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Does 1.1.1 noticeably increase the speakerphone and receiver volume?
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Posted by: donm527

Decided to post on specific features mentioned in the update instead of putting it in the ever growing 1.1.1 topic going.

Anyways... iPhone owners... before and after... notice a significant increase in volume for speakerphone and receiver? Is the quality of voice/sound maintained, improved or reduced to get the volume increase?

Any chance that signal reception has been unofficially been improved after update?

Thanks,
Don

Posted by: Arden

this is the feature that interests me the most. and being that i'm at work then have class after i would be interested to see peoples responses to this, as i wont be getting home to update until 9pm tonight.

Posted by: Kazakaz

My phone with 1.1.1 sounded louder than my friends who is running 1.0.2

Posted by: WirelessAndy

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Originally Posted by Kazakaz

My phone with 1.1.1 sounded louder than my friends who is running 1.0.2

Did your own iPhone with 1.1.1 sound louder than it did with 1.0.x?

Posted by: duddy

Noticably loader?

Posted by: mjbanks

Mine isn't noticably louder at all after the update. However, after a restore to last weekend, it seemed louder

Posted by: jperonto

Both receiver and speaker phone is louder, at least as loud as my Blackjack.

Posted by: Pooner007

This is subjective but to me the receiver is only marginally louder, but still noticeable. The speaker seems quite a bit louder.

Posted by: dustboo

the receiver seems quite a bit louder to me-
i used to have to turn the volume up all the way, now only 3/4 at the most.
i'm quite happy :]

the speaker still sounds like ****...

Posted by: kaidomac

Mine seems no louder than before. Still terrible even at full volume

Posted by: Jung

not really noticeable. i will check it side-by-side when my gf comes over. she has the 1.0.2 firmware.

Posted by: mjbanks

I rebooted my iPhone and it's not much louder. I have the volume at about 1/3 of the way up, where it was 2/3 or more before.

Posted by: john1027

IMO, it is just slightly louder all around, but I'd still like to have it a little higher.

Posted by: BIGMERF

noticed nothing here

Posted by: kinderco

both seem louder here...thed speakerphone is only slightly louder still not as loud as i would like it. The ear piece is definately good now

Posted by: djdownhill

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Originally Posted by john1027

IMO, it is just slightly louder all around, but I'd still like to have it a little higher.

Concurred.

Posted by: That70sGAdawg

Not much improvement (if any) here either !
So we got another way to BUY, BUY BUY from Apple, and no "to do's", or Notes sync!
The coming AT&T 8925 (HTC Kaiser) might have to be looked at....

Posted by: turbo-sc

The loudness factor has been increased by at least 30% from the max loudness prior to update.

Speakerphone is loud as well too, probably same increase.

I had to volume down a few times when talking with the G/F, hurts the ears sometimes.

Posted by: cowboy1964

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Originally Posted by That70sGAdawg

The coming AT&T 8925 (HTC Kaiser) might have to be looked at....

Be sure you understand what battery life is like on the 8925. It appears to be pretty bad.

Posted by: calvinpesh

I notice an increase and considering how bad it was before, even this amount of volume increase really helps.

Posted by: Bloom

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Originally Posted by kaidomac

Mine seems no louder than before. Still terrible even at full volume

Agreed. Just did a side by side test at the Apple Store. Only one of their display phones had been updated to the new firmware, wheras the other ones were all still at the earlier release. Made 6 test calls; 3 on the updated model, and 3 on an older model. Earpiece volume sounded exactly the same on both as did the speakerphone. I'm curious as to how/why some people are reporting that their volume is now louder; placebo effect maybe? I didn't notice a difference at all.

What's interesting is that when you connect to the iTunes store on the updated iPhone, the music previews are VERY loud through the speaker; not sure why they can't get that same level of volume for phone conversations.

Posted by: scaredpoet

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Originally Posted by cowboy1964

Be sure you understand what battery life is like on the 8925. It appears to be pretty bad.

Not to mention, you'd be using Windows Mobile. And I'm sorry, but all kidding about Windows, Microsoft, and Bill gates aside, Windows Mobile can have some strange issues. it starts out wonderfully enough, but much like the bride you marry that steadily goes downhill after the honeymoon, everyone I know who's used Windows Mobiles swears that it starts to develop "quirks" and stability starts going downhill.

And if you're really that anoyed by the iTunes store, then just wait till you have to buy, buy buy those Windows Mobile apps!

If you really something other than an iPhone, get a Blackberry or wait for Palm's linux-based handheld.

Posted by: Gene Rayburn

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Originally Posted by Bloom

I'm curious as to how/why some people are reporting that their volume is now louder; placebo effect maybe? I didn't notice a difference at all.

It was mentioned in the changelist for the update

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/apple/ip...imbo-304497.php

point after Wi-Fi store is "louder speakerphone and receiver volume"

Posted by: cowboy1964

The difference between this update and the others is that Apple actually stated that they improved the volume in this update. Its interesting that some people say its better and some say its the same. The same thing happened with the other updates.

I think this is the last shot. If it hasn't actually improved then Apple has done all they can do. I'm (probably) not updating to 1.1.1 until the Installer app and iBrickr are working unless I can roll back to 1.0.2.

