergen County, NJ except mine. Even in my g/fs town, she has 3G.

I can't wait until I get 3G service in my area. I hope it gets here in time for the 3G iPhone.

Posted by: Skuzz

What is really pathetic, is that this coverage map isn't even accurate. Their GSM network shows signal quality on the maps, their 3G overlay map just shows areas where there should theoretically be 3G coverage.

Out here in Santa Clara, their map shows I have full coverage at my house, all the way to work, at work, etc.

In reality I get no 3G service at all at home, and barely a few bars at work.

Downright pathetic.

Your map is awesome though! Props!

Posted by: formercanuck

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuzz

What is really pathetic, is that this coverage map isn't even accurate. Their GSM network shows signal quality on the maps, their 3G overlay map just shows areas where there should theoretically be 3G coverage.

Out here in Santa Clara, their map shows I have full coverage at my house, all the way to work, at work, etc.

In reality I get no 3G service at all at home, and barely a few bars at work.

Downright pathetic.

Your map is awesome though! Props!

Here in Santa Clarita, its fairly accurate, however, they have turned up the site by Sams Club in (Golden Valley parkway/Soledad Canyon), which fills that hole in the middle on Santa Clarita (91355).

Posted by: Skuzz

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Here in Santa Clarita, its fairly accurate, however, they have turned up the site by Sams Club in (Golden Valley parkway/Soledad Canyon), which fills that hole in the middle on Santa Clarita (91355).

I wonder if I can put an "it" in my city name and it'll give me better 3G

Posted by: WeatherPilot

Has anyone gotten a decent signal outside the areas for 3G to prove at&t's 3G map wrong?

Posted by: zephxiii

I have, i forced my v3xx to 3G when i was leaving toledo, heading west on 80/90, i think i was able to pull 8 miles from the est. location of the cell site i was connecting to. I have it all written in a previous post somewhere, don't know where exactly at the moment. Could be somewhere in the big 3G expansion thread

Posted by: WeatherPilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephxiii

I have, i forced my v3xx to 3G when i was leaving toledo, heading west on 80/90, i think i was able to pull 8 miles from the est. location of the cell site i was connecting to. I have it all written in a previous post somewhere, don't know where exactly at the moment. Could be somewhere in the big 3G expansion thread

Do you think that using an external antenna could force a phone to get 3g even farther?

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeatherPilot

Do you think that using an external antenna could force a phone to get 3g even farther?

hell yea it would, itl boost the signal strength from further away, allowing the phone to hold on longer.

Posted by: psycho-

Darn...when you post in this thread, I'm left hoping you updated something...alas you didn't..

Posted by: WeatherPilot

Quote:

Originally Posted by zephxiii

hell yea it would, itl boost the signal strength from further away, allowing the phone to hold on longer.

That's good to know. Though, I'd hate to deal with an extra wire now, but I'll live with it.

Posted by: Skuzz

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeatherPilot

Has anyone gotten a decent signal outside the areas for 3G to prove at&t's 3G map wrong?

How about not getting ANY signal INSIDE of AT&T's alleged 3G coverage area?

According to their ridiculous map I should have full signal on 3G where I am, instead, I can barely pull 2 bars of EDGE. No 3G to be seen.

Gotta love those liars. The maps are not at all accurate.

Santa Clara 3G sucks.

Posted by: celluser7

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

You should do a comparison with Verizon's EVDO, it makes that look even sadder, and downright morbid for NorCal. By the first part of next year, ALL of Verizon's markets will have EVDO, what is AT&T's schedule, next century?

I agree, Verizon's EVDO coverage makes ATT's 3G coverage look like Metro PCS's voice coverage...
AT&T's schedule... next century.. prob so..!!

Posted by: celluser7

Quote:

Originally Posted by petard

That is pretty sad, no wonder they only allow 3G viewing at the city level!

U took the words out of my mouth..!!

That is to make their 3G coverage look better that what it is.. Go to verizon, it shows the nations EVDO in one shot...!!!

Posted by: celluser7

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobolito

160 zip codes..... is what they meant to write. Oh man im on a roll here.

Posted by: zephxiii

Maps updated in OP.

Old maps from 12-07 here:

Large:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old12-07/att3gfull.gif

Medium:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old12-07/att3gmed.gif

Small:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old12-07/att3gsmall.gif

Note:

Some areas still aren't on the map, like albany, buffalo, D.C. area expansion etc. expect an update soon for those.

