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K850i Impressions, Pics, & Sample Pics

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Posted by: Chronism

Just received my K850i today. Overall so far, I'm very impressed with it. It feels comfortable in hand and the keypad is much easier to use than my K790a IMO. The touch soft keys are not that bad at all, I get response from them just fine. There is a rare occasion that I hit the middle soft key when pushing up on the D-Pad, but after a while you get a feel for how to touch/push the D-Pad.

Some have said the D-Pad is touch sensative, but it has to be pushed down and you feel the "click". At least on mine. The dedicated camera power button is nice, you can turn the camera on from any menu with a touch of a button, and when you are done, push the button and you are back in the same menu you left.

Haven't taken many pics, but of what I have, they have turned out well for auto. The camera is quicker than most cameraphones I have tried. The sample pic I have posted are in twilight in auto. There is a nice blue ring that lights up around the lens when you power on the camera.

Call quality and volume is typical SE, not very loud in the earpiece IMO. Overall build quality is solid, but the hinged door for the memory/sim card/battery can be a little iffy when opening and closing. You have to have it perfectly lined up and use a little force sometimes.

Here are some pics of the phone and samples below those:









Samples taken in twighlight in auto mode:








Posted by: BlueCalx

Nice pictures.. Thanks for the review as well.

Have you had any real issues with accidental presses of the softkeys, or problems with those softkeys responding? ie - it 'registers' 3 out of 5 presses or something?



Posted by: RevoWution

Nice mini-review

Haha all this K850i talk is really convincing me to get one, but I'm using all my willpower to tell myself that my K800i is still in perfect working order, so no need to change just yet

*urge to buy K850i... fading... fading... gone...* (for now)



Posted by: Chronism

I have not had any issue whatsoever with it recognising my touch. The only issue I had before getting a feel for it was accidently pressing the center soft key when you press up on the D-Pad.

The key for me it to press on the soft keys so the middle of your thumb is on the crack between the screen and housing. If you press on just the screen itself, it's a little high and it is then sketchy registering, at least for me.



Posted by: Heavy Fluid

Nice review, nice pictures, and nice car. Please tell me that it is a 5 speed.

Me likey.



Posted by: RevoWution

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Fluid
Nice review, nice pictures, and nice car. Please tell me that it is a 5 speed.

Me likey.


Nice looking house too, if I may add!



Posted by: cityhunter25

what are the functions of the dedicated ( if there is) answer and hangup buttons. can for example the hangup button can be used for going back in the menu or does it do like nokia and other phones and goes all the way to the main screen.

and for the answer button.. what happens when you press it when no one is calling and you did not input any number to call.



Posted by: ace587

can u take k790a and k850i comparison pics both at 3MP? Im really curious



Posted by: 4merly_blucific

thx for that...
sad that SE never increases the volume of their earpiece!! grrrrr
is the microphone still really sensitive to background noise?



Posted by: anotheran

@Chronism - how long does the camera module take to start up? and how long does it take between hitting the shutter button to taking the picture?



Posted by: omgitzdanny

Quote:
Originally Posted by cityhunter25
what are the functions of the dedicated ( if there is) answer and hangup buttons. can for example the hangup button can be used for going back in the menu or does it do like nokia and other phones and goes all the way to the main screen.

and for the answer button.. what happens when you press it when no one is calling and you did not input any number to call.


I'm guessing it's going to go to the standby screen 'cause in screenshots when browsing through the menus, one of the softkeys acts as a back button.

I believe it goes to the calls log when you press the answer button. Maybe someone can confirm these.



Posted by: Chronism

The END key will take you all the out to the standby screen. The ANSWER key will bring up the call list.

The camera startup is about 2 seconds from the time the button is pressed. Same from the time that you press the shutter key and it actually snaps the pic. That includes autofocus.

I will snap some comparison pics with the K790a shortly.



Posted by: darkninja

Thanks for the good little mini review with pics of the phone and from the phone. This will definitely be my next phone very soon .



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronism
The END key will take you all the out to the standby screen. The ANSWER key will bring up the call list.

The camera startup is about 2 seconds from the time the button is pressed. Same from the time that you press the shutter key and it actually snaps the pic. That includes autofocus.

I will snap some comparison pics with the K790a shortly.


sweet, thats what i want to see, how they are both are 3MP



Posted by: #29

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronism
Call quality and volume is typical SE, not very loud in the earpiece IMO. Overall build quality is solid, but the hinged door for the memory/sim card/battery can be a little iffy when opening and closing. You have to have it perfectly lined up and use a little force sometimes.



well that makes my decision easier..what good is a phone when i cannot hear the other person outdoors or mall etc..bad SE bad..



Posted by: samven582

I just have two questions for you

1-where did you buy the k850i from?

2-Is the screen and back cover easily scratchable?



Posted by: Chronism

I bought mine from www.cti-miami.com . I don't know about the casing being scratchable because I baby it right now, but it sure is a fingerprint and smudge magnet.

Here are some comparison photos next to the K790a:







Posted by: THETRUTH#34

now we need some photo comparisons k790 vs k850



Posted by: ace587

nice pics, can u post samples of k850i and k790a 3MP pics next to each other?



Posted by: Chronism

I will grab some comparison shots from each tomorrow in the daylight for best results and post back here!



Posted by: ace587

sweet, well look forward tom =)



Posted by: feej92

I think I'm sold iPhone affair might be over, back to my true SE love...



Posted by: Cementups

and earpiece volume is poor lik eevery other SE? My K790a wasn't very loud and after mine was stolen I got a Z710 and the same thing.

I am tossing an turning trying to decide if I shuld get teh K850 or buy the AT&T tilt (HTC 8925).



Posted by: lets_be_friends

is there a camera assist light for taking pictures, if you dont want to use the full on flash?



Posted by: bodeh6

Me wanty



Posted by: nokian73

So i checked it out today:
Nice phone wont regret.
Keypad - bad for texting, i didnt like it.
Backlighting amazing.
Touch sensitive - V.V.V.V.V.V Sensitive.
D-Pad - Very bad placement, keeps coming in the way
Phone - FAT lol
Camera - I like my k790a better.

