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Originally Posted by obstacles can kill
the fact that you are affiliated with AT&T in any sort of way considering your "views" and "opinions" on the customers that are the reasons you are employed just really sickens me. it's employees like you that make it a pain for the useful employees who actually care about making the customer happy...
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Originally Posted by cingman66
What a piece of work you are...how will I ever sleep tonight knowing you disapprove of me so much.
You know, it really is possible to make customers happy and still turn a profit...too bad AT&T doesn't know how to do this yet. |
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Originally Posted by ivwshane
I'd say that any company that posts billion dollar profits has a pretty good idea on how to make customers happy and turn a profit at the same time
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
*did you like the subject change there?* see what i did there? yup...
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
Well, he went back to the other store later on to try and return his phone within his 30 days (assuming it was the phone) and they pulled up his account and saw that his RIM 8100 (Pearl) had insurance on it and they removed it! REMOVED IT!
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Originally Posted by tomek385
customer comes into store thinking about upgrading his onld MOT V551 to possibly a curve. Excellent. customer asks me a question as follows....
How many minutes will i need to be able to access the internet and my personal e-mail? WOAH he did not just ask that. So then the explaining goes forth. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
I have seen this first hand with the pearl. I even tried adding pay per use for a customer, and it worked for like 3 weeks and then stopped working. She was so mad, but I don't decide what works and doesn't. Originally I told her she needed the bb package. My manager suggested ppu. MMS will not work with the Pearl unless they have the BB package.
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Originally Posted by krisguy
Yep, that also includes any WM devices as well. Curve is the only one I've found that works with PPU.
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Never had issues with a WM device sending MMS with ppu.
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
How about this one.. a customer came in and asked me if they had to have the Blackberry Data Package in order to send and receive picture messages. When I told him no, he just had to have a messaging plan, he informed me that he had the family messaging unlimited on his account. So I got a little curious and pulled up his account. He did have the fam text unl on his acct so I then made sure that his wireless internet pay per use was on his line. It was.
Well, he'd been to another store and they said that he had to have the Blackberry Data Package in order to Send and Receive Picture Messages. When I told him that they were incorrect, he told me that he knew they were because his g.f. only had the fam text unl and she could send and receive pics just fine. Well, he went back to the other store later on to try and return his phone within his 30 days (assuming it was the phone) and they pulled up his account and saw that his RIM 8100 (Pearl) had insurance on it and they removed it! REMOVED IT! So they have misinformed this customer more than once, and had sent him to our store TWICE just for him to tell his story to us. It stinks because it was an agent store, and we're agents as well so we couldn't do an exchange or help him in any way because it was too late to re-add his insurance and we did all the trouble-shooting we could. It just pissed me off that people were completely ignorant and messed up TWICE on one guy. What else do they NOT KNOW? Ugh. |
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Originally Posted by Skins_kg
Never had issues with a WM device sending MMS with ppu. |
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Originally Posted by davetv77
That is correct only the Curve can as its software will allow it. When the new software update comes out in like a month or so then the pearl will be able to send MMS as well. Please don't bash other agents when you yourself are incorrect. Yes they were incorrect about the insurance but they were right about the MMS messaging. Just wanted to clear this up.
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
Well, is that true? I'm pretty sure that our REGIONAL at&t rep told me that there was a certain pay per use that you had to put on the pearl, but it would work without the blackberry package... so??? I don't know, maybe her 15 yrs of service to the company hasn't done any good for her... She works at the main corporate office in the third biggest city in Indiana... and we're getting 3g soon. So maybe I was misinformed by her,
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
I wna shoot myself in the foot. I don't get it. How does his gf and bff and brother have it? I looked at his gf's acct but not his bff and he's on his brother's and mother's account so how come it's working for them? I am so friggin confused here. I see what you were saying about CSP tho. Thanks. I really didn't think it showed prerequisites like that.
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Originally Posted by Skins_kg
Off topic, but just wanted to add that I chuckled a little bit at "third biggest city in Indiana." I thought Indiana only had one city!