Posted by: zephxiii

Also check out this density image for fun:

Link: http://www.xti9.com/att/density90.gif

Posted by: celluser7

AT&T's 3G in blue....

Verizon's version of 3G in blue...

Sprints version of 3G in orange

Amazing how att has the smallest footprint in 3G yet they have the most customers..

Posted by: blkballoon925

Quote:

Originally Posted by celluser7

AT&T's 3G in blue....

Verizon's version of 3G in blue...

Sprints version of 3G in orange

Amazing how att has the smallest footprint in 3G yet they have the most customers..

Not surprising, Verizon only has 10 MHz (PCS F) in my area. AT&T has the fastest 3G here AFAIK. Sprint has had the older revision of EVDO here forever, though. Verizon has never had EVDO here, even though they regularly promote services like vCast at their stores.

Posted by: Skuzz

Yeah that was always cool before the market I originally lived in had EVDO.

The sales reps would always go, "but hey, when you drive the 2 hour drive down to Detroit you'll have EV-DO!"

Because, you know I want to drive 2 hours just to watch some crappy 45 second clips of video at 12FPS...

Posted by: celluser7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuzz

Because, you know I want to drive 2 hours just to watch some crappy 45 second clips of video at 12FPS...

^ lmao, maybe it it was 30 fps... then i might think about it.... NOT...

Posted by: JRM

FYI those maps are already outdated, AT&T publicly announced they will purchace EDGE wireless in a few months www.edgewireless.com and edge has ALOT of 3G up and running, and not just HSDPA, its HSUPA!

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRM

FYI those maps are already outdated, AT&T publicly announced they will purchace EDGE wireless in a few months www.edgewireless.com and edge has ALOT of 3G up and running, and not just HSDPA, its HSUPA!

Well, that's really wonderful if you happen to need any of Edge Wireless' limited 4 regions "southern Oregon, northern California, southeastern Idaho and Jackson, Wyoming". For the rest of us that makes absolutely NO difference whatever. (location quote directly from Edge's site)

Posted by: ilvla2

They aren't "limited" in size, in fact, they probably cover more territory than most of the Northeastern US put together

JRM and I both live in Edge Wireless territory, him in Southern Oregon and me in Northwestern California. Out here in the west, territory covered is much more important than population covered, especially in the rural areas.

I know though, not everyone can live in the beautiful areas Edge covers

Posted by: Skuzz

That's insane, a wireless provider that actually covers AREA!?!??!!?

YOU LIE!!

That's like AT&T's claim to "more bars in more places" being based on POPs, because there is NO way in Hell they can possibly be true to that claim nationwide.

As much as I want to like them, Verizon ALWAYS wins for traveling, I can't remember one time in my travels between the east coast and west coast where AT&T worked and Verizon didn't.

However the reverse has always been true.

I hope with the AMPS shutoff on 2/18 (RIP AMPS...) AT&T can finally put some truth behind their claims instead of just claiming coverage via POPs.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuzz

As much as I want to like them, Verizon ALWAYS wins for traveling, I can't remember one time in my travels between the east coast and west coast where AT&T worked and Verizon didn't.

:

Come up here, I can show you areas Verizon is dead, but Edge Wireless works

Verizon does have automatic, in-market roaming into US Cellular in this market (RSA 344, Mendocino and Lake Counties-NW CA) and all markets in NorCal where both USCC and VZ have service, which helps, and now regular phones can use data while roaming on USCC's network as opposed to just data devices. US Cellular is the coverage leader in this area, followed by Edge, then Verizon and then Metro PCS.

There is ONE place in Mendocino County where VZ works and nobody else does, that's in Gualala (pronounced Gwall-all-ah), a tiny town on our coast, but that's it.

Posted by: MCFADONNA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skuzz

That's insane, a wireless provider that actually covers AREA!?!??!!?

YOU LIE!!

Well i drive for a living and the exact opposite has been true with my experience. Plenty of times running up and down I-25 ive had a chance to poke a lil fun at Verizon customers saying " It must be the network " wile im talking to someone on my Unlocked SE . They stare at their Verizon bought phone with no signal. Same thing wile Traveling from California to Louisiana . I had this guy so pissed cause im talkin away and his is in and out the hole trip. He asked a few times to use my phone as i smile back and say " It must be the Network "

I would imagine that Verizon has its great spots where AT&T has very lil or no signal. But i havent found that spot yet. And im on the road daily. Keep in mind my phone is unlocked/unbranded and i am able to manually roam when there is no AT&T. Both want the claim of best network but in MY case AT&T has been outstanding.