Overall: Not worth anything close to $600



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
So i checked it out today:
Nice phone wont regret.
Keypad - bad for texting, i didnt like it.
Backlighting amazing.
Touch sensitive - V.V.V.V.V.V Sensitive.
D-Pad - Very bad placement, keeps coming in the way
Phone - FAT lol
Camera - I like my k790a better.

Overall: Not worth anything close to $600


ill take that advice



Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by ace587
ill take that advice


i think everyone should! unless they like wasting their money



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
i think everyone should! unless they like wasting their money


they dnt care its CYBERSHOTTTTTTTTTTTT



Posted by: McLaren_F1

Quote:
Originally Posted by ace587
they dnt care its CYBERSHOTTTTTTTTTTTT


No Carl Zeiss



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren_F1
No Carl Zeiss


yeah u ripped SE off



Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by McLaren_F1
No Carl Zeiss


your going to pay $600 for cybershot... i got myself a DSC-H3 with 4gb memory card for $450.
The k850 cant even come close to it and ur paying $600 . pshhhh!

Sorry but i am just pissed of at the fact that SE is coming out with such a bad bad bad lineup this season, its just pathetic to see.
I thought of coming back to SE, but im sticking with Nokia, and that doesnt do the trick either then im going back to OLD Phones
BTW: K800i was still the best phone out by SE



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
your going to pay $600 for cybershot... i got myself a DSC-H3 with 4gb memory card for $450.
The k850 cant even come close to it and ur paying $600 . pshhhh!


bah, sony alpha a-1200 for $600 with a decent stock lens, better deal!



Posted by: Paco

Gosh, the K850 makes the K790 look so old school. Definitely makes the K790's screen look so small!



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paco
Gosh, the K850 makes the K790 look so old school. Definitely makes the K790's screen look so small!


more juice to kill...



Posted by: Paco

Is that supposed to be a serious 'negative' of the phone? welcome to the 21st century. Phone screens are only getting bigger.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ace587
more juice to kill...




Posted by: Paco

Why would you compare a digital camera, with a Quad Band Global 3G GSM phone?

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
your going to pay $600 for cybershot... i got myself a DSC-H3 with 4gb memory card for $450.
The k850 cant even come close to it and ur paying $600 . pshhhh!




Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paco
Why would you compare a digital camera, with a Quad Band Global 3G GSM phone?


i didnt compare a digicam to a phone
its not even comparable
i was talking about the post that ppl dont care about the fone its cybershot.. so i said cybershot that is for $600 while a digicam is only like $300-400 for an amazing one to kick its ***



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paco
Is that supposed to be a serious 'negative' of the phone? welcome to the 21st century. Phone screens are only getting bigger.


bigger = better?

same resolution



Posted by: ace587

isnt k850i meant for photography?, then so its entitled to be compared



Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by ace587
isnt k850i meant for photography?, then so its entitled to be compared


thanks for the help ace for once



Posted by: jboston511

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
i think everyone should! unless they like wasting their money


The joy of having a semi disposable income at the moment, advise not taken, phone is on its way. Will take many many pictures with it this weekend and enjoy.



Posted by: SnooPPP

Got a question hopefully some lucky k850 owner can answer.

One thing that is important to me is watching videos on my phone. I own a k790a, and the video playback is decent. 320x240 vids, you get some artifacts on the screen, and it only runs smoothly stuff below 25fps.

Is the k850's video playback any better? If it's not, then I'm wondering if Nokia n95 8GB would do it better



Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnooPPP
Got a question hopefully some lucky k850 owner can answer.

One thing that is important to me is watching videos on my phone. I own a k790a, and the video playback is decent. 320x240 vids, you get some artifacts on the screen, and it only runs smoothly stuff below 25fps.

Is the k850's video playback any better? If it's not, then I'm wondering if Nokia n95 8GB would do it better


The n95 for sure will do a better job i can prolly say that for sure



Posted by: bothfly

To chime in.
I'm looking at the K850 and N95-3.
The N95-3 has 30 FPS in Video mode, the K850 has 15 FPS.
I had a N95-1 a while back and it was/is a great phone. But the battery sucked. Now the N95-3 has a fatter batt.
I also had a K790a and thought it was great.
I'm leaning towards the N95 just beacuse it can do more for the same price, mainly its running S60 os, and can do email PDF and office files, while the K850 cannot. Then there is the GPS as well.
But the K850 sure does look hot.



Posted by: bodeh6

Quote:
Originally Posted by bothfly
To chime in.
I'm looking at the K850 and N95-3.
The N95-3 has 30 FPS in Video mode, the K850 has 15 FPS.
I had a N95-1 a while back and it was/is a great phone. But the battery sucked. Now the N95-3 has a fatter batt.
I also had a K790a and thought it was great.
I'm leaning towards the N95 just beacuse it can do more for the same price, mainly its running S60 os, and can do email PDF and office files, while the K850 cannot. Then there is the GPS as well.
But the K850 sure does look hot.


The K850i actually records in QVGA at 30FPS. But right now I can't even justify the cost of the K850i. It has to drop below $500 before I even think about getting it since you are right the N95-3 can do all the K850i can do and better in some ways.



Posted by: ace587

give it a few months



Posted by: Kricket

the price came down another $10 over nite - im guessing it wont be very long before its in the 515-525 range...



Posted by: Tehy

wow! The camera seems to be great!



Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by bothfly
To chime in.
I'm looking at the K850 and N95-3.
The N95-3 has 30 FPS in Video mode, the K850 has 15 FPS.
I had a N95-1 a while back and it was/is a great phone. But the battery sucked. Now the N95-3 has a fatter batt.
I also had a K790a and thought it was great.
I'm leaning towards the N95 just beacuse it can do more for the same price, mainly its running S60 os, and can do email PDF and office files, while the K850 cannot. Then there is the GPS as well.
But the K850 sure does look hot.


i say go the nokia way



Posted by: Ender17

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
The n95 for sure will do a better job i can prolly say that for sure

wow, thanks for your insight



Posted by: breathe

the phone is so sexy, and i do want it...but i cant justify spending so much when i just got my k790a in march.

anyone want to trade a k850i for a k790a?



