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Adding Touch Today Pluging to TILT or 8525

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Posted by: yozh

Since ATT decided to leave this great feature out and so many people are wondering how to do this.

Here are the links that you might need. Please read the instructions.

Kaiser HTC Home v.2.0.814.722

Kaiser HTC Home v.2.0.720719 BW and Color

HTC Homeplug Weather fix

This works both on TILT/8925 and 8525. Please read instructions in the posts provided. Usually its as simple as installing a cab. Thank you and enjoy.

P.S. For those that dont know what touch plugin looks like here is a picture.




Posted by: Jerryjans

This also works on the Sprint (HTC) 6800 (Mogul)


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerryjans
This also works on the Sprint (HTC) 6800 (Mogul)

Oh forgot to mention and also on the Wizard/8125/MDA and some other WM devices. Enjoy.


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

It's a great software..I use it on my 8525 along with a slew of other cab files...It organizes everything so well..I also use the HHC Customizer...for when u want to customize ur HTC Home Plug in...


Posted by: JP Whoregan

Damn, you are the man, yozh!


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP Whoregan
Damn, you are the man, yozh!

Hehe a man with a plan with out a WM phone. HEHEHEHEHE.

Patiently waiting.


Posted by: nvous23

Quick question, do you need to install both of the home plugins? seems like you'd just install the newer one of the two (v.2.0.814.722)


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by nvous23
Quick question, do you need to install both of the home plugins? seems like you'd just install the newer one of the two (v.2.0.814.722)

Yes the never one usually but the older one has colors and more compatable with some devices


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP Whoregan
Damn, you are the man, yozh!


Do you plan on adding it to your Tilt?

also...head over to xda and add the HHC program as well...


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by i880/8525junkie
Do you plan on adding it to your Tilt?

also...head over to xda and add the HHC program as well...

Hey provide a link to it here so everyone can enjoy


Posted by: yozh

I could of swore you can edit the first post if you made it.

Here is a link to the HTC Home Customizer!!


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

I don't mess around with XDA honestly...I don't like posting up links to it..especially with the crap that happened earlier this year...As long as you go to Hermes WM6...you should be able to find it...


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by i880/8525junkie
I don't mess around with XDA honestly...I don't like posting up links to it..especially with the crap that happened earlier this year...As long as you go to Hermes WM6...you should be able to find it...

Gotcha, they been pretty good to me, but I know what you mean.


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

it ain't even about that..just gotta be careful with the noobs when it comes to xda...they brick their device...blame us for talking about xda...It's not worth it to me honestly...if u PM me and I've talked with you in the past then yea, I'll give u a link but that's as far as I go...Plus I'm in training right now so I won't access XDA while I'm using AT&T's computers...


Posted by: yozh

Just bumping up since SO many people are getting them now. This should help people in there searches. enjoy your Kaisers GUYS !


Posted by: Jerryjans

Quote:
Originally Posted by yozh
Since ATT decided to leave this great feature out and so many people are wondering how to do this.

Here are the links that you might need. Please read the instructions.

Kaiser HTC Home v.2.0.814.722

Kaiser HTC Home v.2.0.720719 BW and Color

HTC Homeplug Weather fix

This works both on TILT/8925 and 8525. Please read instructions in the posts provided. Usually its as simple as installing a cab. Thank you and enjoy.

P.S. For those that dont know what touch plugin looks like here is a picture.
The Tilt will be available tommorow on AT&T for sale. I have seen prices of $300 to $400 with a 2 year contract. I am going to compare it against my TyTn2 and if the Tilt is as good I will sell the Tytn2 and get the Tilt.


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerryjans
The Tilt will be available tommorow on AT&T for sale. I have seen prices of $300 to $400 with a 2 year contract. I am going to compare it against my TyTn2 and if the Tilt is as good I will sell the Tytn2 and get the Tilt.

OK and what does this have to do with this thread ?


Posted by: Jerryjans

Quote:
Originally Posted by yozh
OK and what does this have to do with this thread ?