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
It's okay, I just hate it when people think that people who live in Indiana are soo country. I've never even seen a tractor and I am very "city oriented"... I love having the world at my fingertips... and I hate it when people think just because I live in Indiana - I'm a friggin hick. I do like country music though...
Basically, I was just trying to prove we weren't just some dumb hicks by saying that... and the rambling continues... ugh. Lemme put it this way - we're similar to Indianapolis. |
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Originally Posted by Skins_kg
According to this you live in Evansville, which is where I went to college and not very similar to Indy IMO.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_by_population |
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Originally Posted by Skins_kg
Had a lady yesterday who's son just turned ten...TEN...Well she loved him so much.. He left with a Blackberry Pearl...$99.99 unlimited voice..$30 BB Personal...$20 Messaging... and then my favorite part.. mom says "Of course he needs insurance he is only ten!"...
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
I'm sorry I post so much but this one is toooo great to let go...
*Phone rings, I answer* Me: ****** Wireless (we're an agent) Cust: Who? *I repeat* Cust: Oh, I thought I was calling cingular. Me: Well, we sell at&t, we're an authorized agent - we just aren't owned by the company of at&t. Cust: Well, I have cingular. Me: Yes, ma'am. I understand that, but at&t bought out cingular. Cust: But you just told me that you weren't cingular. Me: We aren't. We are an authorized retailer of at&t and since at&t bought out cingular, then cingular is no more. Cust: Well, I have cingular and my son has at&t and I want to look at my bill. Me: Well I can help you go over your bill with you if you'd like. Cust: YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT YOU WEREN'T CINGULAR!! Me: Ma'am, we are at&t. Cingular no longer exists as a company. At&t and cingular have combined so now you are a customer of at&t. Now, I am an authorized agent of at&t - the only difference is, my store is not owned by the company of At&t. We are owned privately. We can still answer any questions you have, set up service, upgrade, and add things to your account if you would like. Cust: I just don't understand you. I'm sorry. I'm going to hang up now... Me: *completely dumbfounded* I know that I made it a little more difficult, but this went on for about ten minutes and she kept saying I was lying to her and that I said at first we were "*** wireless" and not cingular... when we are required to answer the phone that way, so then the explaining begins... sigh. |
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Originally Posted by cingman66
First of all, you should have just said, "Yes, this is Cingular" and been done with it. Second, AT&T did NOT buy out Cingular...it is the other way around. No wonder the poor woman was confused.
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Originally Posted by NukuCamui
Um, WHAT? What is the name of the company now? NOT Cingular.
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Originally Posted by Skins_kg
Had a lady yesterday who's son just turned ten...TEN...Well she loved him so much.. He left with a Blackberry Pearl...$99.99 unlimited voice..$30 BB Personal...$20 Messaging... and then my favorite part.. mom says "Of course he needs insurance he is only ten!"...
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Originally Posted by NukuCamui
Um, WHAT? What is the name of the company now? NOT Cingular.
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Originally Posted by cingman66
First of all, you should have just said, "Yes, this is Cingular" and been done with it. Second, AT&T did NOT buy out Cingular...it is the other way around. No wonder the poor woman was confused.
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Originally Posted by Really_Annoyed
As a sales rep, the correct response should've been "do you have any other children?"
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Originally Posted by cingman66
Just had a lady whose charging pin broke off in the phone, and she wants to know why that isn't covered by warranty. Ummm, physical damage is not a warranty item, dear.
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Originally Posted by sowire
I think I need to cancel
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Originally Posted by KG4PEQ
"Here you go, lady. Call this number. Customer Care will be delighted to explain your early termination fee."
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Reality can really hurt for some folks
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Originally Posted by icesk8rwnabe
Wow. Good job. And I consider us similar to Indy. I was born and raised here and I love it. There's a lot to do here, and I went to college here myself. Like I said - I just didn't want people to be like... ohhhh she's from INDIANA... woo hoo. Lot of smart people there... I'm surprised they know what a cell phone is... *I know a few people from NY and FL like that.*
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Originally Posted by indiana-moto
Don't feel bad, I live and work in Indiana as well. I have found many customers traveling through my town from outside the state, with phone problems, try and treat me like a hick.