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

aside from the camera, they are 2 different beasts the n95-3 and the k850



Posted by: Kricket

^ yeah - i totally agree - with the n95 - you get FAR more functionality (i mean, just in terms of the apps you could load onto it)

but i guess that explains why the n95 costs so much more (at least, the new version does - i think the old version just dropped to around the same price as the k850)



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
^ yeah - i totally agree - with the n95 - you get FAR more functionality (i mean, just in terms of the apps you could load onto it)

but i guess that explains why the n95 costs so much more (at least, the new version does - i think the old version just dropped to around the same price as the k850)
well right now they are comparable in price, i mean the n95-3 you can get for about 649.00 or less.



Posted by: Ender17

Quote:
Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34
well right now they are comparable in price, i mean the n95-3 you can get for about 649.00 or less.

actually you can get them straight from nokia for $624
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1255901

mine is being delivered today



Posted by: shaolinmonk

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnooPPP
Got a question hopefully some lucky k850 owner can answer.

One thing that is important to me is watching videos on my phone. I own a k790a, and the video playback is decent. 320x240 vids, you get some artifacts on the screen, and it only runs smoothly stuff below 25fps.

Is the k850's video playback any better? If it's not, then I'm wondering if Nokia n95 8GB would do it better


it's not gonna get much better... cause both phones only have qvga screens...

it'll be more of less the same qvga res with 30fps...the main benefit is that s60 can support different formats and has a bigger screen



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Playback on the n95 is very smooth no stuttering or anything , i just use the same format the iphone uses or the ipod uses, sometimes i use movies that are 640 x 480 resolution even higher so if i need to use my tv out, its a better quality, and the n95 records video at vga quality 640x 480



Posted by: Outrigger

Quote:
Originally Posted by nokian73
i say go the nokia way


really. coming from someone name nokian telling people to get a nokia, shocking.

I'm sure if some of the SE fanboys or people interested in nokias, they would go to the nokia section. no need to do anymore advertising.



Posted by: dmo

What the hell. LOW EARPIECE VOLUME. Doesn't SE get this yet?

How does it rank in terms of earpiece volume compared to the K800/790 or the W810i?



Posted by: gotgame740

as long as it's as good as the k550/w610, then that's good enough



Posted by: Chronism

Here are some comparison pics between the K850i & K790a. The pics will be listed in the following order, K850i 5mp, K850i 3mp, K790a 3mp.
















Posted by: lets_be_friends

thanks for the comparrison! k850 is better, but not by that much...



Posted by: carse

advantage k850: warmer/truer colors

props to chronism for the photographic quality. makes me want the phone even more.

i would like to see what kind of photos it could take with manual white balance, a mini tripod, self timer, under ample lighting (super low ISO).



Posted by: Chronism

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmo
What the hell. LOW EARPIECE VOLUME. Doesn't SE get this yet?

How does it rank in terms of earpiece volume compared to the K800/790 or the W810i?

It is equal to my K790a. Anything more than a quiet enviroment and you have to have the volume all the way up and the phone pressed tightly against your ear. The only bad thing I can say about the phone so far.



Posted by: Chissu

Awesome pictures, they look great! Thanks! Hopefully I get the guts to buy this puppy soon!! And the money~



Posted by: avb

great comparison pics, thanks, quality looks just the same as the k800i if not a little bit better. any samples of videos taken by the phone?



Posted by: Ninkul

Thanks for the comparison but i think i've still been put off buying it just yet :P lol, i'll wait 'til its a heck of a lot less or SE's next cybershot :P lol



Posted by: Kazuya Kazama

daym...hot ride....



Posted by: DVS_WiNdz

the picture quality is pretty good



Posted by: shaolinmonk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronism
It is equal to my K790a. Anything more than a quiet enviroment and you have to have the volume all the way up and the phone pressed tightly against your ear. The only bad thing I can say about the phone so far.


i thought it was plenty loud.. even carsmovies mr. i can't hear you thought it was sufficient....



Posted by: nokian73

Quote:
Originally Posted by Outrigger
really. coming from someone name nokian telling people to get a nokia, shocking.

I'm sure if some of the SE fanboys or people interested in nokias, they would go to the nokia section. no need to do anymore advertising.


yea but i aint no nokia fan boy either, i have had Se for the past 2 years and only now im very happy with my e90 so not a nokia fan boy at all!!
but nokia over SE for this year would be a better choice



Posted by: pachi

Should of had a n95 phone pics to compare.
HOWS THE LOUDSPEAKER??? Does it crackle like the K790a?



Posted by: ace587

Quote:
Originally Posted by pachi
Should of had a n95 phone pics to compare.
HOWS THE LOUDSPEAKER??? Does it crackle like the K790a?


such a fanboy



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

here are comparison pics between the 2, as always the nokia has more colors yet the sony seems washed out to me, i was gonna say the k850i has truer warmer colors, but looking at the playground and the spidey pic shows me they are washed out in my opinion, but overall both very good camera phones.
http://www.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=6166



Posted by: BlueCalx

Quote:
Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34
here are comparison pics between the 2, as always the nokia has more colors yet the sony seems washed out to me, i was gonna say the k850i has truer warmer colors, but looking at the playground and the spidey pic shows me they are washed out in my opinion, but overall both very good camera phones.
http://www.phonedaily.com/news/?news_id=6166

that 'washed out' look could be from overexposure or a screwed up white balance, couldn't it?



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCalx
that 'washed out' look could be from overexposure or a screwed up white balance, couldn't it?
sure it can be a matter of settings,same with the n95 and the over exagerration of colors. I think alot of us want to go to camera mode leave it on auto and snap away.



Posted by: HowEver

Quote:
Originally Posted by pachi
Should of had a n95 phone pics to compare.
HOWS THE LOUDSPEAKER??? Does it crackle like the K790a?


Is that a common problem?

My K790A's loudspeaker doesn't "crackle" at all.



