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Posted by: calvinpesh

As you all know, the knew update allows you to connect the iphone to a TV because of the new TV out option under settings. I was really really excited about this and wanted to hook it up to a TV right away only to realize that you need an AV cable that will actually "fit" the iphones output. So i went to the apple store and asked them if they have the iphone video cable and they told me that it would be available in a few weeks. Does anyone else know if there is another video cable that is available right now and works the iphone? Does the iPod video AV cable work with the iphone? Thanks.

Posted by: Cizan

What about the line out on the dock? Just guessing

Posted by: cowboy1964

Isn't it going to bea component video output (on the iPhone, not the dock)? That's gonna be a funky adapter.

Posted by: calvinpesh

is the line out on the dock that came with the iphone a video output?

Posted by: mattdnj

Just as you can "mod" existing headphones by shaving down the plastic around the jack to fit, it might be worth trying to do the same with the existing A/V cable.

I'll give it a shot when I get home tonight.

Posted by: rmadden

I think the line out on the dock is an audio out.

Posted by: bryanc

im confused, how do you set it up to come out on the tv? step by step?

Posted by: CrAkD

try using a regular camcorder cable thats how you do it on the ipods. just apple switches the colors i think red is video.

Posted by: calvinpesh

but does the video output come form the headphone jack or the plug at the bottom of the iphone? i beleive it came out of the headphone jack on the ipod.

Posted by: calvinpesh

UPDATE: i just tried plugging a regular video cable into the line out on the iphone dock and then hooking it up to my TV. i got some weird lines on the TV when i was playing the video, but no actual video. this may either be because the line out on the iphone dock isnt a video output, or maybe simply because only the apple AV cable will work which sux cuz they havent released it yet. but im still hopeful that someone will figure out a cable that works.

i have another suggestion to try: i dont personally own a apple IPOD AV video cable, but maybe someone who has an ipd does. try using the apple ipod video cable that worked with the ipod and see if it also works with the iphone. then we will atleast kno if it works.

and for anyone who is still wondering what im talking about, ill mention it again: in apples new update, version 1.1.1 for the iphone, there is know a video output setting under the settings menu. first go to the setting menu on the iphone, then go to ipod settings, and u will see a TV out setting that asks u if u want widescreen out regular TV out and also NTSC or PAL. im really excited that they brought this feature to the iphone and thats why im so eager to get it working! thanks everyone

Posted by: msk

i bet we'll see this soon: "the new video out dock coming soon to apple store near you"

...a new excuse for apple to sell another dock

Posted by: SVTVagabond

If you have older video cables from iPod, they will not work. They are making new ones for all the new iPods. They're forcing you to re-buy accessories for no reason at all.

Posted by: calvinpesh

so basically the put a new TV out feature in the iphone with this update, but currently we have no way of unsing it? that was pointless. the guy in the apple store told me it could be weeks before the new cables come out....

Posted by: SVTVagabond

They are available now on the apple website.

Posted by: johnjayb

Useless!!!!

Posted by: calvinpesh

but i thought those cables didnt work.....and i dont see an IPHONE video cable

Posted by: Mark Booth

This should be the cable you need:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...part=M9765G%2FB

It connects to the HEADPHONE jack. And it appears that it is ALREADY small enough in diameter to work with the iPhone.

Mark

Posted by: blaze6257

...but not shipping for weeks.

You need the new cables that will send video out from the 30-pin adapter.

Posted by: Marc_G

I just posted this over in the 1.1.1 upgrade thread:

Ok, here's an update on the TV Out option.

A while ago, I installed a charging + A/V kit in my car for a 5G iPod (video) that I used & loved dearly (until I bought the iPhone that is, then loved this one more

).
This kit allowed me to charge my iPod, and also provide sound & video signals to my Clarion head-unit (which has a 7" LCD screen), all through the dock connector on the iPod.

I've been using the same setup to connect my iPhone to my car, so it can charge and play tunes to my head-unit, which worked beautifully (in stereo).
I was hoping that, with the addition of the TV Out option in firmware 1.1.1, I could also watch my movies and video podcasts/music videos on the Clarion's LCD screen.

Alas, this still doesn't work after the upgrade - so it may very well be that the iPhone uses a different pin-out on the dock connector for video signals.

-Marc

Posted by: Marc_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Booth

This should be the cable you need:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...part=M9765G%2FB

It connects to the HEADPHONE jack. And it appears that it is ALREADY small enough in diameter to work with the iPhone.

Mark

I'll tell you why this cable won't work.

It is based on the assumption that you are connecting it to a 3.5mm (1/8-inch) headphone jack on one of the compatible the iPods, which has 4 pins: one for left audio, one for right audio, one for video, and one for common ground.

However, the iPhone's headphone jack ALREADY has 4 connectors: one for left audio, one for right audio, one for the mic, and one for common ground. This is how the standard headset that comes with the iPhone works to deliver your voice for phone calls, and stereo audio of the remote party for phone calls & music.

At this point, the only solution I see for video out on the iPhone is through the dock connector.
Unfortunately, as I just found out (see my post above), it seems that even the pin-out is different for video on the iPhone...

-Marc

Posted by: calvinpesh

Ok, so i just did an online chat with an apple online store representative and heres what she said:

Renee W: Would you like help with your shopping?

You: yes

Renee W: Thanks for waiting. I'll be right with you.

Renee W: Please go ahead with your question...

You: i noticed that the iphone now as a TV out option. i was wondering what cable i should buy to use for this new feature. i tried using some video cables i had at home with the iphone but i didnt see anything on the my tv. maybe only the apple video cables work with the iphone? if so which one should i buy?

Renee W: I'm happy to assist with that.

Renee W: I'm going to take a look in our store for the product.

Renee W: How are you liking your iPhone?

You: its awesome

Renee W: So glad to hear that.

Renee W: I found the cable that I believe you will need, I'm just going to double check it with one of our engineers to make certain.

You: thanks

Renee W: Just another minute...

Renee W: Ok, I'm going to send you a link to the cable you need.

You: k

Renee W: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB128LL/A

Renee W: Did that open ok for you?

You: yeah

You: thanx

Renee W: You're welcome.