Posted by: kaidomac

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Originally Posted by Bloom

What's interesting is that when you connect to the iTunes store on the updated iPhone, the music previews are VERY loud through the speaker; not sure why they can't get that same level of volume for phone conversations.

Yeah my music previews are so loud that they sound distorted at max volume. And yet speakerphone calls sound terrible! My phone has no discernable difference; my wife said her phone was a teensy bit louder but not really at all.

Posted by: Bloom

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Originally Posted by kaidomac

I'm totally an Apple supporter in just about every other area of my digital life, but I'm not totally ready to swallow the cool-aid just yet with the iPhone, especially with this "volume increase".

I think a lot of the discrepancies ultimately come down to an individual's hearing, but at the same time, if you take two iPhones with older and newer firmware and conduct the same test I described earlier, you'll find there really isn't a discernable difference. Personally, I don't think anything has changed in the volume department with the exception of the blaring speakerphone when you preview music from iTunes. Both earpiece and speakerphone calls still sound low for my liking (especially the speakerphone). To bad there isn't a gain table hack for the iPhone like there is for the Moto Razr; that would be a great update for those of us who want more volume!!

Posted by: That70sGAdawg

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Originally Posted by cowboy1964

Be sure you understand what battery life is like on the 8925. It appears to be pretty bad.

Agreed, and it's a fat little brick that operates on Windows (crash) mobile..
But I was expecting a simple to do list and memo sync, like even a $99 palm pilot!!
Maybe when leopard is released, as it mentions memo
and to do "expanded use".

I'm just frustrated that all these "updates" (ringtones & now WiFi iTunes) seem to produce is more revenue stream for apple. I'm a (small) AAPL stockholder , but damn make the phone usable with some to do's and alarms we can hear!

Posted by: kamranwpi

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Originally Posted by Jung

not really noticeable. i will check it side-by-side when my gf comes over. she has the 1.0.2 firmware.

What about Bluetooth works stereo headset???

Posted by: MalachiConstant

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Originally Posted by Bloom

I'm totally an Apple supporter in just about every other area of my digital life, but I'm not totally ready to swallow the cool-aid just yet with the iPhone, especially with this "volume increase".

its "Kool-aid"

and its dang tasty

Posted by: mike772

To me everything is louder except speaker phone, the SMS ton is MUCH louder to me as well as the headset.

Posted by: ferniesp

I have noticed that the volume actually increases when it has to I activated my phone just for this update and trust me it is loud enough now.

Posted by: Rockky

Had the Kaiser for 4-5 days. Volume is worse...battery is pathetic

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Originally Posted by scaredpoet

If you really something other than an iPhone, get a Blackberry or wait for Palm's linux-based handheld.

Posted by: Rockky

yeah I have the chimes ringtone on SMS and it just went off .....scared me!
In call volume IS better..not by a lot......outer speaker barely better.but I think it IS better.

Posted by: ferniesp

As far as the low volume is concerned, it is a dead issue with me going forward. The volume( and I was one of the guys that complained daily about the volume) has been fixed! There is no question in my mind that it's louder. What I found interesting as I was driving, I received a call from my Wife. When I answered, her first words sounded pretty much the same and then I can hear her voice really kick into high gear. Kind of reminds me of an auto volume control. Anyhow, volume is very good now and the speakerphone still bites a bit.

PS: I sure feel sorry for the unlocked crowd! There are enough bricks out there to rebuild Rome.

Posted by: GTPj

yeah i agree the volume on the ear piece is way louder and i do believe that its some sort of auto volume??? went to a bar where i normally could not hear out of the phone and to my surprise i could hear whoo hoo!!! speaker phone volume is still crap!!

Posted by: mattsh

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Originally Posted by mjbanks

I rebooted my iPhone and it's not much louder. I have the volume at about 1/3 of the way up, where it was 2/3 or more before.

How are you running at 1/2 of the way? I have to have it all the way up!

Posted by: silvrb15

I never use the speakerphone, but it DOES sound much better than before. Before I would give the speaker a 1 out of 5, and now after update I think its like a 3.5 or 4 out of 5. Still could be louder, but I dont really care. =]

Posted by: FonGeek

It is amazing the differences people are reporting. One thing I noticed is that after the update the volume was not louder but when I went into the sound preferences my slider was at just under 50%. I always keep my volume full on. I am not sure if they increased the volume range so the slider was reduced or not. At any rate once I slid the slider up the volume increase was very noticeable.

Posted by: Arden

I didnt notice any difference at all in call volume, speakerphone, ringers. its still crap and speakerphone might as well not have been included because its completely useless. sms i cant hear unlesss i am in my room with everything off and absolutely no noise.

Posted by: davistld01

Although I liked the iPhone a lot, the vagueness of Apple's "updates" and upgrades, and the inconsistancies of improvements are a couple of reasons why I have stepped away from it...for at least the time being.

But, as fond of it as I am...I will probably get another one after the dust settles. Or...I might wait for the Gen-2 phone...and Apple as my service provider!!

Good luck with the 1.1.1 update, guys!!