Posted by: Arne Anka

@THETRUTH#34

It appears the auto setting for K850 tend to overexpose when there is lot of ligh, but with manual setting the photos look excelent. Here is an example (photos taken by tai020381 at esato)

Auto
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3517/dsc00197qv1.jpg

Manual (EV -0.7)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5803/dsc00198zu7.jpg

Take your time to scroll through the K850 photos at esato (check the link below). Especially pay attention to photos taken by plankgatan. He's an excelent photographer (he mainly use various manual settings and get very good results).

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopi...=156144&start=0



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

here are some more comparisons.

http://publish.it168.com/2007/0924/20070924023809.shtml



Posted by: angelm713

Couple of more questions for someone that actually has the K850i in hand:

1. Does the "Light" feature work? Is there anyway to enable the light to use as a flashlight? The manual doesn't indicate so but it is often lacking in what the phone is capable of doing. This is actually an important feature for me as I have a shortcut for it on my W810i.

2. In the Media Player, can you sort by Genre? One review I read says it does, but it doesn't indicated so in the AE manual.

Thank you.



Posted by: Chronism

Quote:
Originally Posted by angelm713
Couple of more questions for someone that actually has the K850i in hand:

1. Does the "Light" feature work? Is there anyway to enable the light to use as a flashlight? The manual doesn't indicate so but it is often lacking in what the phone is capable of doing. This is actually an important feature for me as I have a shortcut for it on my W810i.

2. In the Media Player, can you sort by Genre? One review I read says it does, but it doesn't indicated so in the AE manual.

Thank you.


Yes, the light feature is in. You can choose from:
On for 1 minute
On
Off
SOS

I don't see an option to sort by Genre, just Artist, Tracks, Playlists, Audio books, and Podcasts.



Posted by: angelm713

Thank you very much for the info!
Guess they forgot to include the light function in the AE manual. I'm relieved to see they kept that utility!

I'll keep hoping that one day they will add Genre to the Walkman/Media software. That would make it a perfect player for me.



Posted by: Ender17

can you please tell me how fast it is when scrolling between photos?
like in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc4x...related&search=

is there lag?



Posted by: Chronism

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
can you please tell me how fast it is when scrolling between photos?
like in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc4x...related&search=

is there lag?

I have not experienced any lag whatsoever scrolling between photos or through the track list in music. The only thing in music when holding down the d-pad in one direction, the list will scroll fast and display the track number until you slow down/stop and give it a chance to fill in the track name.



Posted by: Ender17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chronism
I have not experienced any lag whatsoever scrolling between photos or through the track list in music. The only thing in music when holding down the d-pad in one direction, the list will scroll fast and display the track number until you slow down/stop and give it a chance to fill in the track name.

ok, anything like this when viewing photos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sebGfVSU4Vc



Posted by: Chronism

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ender17
ok, anything like this when viewing photos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sebGfVSU4Vc

Not at all, it's pretty snappy.



Posted by: Kricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34


theres definitely something funky going on with that website - check out the exif data

i only spot checked a few photos (the site is INCREDIBLY slow to download the full pictures off of)

some observations from the exif data
- from the very top row of pictures - the exif data shows that the FIRST picture (on the left) is from an n95 - it shows the second as being from a k858c
- in the 5th row - somehow, the exif data shows that the first picture was taken by a k850c (rather then a k858c like the pic in the first row) - this is definitely interesting - that means that either the photo was taken with a different camera (or phone) - OR the person posting manipulated the exif data

whatever the case may be - theres definitely something shady going on with that site...

EDIT - and who knows if the pictures were even taken with production firmware - the exif data shows that the pics from the actual digicam were taken on 9/20/07

but i definitely agree that it appears that the "auto" mode overexposes a bit - im wondering if thats something that will be remedied in an upcoming firmware update...



Posted by: angelm713

I can't tell from any of the pictures or from the manual...

Is there a self-portrait mirror on the camera side of the K850i?

TIA.



Posted by: pdagal

There is no self-portrait mirror.



Posted by: Ender17

one more question about the photo viewing
is it as fast as the K550?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsyIIhSq5sQ



Posted by: junkiejoe

Here's some footage on and old wooden rollercoaster I took today. I had a death grip on the phone as I didn't have the lanyard on it. It's shaky and grainy but it WAS a violent ride. Old wooden rollercoaster are nuts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SrRxMEaFYE



Posted by: a9ballbr8k

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiejoe
Here's some footage on and old wooden rollercoaster I took today. I had a death grip on the phone as I didn't have the lanyard on it. It's shaky and grainy but it WAS a violent ride. Old wooden rollercoaster are nuts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SrRxMEaFYE


Dude that totaly looks like six flags darien lake in ny. is that the super man I see to the right?



Posted by: darkninja

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiejoe
Here's some footage on and old wooden rollercoaster I took today. I had a death grip on the phone as I didn't have the lanyard on it. It's shaky and grainy but it WAS a violent ride. Old wooden rollercoaster are nuts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SrRxMEaFYE


You are a brave man to take that footage with your new phone . But i still think being as blocky as it was, takes better video than my fiance's 3.2mp cannon digital camera .



Posted by: Valgar

Quote:
Originally Posted by a9ballbr8k
Dude that totaly looks like six flags darien lake in ny. is that the super man I see to the right?


Haha I was thinking the samething, I remember that damn wooden rollercoster, it hurts your butt and balls so much.

I grew up in rochester, ny btw, been to darien lake many times.



Posted by: rambalu80

I have had my K850i for less than a week now and I must say that I am quite happy with the buy. Being the 1st release of the firmware, the phone would get better with the forthcoming updates (hopefully soon). Call quality and earpiece volume are definitely better than my W810i from which I stripped off the Cingular branding.
As far as cons:
1. The menu tends to be a little slow at times
2. The camera shutter and flash don't always sync, producing pitch dark pic's like there was no flash
3. The touch keys, I think are way too sensitive
4. Music folder doesn't show up when using the PC suite to transfer files. This can be bypassed by using the 'file transfer' option when connecting with the cable

For the most part, seems like a pretty good phone that would get better with an update or two!