"Yes sir, let me show you this Abiicus thang, you can see your interweb mail from it" If you don't get the joke, I'll explain. Abacus becomes modern calculator, modern calculator becomes modern computer... and so on. And I spelled abacus wrong on purpose...lol |
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Originally Posted by cingman66
Just had to vent:
Stupid customer comes in and hands me her old Nokia 6102, and her new Sony 580i that she just bought online (anyone who knows me knows where this is headed) and asks me to transfer all her information to her new phone. Here's my dilemma: Being a naturally pleasant and helpful person, how do I blow off this nice customer and tell her where to stick her shiny new phone? I mean, this girl can't even get the backs off of either phone, and there is no way she is going to be able to locate the SIM in the Sony phone. Really, why does the eStore put a new SIM into these phones, then never activate them? Anyway, I tried to explain to this customer that the reason there are stores in the first place is to help with these "intricate" matters and provide the proper service required to make sure her phone was fully operational. She said, "Well, that's why I'm here." After the smoke disappeared from my ears, I replied, "Well, if you would like to continue to have stores to go into for this kind of help, then you need to start purchasing your phones IN the (damn) stores." |
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Originally Posted by Edeescam
I have a stupid employee action of the day story:
I walk into a store at the mall to grab a refurb iphone, so he goes in back and grabs one. He asks if I have a contract and I say no. So he punches some stuff up in the computer, runs a credit check etc and then says he wants to set me up with a plan online. I tell him no, I will do it through itunes because I do not know which plan I want. He insists then wants me to sign something to tie me into a 2 year contract! The nerve! So I say no and walk out. Now here is the smart employee of the day: The following day I go into another store, ask for the refurb iphone. Guy brings one out and asks for my e-mail and name. I make up some name and email and pay the man and walk out. I go home and ziphone my phone, pop in my old sim and bingo! I sell my old phone for $140 on ebay and now have a nice unlocked iphone for $60 ![]() |
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Originally Posted by yvonnebrc
Our store was having kind of a problem with internet sales recently. We were getting backed up 10 - 12 customers daily with half of them being internet sales just needing help activating their new phone. It begain to cost us actual business. About 4 mo ago we started charging a flat rate to all cust needing this kind of service who DID NOT purchase anything in our store. We wave this fee if you actually shopped in our store. It had really helped cut down the people who want to save online and them come get our free service. Yesterday I had more internet cust than I have had since we instituted the fee. I explained to one that we would transfer all pictures, contacts and teach him about his new phones for our fee. He thinks it over and agrees to pay. Not 3 feet behind him was another woman wanting the same thing except she has a smartphone and wants a full lesson on how to use it. I explain that we do charge a fee to service her phone but I would be more than glad to help her learn her new phone and even set up her email on it. To which she responds "what the F***! You have got to be F***ing kidding me." Ma'am I apologize but we will not be able to service you today. Have a nice day and please refrain from using that language again until you are out of my store.
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Originally Posted by classylady78
The first guy was the smart one, the second guy was the dumb one. The rep gets NO credit if you don't activate your phone through iTunes and get the 2 year contract.
I wouldn't have sold it to you. It is a waste of time and inventory. |
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Originally Posted by Edeescam
They still get @$200 tax. To me that is a fair deal.
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and wanted to see what we have for him. Well he had a past due balance on the account just by 3 days but still it has to be paid or I cant do anything. After explaining this to him to starts to go off on how there is no way there can be a past due on the account and that he always pays his bills on time. Well not this one.
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Originally Posted by Edeescam
I have a stupid employee action of the day story:
I walk into a store at the mall to grab a refurb iphone, so he goes in back and grabs one. He asks if I have a contract and I say no. So he punches some stuff up in the computer, runs a credit check etc and then says he wants to set me up with a plan online. I tell him no, I will do it through itunes because I do not know which plan I want. He insists then wants me to sign something to tie me into a 2 year contract! The nerve! So I say no and walk out. Now here is the smart employee of the day: The following day I go into another store, ask for the refurb iphone. Guy brings one out and asks for my e-mail and name. I make up some name and email and pay the man and walk out. I go home and ziphone my phone, pop in my old sim and bingo! I sell my old phone for $140 on ebay and now have a nice unlocked iphone for $60 ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Edeescam
They still get @$200 tax. To me that is a fair deal.