# 3 on your profile. You sais you might buy it if it ever gets here. Now its here


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerryjans
# 3 on your profile. You sais you might buy it if it ever gets here. Now its here

ok Thank you.


Posted by: jamaicanman

Does anyone have a weather plugin that has a majority of US cities? I've added in my most common ones to the weather file, but hate to go through the process just to add one if I go on some random unexpected trip. Supposedly there is a European one out there, so we North Americans should have our cake as well.


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamaicanman
Does anyone have a weather plugin that has a majority of US cities? I've added in my most common ones to the weather file, but hate to go through the process just to add one if I go on some random unexpected trip. Supposedly there is a European one out there, so we North Americans should have our cake as well.

Try the link with the weather fix.


Posted by: Transponder

How do you get it to display the temperature in Fahrenheit?


Posted by: 12VMan

I'm a noob at this so bear with me. The XDA site assumes you understand the basics and I don't.

1) Where do I put the .cab file on the device to install?

2) What happens to the ATT page? Do I need to back it up somewhere? Can you switch between the two (in case I don't like the new version)?

3) Can you add shortcuts to any program on the HTC version (e.g. Opera Mini)?


Posted by: kwickone

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12VMan
I'm a noob at this so bear with me. The XDA site assumes you understand the basics and I don't.

1) Where do I put the .cab file on the device to install?

2) What happens to the ATT page? Do I need to back it up somewhere? Can you switch between the two (in case I don't like the new version)?

3) Can you add shortcuts to any program on the HTC version (e.g. Opera Mini)?


1) You can put it anywhere. I usually just put it in My Documents. Then click on it using your device's File Explorer. It will install automatically. You can then delete the CAB file if you want.
2) Nothing happens. The CAB file will install Additional Today plug-ins. It will not replace anything (as far as I know). You can then select which ones you are using via Settings>Today.
3) Have not used it personally, but I believe so.

Hope this helps.


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwickone
1) You can put it anywhere. I usually just put it in My Documents. Then click on it using your device's File Explorer. It will install automatically. You can then delete the CAB file if you want.
2) Nothing happens. The CAB file will install Additional Today plug-ins. It will not replace anything (as far as I know). You can then select which ones you are using via Settings>Today.
3) Have not used it personally, but I believe so.

Hope this helps.

3) no not opera mini as its a Java app you can put the Java shortcut on it


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by Transponder
How do you get it to display the temperature in Fahrenheit?

go to the where you select the city and click on the button options.


Posted by: 12VMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by yozh
3) no not opera mini as its a Java app you can put the Java shortcut on it


I'm guessing that means I can't program it to one of the buttons, too?


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12VMan
I'm guessing that means I can't program it to one of the buttons, too?


No.... Maybe with shell command


Posted by: 12VMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by kwickone
1) You can put it anywhere. I usually just put it in My Documents. Then click on it using your device's File Explorer. It will install automatically. You can then delete the CAB file if you want.
2) Nothing happens. The CAB file will install Additional Today plug-ins. It will not replace anything (as far as I know). You can then select which ones you are using via Settings>Today.
3) Have not used it personally, but I believe so.

Hope this helps.


I installed the color version without any issues.

On another note, does XpressMail only push email if your PC/laptop is logged into Outlook? Apparently I am running Outlook as well - where did that come from and do I get to keep it? It's pushing email regardless of whether I am logged in or not.


Posted by: JP Whoregan

I installed this add on without any issues; I can't believe ATT decided to circumcise one of the highlights of this device from it's rom! This is a *must* addition for anybody that purchases a Tilt.


Posted by: capper

which version are people using with the Tilt?


Posted by: OffTheHorseCEO

so if i install the today plugin, does the device have to be running wm6? (8525)


Posted by: CPcrazyfly

cant get my weather....followed all steps...any suggestions? it show up on the list. it attempts to download data. "unable to retrieve data for selected city. select here to try again"


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPcrazyfly
cant get my weather....followed all steps...any suggestions? it show up on the list. it attempts to download data. "unable to retrieve data for selected city. select here to try again"

I`m assuming you have data ? Did you try with WIFI and with 3G/EDGE ?