You: but why doesnt it say its compatible with the iphone

Renee W: Are you ready to place your order? I can stand by for any questions. Once your order is complete, I'll confirm it in our database.

You: it sonly says it works with the ipod nano, classic, and touch

Renee W: Let me double check with someone else.

Renee W: Ok, it is compatible. If you go to the front page of the store, on the left side of the screen click iPhone accessories.

Renee W: Then cables and docks.

You: k

You: o, i see it now. is this something i can buy at an apple store though?

Renee W: I did confirm it with my supervisor also.

Renee W: I don't have inventory information for the Apple Retail stores. I would suggest contacting them directly.

You: k, ill call them now. thanx for your time

You: bye

Renee W: You're welcome.

Renee W: Thank you for visiting the Apple Store. We appreciate your business.

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So does anyone have this cable that she (and her supervisor) claim will work? if so could u please test it for us and see if it works? she also said that it is already available and is already in stores.

Posted by: MalachiConstant

Quote:

Originally Posted by SVTVagabond

They are available now on the apple website.

link please

Posted by: Airkat

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalachiConstant

link please

Been posted in the thread twice:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB128LL/A

as mentioned, it's 2-3 weeks out though.

Posted by: Marc_G

I just had a lengthy chat with an online representative as well, and to spare you the details, here is an additional product that she claimed would work with the iPhone (for those who don't have component in):

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB129LL/A

Posted by: hudbaby

This thread is a great example of why I come to this forum. Its pure entertainment!

The first half is shear terror and shock/ZOMG apple is the dumbest company on the planet! Just to be followed in the second half (so far) of people reposting the same info over and over.

The A/V setup has been on the Apple store for weeks, yet because it took using your brain and having to find information that wasn't being spoon fed to you, everyone did a face dive.

Good show HOFO!

Posted by: calvinpesh

i just bought the 30 pin AVI video cable and plugged it directly into my iphone and connected it to my TV, but it didnt work. then i tried connecting it through my dock, still didnt work. im convinced we need to wait for the new iphone AV cables that apple supposdely is releasing soon. just another way for them to make more money i guess....

still if anyone ever gets their iphone to play on a tv using any cable, please let us know here. thanks

Posted by: Marc_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

i just bought the 30 pin AVI video cable and plugged it directly into my iphone and connected it to my TV, but it didnt work. then i tried connecting it through my dock, still didnt work.

Thanks for reporting this.
Can you please let us know what the part number of the cable you tried was?

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc_G

Thanks for reporting this.
Can you please let us know what the part number of the cable you tried was?

Im not sure what the part number was becuase i already returned the cable. But it was the ipod 30 pin AV cable made by Monster. Im going to try calling apple and get to the bottom of this. ill keep u guys posted.

Posted by: walt1984

If you have an ipod dock you should be able to use it with the S video output. I'll try it later tonight to see if it works.

Posted by: calvinpesh

ok so heres the bottom line:

the new apple AV composite and componet cables on the apple store website are compatible with the iphone. the cables just arent available now which is why it says "will ship in 3-4 weeks." guess we will just have to wait unless someone else sells it sooner or someone figures out how to mod a current cable.

Posted by: JerryNY

This is the new AV dock that allows you to connect your own cables and comes with a IR remote to work with it. Seems like a better deal than the cables.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...ind=%20MB125G/A

They came out a while ago but I think they sold out because the new iPods (Classic, touch and Nano) all need to use the new cables and docks to output video, the old headphone jack video out no longer is being used by Apple on its new products. The new cables and dock use a special chip so 3rd party cables are going to need to use them as well.

Posted by: rabanjr

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryNY

This is the new AV dock that allows you to connect your own cables and comes with a IR remote to work with it. Seems like a better deal than the cables.
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...ind=%20MB125G/A

I like this much better. 3-4 weeks to ship though

Allan

Posted by: calvinpesh

yeah, i also notices that, but u dont need that dock unless u want the remote becuase the new cables can connect to the exisitng dock that came with your iphone. the only difference in the dock you're talking about is that it has the remote. pretty good dock though if u need the remote. but personally, when i (eventually) get the new AV cable, i am just going to plug it directly into my iphone and not use a dock. personal preference i guess. thanks for pointing that out though

Posted by: mrinstall

Its probably the same issue as the new Classic ipods. The universal docks and the new cables have a chip built in it that allows the TV out to operate.

I bought the old av cables with the universal dock for my classic and it works. (I haven't updated my iPhone yet cause I don't want to lose my ringtones.)

Posted by: six5enroute

how come when i go to settings i dont have a tv out option? and yes i did update ny software....

Posted by: six5enroute

nevermind!!!! found it....duuuuhhhh!!!

Posted by: J Peezy

Do you have to have Apple TV to watch videos this way or just the cable connecting to the tv? I never tried with my old iPod video.

Posted by: Buk

Hope this helps

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buk

Hope this helps

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

Yeah, i found this page late last night, it really helps. it is yet another comfirmation that apple requires us to purchase new docks and cables just to use the TV out feature on our iphones. i wish other developers would come out with the new cables sooner, and maybe less expensive.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Peezy

Do you have to have Apple TV to watch videos this way or just the cable connecting to the tv? I never tried with my old iPod video.

No, you can directly connect your iphone to a tv with the new cables. or u can connect it through the universal dock. u dont need Apple TV.

Posted by: H0CKEY

wish my 1.0.2 iphone had the TV out update ....i would try my N95 cable to see if by chance it would work with the apple since they both use the headphone jack for the output :: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GENUINE-NOKIA... QcmdZViewItem

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by H0CKEY

wish my 1.0.2 iphone had the TV out update ....i would try my N95 cable to see if by chance it would work with the apple since they both use the headphone jack for the output :: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GENUINE-NOKIA... QcmdZViewItem

The iphone does not put out video through the headphone jack. only the ipods did that. now its only through the 30 pin connector at the bottom of the iphones and new ipods.

Posted by: murchyk

I have a dock with a Video output... it came with my theater system when i bought it... didnt have iPhone back then but now i find it usefull

Posted by: asmielia

Is anyone else surprised by the fact that the max resolution output of the iPhone is 480i for NTSC users?

How is the iPod Nano capable of 480p and the iPhone isn't? I was under the impression that the iPhone would be capable of true 480p widescreen DVD quality output (848x480). So my next question to anyone who gets this working is whether the iPhone can at least do proper 480i widescreen (848x480)?