Posted by: stoutmen

I have both too. In NY, Verizon wins the battle of coverage. I guess it all depends on where you live. In the northeast corridor, Mossberger of WSJ said Verizon is best for coverage. I still like my ATT phones the best though!

Posted by: celluser7

here is the bottom line...
u have the top 2 providers att & verizon. none are gonna be equal. none are gonna have the same coverage and none have the same hi speed coverage. this is obvious and common sense..!!
what is obvious and common sense is that one of the providers will dominate (whether thats voice & data or voice / data) over the other in a select city period..!
what i can tell u is that verizon has more broadband coverage than att does. att has more global coverage than verizon does. now which has more HOME tower coverage beats me..
ive never had any ambition to cross over to verizon and i prob wont. where i work, live and play att covers me very well and i cant complain..

Posted by: dkhomdds

Can someone who has better access get a new map of Nassau County in New York. There has been some recent changes and more 3G in areas that were not a few weeks ago.

AT&T website has 12/10/2007 maps there are 1/19/2008 maps here, and would like to know the foot print for the current 3G deployment here in Nassau county, New York (zip code 11542 or 11756 for example)

TIA

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoutmen

I have both too. In NY, Verizon wins the battle of coverage. I guess it all depends on where you live. In the northeast corridor, Mossberger of WSJ said Verizon is best for coverage. I still like my ATT phones the best though!

Would that be NYC or NY state? Everything works in NYC, but NY state is too large to make generalized statements. Cause we already had Verizon, and I wouldn't ever say it won any coverage awards. That's why we got rid of it - couldn't hold any calls. ATT plans are more fair than Verizon's.

Posted by: walkguru

Wirelessly posted (Walkguru's: LG-CU515/V1.0c Obigo/Q05A Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 UP.Link/6.3.1.17.0)

not that much 3g coverage.

Posted by: S12dxer

Looks like Edge Wireless has 3G up in the North Bend/Coos Bay area. Don't know when they turned it up, but it wasn't there a month or so ago.

Edge is working pretty aggressively to turn up 3G in quite a few of their areas. Will be nice for AT&T once they take over.

Posted by: ilvla2

Edge Wireless has 3G live in Ukiah (about 8 miles south of me) here in Northwestern California too, though it's been live in Ukiah for several months now. The AT&T buyout of Edge is set to close at the end of May, so hopefully they'll turn some more up before then.

Posted by: Yankees368

Check out the maps, they were updated today. Lots of new areas were added.

Posted by: formercanuck

Glitch in coverageviewer found
Try entering in Jonesboro, VA and select '3G'
The same with Beech Grove, VA
3G coverage in the boonies where there isn't even GSM service (some in Beech grove)

Posted by: Skuzz

Yeah that 3G coverage indicator is definitely inaccurate to begin with - it only masks over existing areas of coverage with solid blue instead of showing true signal.

Or maybe Jonesboro is on a really high area and somehow picks up 3G service from 80 miles away? lol.

Probably faster for AT&T to lie right now and just overlay existing maps with 3G where it "should" work, and then they can just go back and update the topography with actual usable data after they convert the whole network.

So basically sometime in 2029 when the rest of the world's already on 5G or 6G.

Posted by: zephxiii

Coverage map updated, let me know if you found something i missed (3G).

Old map here:

Fullsize (IE users right click, Save As):
http://www.xti9.com/att/old1-18-08/att3gfull.gif

Medium (For IE Users):
http://www.xti9.com/att/old1-18-08/att3gmed.gif

Posted by: psycho-

as always, great job. any notable changes there?

Posted by: locust43

Quote:

Originally Posted by psycho-

as always, great job. any notable changes there?

What's not listed is that 3G in Central Alabama has been expanded much more than the map shows. And Huntsville, Alabama does have confirmed 3G Service.

Posted by: zephxiii

Thanks, ATT is usually slow at updating the map. The main changes are NYC Long Island expansion, 6 NY markets were added, coverage expansion in MD, and Salem Oregon.