Posted by: appleiphones

i need to know what the max capacity for microsd or sdhc for k850 if anyone has tried, i think i'm going with sd because its cheaper, any thoughts? i want the 4gb microsdhc wondering if it is compatible



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiejoe
Here's some footage on and old wooden rollercoaster I took today. I had a death grip on the phone as I didn't have the lanyard on it. It's shaky and grainy but it WAS a violent ride. Old wooden rollercoaster are nuts!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SrRxMEaFYE
Wow, first of brave man, secondly i hope its because you were on the roller coaster that it looked that blocky, can you do a side by side video using the n95 and the k850i just to see the comparison of the videos.



Posted by: Kricket

^ keep in mind - whenever you post a video on youtube - it always looks "blockier" than the original...

notice the "blockiness" on this n95 video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQAqhcgRO0

ive never used the n95 - but im almost positive the video looks better than that in its pure form...

EDIT - you can see the blockiness ESPECIALLY when the guy moves the phone around quickly (much like when recording on a roller coaster )

and i love how people are comparing se's k850i "dumbphone" to nokias n95 "superphone" - i think its great!



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
^ keep in mind - whenever you post a video on youtube - it always looks "blockier" than the original...

notice the "blockiness" on this n95 video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyQAqhcgRO0

ive never used the n95 - but im almost positive the video looks better than that in its pure form...

EDIT - you can see the blockiness ESPECIALLY when the guy moves the phone around quickly (much like when recording on a roller coaster )

and i love how people are comparing se's k850i "dumbphone" to nokias n95 "superphone" - i think its great!

Good example, wasnt comparing the over all functionalities of the phones , just wanted to see how they looked side by side, sort of like they do with the cameras.



Posted by: a9ballbr8k

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valgar
Haha I was thinking the samething, I remember that damn wooden rollercoster, it hurts your butt and balls so much.

I grew up in rochester, ny btw, been to darien lake many times.


yeah that thing will shake the shizit outta everything you own!!! It's a great ride though. Were in rochester were you from and where did you go to school? You can pm me if you wanna keep it private. I went to spencerport and grew up in gates. I graduated in 96. You?



Posted by: junkiejoe

Yeah, I was at Worlds of Fun in Kansas City for a spike of adrenaline. The vid is blocky due to such a violent nature of shaking the rollercoaster produced. When still, it's not nearly as bad.
Here's another of the k850i:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IojddZw5whU
One using the N95:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M8RRJmxbcHQ
And one with the 6120 Classic:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9pBPXBk8xso



Posted by: a9ballbr8k

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiejoe
Yeah, I was at Worlds of Fun in Kansas City for a spike of adrenaline. The vid is blocky due to such a violent nature of shaking the rollercoaster produced. When still, it's not nearly as bad.
Here's another of the k850i:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IojddZw5whU
One using the N95:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M8RRJmxbcHQ
And one with the 6120 Classic:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9pBPXBk8xso


Honestly the vid from the 6120 looks to be of the better quality than the other two. Whats the res and fps of the 6120 video?



Posted by: Darkwun

where can i contact sony ericsson with a list of bugs i've found so they can hopefully sort it in the software updates??



Posted by: Mojo_LA

Other than the 5mp camera, does this phone offer anything that makes it worth the money?



Posted by: haritia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojo_LA
Other than the 5mp camera, does this phone offer anything that makes it worth the money?


Well, it has US *and* non-US 3G is another new thing but it lost IR (most people won't miss that) I am still not clear whether there is EDGE on it or not. Some specs have it and some omit.



Posted by: Darkwun

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojo_LA
Other than the 5mp camera, does this phone offer anything that makes it worth the money?


there are a few neat little touches here and there but until there is a firmware update which clears some annoying bugs save your pennies

if your lookin for something groundbreaking the N95 should be you purchase



Posted by: bodeh6

Quote:
Originally Posted by haritia
Well, it has US *and* non-US 3G is another new thing but it lost IR (most people won't miss that) I am still not clear whether there is EDGE on it or not. Some specs have it and some omit.


Well of course it has EDGE on it

It has QuadBand GSM/EDGE and TriBand UMTS/HSDPA.



Posted by: haritia

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodeh6
Well of course it has EDGE on it

It has QuadBand GSM/EDGE and TriBand UMTS/HSDPA.


At the SE dev connection it states that the K850 has EDGE (E-GSM is EDGE right?) but on the K850 specs page it's not mentioned at all. I have not received confirmation either way on that.



Posted by: reactionsok

op thanks for the post. this makes me feel confident not to upgrade my k750i now even though i broke the camera and use my mem stick in my new psp slim. hmmm what do you think?



Posted by: SBZRO

Ha. I work across the street from you.



Posted by: Mojo_LA

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodeh6
Well of course it has EDGE on it

It has QuadBand GSM/EDGE and TriBand UMTS/HSDPA.


So does my Samsung A717 and it was FREE.

Still doesn't look like the k850i is $600 worth of phone.



Posted by: Kricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojo_LA
So does my Samsung A717 and it was FREE.

Still doesn't look like the k850i is $600 worth of phone.


if you dont think the k850 is worth it - then i would suggest you dont purchase it - that would just be silly...



Posted by: Kricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwun
if your lookin for something groundbreaking the N95 should be you purchase


does groundbreaking mean: "uses the same form of laggy os available for the last 5 years with the addition of a 'faux' gps function that takes forever to lock onto satellites and requires the purchase of an additional monthly subscription in order to utilize in any sort of useful way"?

because if so, then i agree



Posted by: TheHomelessGuy





Posted by: Mojo_LA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
if you dont think the k850 is worth it - then i would suggest you dont purchase it - that would just be silly...


Hey, this is a DISCUSSION forum... after all the hype surrounding this phone, now that it's out, I'm interested in a DISCUSSION of reasons (aside from a 5mp camera) what makes this phone worth $600.

From the sample pics I've seen, aside from the hi resolution, it doesn't look like the optics (i.e. lenses and image processing chips) are significantly improved from past cameras (better optics would lead to a much better picture over simply increasing the resolution).