Posted by: CPcrazyfly

i have data. it will get any of the other cities that are pre programmed in. but wont get info for my city that i added via xda instructions


Posted by: MrSlacker

Works like a charm.. i LOVE it

sry if it has been asked before, where do I change Weather to be in F instead of C?

thanks


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by CPcrazyfly
i have data. it will get any of the other cities that are pre programmed in. but wont get info for my city that i added via xda instructions

Thants strange dunno dude post on that forum


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSlacker
Works like a charm.. i LOVE it

sry if it has been asked before, where do I change Weather to be in F instead of C?

thanks

When you select the city there is options there take a look there.


Posted by: AlpineSkier

If anyone is looking for just a large clock that isn't as huge as the HTC plugin, try the Samsung clock. I found it here:

http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/get...reen-clock.html

Works great.


Posted by: CPcrazyfly

for those of you who got it to work on your Tilt. what are the exact steps you took? there are several links and things that it says to install...


Posted by: roscoe2041

I know this is works on Sprint 6800 HTC Mogul, but will it work on Alltel's service? Because I'm trying it out on this bad boy and it's not playing nice.

Also, does it have to be WM6 or does 5 suffice?


Posted by: Transponder

I've installed this and works great. With the big clock I don't need the little one at the top of the screen. How do I change that to the battery indicator like Yozh has in his picture?


Posted by: codeworks

Previously someone asked for those who installed this on their Tilt, what were the exact steps they followed (which files, etc?)..

Although I am rather technical, I just picked up the Tilt today and really do not want to risk it at this point. The download site almost makes you think you are installing a new ROM. Is that true? Or is this just a homescreen plugin?

Thanks for all your help.


Posted by: iboj007

Quote:
Originally Posted by codeworks
Previously someone asked for those who installed this on their Tilt, what were the exact steps they followed (which files, etc?)..

Although I am rather technical, I just picked up the Tilt today and really do not want to risk it at this point. The download site almost makes you think you are installing a new ROM. Is that true? Or is this just a homescreen plugin?

Thanks for all your help.


1. Download the latest version of the software. There will be 2 cabs in the file.
2. transfer both CAB files to your device or memory card.
3. Find the CAB files and first, run the "OEMsign2007cert.cab"
4. Run the Kaiser.HTC.Home.v2.0.814.722.HTCHome.Dir.With.Brig htness.fix.updated.01oct2007-schen.cab file. Your device will then prompt you to reset. Accept the reset.


Posted by: RF9

Any way to get rid of that giant clock? What a freakin' waste of space.
I guess I'll install it and find out for myself.


Posted by: VTECaddict

anyone figured out how to remove the taskbar clock and add a battery indicator? its a little redundant to have the little clock along with the giant clock on the HTC Home plugin.


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECaddict
anyone figured out how to remove the taskbar clock and add a battery indicator? its a little redundant to have the little clock along with the giant clock on the HTC Home plugin.

Try this registry settings.

Show Time,Date,both or Battery on top bar at Today screen
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\]
Time:
"ShowTitleBarClock"=1 / "TBOpt"=1
Date:
"ShowTitleBarClock"=1 / "TBOpt"=2
Both:
"ShowTitleBarClock"=1 / "TBOpt"=3
Nothing:
"ShowTitleBarClock"=1 / "TBOpt"=0
Battery:
"ShowTitleBarClock"=0 / "TBOpt"=1

Enjoy


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

I jus removed the little clock in the top bar in the main screen and added the battery indicator...I like the big clock..but anywhere else away from the big screen, I have the little clock displayed...


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by i880/8525junkie
I jus removed the little clock in the top bar in the main screen and added the battery indicator...I like the big clock..but anywhere else away from the big screen, I have the little clock displayed...

Did the above method work ?


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

All I did was use the Advanced Configuration Tool that comes with Schap's WM6 Rom... I do still have my 8525...