Posted by: formercanuck

Minor addition of Castic in So-Cal.. not much to add, wouldn't be really noticable on the map anyways.
There's a lot of 'upstate' NY not shown either (Buffalo, Albany, Syracuse, Rochester, Watertown, Ithaca)

Posted by: flaminmonkeybut

it also looks like all of I-280 is covered now

Posted by: m_thrizzle

Right now my phone's browser won't connect to the internet, saying "Service Unavailable". I am in Sunnyvale, CA using an LG CU405 phone. Anyone else getting this? It worked 3 hours ago.

EDIT: It's working again. I am having a problem getting to Gmail Mobile webpage though, the page is blank. Check out my thread here . Thanks.

Posted by: formercanuck

I don't see any _real_ difference in CA.
Even the areas that have been covered (Fillmore, Santa Paula) still show GSM vs. 3G. Edge Wireless hasn't been updated for AT&T either.

Posted by: modred

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

I don't see any _real_ difference in CA.
Even the areas that have been covered (Fillmore, Santa Paula) still show GSM vs. 3G. Edge Wireless hasn't been updated for AT&T either.

My Sister's house in Costa Mesa, CA was shown on the 1/31/08 maps as being in a 3G area. The new maps show it as NOT being in a 3G area. The 3G coverage at her house was pretty marginal, so I think the change was a reasonable change.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by formercanuck

Edge Wireless hasn't been updated for AT&T either.

They haven't updated the maps for Edge Wireless for any of their area (CA,OR,ID,WY), Edge has HSDPA here in Mendocino County (Ukiah, Talmage, Calpella, parts of Redwood Valley), in Lake County (Lakeport, Lower Lake, Clearlake, Clearlake Oaks, Lucerne), and in Humboldt County (Fortuna, Eureka, Arcata (including HSU), McKinleyville and Blue Lake), in Oregon (Roseberg), and in Idaho (Pocatello, Idaho Falls, Rexburg), those are the areas I have personally been able to confirm anyway.

Edit-I feel lucky to have had Edge Wireless in this area, if this was an original AT&T area I'd still be wating for 3G

Verizon has this area up with EVDO now too, in fact, they have most of the state with EVDO now.

Posted by: zephxiii

http://www.xti9.com/att/old1-31-08/att3gsupersmall.gif

Full:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old1-31-08/att3gfull.gif

Med:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old1-31-08/att3gmed.gif

Small:
http://www.xti9.com/att/old1-31-08/att3gsmall.gif

Posted by: autumninchicago

Thanks for the continues update on this zephxiii! Looks like at&t is working but I'm not sure it's the pace they needed to catch up with 3G coverage of VZW and Sprint by the middle of the year like their CEO have promised.

One thing I noticed compare this new one to older ones, even ones from early 2007: When native at&t coverage (in dark orange) seems to have shrank a lot?!?!

Posted by: zephxiii

I've noticed that it varies everytime they update. In some areas, the dark orange has grown compared to last map (around Sioux City IA), and places like Rapid City SD lost native coverage...lol. I've noticed some 3G areas have grown slightly, like in FL.

Posted by: i0wnj00

1.) I noticed that a few cities like Rapid City, Bismarck, and Minot lost coverage.
2.) Looks like AT&T closed the gap that existed along upper part of the Chesapeake Bay where the Amtrak lines run in the MD/DE state line area. The 95 from Boston to D.C. looks solid dark blue to me.

Gripes/nit-picks:
1.) Lets hope AT&T fixes the "short gap" of 3G between Arkon-Youngstown-Pittsburgh.
This is just an example, but there are other places with 3G "short gaps".

2.) Park City, UT: Still no 3G from AT&T? Unbelievable.

Posted by: autumninchicago

Yeah, that's weird...

Posted by: BeBo00

the blue is the best coverage correct?

Posted by: zephxiii

Blue means 3G coverage, Dark orange means best coverage.

Posted by: BeBo00

oh, ok. So dallas and its suburbs should be good

Posted by: formercanuck

I had very good coverage in North Dallas/Plano last year when I visited.

Posted by: S12dxer

Edge Wireless now has 3G HSDPA in Brookings, Coos Bay/North Bend, and most of their section of the I-5 Corridor in Oregon (Grants Pass to Drain). This is not reflected on the maps either.

Posted by: formercanuck

Few not on maps... but PDF (taken from page source

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by S12dxer

Edge Wireless now has 3G HSDPA in Brookings, Coos Bay/North Bend, and most of their section of the I-5 Corridor in Oregon (Grants Pass to Drain). This is not reflected on the maps either.