3g speeds are nice, but other phones have that. It's funny, the w910i has a nice, big screen that's great for browsing, but the k850 has the speed you want to browse with. Too bad Sony didn't put these things in ONE phone!



Posted by: manchuia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mojo_LA
Hey, this is a DISCUSSION forum... after all the hype surrounding this phone, now that it's out, I'm interested in a DISCUSSION of reasons (aside from a 5mp camera) what makes this phone worth $600.

From the sample pics I've seen, aside from the hi resolution, it doesn't look like the optics (i.e. lenses and image processing chips) are significantly improved from past cameras (better optics would lead to a much better picture over simply increasing the resolution).

3g speeds are nice, but other phones have that. It's funny, the w910i has a nice, big screen that's great for browsing, but the k850 has the speed you want to browse with. Too bad Sony didn't put these things in ONE phone!



It's funny, if you had posted this initially no one would have said anything, but all you said is that your free a717 can do 3G so don't buy the k850. That's not really discussion material.



Posted by: junkiejoe

Quote:
Originally Posted by haritia
At the SE dev connection it states that the K850 has EDGE (E-GSM is EDGE right?) but on the K850 specs page it's not mentioned at all. I have not received confirmation either way on that.

It has EDGE.



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
does groundbreaking mean: "uses the same form of laggy os available for the last 5 years with the addition of a 'faux' gps function that takes forever to lock onto satellites and requires the purchase of an additional monthly subscription in order to utilize in any sort of useful way"?

because if so, then i agree
YOU SURE YOU EVER USED A N95????? My gps locks within 20 seconds, i have no lag, plus i have rt66 which is free and requires no purchase and full voice navigation.I mean really if you are gonna knock something get the facts straight.Oooppps sorry, you are the one that thinks the iphone is ground breaking.



Posted by: Baldilocks

Ok, time to get back on topic



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldilocks
Ok, time to get back on topic
agreed



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

can someone post some camera pics, seems noone is posting any pics taken with the k850 as of yet.



Posted by: manchuia

um .. there are pics posted in this thread... even comparison to the k800



Posted by: Kricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34
YOU SURE YOU EVER USED A N95????? My gps locks within 20 seconds, i have no lag, plus i have rt66 which is free and requires no purchase and full voice navigation.I mean really if you are gonna knock something get the facts straight.Oooppps sorry, you are the one that thinks the iphone is ground breaking.


lol - a non-laggy s60 - thatll be the day

and yeah - the ui of the iphone is definitely groundbreaking - which is why im assuming nokia is going in the same direction with their "new" touchscreen symbian technology - go figure - of course, when that phone drops - everyone will poop their pants - but im guessing that itll still be laggy - curse of the s60, i suppose

now - back to the k850 - no, i dont think its worth the $600 it first sold for - and im not sure its worth the $550 its currently selling for - but within a month or two - itll be worth the price itll sell for (and the price it was supposed to sell for) - around the 450-500 range

again - the n95 first opened at over a thousand dollars - and all it added over every other s60 was its gps "feature" - was it worth that then? heck no (and im not sure its worth the $750-800 its going to sell for on the nokia site - hey, if we dont account for the cheaper ebay prices with the k850 - why do so for the n95?)

its silly to ask "is the k850 worth $600?" when we all know (or should know) thats not the "intended" selling price of the phone...

EDIT - actually - nokia has the OLD n95 listed at 700 on the site - if they can sell that n95 for 700, then i think 550 for the k850 isnt so bad (considering theres not much more the n95 can do - surely not $150 dollars worth)



Posted by: feej92

Quote:
Originally Posted by junkiejoe
It has EDGE.


confirmed... i get the E when im outside a 3G area



Posted by: haritia

Quote:
Originally Posted by feej92
confirmed... i get the E when im outside a 3G area

I'm glad. I was confused there for a while. I didn't make sense to me either that it didn't have it but I needed to be sure. Still waiting for a little bit to see where the prices end up.



Posted by: bostonirishguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34
can someone post some camera pics, seems noone is posting any pics taken with the k850 as of yet.


So you can tell us how the N95's pics are better?



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by bostonirishguy
So you can tell us how the N95's pics are better?
not at all, im interested in the phone actually.



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
lol - a non-laggy s60 - thatll be the day

and yeah - the ui of the iphone is definitely groundbreaking - which is why im assuming nokia is going in the same direction with their "new" touchscreen symbian technology - go figure - of course, when that phone drops - everyone will poop their pants - but im guessing that itll still be laggy - curse of the s60, i suppose

now - back to the k850 - no, i dont think its worth the $600 it first sold for - and im not sure its worth the $550 its currently selling for - but within a month or two - itll be worth the price itll sell for (and the price it was supposed to sell for) - around the 450-500 range

again - the n95 first opened at over a thousand dollars - and all it added over every other s60 was its gps "feature" - was it worth that then? heck no (and im not sure its worth the $750-800 its going to sell for on the nokia site - hey, if we dont account for the cheaper ebay prices with the k850 - why do so for the n95?)

its silly to ask "is the k850 worth $600?" when we all know (or should know) thats not the "intended" selling price of the phone...

EDIT - actually - nokia has the OLD n95 listed at 700 on the site - if they can sell that n95 for 700, then i think 550 for the k850 isnt so bad (considering theres not much more the n95 can do - surely not $150 dollars worth)
I never asked if its worth it, i asked why isnt it discussed more, everyone else said its not worth it.



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by manchuia
um .. there are pics posted in this thread... even comparison to the k800
saw them, just wanted to see more in different lighting conditons, from actual users.