I'm also wondering what the max resolution is of a composite cable. I know it's 480i, but can it do 480i widescreen?

If the answer to either of those last two questions is no, I don't see why anyone would get the component cables, just limits your connection possibilities to newer TVs.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by asmielia

Is anyone else surprised by the fact that the max resolution output of the iPhone is 480i for NTSC users?

How is the iPod Nano capable of 480p and the iPhone isn't? I was under the impression that the iPhone would be capable of true 480p widescreen DVD quality output (848x480). So my next question to anyone who gets this working is whether the iPhone can at least do proper 480i widescreen (848x480)?

I'm also wondering what the max resolution is of a composite cable. I know it's 480i, but can it do 480i widescreen?

If the answer to either of those last two questions is no, I don't see why anyone would get the component cables, just limits your connection possibilities to newer TVs.

I dont think the max res for the iphone is 480. i think it goes up to something like 576i/P, i remember reading it somewhere. i didnt even know 576i/p was another format lol. i thought it was only 480, 720, and 1080 lol.

Posted by: JerryNY

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

576 is PAL which is used in europe and other places. I think only the US, Canada and Japan use/used NTSC.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryNY

576 is PAL which is used in europe and other places. I think only the US, Canada and Japan use/used NTSC.

thanks for clearing that up

Posted by: calvinpesh

Ok so I have noticed a few more developments (or changes lol). Last week, the new composite and component AV cables that are compatible with the iphone, said will ship in 3-4 weeks. Today I checked them again and now they say they will ship in 1-2 weeks. This is a good sign. Another interesting thing that I noticed is that under the descriptions of each of the new cables, it now actually states that they are compatible with the iphone as compared to last week when we had to make calls and do online chats to Apple just to comfirm that they were compatible! lol.

I also noticed that the new Apple universal dock (the one with the remote), which the new cables are also compatible with, now says it will ship in 5-7 days! This already stated that it works with the iphone last week, so nothing has changed its description.

Judging by all this, it would make sense that these new products will be available within the next couple weeks and at that point, when people order them, they should ship in 24 hours like most of the other products.

I'm probably going to wait for these to arrive at the Apple retail stores before I pick them up.

Posted by: Marc_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

Ok so I have noticed a few more developments (or changes lol). Last week, the new composite and component AV cables that are compatible with the iphone, said will ship in 3-4 weeks. Today I checked them again and now they say they will ship in 1-2 weeks. This is a good sign. Another interesting thing that I noticed is that under the descriptions of each of the new cables, it now actually states that they are compatible with the iphone as compared to last week when we had to make calls and do online chats to Apple just to comfirm that they were compatible! lol.

Thanks for the update!

I'm guessing all these new products that haven't started shipping yet have the new chip in them which enables video out on the iPhone (and iPod Touch etc.)

Now let's hope they start thinking about a good car solution

Here's a thread I started a while back on this subject in the hopes of finding a viable car option:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1242845

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc_G

Here's a thread I started a while back on this subject in the hopes of finding a viable car option:

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1242845

Yeah, I's pretty sure the new cables have the new chip in them. It makes sense that onces these cables come out, third party developers would start making car solutions.

Posted by: calvinpesh

I found an article on Gizmodo where they have tested the new apple component AV cable. They confirmed that it works. Now if only we could get our hands on these new cables...they are still not out! I checked again just now and its still says they will ship in 1-2 weeks.

Posted by: Jster

Quote:

Originally Posted by hudbaby

This thread is a great example of why I come to this forum. Its pure entertainment!

The first half is shear terror and shock/ZOMG apple is the dumbest company on the planet! Just to be followed in the second half (so far) of people reposting the same info over and over.

The A/V setup has been on the Apple store for weeks, yet because it took using your brain and having to find information that wasn't being spoon fed to you, everyone did a face dive.

Good show HOFO!

Lord knows, you certainly are valued-added.

Posted by: dmk1974

Question...is there any way to make the new component cable work as a composite cable as well? I'd love to get the better resolution for my HDTV, but I need the composite for the kids in the minivan. I am definitely not buying two separate $50 cables and worst-case I'll get the composite, but if there is a combiner or some way to get the component one to plug in one of the three connectors to work...can someone let me know? Thanks!

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmk1974

Question...is there any way to make the new component cable work as a composite cable as well? I'd love to get the better resolution for my HDTV, but I need the composite for the kids in the minivan. I am definitely not buying two separate $50 cables and worst-case I'll get the composite, but if there is a combiner or some way to get the component one to plug in one of the three connectors to work...can someone let me know? Thanks!

As far as I know, there is no way to may component cables work as composite cables. This is probably because the component cables are split in to red, green, and blue plugs for HD video and a red and white plugs for the audio. If you plugged in only one of the three colored plugs from a component cable (either the red, blue, or green plug) into the yellow slot for a composite cable, then your images on the screen will be missing colors. For example, if u tried plugging the green plug tip of a component cable into the yellow slot for a composite cable, your image might only appear green. Therefore it is impossible to use a component cable in a composite slot since componet cables slit the video into red green and blue plugs and the composite slot only has one yellow input. hope this makes sense lol.

Posted by: dmk1974

Yeah, that's what I was figuring for the iPhone. For my TV, where my component cable set has 5 connectors on each end, I can easily make it work as a composite cable.

Apple just keeps killing me with their accessory costs!

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmk1974

Yeah, that's what I was figuring for the iPhone. For my TV, where my component cable set has 5 connectors on each end, I can easily make it work as a composite cable.

Apple just keeps killing me with their accessory costs!

You can't use an iPhone component cable as a composite cable. Even though u will have five connectors from the component av cable and even though u can plug any 3 of those 5 connectors into a composite input, it still wont work. The reason why is because when you plug a component av cable into the iphone, it will automatically only HD informations through the cable, and therefore even if you plugged a component av cable from your iphone into a composite input in a tv, it wont recognize the signal.

Posted by: dmk1974

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

Is the component cable even worth it (for the iPhone)? That article above says the max res of the iPhone with the component cable is interlaced, not progressive.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmk1974

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300233

Is the component cable even worth it (for the iPhone)? That article above says the max res of the iPhone with the component cable is interlaced, not progressive.