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Originally Posted by classylady78
The first guy was the smart one, the second guy was the dumb one. The rep gets NO credit if you don't activate your phone through iTunes and get the 2 year contract.
I wouldn't have sold it to you. It is a waste of time and inventory. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
AT&T gets $200, the rep gets 0. Of course it is a fair deal to you.
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Originally Posted by neodamonkey
You sir are one of the reasons we go on here to rant.....
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Originally Posted by neodamonkey
Ok I got one. Customer came in the store with an "upgrade advantage card"
and wanted to see what we have for him. Well he had a past due balance on the account just by 3 days but still it has to be paid or I cant do anything. After explaining this to him to starts to go off on how there is no way there can be a past due on the account and that he always pays his bills on time. Well not this one. So then he goes off on a rant about how his wife probably sent in a check, well mister customer it takes a few days to clear so you will have to wait til then. Then he demands that I call customer service and get it fixed, nope there is nothing that they can do until the bill is posted. THEN he goes off about then why did att send him the upgrade card if his account was past due and that he just recieved it about 4 days ago. Wellllllll..... You know it does take a few days to print and then since it was mailed you know that is not done same day it takes a few days to mail someone something and since your balance is only a few days late.... Get where I am going? Well the customer could not understand this AT ALL. ![]() |
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Originally Posted by cotjocky
Now if he's asking you to help him with it or something else, yeah, it's a bother. But if he just wants to outright buy a phone and then walk out the door and all you gotta do is ring it up, I don't see what the big deal is. Especially if they aren't trying to haggle you on the price of the item.
I completely understand about time and knowledge, if someone is sucking up your time and you are teaching them something, they owe you. If they want to gripe about the price, you should get something out of it as well for dealing with their annoying butt. If someone merely wants to make a purchase that requires nothing more than to punch a couple buttons on the cash register, get over it, ring it up and move on to someone you can make money off of. You should know that with a customer like that, they already know what you don't want them to know and you aren't going to make any money on them. Save yourself and 10 other stores (you know he'll keep going to stores til he finds one that will give him what he wants) the hassle of arguing this. What would it take, 3 minutes and he would be gone? |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
The point is we don't sell phones we sell service. The iphone getting hacked and sold makes our company no money. And we do not have to sell it to him. We did not rant about this customer, he ranted about the rep who wouldn't sell it to him. And I said I am one who wouldn't sell it to him. If you came in to buy a phone outright and didn't have an account, we are not supposed to sell you the phone. The original store may have set up a policy to run credit or put the iphone on an account when selling it to deter people hacking them and selling them online.
Say we only have 10 refurbs in stock. And we go ahead and sell someone one who doesn't activate it....the 11th person who would make us and the company money walks out. I am not saying if a customer makes me no money I don't help them. If they have an issue. But this guy is doing something against our company policy. You don't have to like it, but I wouldn't have sold it if he acted like that. Management has said in my area, if someone is acting phishy, that we do not have to sell it to them. We also cannot sell more than 2 to the same customer, regardless of how far apart the sales are, or what they say it is for. |
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Originally Posted by cotjocky
You go ahead and preach "Policy", but one day you will find yourself on the recieving end of what is "Policy".
Also giving Morphine Sulfate (Pain Medication) is at my discretion of whether the patient needs it or not. ![]() |
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Originally Posted by cotjocky
You go ahead and preach "Policy", but one day you will find yourself on the recieving end of what is "Policy".
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Originally Posted by cotjocky
I will be the first to say, I do not work for AT&T, never have. Therfore I do not know AT&T policy. But most who preach "policy" do so to defend their actions when they do things that suit their own purpose.