Posted by: Darkwun

Quote:
Originally Posted by THETRUTH#34
saw them, just wanted to see more in different lighting conditons, from actual users.


i've lent mine to an associate for test it for 24hrs but when i get mine back i'll post some pictures because all the ones i have are of family and friends and i dunno how they'd feel bout being pasted on the internet

@ Kricket - i personally can testify to 2 non laggy N95s and the capabilities of that phone are outstanding mate, the only bad thing i have to say about the phone is the battery



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwun
i've lent mine to an associate for test it for 24hrs but when i get mine back i'll post some pictures because all the ones i have are of family and friends and i dunno how they'd feel bout being pasted on the internet

@ Kricket - i personally can testify to 2 non laggy N95s and the capabilities of that phone are outstanding mate, the only bad thing i have to say about the phone is the battery
THANKS DARKWUN



Posted by: Kricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkwun
@ Kricket - i personally can testify to 2 non laggy N95s and the capabilities of that phone are outstanding mate, the only bad thing i have to say about the phone is the battery


after i used my 7610 for a few months - i actually got used to the lagginess as well - it wasnt until i went back to a non-s60 phone that i realized exactly how slow it was

im sorry - but im going to have to side with EVERY SINGLE unbiased published review on the n95 and contend that it is, in fact, a laggy beast...

i mean, if people are happy with it - then thats fantastic - after all, we dont use phones because OTHER people like them - we use them because they do everything we need - for me, the n95 is just a bit laggy - some people may not even notice it - and for those people, the phone is perfect

to each his/her own



Posted by: bostonirishguy

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
after i used my 7610 for a few months - i actually got used to the lagginess as well - it wasnt until i went back to a non-s60 phone that i realized exactly how slow it was

im sorry - but im going to have to side with EVERY SINGLE unbiased published review on the n95 and contend that it is, in fact, a laggy beast...

i mean, if people are happy with it - then thats fantastic - after all, we dont use phones because OTHER people like them - we use them because they do everything we need - for me, the n95 is just a bit laggy - some people may not even notice it - and for those people, the phone is perfect

to each his/her own


Are you talking about the N95-1 or the N95-3? There's no lag on the newer N95-3.



Posted by: Kricket

^ i know - i remember when the n91 first came out and people said: "its SO much faster" - then the reviews came in...

i remember when the n73 came out and people said: "its SO much quicker" - then the reviews came in (i actually remember getting into a debate on hofo very similar to this one - people saying: "nuh-uh - its FAST" - now its pretty much common knowledge that the n73 suffered from more lag than even some of its predecessors did)

and i remember when the n95-1 first came out and people said: "theres NO lag" - then the reviews came in

again - i have no personal experience with the n95-3 - but im willing to bet that when the NEXT s60 comes along - people will say: "it has no lag - not like the n95-3 did"

im gonna try to make a trip down to overseas electronics this weekend to actually test it out myself - im curious as to how the camera performs - and if its as laggy as the n95-1 - lemme guess, thats the only feature that still has lag?



Posted by: shaolinmonk

Kricket

guess what? the new se's k850 and w910 are laggy and slow



Posted by: bodeh6

Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
Kricket

guess what? the new se's k850 and w910 are laggy and slow


FW update will probably fix that.



Posted by: shaolinmonk

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodeh6
FW update will probably fix that.


meh.. these products are already slow out the gate to compete..... and now i need to wait for new firmwares? Manufacturers are starting to rely on "firmware updates" too much.. what happened to shipping a quality product in the box... and honestly does the average customer really update their phone? even if they do.. it's not somethig fun...

the last batch of SE's were released well.. w810, k800, z600 etc..etc.. they worked out of the box... i hope SE gets hit in their pocketbooks for releasing half ***** products...

also these new models didn't get new processors... software can only do so much.. processing power is lacking i think...



Posted by: Kricket

Quote:
Originally Posted by shaolinmonk
Kricket

guess what? the new se's k850 and w910 are laggy and slow


is the n95-3 faster? if i want to send an email - which phone would get it done quicker? how about text messages?

and lets not take shortcuts into account - i mean, both the k850 and n95 can utilize shortcuts for sms, mms and email - but id like to get an idea of just how quick the n95 is



Posted by: shaolinmonk

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
is the n95-3 faster? if i want to send an email - which phone would get it done quicker? how about text messages?

and lets not take shortcuts into account - i mean, both the k850 and n95 can utilize shortcuts for sms, mms and email - but id like to get an idea of just how quick the n95 is


i'm gonna say from my experience email and texting is faster on the n95-3



Posted by: Kricket

wow - i would really have to see that to believe it though - and i know its a cop out - but being burned by every s60 device ive ever owned/played with - id be silly to just believe it...

would anyone take the time to actually post a relevant video? maybe starting from the home screen - opening up the menu - and then opening up the sms/mms/email apps - basically going through the whole process of sending a sms, mms, and email?

im honestly VERY tempted to walk over to the nokia store to pick one up...



Posted by: THETRUTH#34

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kricket
^ i know - i remember when the n91 first came out and people said: "its SO much faster" - then the reviews came in...

i remember when the n73 came out and people said: "its SO much quicker" - then the reviews came in (i actually remember getting into a debate on hofo very similar to this one - people saying: "nuh-uh - its FAST" - now its pretty much common knowledge that the n73 suffered from more lag than even some of its predecessors did)

and i remember when the n95-1 first came out and people said: "theres NO lag" - then the reviews came in

again - i have no personal experience with the n95-3 - but im willing to bet that when the NEXT s60 comes along - people will say: "it has no lag - not like the n95-3 did"

im gonna try to make a trip down to overseas electronics this weekend to actually test it out myself - im curious as to how the camera performs - and if its as laggy as the n95-1 - lemme guess, thats the only feature that still has lag?
the camera still does takes a few seconds to load. You are saying the ui on the n95 is laggy and its not.



Posted by: Kricket

^ theres only one video i can find on youtube that actually has a guy going through the menu a bit - its an "unboxing" video so im assuming no apps were loaded onto it yet - even then, it still took a few seconds to open up apps - and the real player video took a while to load as well

perhaps his was defective



Posted by: zhusain

I have never been much of a SE fan. Thats is until I saw the K850i on their website. I got the phone yesterday. It is amazing. I have not experienced the lag that has been talked about? Maybe it has something to do with how much memory is free on the phone? Or could it be that some phones are buggy? As for the touch pad / keypad I have had no problems. The keypad automatically locks so no keys can be accidentally pressed when the phone is in your pocket. I have found the volume on the phone to be adequate when compared to my slvr l7.