You're right. Personally I'm just going to buy the composite cable even though I big on HD resolution.

Posted by: JerryNY

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

You're right. Personally I'm just going to buy the composite cable even though I big on HD resolution.

Well I don't know if I would go that far. iPodlounge did a review of the new cable and compared output from the iPhone/touch to the new iPod classic and they say the image quality was significantly better on the iPhone/touch even though the classic outputs a progressive signal which is technically better. The iPhone/touch decoding is probably superior but it does go to show that just because it is interlaced it may not suck. If your TV has a good de-interlacer built in it can do a world of good also.

www.ilounge.com

Just because it is not outputting progressive scan doesn't mean you gain nothing by having component inputs either. Just fyi.

Posted by: rayphone

If I get this right, the component cable which plugs directly into the iPhone is $49.00, and the Universal Dock is $49.00, but as an added bonus, you get a remote. If I just buy the cables for $49.00, I can watch tv by plugging the cable into my iPhone, and then lay my iPhone on top of the TV. Looks like I can even charge the iPhone at the same time. But to change what I'm watching, I have to get up, walk to the iPhone and manually make the change. Or, I can spend another $49.00 for the Dock with the remote, (I still have to buy the cable), and be able to stay in my recliner when I want to watch something different on the iPhone. Is it worth $49.00 to not have to get up and make the change? Reminds me of the old days before tv remotes. I think I'll try to just get up before spending an extra $49.00.

Is it possible to put the Apple remote codes into my other remotes with a IR learning process? Are Apple remote codes already loaded on Harmony's website? Is the IR signal going to the iPhone directly, or to the Dock? If it's to the Dock, then I guess to use the remote I'll have to buy the Dock. All this just to be lazy and stay in my recliner!

Or I can just forget the $100 cost to do this, add my $100 store credit for buying the iPhone on launch day, and spend the difference for Apple TV. Decisions, decisions.

Posted by: Diversion

Wait for an influx of small adapters that go between older dock connector power/video cables to the iPhone (so that it sorts out the pin connectors so that you can send video through an older dock cable) here soon.. In fact, I can't wait because then I can finally watch video from my iPhone into my headunit which uses a proprietary dock connector cable.

Edit: And if this hasn't been thought of, here's your free invention idea, get to work and send me some money

Jay

Posted by: flyingdutchman

I don't think anyone has mentioned this but there is another reason you have to buy new cables. Apple has put chips in the new cables so that only their's and "Made for iPhone/iPod" cables will work. Without that, they will not work. This goes for iPod Classic, the new Nano, Touch, and iPhone. It is a blatant gouging.

Basically, don't expect any cheap cables for video out on any of the new iPhones.

BTW, everyone talks about suing Apple for bricking phones, etc. Well this is a much better reason. They are using their proprietary technology to lock us into their cables and then charge through the nose for them. $49 for a short set of component cables is outrageous.

Posted by: calvinpesh

They're here folks.
I was watching the apple online store all day and it was just updated a few hours ago. The composite AV cable, componant AV cable, and the new universval dock with remote that supports these new cables, all now say they will "ship within 24 hours."

Here are the quick links:

Composite AV Cable:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB129LL/A

Componant AV Cable:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB128LL/A

Universal Dock with remote that supports new cables:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...6&nplm=MB125G/A

Enjoy

Posted by: Haas_Dave

I hope they mean by 480i/576i the same way it's used in TV references (so it'd be 640*480i for full screen or 1024*576i for widescreen).

Posted by: calvinpesh

I'm going to check if my local Apple Store has them in stock tomorrow. If they don't, I'm most probably going to order the composite AV cable from the online Apple Store. I'll keep you guys updated.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haas_Dave

I hope they mean by 480i/576i the same way it's used in TV references (so it'd be 640*480i for full screen or 1024*576i for widescreen).

Yeah, that's interesting. I guess thats what is must mean. I'll let u know if I find out.

Posted by: JerryNY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haas_Dave

I hope they mean by 480i/576i the same way it's used in TV references (so it'd be 640*480i for full screen or 1024*576i for widescreen).

No it likely means 480i NTSC which is 720x480 and 576i PAL which is 720x576. It really wouldn't make sense to have an iPod/iPhone output much more than that considering they couldn't play back H.264 up near HD resolution levels anyway. PAL has a bit higher resolution than NTSC and is slightly superior, especially in color as NTSC is often jokingly referred to as Never The Same Color. The PAL standard came almost 20 years after NTSC was established something like 60 years ago. NTSC has a higher refresh rate which makes it a little smoother.

Edit- I would just like to clear up that as I posted before PAL is the European, China, India, Eastern South America's standard and many other places in the world too. NTSC is used by all of North America, the Western parts of South America and Japan along with a few other places.

Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryNY

Yeah, I forgot about overscan and the difference in NTSC/PAL... oops me the stupid broadcast major...

But since the iPhone can handle 720x content (haven't tried 720x480 yet, but it can run 720x400 16:9 content), that's around SDTV resolutions and comparable to DVD.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryNY

I know remember when u posted this earlier. Thanks again

Posted by: calvinpesh

Just got back from my local Apple Store. They still don't have the cables.........
Guess I'll have to order them.

Posted by: Marc_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

Just got back from my local Apple Store. They still don't have the cables.........
Guess I'll have to order them.

Did they give you an indication of when they might get them?

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc_G

Did they give you an indication of when they might get them?

No. They said they don't know when they will get them.....but I would assume they will start showing up in stores in a few weeks since they just became available for "24 hour ship" on the online Apple Store. You're probably better off ordering them from the online store anyway since they ship so fast. For example, if you ordered one today (Tuesday) they might ship tomorrow and arrive on the Friday. And they also offer 2-3 day delivery for $10 (which I got since I used my $100 iphone rebate for the whole order.) Just for reference though, from what I remember, the composite AV cable with 2-3 day ship came out to about $64.

Posted by: J Peezy

completly honest question here. Why would anyone need these cables? If you have vids on your iPhone then you have iTunes on your pc. Why not watch the vids on your pc, plug the pc into the tv, or set up a network to the tv. I don't understand why someone would put a video on their pc, then add it to iTunes, then the iPhone, then take the phone to the tv to watch the vids on tv. Just burn a DVD-rw or something.