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by i880/8525junkie
All I did was use the Advanced Configuration Tool that comes with Schap's WM6 Rom... I do still have my 8525...

Oh okie. Lol you might need a nick change now


Posted by: i880/8525junkie

I'm dying to get my TyTn II...


Posted by: thebigmouth

I mistakenly erased the shortcut for Wireless Connections from the Launcher. Now, when I try to add a program, Wireless Connections is not among the list of programs I can select. Anyone know how to add it back? Preferably without changing the registry?


Posted by: iLLestOne

Just put it on my tilt...it's pretty cool...

I dunno if I like it as much as my resco exploror, Spb Mobile Shell, Spb Phone Suite combo I had on my 8525...i'll prob use this for a week to see if it can live up to that treo, lol


Posted by: pcmike

Forget that, just install SPB

That's what I'll be doing later tonight...


Posted by: luv2hum

how do i change the weather plugin on the htc home screen to use fernheight degrees and not celcius?
thanks


Posted by: thebigmouth

Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2hum
how do i change the weather plugin on the htc home screen to use fernheight degrees and not celcius?
thanks

Go to the same screen where you select a city.

Click on Menu, then "Weather Options." Fahrenheit should be one of the choices.


Posted by: luv2hum

Quote:
Originally Posted by yozh
go to the where you select the city and click on the button options.

sorry...thanks


Posted by: VTECaddict

Quote:
Originally Posted by i880/8525junkie
I jus removed the little clock in the top bar in the main screen and added the battery indicator...I like the big clock..but anywhere else away from the big screen, I have the little clock displayed...

tap the giant clock on the HTC Home plugin to open the clock settings. select the more tab. uncheck the box for display the clock on the titlebar in all programs.


Posted by: iLLestOne

Okay....i installed this, but where the hell is the battery meter!? Should I just do the reg edit like posted above, or what?! I LIKE having the time in the top, so when I'm on a call and such it is always there...but I also like to be able to look at my battery life.

I was going to create a shortcut for it, but with the plugin, "power" isn't listed in the programs.....


Posted by: VTECaddict

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLLestOne
Okay....i installed this, but where the hell is the battery meter!? Should I just do the reg edit like posted above, or what?! I LIKE having the time in the top, so when I'm on a call and such it is always there...but I also like to be able to look at my battery life.

I was going to create a shortcut for it, but with the plugin, "power" isn't listed in the programs.....

download HTC Home Customizer. it lets you change what's displayed on the taskbar (time, battery, etc) as well as a bunch of settings for the HTC Home plugin (like adding custom cities to the weather page) without editing the registry or anything like that.

once you have the battery on the taskbar, you can just tap it and it will open the full battery meter page.


Posted by: Ziploker

how can i make htc home screen grey.. like this

http://handy.ru/upimg/d_9292.jpg


ive tried both versions on the 1st post, but the only colors i get are

1_at&t
guava bubbles
windows defaut (blue)
mindows mobile (green)


Posted by: thebigmouth

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziploker
how can i make htc home screen grey.. like this

http://handy.ru/upimg/d_9292.jpg


ive tried both versions on the 1st post, but the only colors i get are

1_at&t
guava bubbles
windows defaut (blue)
mindows mobile (green)

You have to download that theme from the web. It's called the HTC Home theme, or something like that.


Posted by: iLLestOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ziploker
how can i make htc home screen grey.. like this

http://handy.ru/upimg/d_9292.jpg


ive tried both versions on the 1st post, but the only colors i get are

1_at&t
guava bubbles
windows defaut (blue)
mindows mobile (green)


I used this:
http://freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-dow...-wm6-theme.html


Posted by: iLLestOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECaddict
download HTC Home Customizer. it lets you change what's displayed on the taskbar (time, battery, etc) as well as a bunch of settings for the HTC Home plugin (like adding custom cities to the weather page) without editing the registry or anything like that.

once you have the battery on the taskbar, you can just tap it and it will open the full battery meter page.


dl'ed v8, and all it lest me choose is the time....nothing about putting the battery up there

EDIT: Now for some reason, when I'm on a call, I can hear myself talk.....I have NO idea why this happend.....