When you are in camera mode you can still receive calls. A pop up on the screen will tell you whose calling.

Overall I am truly impressed with this phone. I don't need all of the features of the N95 as I already have a great GPS (Garmin Nuvi 350) which I would not replace.

For those who are complaining about the price, shop around. I got mine for way under $600 CDN! For those in the GTA beware of Pacific Mall, their prices were from $630 to over $700!!!!!



Posted by: shaolinmonk

Quote:
Originally Posted by zhusain

For those who are complaining about the price, shop around. I got mine for way under $600 CDN! For those in the GTA beware of Pacific Mall, their prices were from $630 to over $700!!!!!


way under? how much $550? where at?



Posted by: giarule

i don't see why there has to be so much s60 debate in a k850i impressions thread. mentioning it once or twice seems relevant, but going into deep details... i dunno... especially when it's already been said that everyone is going to have preferences to what they like and even "lag" itself is subjective.

if you like all the features of s60 and what it brings (like i do) then the lag is dismissable in most cases. people tell me my E61i is "huge". then i put it next to a razr and the thickness is nearly the same (with the razr closed of course), but i have a 2.8" screen and full qwerty. i also loved my w900i and if it had edge, i would probly still have it, despite the size (which rarely ever bothers me). what many people don't realize is that if they want features AND battery life, they will have to sacrifice a little size. people tell me that the 903sh is huge when i use it, but hey, optical zoom on a cameraphone... it's all about the features and personal preferences. i just think it's silly and totally detracts from the main point of the thread (and YES, i KNOW it's a "Discussion" thread, but it also has a topic and there are plenty of threads of "n95 vs. k850" out there).

to stay on-topic, i'm glad that more people are getting this phone and it seems that they like it for the most part. to me, it's the phone features that are important first and if the earpiece is louder than the w810i, then it might be my wife's next phone. so far, it seems that there are more people who think the phone is louder, so that's a good thing. when i first saw the announcement of the phone, i thought it was going to be in our possession for sure. then with some of the bad reviews, i got hesistant, but because of hofo, i'm back on the bandwagon!

price update: phonesource-usa has it for ~$530 USD (both colors - but i haven't verified)



Posted by: Darkwun

Here are a few sample pics











Posted by: brown eyes

Thats one sleek looking phone. I would imagine it would be a very prone to finger prints though.

I'm considering a N95, but a Sony Ericsson K850 would be nice too. GSMArena.com gave the N95 34 points versus the K850's 31 points. The N95 does come packed with more goodies such as GPS and WiFi, but stand-by time is about half of what the K850 could do.

Also, I am an avid picture taker, but both phones seem to be tied in that 5.0 mp department. The N95's sample pictures reflect photos with higher color saturation with Carl Zeiss lens technology, however, Sony's experience with CyberShot makes them a serious contender. Furthermore, I've been very happy with my W800. But I think I'm ready to jump ship into the Nokia camp.

What do you guys think?



Posted by: mcg

I've found the CMOS sensor in SE's K series phones to be terrible, ie. K800i. Out of all the phones I've used, the K800i was terrible in the camera aspect, until its fanbase came out with modified camdrivers - now it's impressive. However the P1i camera I have is OK... turns out less noise than I remember from having the K800i back then.

As for the K850i, what's keeping me from buying this are the bugs, susceptibility to fingerprints, and the touch buttons - don't like 'em at all.

brown_eyes: If you love taking pictures with your phone, I would seriously suggest the Sharp 903SH... it's not too pricey, and if you don't mind the size, it's a great phone. The camera beats the N95 and K850i hands down, despite being only 3.2MP.



Posted by: YVR_Mark

Anyone having any problems with dust getting under the camera lense cover? It seemed like a fairly big problem on other boards.



Posted by: jfox17

Does anyone know how good the best pic mode in the camera is?



Posted by: jonmoot

looks like you live in maryland !



Posted by: MP

can you mute the shutter sound on the k850i?



Posted by: pdagal

You can turn off the shutter sound.



Posted by: Paco

Yup, in the Camera specific settings, there is an option to set the camera sound to 'Off.' In addition, when the phone sound is muted, the shutter sound should be as well.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pdagal
You can turn off the shutter sound.




Posted by: zhusain

Check E-bay Buy it Now. I was lucky not be charge duty on my shipment.



Posted by: darth_malus

Wirelessly posted (samsung i607: SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/UCHA1 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.12))

i was just curious it does have an imap email client and how is the web browser



Posted by: darth_malus

Wirelessly posted (samsung i607: SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/UCHA1 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.12))

i was just curious it does have an imap email client and how is the web browser



Posted by: christomapher

Quote:
Originally Posted by darth_malus
Wirelessly posted (samsung i607: SAMSUNG-SGH-I607/UCHA1 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.12))

i was just curious it does have an imap email client and how is the web browser

Yes it does support IMAP e-mail accounts. The web browser is much better than previous iterations of the default Sony Ericsson browser, however Opera Mini (available free to download) is a much better browser and works very well on the K850i.



Posted by: X-Phaktor

Anybody else having problems with the cameras flash? The sensor doesn't seem to notice the darkness too well and doesn't turn on the flash.

Is there a way to manually turn on the flash and have it on for all pictures taken?



Posted by: layrichman

thanks for reviewing!!

am searching for a phone that can suite my style.
i was bit confused before with sony but i might go for this phone.

Is it okay to move to SE from nokia?



Posted by: MP

its not a s60 phone. SE phones are good tho...



Posted by: layrichman

So how much it effect on the features of this phone?


Will i go with this phone or not?



Posted by: MP

im gonna get one eventually. they are still a little pricey at the moment.



Posted by: way2quik

Quote:
Originally Posted by X-Phaktor
Anybody else having problems with the cameras flash? The sensor doesn't seem to notice the darkness too well and doesn't turn on the flash.

Is there a way to manually turn on the flash and have it on for all pictures taken?

I actually have the opposite. The flash goes on even in dim-to-above dim lightings.





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