Posted by: dmk1974

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Peezy

completly honost question here. Why would anyone need these cables? If you have bids on your iPhone then you have iTunes on your pc. Why not watch the vids on your pc, plug the of into the tv, or set up a network to the tv. I don't understand why someone would put a video on their pc, then add it to iTunes, then the iPhone, then take the phone to the tv to watch the vids on tv. Just burn a DVD-rw or something.

For me, it's easy to have my iPhone with me in, say, the family minivan where I can then use the cable to plug into the overhead DVD player screen. Or then when I get to my in laws or something, I can take the same cable and iPhone and hook the kids up with a show or movie.

Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by J Peezy

completly honest question here. Why would anyone need these cables? If you have vids on your iPhone then you have iTunes on your pc. Why not watch the vids on your pc, plug the pc into the tv, or set up a network to the tv. I don't understand why someone would put a video on their pc, then add it to iTunes, then the iPhone, then take the phone to the tv to watch the vids on tv. Just burn a DVD-rw or something.

It'd be easier to keep and certain video on my phone and AV cables than it is to burn the video on DVD and hope to find a [usable] DVD player.
In my case, many of the lounges and classrooms I go to have a projector or TV set up, but no DVD player installed (usually it's the individual's, instructor's or organization's responsibility to provide that).

Besides, the lesser the amount of equipment to haul for a group video screening, the better.

Posted by: xcharliemx

Now all we need is an app to record what's playing on your TV to your iPhone. Awwww man I would die.

Posted by: JerryNY

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcharliemx

Now all we need is an app to record what's playing on your TV to your iPhone. Awwww man I would die.

EyeTV has the ability to transcode what you record automatically and stream it you your iPhone right now. I tried it and it actually works well but it can take a while to convert HD stuff down to something wifi stream-able to the iPhone. It actually stores the smaller iPhone scaled recording in the package contents of the recorded show so it does end up taking more space up for the file. The wifi part of it is cool but I am not sure how much I care to stream it to my iPhone when I can watch the original in all its HD glory. Here is a link to what it looks like:

http://www.tuaw.com...eyetv-2-5-offers-free-slingbox-style-video-streaming/

Posted by: g33k1

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryNY

No F'n way... I think I just dropped a load in my pants sweeeeeee eeeeee eeeeettt

Posted by: Haas_Dave

Jerry, Charlie meant directly (via cables or such) to the phone... but it's only a wish...

Posted by: JerryNY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haas_Dave

Jerry, Charlie meant directly (via cables or such) to the phone... but it's only a wish...

Yeah, after I posted that I re-read what he posted and think I misinterpreted it as you say but I think the EyeTV thing is still kinda cool though. I figure some people would still find it interesting and TV related.

Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryNY

True. The new EyeTV feature is nice to use if it's setup right.

Posted by: calvinpesh

I got an email today, my cable has just shipped. Hopefully I should get it tomorrow or the day after.

Posted by: calvinpesh

After just ordereding it on two days ago (on Tuesday), my Apple AV Composite cable has arrived. Here is my review (and what I think of it):

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Whats in the box:

--Apple AV Composite Cable
--USB power adapter
--Manual
--Waranty

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About the cable:

The cable is very good qaulity and is about 7 feet in length. I think this is a perfect length because it makes it easier to haul around with you (in your car, to a friend's house, etc). The cable is not excessivly heavy or anything (like some of the heavy duty Monster cables can be). On one end of the cable is the three AV connectors (red, white, yellow) and on the other end of the cable is the standard (30 pin) iPod/iPhone connector. In addition to these conectors, there is also a usb wire connected to the AV cable. This is for if you wanted to plug your iPhone/iPod into a usb powerr adapter (supplied) while whatching you videos on the TV. But (like it was with the previous AV cables), you don't have to have your iPhone/iPod plugged into a power supply to watch videos on a TV. You might only do this if you were planning on watching a long movie or video so you're not left with an almost empty battery when you are done. The three AV connectors easily plug into the inputs on the TV, but (as with most AV cables) you may need to push them a little to ensure a nice and tight connection.

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Video Quality:

The one thing to remember is not to expect HD quality or anything close to that with this cable since it is a Composite cable. If you're looking for HD quality or something close to it, I recommend getting the Component version of this cable.

Another thing to note is that the tests I did were all on a 65in widescreen TV, so you can imagine how much the video needed to be enalrged by, which would signifcantly affect the video qaulity. If you used this cable to view videos on a smaller screen like 20 in or smaller, I'm sure it would would look really good. I also had my iPhone set to "widescreen on" under the TV out settings in the iPhone. If you have a widescreen TV and you set widescreen to "off" in the settings in the iPhone, then it will simply stretch the video to fit your screen.

When you try to play a movie on the iPhone and you have the TV out setting on, just like the iPods, it will ask you first if you want to display the video on a TV. When you select "yes", it will appear on your TV and start playing.

I tested out some videos and trailers I had downloaded from Itunes. The quality was very watchable in my opinion. It was pretty much like sattelite or cable TV quality. I don't beleive there was pixelation, but instead, it was more blurred and smooth (ex: not sharp and pristine like DVDs or HD would be). But this is not to say it was bad. Like I said earlier, it was watchable.

I also tested some other videos which were not downloaded from iTunes. They were about the same quality. Remeber, if you use a video convertor to convert videos to iPhone/iPod format, its worth converting them at the highest quality. For example, some converting programs ask if you want to convert it to good quality, great quality, or best quality. If would always chose the highest setting.

As far as the audio playback from the videos was concerned, it sounded really good. The was no problem in the audio quality when played through my TV.