And you are incorrect in that you do not sell phones because if you didn't, you wouldn't have any "phones" in the store. I don't think all phones are given out for free either. And don't try to say our company makes "no money" as this is not about "the company", this is about "you" not making any money on that phone. Everyone wants to make money, I understand it. I want to make money! I don't work for free, but I also comprehend "understanding", "reasoning" and "compassion". That's why I do what I do for a living. I understand that the 11th customer could have made you money, but I also understand you will find yourself one day in a place hoping that someone won't stick you with the "policy" crap. As my avatar simply shows, I work as a paramedic. It is a fact that we have "Policy", "Procedure" and "Protocols". These are a "guideline" to help you do your job well, not something that has to always be followed to the strictest of meaning. Medicine is a practice and not a strict science regardless of how many people don't understand that. Two people with the exact symptoms will not always get the same treatment by the same or different "Doctors". Let me give you an example, it is "Policy" that someone in a auto accident needs an IV (intravenous) started to give them a bolus of fluids incase they may have internal inujuries and the fluids are to help offset internal blood loss. Do I give every auto accident patient and IV? Not if it is not neccissary. This is why God and teaching gave me decision making skills. Should I give one to someone who had a minor fender bender and is complaining of no pain, but wants to be transported to the ER just to be cautious? If I was to follow that "Policy" and I could not find a suitable site for an IV, per "Policy" I am allowd to start what is called an IO (Intraosseous), meaning I take a gun with a large needle, drill it in your leg right below you knee cap to give you the fluid and meds. I've given these before in patient's that honestly really needed fluids and their was no other way to get it done. I will honestly tell you it hurts really bad. Generally the patient screams when it is done and throughout the process from their forward. So if I get that patient that had a minor fender bender, I was a stickler for "Policy" and could not find a suitable site for an IV, that person would get a hole drilled in their leg to get fluids that 99% chance was completely unneccissary. You go ahead and preach "Policy", but one day you will find yourself on the recieving end of what is "Policy". Also giving Morphine Sulfate (Pain Medication) is at my discretion of whether the patient needs it or not. ![]() |
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Originally Posted by cotjocky
It is a fact that we have "Policy", "Procedure" and "Protocols". These are a "guideline" to help you do your job well, not something that has to always be followed to the strictest of meaning. |
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Originally Posted by cotjocky
Let me give you an example, it is "Policy" that someone in a auto accident needs an IV (intravenous) started to give them a bolus of fluids incase they may have internal inujuries and the fluids are to help offset internal blood loss. Do I give every auto accident patient and IV? Not if it is not neccissary. This is why God and teaching gave me decision making skills. Should I give one to someone who had a minor fender bender and is complaining of no pain, but wants to be transported to the ER just to be cautious?
If I was to follow that "Policy" and I could not find a suitable site for an IV, per "Policy" I am allowd to start what is called an IO (Intraosseous), meaning I take a gun with a large needle, drill it in your leg right below you knee cap to give you the fluid and meds. I've given these before in patient's that honestly really needed fluids and their was no other way to get it done. I will honestly tell you it hurts really bad. Generally the patient screams when it is done and throughout the process from their forward. So if I get that patient that had a minor fender bender, I was a stickler for "Policy" and could not find a suitable site for an IV, that person would get a hole drilled in their leg to get fluids that 99% chance was completely unneccissary. You go ahead and preach "Policy", but one day you will find yourself on the recieving end of what is "Policy". Also giving Morphine Sulfate (Pain Medication) is at my discretion of whether the patient needs it or not. ![]() |
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Originally Posted by cingman66
Just had to vent:
Stupid customer comes in and hands me her old Nokia 6102, and her new Sony 580i that she just bought online (anyone who knows me knows where this is headed) and asks me to transfer all her information to her new phone. Here's my dilemma: Being a naturally pleasant and helpful person, how do I blow off this nice customer and tell her where to stick her shiny new phone? I mean, this girl can't even get the backs off of either phone, and there is no way she is going to be able to locate the SIM in the Sony phone. Really, why does the eStore put a new SIM into these phones, then never activate them? Anyway, I tried to explain to this customer that the reason there are stores in the first place is to help with these "intricate" matters and provide the proper service required to make sure her phone was fully operational. She said, "Well, that's why I'm here." After the smoke disappeared from my ears, I replied, "Well, if you would like to continue to have stores to go into for this kind of help, then you need to start purchasing your phones IN the (damn) stores." |
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Straight from the rules for this forum: This place is akin to an employee break room.