I believe it's on in Roseburg as well. Here in NorCal, they have it in Mendocino, Lake and Humboldt Counties, and it's on in the Pocatello, Twin Falls, Idaho Falls and Rexburg areas in Southeastern Idaho.

Posted by: weatherwoodchuc

I think the coverage viewer was recently updated. It is dated 4/30/08 now. The 3g maps that were separate PDF's are now incorporated into the regular map.

Posted by: zephxiii

Maps updated in O.P., looks like 3g expansion marked in So Cal, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, Florida, Texas, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Alabama....can't wait for mine to be on there!!!!!

3-31-08 Maps

http://www.xti9.com/att/old3-31/att3gsupersmall.gif

Larger Sizes:

Small (1500 pixels wide) 211KB:
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Posted by: momcat1

The 4/30/08 maps aren't right either. I can confirm that Danbury, CT has full strength 3G service, yet there is nowhere near that showing on the map as 3G.

Posted by: sharksfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by momcat1

The 4/30/08 maps aren't right either. I can confirm that Danbury, CT has full strength 3G service, yet there is nowhere near that showing on the map as 3G.

When did Danbury go live? I hope that our area is right around the corner... I saw a couple of AT&T branded trucks in Poughkeepsie yesterday afternoon

Posted by: Highline

Can anyone confirm if there is any coverage (although not listed) in the Manchester, NH market?

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharksfan

When did Danbury go live? I hope that our area is right around the corner... I saw a couple of AT&T branded trucks in Poughkeepsie yesterday afternoon

I don't know cause they're not even showing it on the site anywhere. I was thinking exactly the same thing. Danbury isn't any bigger than Pok. Where did you see trucks?

Posted by: sharksfan

Quote:

Originally Posted by momcat1

Where did you see trucks?

Parked near the Kmart on Rt44. It looked like they were eating lunch.

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharksfan

Parked near the Kmart on Rt44. It looked like they were eating lunch.

Oh I do hope they were working on something, 3G or even just signal. That spot is horrible for signal dropping out in a call. Makes no sense either, cause there's towers close enough.

Maybe, just maybe they'll do something at Adam's too. It's OK across the street where they have an ATT store, but it drops in and out at the back of Adams something fierce. Fix that and my husband will stop complaining about it.

It sure wouldn't be landlines cause they have no prescence here.

Posted by: sharksfan

The signal issues in the area you describe are becasue AT&T is still operating 2 networks in the area (legacy AT&T and former Dobson). Your phone still looks for legacy AT&T first, and will stay connected even though a much stronger Dobson signal is available.

Posted by: dbaser

Nice mention in this story, zephxiii...

http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/06/...re-you-covered/

Posted by: zephxiii

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbaser

Nice mention in this story, zephxiii...

http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/06/...re-you-covered/

lol, nice

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharksfan

The signal issues in the area you describe are becasue AT&T is still operating 2 networks in the area (legacy AT&T and former Dobson). Your phone still looks for legacy AT&T first, and will stay connected even though a much stronger Dobson signal is available.

With the older phones you could manually change the network preference. Unfortunately, you can't do it with newer phones, which just feeds animosity towards ATT.

Posted by: SHoTTa35

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

the pages has been updated again. Let's see what they've added recently.

Without direct maps to compare back and forth, Reading, PA is the only area on the new maps i see (in the NE) that has some new 3G areas. Hopefully by the end of June we'll see a nice bigger swath of 3G all over

UMTS 850 anyone? I would certainly love it.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHoTTa35

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

the pages has been updated again. Let's see what they've added recently.

Without direct maps to compare back and forth, Reading, PA is the only area on the new maps i see (in the NE) that has some new 3G areas. Hopefully by the end of June we'll see a nice bigger swath of 3G all over

UMTS 850 anyone? I would certainly love it.

Yep, but it still shows former Edge Wireless (AT&T Affiliate merged into AT&T this year, see my links for more info on that) areas as partner, which is wrong, and it doesn't show any of the 3G up in those same Edge Wireless areas (like where I live). Hopefully they get it right soon

Posted by: Patrick G.

Yeah, that coverage viewer is totally worthless. It shows no 3G coverage in Springfield, MO, yet here it does.

Posted by: marshal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick G.

Yeah, that coverage viewer is totally worthless. It shows no 3G coverage in Springfield, MO, yet here it does.