Posted by: Bloom

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Originally Posted by FonGeek

It is amazing the differences people are reporting. One thing I noticed is that after the update the volume was not louder but when I went into the sound preferences my slider was at just under 50%. I always keep my volume full on. I am not sure if they increased the volume range so the slider was reduced or not. At any rate once I slid the slider up the volume increase was very noticeable.

I was under the impression that the sound preference slider only adjusted the audible alerts, i.e. ringer levels etc...are you saying this increased your earpiece volume as well??

Posted by: GTPj

you cant hear the sms alerts?? mine is so loud now using the chime alert...weird....

Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by Bloom

I was under the impression that the sound preference slider only adjusted the audible alerts, i.e. ringer levels etc...are you saying this increased your earpiece volume as well??

You are correct in your impression. The slider does not effect anything but audible alerts, ringer levels, etc.

I'm afraid that if the poster noticed an earpiece volume increase with the slider being moved from 50% to 100%...it is due to expectation and not fact.

No offense...

Posted by: Bloom

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Originally Posted by davistld01

That's kind of what I thought too. In my opinion, there really isn't a noticable earpiece or speakerphone volume increase, even after the update. I'm convinced it's a placebo more than anything else.

Posted by: krs71

speaker phone volume sucks.......didn't notice anything.

Posted by: soulweaponry

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Originally Posted by Bloom

That's kind of what I thought too. In my opinion, there really isn't a noticable earpiece or speakerphone volume increase, even after the update. I'm convinced it's a placebo more than anything else.

Exactly what i was thinking. People were saying the speakerphone sounded better in the last update too and i never noticed a damn thing. Sounded the exact same. I think people believe what they want to believe. Personally, i don't care. I use a bluetooth headset, so i'm good nomatter what. Update or not.

Posted by: ferniesp

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Originally Posted by krs71

speaker phone volume sucks.......didn't notice anything.

Replace the Iphone you have. I have been the most consistant person on this forum complaining about the volume from day one. I have spent countless hours complaing to Apple Support. I have gone through so many Iphones that I care to admit. In summary, the volume is for sure fixed. Believe me, I would know at this point.

Posted by: GTPj

wow you guys got broke phones or broke ears hahahaha...jk but yes the volume has been fixed, speaker phone wise no.....like i said went to a bar where i normally can't hear the other caller and was surprised that i was able to hear last night....

Posted by: Texasags

I have noticed an increase in the speaker volume for all sounds. It isn't huge, but it makes a difference. I use a local "time and temperature" recording to test; the volume of the second half of the recording is very low. Before, I could barely hear it, now it is very clear.

Like I said, it isn't twice as loud, but there is a real difference, at least for me...

Posted by: davistld01

Vagueness. Inconsistancy in performance and product. Those are the two reasons I am not currently an iPhone user after having four previously. When Apple releases updates that will address issues 100% across-the-board in every phone they produce...I may step up to the plate again.

I had almost turned the corner in becoming a fanboy...but two returns, and three replacements later...I have become disenchanted with Apples way of doing business.

I must say, I really loved the iPhone and it disappointed me to step away...but I need a solid performing, consistantly reliable mobile device. I don't have time to fart around returnng phone after phone, and being told that they can't fix it...but they can replace it, only to go through the process again with the new phone.

Gen-2...maybe.

Posted by: Fray Adjacent

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Originally Posted by ferniesp

Yeah, you're the guy that defined insanity by swapping out hardware when you KNEW a replacement wouldn't be any louder.

Bravo. You proved nothing.

On topic, I've only made one call since updating, but I was in a relatively quiet environment. I have yet to test it in a noiser environment. I hope it is loud enough, because that was the one functional flaw I saw in the phone.

Fixing everything else, and adding things like MMS will just be bonuses to me from now on.

Posted by: Texasags

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Originally Posted by davistld01

Vagueness. Inconsistancy in performance and product.

I must say, I really loved the iPhone and it disappointed me to step away...but I need a solid performing, consistantly reliable mobile device. I don't have time to fart around returnng phone after phone, and being told that they can't fix it...but they can replace it, only to go through the process again with the new phone.

Sorry you had such a bad experience. I couldn't be happier.

The iPhone is a very consistent performer for me. It has excellent phone capabilities, and I have yet to drop a call (I live in a rural area).

Posted by: chinese_fury

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Originally Posted by ferniesp

As far as the low volume is concerned, it is a dead issue with me going forward. The volume( and I was one of the guys that complained daily about the volume) has been fixed! There is no question in my mind that it's louder. What I found interesting as I was driving, I received a call from my Wife. When I answered, her first words sounded pretty much the same and then I can hear her voice really kick into high gear. Kind of reminds me of an auto volume control. Anyhow, volume is very good now and the speakerphone still bites a bit.

PS: I sure feel sorry for the unlocked crowd! There are enough bricks out there to rebuild Rome.

Ferniesp,

Oh don't worry about us unlocked iphone users, we will continue to enjoy all the 3rd party apps that Steve and Apple don't want you locked users to enjoy.

Posted by: wickcity

The ipod for me is louder but absolutely no difference on the phone part.