Non-employees, please treat it as such. Now, EMPLOYEES, back to your regularly scheduled banter ![]() |
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Originally Posted by Wrangler3383
Please keep to the thread topic... thanks.
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Originally Posted by stivo1982
...unfortunately my store has the speed of fema during a natural disaster on a good day....i am so bored
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Originally Posted by jayuup
Me: *gets up on the soapbox and tries on his booming voice for size* "Unlocking an Iphone voids the warranty and also limits any customer service ability from ANY APPLE and ATT Service channel. I am sorry that you paid 600 dollars for what is now essentially a brick, but thats the risk you take when you dont buy from an authorized dealer and buy a device that HAS NO WARRANTY. Now I have REAL customers standing in line with actual issues that wasn't caused by VOIDING the warranty, and your taking up Their time. So if you can get all 1,2,3,4,5,6, 7....seven of them to agree to let me spend the better part of the next hour explaining to you why your screwed on this phone....id be happy to do it. They sold you, essentially a broken device, a device that Apple will not repair or replace. I have two options....take this device back to the place you bought it from or I have a new Iphone and rate plan waiting for you, shall I start the paperwork? Ill even let you keep your tmobile number....." It takes a lot to get my goat, but when you mess with the bull, you get the horns. My previous cust service job was as a manager at an airport. I was the guy who had to tell people that their flight was cancelled, or they were getting bumped. I am the go-to person at my store when the managers are too chicken to handle an unruly customer, which sadly happens way too much. |
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Originally Posted by Edeescam
Yeah but you can always "virginize" the iphone and take it back to Apple.
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Originally Posted by JP Whoregan
I'm sure Apple has people way smarter than you and me that can figure out
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Originally Posted by classylady78
I had a customer today who tried to warranty out their iphone with Apple, and got denied because he hacked the iphone.....but he said it was "virginized"....
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Originally Posted by Edeescam
Could just microwave it for a few seconds
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Originally Posted by cingman66
OK...women comes in to pay her bill-cash. Starts to complain that AT&T stole her rollover minutes. She says that just the other day she had over 3000 minutes saved up, but today there are only 1400. I ask her the obvious question--"Did you recently change your plan?" to which she adamantly responds, "No." I get curious and look up her account, and lo and behold there was a rate plan change done a few days ago to the FT 1400 plan. When I show her the screen, she gives me that sheepish "Oops, I guess you got me" look.
Why do some customers think they can just make stuff up and we'll just believe it. And like there was anything I could have done about it even IF her minutes were 'stolen'. LOL |
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Originally Posted by JP Whoregan
Discounting for the sake of "saving" a sale never really works (it works under some circustances). If you drop your pants $20, all that does is encourage most morons to try to get you to drop your pants all the way to the ankles. In other words, once you reveal to the cheap-o that you actually have the ability to move the price, NOW they're not buying anything unless it's "discounted".
My MO recently has been this: looking at a $100 phone, they're trying to get it for $50.....all I do is walk them over to a phone that is $50. If they don't see the value in the $100 phone, then there's no reason they should be buying it in the first place, so therefore, there's no reason to talk about discounting the $100 phone. I discount for the following reasons: 1. Good repeat customer who never asks for discounts 2. If I don't have the phone they want, I'll discount to get them into a comperable phone 3. If the customer is looking to take a data feature, and is maybe on the fence about the feature, I'm more likely to move on the phone price, but I use the data feature as a condition for the discount. 4. And finally, I will price match the internet within reason. No matching Wirefly or any other scam discounters. |
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Originally Posted by ivwshane
I agree except for #3.
We had a customer who wanted a couple of lines and asked what we could do for him on the price of phones since he was getting all these different features. The phones were discounted heavily and the features were added. Fast forward a month and a half and he came in wanting all features removed! Unfortunately the person working with him the 2nd time was not aware of the deal and removed the features. Most de-acts I see are from people that were given additional discounts to close the sale. It's also why I disagree with the policy of having to have a $20 media plan to get a $20 discount, there is no value created when the customer feels they have to get something in order to get the lower price. |