Anyone know how to fix it!? Only thing I did was install HTC Home Customizer and the audio plugin.....


Posted by: iLLestOne

HELP!!!! Someone?!

I can hear myself, through the earpeice when I talk....dunno wtf happend!


Posted by: luv2hum

i also think i can hear myself through tthe earpiece, it sounds almost robotic...very strange, did not havae this problem with the 8525, what is the fix? thanks


Posted by: VTECaddict

i noticed this from day 1 with a fully stock Tilt. sounds like my friends' CDMA Verizon phones.


Posted by: URPREY

Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2hum
i also think i can hear myself through tthe earpiece, it sounds almost robotic...very strange, did not havae this problem with the 8525, what is the fix? thanks

Same here. WTF?


Posted by: luv2hum

i have searched, does this require another thread? i can not seem to find a fix listed


Posted by: iLLestOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by luv2hum
i have searched, does this require another thread? i can not seem to find a fix listed



I have searched here, and google, and xda, and haven't found anything

I'm sure it's just a setting in the reg.....but which one is the 1000 dollar question! lol


Posted by: luv2hum

it seems like it is a volume setting somewhere...but i dont know how to tweak it.


Posted by: JP Whoregan

just get the htc rom, flash the ATT garbage off, then you'll get the b/w HTC home screen.


Posted by: iLLestOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by JP Whoregan
just get the htc rom, flash the ATT garbage off, then you'll get the b/w HTC home screen.


I was thinking about doing this...have you had any problems with thier ROM!? I mean, the kaiser has a front camera, so I just figured some stuff might be messed up if you change the tilt to that ROM....

How is your battery life?! Any neg's of HTC's rom!?


Posted by: snathanb

Wow... the plugin/customizer combo is great!


Posted by: Ziploker

Quote:
Originally Posted by iLLestOne



thanks.. thats what i was lookin for.. this phone kicks ***


Posted by: tom1234

hi guys , i am newb here how do you copy the cab.file to the device, will some one help thanks


Posted by: VTECaddict

activesync, explore files, drag and drop.


Posted by: atttiltnoobie

Just used the weather plug and its great. i am wondering though does anyone know how to changed the temperature from celsius to fahrenhheit?
Thanks


Posted by: iLLestOne

Quote:
Originally Posted by atttiltnoobie
Just used the weather plug and its great. i am wondering though does anyone know how to changed the temperature from celsius to fahrenhheit?
Thanks


Click on your city, then when its at the "Select city" screen, Go down to menu (right soft key), then "Weather options"


Posted by: ilvla2

I'd like to know how to add my city (Redwood Valley), the closest one it lists (Santa Rosa) is 70 miles south of here, and our weather and their weather can be very different.


Posted by: yozh

Quote:
Originally Posted by ilvla2
I'd like to know how to add my city (Redwood Valley), the closest one it lists (Santa Rosa) is 70 miles south of here, and our weather and their weather can be very different.

Please read the instruction at the link in the first post


Posted by: ilvla2

Thanks, I'll check it out


Posted by: elite_is3

are u suppose to uninstall the original "HTC home" set that includes the Battery indicator, comm manager, etc. i didnt do that but so far it works fine, instrutions said previous version so i didnt know if thats what it meant...can someone clue me in?


Posted by: msak007

Quote:
Originally Posted by elite_is3
are u suppose to uninstall the original "HTC home" set that includes the Battery indicator, comm manager, etc. i didnt do that but so far it works fine, instrutions said previous version so i didnt know if thats what it meant...can someone clue me in?

I didn't uninstall anything. When you go to your "Today" setting (Start --> Settings --> Personal --> Today), go to the "Items" tab at the bottom and you should see one called "HTCHomeplug". Uncheck it and if you installed everything correctly, there should be one called "HTC Home" which is the original Home plugin you want to enable.


Posted by: garrym13

Would someone give me a step by step on how to do this? I have been trying to install this for the past four days now and have come up with nothing. I modded mj BJ to the gills but I cannot figure this damn 8525 out. I have tried the couple of how to's in this thread and the link. I guess I am havving a brain fart week.