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YOUTUBE!:

Youtube works through the cable! When you go to youtube application on the iPhone/iPod touch, and try and play a video, it will ask you if you wanto display on the TV. Select yes and there you go! Now you can watch millions of videos on your TV from your iPhone/iPod touch. The video quality on the TV is actually not bad. Its about the same quality as watching regular videos (videos you loaded onto your iPhone/iPod) on a TV. I recommend, when you are watching Youtube videos from your iPhone on a TV, always view them while using WiFi turned on in the iPhone so you will get the best possible Youtube video qaulity (since using EDGE compresses the Youtube video quality on your iPhone).
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Picture quality:

You can also view pictures from your iPhone/iPod on a TV. With the cable plugged in, just go to the "camera roll" on your iPhone, and press "play" at the bottom of the picture. Use the left and right arrows to switch between the pictures. One thing you can't do while viewing pictures on you TV from the iPhone however, is you can't zoom in. When you zoom in, it will zoom in on your iPhone, but the picture will stay the same on the TV. I'm not sure why this is, but oh well. Another things is when you tilt yor iPhone to switch the picture from portait to landscape and vice versa, it wont' switch on your TV. It will just diplay it the larged possible way. I think messing with the "widescreen on/off" option under settings in the iPhone is worth experimenting with.

First I viewed pictures which were taken with my iPhone. They looked "ok" when viewed on the TV. In other words, they looked like what one would expect from a camera that's only 2 megapixels.

Then I loaded some pictures I had taken with my 7 megapixel camera onto my iPhone. I viewed these on the TV and they appeared a little bit better. They were still not crisp as 7 megapixel images can be, but that was just because of the fact that I am using composite AV cable. If I were using the component AV cable, it would most likely be full resolution and look better.

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Final thoughts/Recommendation:

In conclusion, I would definately recommend this cable if you want to view media from your new iPod(s)/iPhone on a TV. For me its great since I will be able to share pictures and videos with my friends on bigger screens.

If you are deciding whether to get the composite or component verison of this cable, then consider the following. Think about where you are going to be using it most of the time. If you are planning on using it in your car for example, you should probably get the composite version since most TV screens in cars dont have component inputs and since the car screens are so smaller anyway that even composite video will look good. If you are planning on using it for screen smaller than about 24 in, I would still recommend getting the composite version. If you are planning on using it in many differnt places (large TVs, small TVs, car TVs, etc) then I would still recommend getting the composite cable since you will probably find only composite inputs in more places than you will find component inputs. The only time I would recommed getting the component version is if you are plannin on only or mostly using the cable for lagre HDTVs. In short, all TVs that have component inputs will probably also have composite inputs, but all TVs that have composite inputs will not neccasarily have component inputs.

Well that's it for now. I'll continue to update you with more reviews as I use the cable more. If you would like to know anything esle, just let me know here and I'll try and let you know. And if anyone gets the component AV cable, then let us know

Posted by: vish0402

@calivinpesh: Thanks for the great review! Did you test it with Youtube? Were you able to play Youtube on your TV with this cable?

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by vish0402

@calivinpesh: Thanks for the great review! Did you test it with Youtube? Were you able to play Youtube on your TV with this cable?

You're welcome! I did not test this yet. I'm pretty sure you can't view youtube on a TV, but I'll try it out and let you know.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

You're welcome! I did not test this yet. I'm pretty sure you can't view youtube on a TV, but I'll try it out and let you know.

I just checked and YES! YOU CAN WATCH YOUTUBE FROM THE IPHONE/IPOD TOUCH ON THE TV USING THE CABLE! I'm sure this is great news for a lot of people

I just updated my review by the way and I added a sections in which I reviewed watching Youtube on a TV with the cable. Enjoy.

Let me know if you want to know anything else

Posted by: Marc_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

When you try to play a movie on the iPhone and you have the TV out setting on, just like the iPods, it will ask you first if you want to display the video on a TV. When you select "yes", it will appear on your TV and start playing.

Thanks for the VERY detailed review!

Quick question about the above paragraph I just quoted: when you choose to display the video on an external TV, does the iPhone's screen also display the video concurrently with the TV? If it doesn't, does the iPhone's actual LCD stay on, or does it turn completely off?

Another general question: do you ever hear the GSM "buzz" noises through your hi-fi stereo system, or does the cable do a good job at shielding those out?

Final question: I'm assuming that, when you plug the cable into the iPhone, it doesn't ask you to turn Airplane mode on (since it was designed for the iPhone too), right?

Thanks again!
-Marc

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc_G

Thanks for the VERY detailed review!

When you play videos on the TV, it does not also play the video on your iPhone/iPod touch. It only diplays the thumnail art when you are playing the video on a TV. The display stays on, but you can turn it off and the video will still play on the TV. The same applies for when you are watching Youtube videos on a TV. It still plays the video on the TV if you turn of the display.

I never hear the GSM buzz noise. When I'm playing my iphone through my car stereo, I use a cassete tape adapter with the belking iphone headphone jack adapter so it will fit in my iphone. I never hear any buzz. I also never hear the buzz when I'm playing videos on my TV. Either the cables and adapters I'm using are really good, or my iphone just doesn't generate gsm buzz lol.

And no, it doesn't ask you to turn airplane mode on when you use the cable.

Posted by: vish0402

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

I just checked and YES! YOU CAN WATCH YOUTUBE FROM THE IPHONE/IPOD TOUCH ON THE TV USING THE CABLE! I'm sure this is great news for a lot of people

I just updated my review by the way and I added a sections in which I reviewed watching Youtube on a TV with the cable. Enjoy.

Let me know if you want to know anything else

This is great - will run to get the cable now!!!

Posted by: THETRUTH#34

If this is like the tv out on the n95, you can basically do all functions on the phone on a external screen. Is this the case??? I can browse the net and play games and just do everything i can do on my phone on my tv, hope its the same, really cool feature.

Posted by: elwuero

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

I received my cables today (component and composite) and this tv out feature is really great. I have a video production company and will now just carry a monitor around to show clients video samples instead of a DVD player.

Regarding the GSM buzz, it has something to do with the "device" that buzzes and not the cables or the iPhone. I drive four different cars. I have the same ProClip holder in all four and the iphone is situated in approximately the same area. Two of the cars buzz like crazy and the other two never make any buzzing sound. When I plug the iPhone into one of my TVs it doesnt buzz at all but with another one it buzzes like crazy.

Posted by: vwvwvw

I don’t imagine you can view the Safari web browser through TV out… or can you?

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34

If this is like the tv out on the n95, you can basically do all functions on the phone on a external screen. Is this the case??? I can browse the net and play games and just do everything i can do on my phone on my tv, hope its the same, really cool feature.