That is because the 3G coverage in Springfield was just turned on within the past week. It will show up in the next update of the coverage viewer. It's usually updated about once a month. When that happens you will see the Springfield 3G coverage in the actual coverage viewer and the PDF will be taken down.

Posted by: zephxiii

They were just recently updated today, i kinda didn't want to do the 5/30/08 maps cuz i figured they would have been updated again shortly. I'll do this one though this weekend.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilvla2

Ditto on the June 30th maps.

Posted by: myke81

the suffolk county, ny (Long Island) PDF is updated showing 3G throughout the whole island and finally most of Monmouth County NJ. The document states that this coverage should be expected by 7/11.

Posted by: formercanuck

and today is.... 7/11

Posted by: npaladin2000

Who cares about Long Island? I wanna know when it's coming to the Hudson Valley!

Posted by: momcat1

Quote:

Originally Posted by npaladin2000

Who cares about Long Island? I wanna know when it's coming to the Hudson Valley!

I'll ditto that! Specially since they're now running 'extended coverage' commercials on the local radio. But we haven't seen any change. Same old spotty coverage.

Posted by: npaladin2000

Actually, I tend to get very good coverage. But it only becomes 3G when I get down to my office in southern Westchester.

Posted by: csrich

Has anyone heard of when 3G is supposed to hit Augusta GA? It was suppose to go live Sept 06. LOL

Posted by: i0wnj00

UT -
Parts of the Wasatch Back, St George, Logan are covered.
Coverage extended from Ogden to UT/ID line.
Coverage extended from Payson to Nephi.

WV-
Charleston, I-64 to KY/WV line and up I-77.

Posted by: gosc21

Quote:

Originally Posted by csrich

Has anyone heard of when 3G is supposed to hit Augusta GA? It was suppose to go live Sept 06. LOL

pretty sad the second largest city in Georgia doesn't have 3g yet

Posted by: intokkabire

So I thought some of you might like an updated coverage map.
I did my best to piece it together and then overlay it with the original map from back in April to identify the new 3G areas since them, shown in green.
Alaska and Hawaii are omitted since you can easily tell what has changed. Hawaii looks almost fully covered in 3G and Alaska seems to have none.

*zephxiii - feel free to put this on the first post if you like and if you care to share how you gathered the map drop me a PM, I would love to know. My method was pretty tedious.

Posted by: Highline

Awesome map! Thanks for posting!

Now we just need some green in New Hampshire

Posted by: sean.couture

and iowa..poor crappy state of iowa :[

Posted by: Highline

Got any corn?

:P

Posted by: intokkabire

Yea I hope the October timeline for NH comes true... I work near Nashua, but live in MA.

Posted by: momcat1

Now we just need the Hudson Valley to get 3G, or a least some more reliable signal.

Posted by: ilvla2

Quote:

Originally Posted by intokkabire

So I thought some of you might like an updated coverage map.
I did my best to piece it together and then overlay it with the original map from back in April to identify the new 3G areas since them, shown in green.
Alaska and Hawaii are omitted since you can easily tell what has changed. Hawaii looks almost fully covered in 3G and Alaska seems to have none.

*zephxiii - feel free to put this on the first post if you like and if you care to share how you gathered the map drop me a PM, I would love to know. My method was pretty tedious.

That map is still incorrect, it doesn't show the 3G up in former Edge Wireless areas, FYI Edge was an AT&T Affiliate bought out by and asorbed into AT&T this Spring. Here in Edge's NorCal markets there is 3G in Ukiah, Talmage, Calpella, parts of Redwood Valley, Lakeport, Clearlake, Lower Lake, Clearlake Oaks, Nice, Lucerne, Glenhaven, Fortuna, Eureka, Arcata, McKinleyville and Blue Lake, in Oregon there is 3G in Roseburg, North Bend, Coos Bay and Grants Pass, and in SE ID there is 3G in Pocatello, Blackfoot, Idaho Falls and Rexburg. Also, Edge's markets are still being shown as Partner, which is wrong, AT&T needs to update their maps.

Posted by: formercanuck

It doesn't have PDFs added for places like Yakima, WA, but its a good update, as its easy to pick out the differences between updates.

Posted by: zephxiii

Maps update, anyone care for the older ones?

Posted by: autumninchicago

sure, just to compare...

Thanks!

Posted by: flaminmonkeybut

props on the map