Posted by: gbothepro

1. Download the cab to your PC.
2. Synchronize your divice to your PC, and open the explore tab
3. Once you download the cab, you should find it on my documents on your PC
4. Click and drag the cab file from my documents to your mobile device
5. On your mobile device, go to start>programs>tools>file explorer look for the cab click on it. IT will start loading, if not it will take to a zip click on the file twice and it should start loading.


Doesn't this cab only works for WM6? That is probably why you are having problems installing it.


Posted by: garrym13

Quote:
Originally Posted by gbothepro
1. Download the cab to your PC.
2. Synchronize your divice to your PC, and open the explore tab
3. Once you download the cab, you should find it on my documents on your PC
4. Click and drag the cab file from my documents to your mobile device
5. On your mobile device, go to start>programs>tools>file explorer look for the cab click on it. IT will start loading, if not it will take to a zip click on the file twice and it should start loading.


Doesn't this cab only works for WM6? That is probably why you are having problems installing it.


I did those exact steps, therefore I am not slipping in the brain dept. I guess you are right about it only working on WM6, but the thread title said 8525 and I assumed WM5 would work.


Posted by: gbothepro

it really shoudnt be a problem if you follow those steps. maybe someone who installed it on their 8525 could help you. or you can flash your phone with WM6. or you can just be patient and wait till att release an upgrade for WM6, which could be pretty soon.


Posted by: ron808

So, it should be working fine on WM6 and not on WM5?

That's probably why I have to reboot my 8525-WM5 and oftentimes it hangs up.

Is there a way to remove the programs (HTC home, Weather- it isn't working at all) without damaging the OS of my phone?

Thanks in advance.


Posted by: gbothepro

To remove it, go to start>settings>click on the system tab>remove programs.
click on HTC home, then remove button. Same for weather fix. Hope this helps.


Posted by: bubblebz

thanks yozh, i've been looking for this!


Posted by: DomiNAT3

how come when I installed all of the CAB's I only have like the little clock section in black and the rest of the today screen is still my default blue?


Posted by: garrym13

Quote:
Originally Posted by DomiNAT3
how come when I installed all of the CAB's I only have like the little clock section in black and the rest of the today screen is still my default blue?

I think that you need to go to settings--->today---->Items and chose HTC home to show on the Todays screen


Posted by: blutruck

Quote:
Originally Posted by DomiNAT3
how come when I installed all of the CAB's I only have like the little clock section in black and the rest of the today screen is still my default blue?


The plug in does not change your theme color. To do that you need to download this file http://freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-dow...-wm6-theme.html found in this thread: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1267549



Posted by: DomiNAT3

yea thanx I dl'd the HTC theme from the freeware site but now where can I find like a black dialing pad ?


Posted by: jst51

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339682 or here
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-skin.html


Posted by: DomiNAT3

thanx, funny I knew freeware would have it but for some reason when I searched for it nothing came up? oo well thanx


Posted by: nbarksda

I found that kaisertweak seems to allow the battery to be in the title bar.
It also enable hsdpa, which at&t disabled...typical


Posted by: URPREY

Quote:
Originally Posted by nbarksda
It also enable hsdpa, which at&t disabled...typical

HSPDA is enabled by default on the AT&T ROM.


Posted by: lordvaderr

Please help
i tryed all the downloads still not able to get wether back on



Quote:
Originally Posted by yozh
Since ATT decided to leave this great feature out and so many people are wondering how to do this.

Here are the links that you might need. Please read the instructions.

Kaiser HTC Home v.2.0.814.722

Kaiser HTC Home v.2.0.720719 BW and Color

HTC Homeplug Weather fix

This works both on TILT/8925 and 8525. Please read instructions in the posts provided. Usually its as simple as installing a cab. Thank you and enjoy.

P.S. For those that dont know what touch plugin looks like here is a picture.



Posted by: stemplin

disregard, found answer




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