No, you can't do all the functions of the phone on the TV. Only the functions I talked about in my review (on page 6 of this thread).

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwvwvw

I don’t imagine you can view the Safari web browser through TV out… or can you?

No, you can't view Safari web browser through the TV out. Only the functions I mentioned in my review (on page 6 of this thread) will work through the TV out.

Posted by: calvinpesh

I just thought of something. The only advantage of getting the component cable is to get better "picture" qaulity on the TV. It shouldn't really improve the video quality on the TV since youn can't even put HD content on the iPhone. The iPhone doesn't except HD files (like .mt2 or mpeg HD). So I'm thinking the only place where the component cable will be beneficial is to improve the quality of pictures view on the TV. What is everyone else's thought on this?

Posted by: vwvwvw

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

No, you can't view Safari web browser through the TV out. Only the functions I mentioned in my review (on page 6 of this thread) will work through the TV out.

Thanks for confirming this.

It sure would have been great to have the browser work through the TV (especially with using the zoom feature).

You taking the time to post that review is much appreciated.

Posted by: JerryNY

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvinpesh

I just thought of something. The only advantage of getting the component cable is to get better "picture" qaulity on the TV. It shouldn't really improve the video quality on the TV since youn can't even put HD content on the iPhone. The iPhone doesn't except HD files (like .mt2 or mpeg HD). So I'm thinking the only place where the component cable will be beneficial is to improve the quality of pictures view on the TV. What is everyone else's thought on this?

Well color should also be better with component cables too. Colors have a tendency to bleed with composite with its one connector. You get two separate color channel and one black and white full res channel with component, hence the multiple rca plugs. The limited output resolution of the iPhone will limit the potential of the component vs composite difference but it should still look a little better, maybe not a huge difference, but composites do have the advantage in that almost everything has an input for them. HD has nothing to do with mt2 or mpeg though, you can have HD H.264 as well, it just isn't supported by the iPhone for HD as it would be too taxing on the little thing. Check out Apple's HD movie trailers on their site.

Posted by: rayphone

Just picked up a set of component cables and bought the Universal Dock with the remote, which together cost $105.00. I used my $100 rebate, so this cost me $5.00. I have a Sony which has the screen dimensions of a regular tv, but also plays HD content. It's that 400 pound one. When I plugged the cables in, I had my tv set to "automatic", so when it saw a component signal, it put it automatically at 16 x 9. That size stretched the tv show I had downloaded and filled the screen. I went into my tv setup and changed it to make the picture a smaller 16 x9 with black bars above and below the picture, and it looked great. I also have the sound coming through the tv, and it was fine. Save your money, though on the universal dock and the remote. It does not go to the next video if you're done watching one show. Hitting next puts it into the audio songs on your iPhone, no display, and hitting next takes you to the next song. The only thing good about having the remote is that if you have to get up while watching a show and go to the bathroom, you can hit pause on the remote and it will pause the show. But you can do that when you get up by just walking to the iPhone and pausing it on the phone. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the dock and remote since it's not going to the next tv show, I'll keep working on it.

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by rayphone

Just picked up a set of component cables and bought the Universal Dock with the remote, which together cost $105.00. I used my $100 rebate, so this cost me $5.00. I have a Sony which has the screen dimensions of a regular tv, but also plays HD content. It's that 400 pound one. When I plugged the cables in, I had my tv set to "automatic", so when it saw a component signal, it put it automatically at 16 x 9. That size stretched the tv show I had downloaded and filled the screen. I went into my tv setup and changed it to make the picture a smaller 16 x9 with black bars above and below the picture, and it looked great. I also have the sound coming through the tv, and it was fine. Save your money, though on the universal dock and the remote. It does not go to the next video if you're done watching one show. Hitting next puts it into the audio songs on your iPhone, no display, and hitting next takes you to the next song. The only thing good about having the remote is that if you have to get up while watching a show and go to the bathroom, you can hit pause on the remote and it will pause the show. But you can do that when you get up by just walking to the iPhone and pausing it on the phone. Maybe I'm doing something wrong with the dock and remote since it's not going to the next tv show, I'll keep working on it.

Hmmm.....that's weird. The dock really doesn't help much in that case. If anyone else has the universal dock with remote, let us know how it works for you and what funtions you are able to do with it.

I also checked the online description for the universal dock and remote and I noticed that it doesn't actually state that you can go to the next or previous video with the remote. This is weird since that's probably one of the main functions people who are buying this universal dock would want the remote to do....

Here is a copy of the description of the universal dock with remote. Notice how the last sentence says "forward/back buttons for easy control." I think this might just mean that you can fast forward and rewind the current video you are playing.

Universal Dock Description:
"And when your iPod or iPhone is in the Dock and connected to a stereo or TV, the included Apple Remote lets you experience songs, slideshows, and more from across the room. Just choose a playlist, slideshow, or video, then sit back and enjoy. The Apple Remote offers play/pause, volume control, and forward/back buttons for easy control."

Posted by: rayphone

Played around a little more. The "menu" button on the remote does nothing. I started a slide show of a couple hundred photos. They come through just fine on the tv. As they started, I went to the iPod portion and started playing songs. They played at the same time as the slide show, so if you want to show friends your photos on tv, you can play music at the same time. Get the right song, it really adds to the effect of viewing your photos. The volume on the remote works for tv shows or songs. After a tv show finishes, the display on the iPhone returns to your "video" list. If you want to watch another show, you will have to walk up to your iPhone and touch the next show on the screen. I guess the universal dock is nice in that your phone is upright to make it easy to touch the next show easily, but for $49.00, I don't think it's worth the money. Oh, while viewing the slide show of the photos and playing music at the same time, I wanted to go just go to the next song before the current song was over, I pushed next, and it went to the next song, but it stopped the slide show of the photos and the screen on the tv went blank. So, pick the right song for your slide show before starting it.

Posted by: Marc_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwuero

I drive four different cars. I have the same ProClip holder in all four and the iphone is situated in approximately the same area. Two of the cars buzz like crazy and the other two never make any buzzing sound. When I plug the iPhone into one of my TVs it doesnt buzz at all but with another one it buzzes like crazy.

That's interesting, thanks for the info.

Which ProClip mounts did you get for your iPhone?
Do they have the built-in dock connector, or do you keep having to manually connect the dock cable every time?

