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It's been over 24 hours... any word from the iPhone Dev Team?

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Posted by: donm527

Just wondering any official word?

Any initial thoughts to the new firmware and he likelyhood of a solution within a week or months?

No harm in asking.



Posted by: sloan47

It has only been a day!! If there was any news, you'd see a ton of posts on it. Just keep your shirt on.



Posted by: saporta

lmao i cant wait either really, its temptin



Posted by: bwheezy112

yeah buddy, just calm down.. you should've have updated firmware.. now you're screwed, sucks man



Posted by: saporta

"now you're screwed, sucks man" , why is he "Screwed"?



Posted by: shadow_cruiser

I highly doubt we will see a solution before new years. The first 3rd party game developer who made "Lights Off" said 1.02 was relatively easy compared to this as it was in plain text in the RAMDISK. It is now encrypted and is so damn hard to get at, so don't expect a jailbreak anytime soon.



Posted by: donm527

hey buddy, how bout YOU calm down. lol

not screwed... I'm running a sony eric that i hacked with the help of the sony section of the hofo forum? lol. The sony had a couple of similar issues too that hacking helped... louder volume and allowed mp3 to be used as ringtones.

But I am genuinely interested in the iPhone as my next phone and really wanting to get one like yesterday so I keep tabs on the forum and obviously with my Sony, I am not against modding the phone if I feel the hacks are solid... so after 24 hours you'd think Dev team has had a chance to make an assessment of the damage and direction they are gonna take.

Like I said, no harm in asking and creating a specific thread for info.

prob a newbie... come back when you have 59 posts like me



Posted by: XanderMac

Dude, the new firmware is locked down tighter than a Gnats Chuff. Erica of the Dev team said not to expect it to be unlocked any time soon! Stick with 1.0.2



Posted by: xcharliemx

Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderMac
Dude, the new firmware is locked down tighter than a Gnats Chuff. Erica of the Dev team said not to expect it to be unlocked any time soon! Stick with 1.0.2


The 1.1.1 update is encrypted

In #iphone we determined it's 12 hours with dual Xeons to break that 128 bit encryption code . ...............dependent on the key. The other 1/2 of us determined 56 years. So somewhere in between that.



Posted by: sloan47

I'm a programmer and cryptology is one of my specialties and it's entirely dependent on the algorithm used, not the key size. If the encryption is AES, then it's gonna take a LONG TIME to break it. Longer than the expected use of the iPhone. If it's something like RSA, then it could probably be brute forced. A distributed network could probably get it cracked in a few months... but maybe. It's all dependent on what algorithm they used.



Posted by: saporta

xcharlie, i didnt understanda word u said, can u please clarify



Posted by: the dougler

+56 years. we need seti@home processing power.



Posted by: Halcyon98

well even if they can't hack the new firmware, they should be able to figure out a way to get the old 1.02 back on... or is that just as difficult?



Posted by: shadow_cruiser

For the record, if it is RSA encryption, it took Motorola devs 3-4 years using brute force method in a distributed network until it finally decrypted. There were thousands and thousands of users helping the moto@home project. By the time the RSA was broken, people had already moved onto a new phone. This is just an example of long it could take.



Posted by: djdownhill

Quote:
Originally Posted by shadow_cruiser
For the record, if it is RSA encryption, it took Motorola devs 3-4 years using brute force method in a distributed network until it finally decrypted. There were thousands and thousands of users helping the moto@home project. By the time the RSA was broken, people had already moved onto a new phone. This is just an example of long it could take.

Yup. I concur.



Posted by: sloan47

WHAT? It took them 3 to 4 years to break an 128 bit RSA key?!? Well, I can see that with frickin BRUTE FORCE, but cryptologist with any sense would use factorizations to their advantage. RSA 128 was broken over 10 years ago! Gezz...



Posted by: thegoldenhand

these threads come out of nowhere as if they have the dev team on their payroll. just sit back and wait. enough with the non-sense "where is the hack" threads.



Posted by: ALUOp

Is it really that bad?
PSP has encrypted firmware too but is cracked within days, right?



Posted by: soulweaponry

Quote:
Originally Posted by the dougler
+56 years. we need seti@home processing power.


Hell yeah! Aliens? Who cares. I want my iPhone hacks. Let the world unify to bring this back to our jesus phones.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xcharliemx
The 1.1.1 update is encrypted

In #iphone we determined it's 12 hours with dual Xeons to break that 128 bit encryption code . ...............dependent on the key. The other 1/2 of us determined 56 years. So somewhere in between that.


56 yrs is nothing. I'll be enjoying my brand spankin new hacks on my classic iPhone at 79 yrs old. But of coarse by then there will probably be an iPhone 30, rendering these old school hacks useless.



Posted by: shadow_cruiser

Even Erica from the dev team said the new encryption is really REALLY hard to break. She's not expecting a hack anytime soon at all.



Posted by: Philip Fry

Quote:
Originally Posted by xcharliemx
The 1.1.1 update is encrypted

In #iphone we determined it's 12 hours with dual Xeons to break that 128 bit encryption code . ...............dependent on the key. The other 1/2 of us determined 56 years. So somewhere in between that.


Right and after 56 years, they will come out with firmware 1.2.1 (finally with MMS and cut and paste features added ) and relock everyone.



Posted by: marktang

hey let say it will take them awhile to unlock the whole phone but you think its possible to unlock like the ipod and wifi part of the phone like before?



Posted by: bogdi1988

they managed to dump some stuff, but not too much. it is going very slow.

http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/in...p/Decrypt_1.1.1



Posted by: zx6racer

All I can say is gook luck !!!!



Posted by: paul34

There was word yesterday, and they said "don't expect a jailbreak anytime soon."

I tried to find the Engadget article but can't.



Posted by: shadow_cruiser

I believe its this one from Erica Sadun who's part of the iphone dev team

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/09/28/5-th...e-1-1-1-update/



Posted by: amolai

**** me man. I want a iphone



Posted by: taar44

Well some guy on Hackint0sh just claimed he was able to revert back to 1.02 from 1.1.1.



Posted by: taar44

5 people just confirmed it worked!! Looks like we are back in business!!! Take that Apple!!!



Posted by: amolai

WOOOT!!! I'm so happy, I thought my dreams of owning a iphone were killed lol





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