Posted by: turbo-sc

nice, seems like a cool thing to bring along for a small gathering... keep an eye on your precious though...

Posted by: Carbonfly

I wonder if you could use dot.tunes to stream videos to your tv using this cable? I know you said that you can't surf safari on your tv, so I guess this might not work.

Has anyone used this program? http://www.dottunes.net/iphone.html

Posted by: bigmike20

This might be a good time than to use my $100 credit.
I already got a case for the phone so I just don't know what to use the $100 on.

Posted by: xDAREMOx

I bought my Composite cables from the Apple Store in Oak Brook IL a few days ago. I was there the day they arrived in store, and I was lucky enough to buy the last box with Composite. They did however have about 25 boxes of Component cables, and the salesmen said they had equal amounts in stock when they arrived. It seems most people want the Composite. It's a bit more "universal" at this point. For that tiny bump in picture quality, it's not worth it for most people, seeing as the phone and touch are very limited on what you can put on them.

Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carbonfly

I wonder if you could use dot.tunes to stream videos to your tv using this cable? I know you said that you can't surf safari on your tv, so I guess this might not work.

I wish that would work too, cause my Orb video library would be sweet to see on TV. I'm sure since the QuickTime runtime is a plugin for Safari, it would fall under the "it doesn't show Safari content on TV" idea...

I'm hopeful for an Orb on OSX release. Things can sometimes be better when they are free...

Posted by: zoeconner

I just got my cables and loving it. Except..... Im haveing trouble with a sync problem with the video and the audio. Any help with the settings. Im useing Xilisoft and Apex. Still no go.

Posted by: zoeconner

What are the best setting to use for converting so Its nice on the TV?

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoeconner

What are the best setting to use for converting so Its nice on the TV?

I'm not familiar with the program you are using, but I would recommend setting it to the highest possible setting. For example, if it gives you an option to chose between good qaulity, great qaulity, or best qaulity, then chose the highest setting, "best qaulity." Make sure your program is set to "ipod" conversion or "h.264" or "mpeg4" conversion. In general, I'm found that no matter what converter I use, whenever I convert anything, even HD files to ipod format, the qaulity is reduced significantly. I have yet to find a descent program that reatins maximum qaulity of the original file. Hope this helps.

Posted by: Ryhian

Quick question about the composite cables. If you're in the ipod section and playing your music will it display the album art onto the tv screen at all?

Posted by: bigmike20

So do we even have a real answer on which cables to get? I'm so dying to use my $100 credit on something during the holidays.

Posted by: XFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmike20

So do we even have a real answer on which cables to get? I'm so dying to use my $100 credit on something during the holidays.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB128LL/A
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...&nplm=MB129LL/A

Posted by: calvinpesh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryhian

Quick question about the composite cables. If you're in the ipod section and playing your music will it display the album art onto the tv screen at all?

I haven't used my cable in a long time, but from my extensive review I did a few months earhtlier, I'm almost certain that the album art does not display on the TV when u are playing music throuhg the ipod part of the iphone. I don't think it displays anything for that matter, you will just hear the music and get a blank screen on the TV.

Posted by: Ryhian

Thanks for the response. Was hoping to be able to use the composite cable to view those when I played the music through my headunit in my car. A black screen is kinda boring.

Posted by: whomikejones

i came across this. does anyone know if this one actually works? its alot cheaper than the apple licensed one. im tempted to purchase this.

http://astore.amazon.com/apple-ipod...3947386-8382265

Posted by: mrinstall

I would like to know if that one works also. I bought 2 of the other cables at 49 a piece and i still need the docks.

Posted by: XFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomikejones

i came across this. does anyone know if this one actually works? its alot cheaper than the apple licensed one. im tempted to purchase this.

http://astore.amazon.com/apple-ipod...3947386-8382265

This should work fine, but you may get the "This accessory is not designed for iPhone." message every time you plug it in. But otherwise, yeah, it's just a cable, nothing much to screw up here.

Posted by: XFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrinstall

I would like to know if that one works also. I bought 2 of the other cables at 49 a piece and i still need the docks.

What for? I can plug my AV cable directly into the iPhone and it works fine.

Posted by: mrinstall

Quote:

Originally Posted by XFF

What for? I can plug my AV cable directly into the iPhone and it works fine.

Mine works also, but I'd like to have the docks to use them in my car and in my office. Its just cleaner then having cables laying around. I was kind of suprised that the cable wouldn't work with the OEM iPhone dock or the iPod universal dock.

Posted by: trashguy

can you get safari on your tv, so you can surf on a bigger screen?

Posted by: mrinstall

The Apple composite cable doesn't output safari. It only outputs video (including youtube videos and video podcasts)

Posted by: whomikejones

Quote:

Originally Posted by XFF

This should work fine, but you may get the "This accessory is not designed for iPhone." message every time you plug it in. But otherwise, yeah, it's just a cable, nothing much to screw up here.

ok so i bought it last night. total price with shipping is $9.97. i will let you guys know if this works. i just cant see paying 49 bucks for a simple cable.

Posted by: mrinstall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryhian

Thanks for the response. Was hoping to be able to use the composite cable to view those when I played the music through my headunit in my car. A black screen is kinda boring.

You can run the photo slideshow with the music playing so the screen isn't blank. Not what you want but it's better then a blank screen.

Posted by: sk2sep2304

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrinstall

The Apple composite cable doesn't output safari. It only outputs video (including youtube videos and video podcasts)

that's all i need to know. i will not get the cables.

Posted by: XFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrinstall

The original iPhone dock is lacking the video pins on the dock connector, but the universal dock should work fine.

Posted by: XFF

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomikejones

ok so i bought it last night. total price with shipping is $9.97. i will let you guys know if this works. i just cant see paying 49 bucks for a simple cable.

While I agree that $49 is steep for a cable, I should mention that it also includes an extra AC power adapter and allows you to charge the iPhone (via USB) while the cable is connected. The aftermarket cable will not allow you to charge at the same time, which may or may not be a problem for you.

Posted by: spookybathtub

576i is the format used in Europe. It is not considered HD. It is the equivalent of 480i in our North American NTSC system.

Posted by: shadow_cruiser

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