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Breaking News - iPhone firmware update v1.1.2 Next Week: Fixes TIFF Exploit/Jailbreak
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Posted by: Makaveli258

Breaking News - iPhone firmware update v1.1.2 coming next week: Fixes the TIFF Exploit; Single-click Jailbreak method would become Obsolete!

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2007/11/iphone-firmware.html

Folks at T3, who had a chance to play around with the yet-to-be launched UK iPhone are reporting that the iPhone firmware update v1.1.2 is indeed official and should hit us as early as Nov 9th when the iPhone gets launched in UK.

They are also reporting that after conducting some experiments it appears that the TIFF exploit (security flaw) which has been used to jailbreak and hack the iPhone OS v1.1.1 has been closed, which means that the Single-click method to jailbreak the iPhone would become obsolete.

The Single-Click method to JailBreak the iPhone OS v1.1.1 initially uses the TIFF exploit to jailbreak the iPhone and later fixes the security flaw.

As mentioned earlier, folks at T3 are reporting that after conducting some experiments it appears that the TIFF exploit (security flaw) which has been used to jailbreak and hack the iPhone OS v1.1.1 has been closed, which means that the Single-click method to jailbreak the iPhone would become obsolete. However, the only ray of hope to the iPhone hacking community would then be iPhone Dev Team's jailbreaking method which does not rely on the TIFF exploit.

We all know that the last firmware update v1.1.1 had given a body blow to the efforts of the iPhone hacking community, as it had made the unauthorized third-party iPhone applications unusable and partially bricked unlocked iPhones (though in my opinion was not intentional but more accidental due to the changes incorporated).

T3 is also reporting that "there are plenty of cool new changes that will make Apple's cell a truly global affair" though the only bit they have revealed is that the latest firmware will apparently now support dozens of languages along with full support for French and German, with special keyboard lay-outs.

The firmware highlights another reason why the software keyboard of the iPhone is revolutionary; as not only does it enable you to provide only those keys that are required for an application, it also enables Apple to roll out features like full support for French and German with special keyboard lay-outs with just a firmware update, now think how RIM or Palm would have managed this on BlackBerry or Treo with their physical QWERTY keyboard.

Posted by: Toaster

I'm not surprised by a new firmware that will close the current exploits, I'm sure this will be the case in every update from here on.

And like all the efforts of the countless companies before them, new ways around will be found and used. Thanks for the heads up though.

Posted by: Phreakish

Well honestly I'm glad they are closing the TIFF exploit as it's a simple matter of time until someone generates a TIFF with malicious intents.

However, smart cookies will find another way to jailbreak so all is good.

To me it seems Apple is more after bug and exploit fixes then preventing us from modding and unlocking.
They could have gone the BREW route which would be a very sad day for us all.

Posted by: sanos

Once again it will take some time to hack but that wont stop anyone... its just a bit of a pain in the *** that they come out with the updates soo fast! Damn multinational corporations lol.

Posted by: campas21

i'm no hacker, but from a logics standpoint, isn't it possible to create a script that get's you to the point that you can access safari (basically the jailbreakme.com method), get into the phones' system and then disables the tiff security for the period of time it takes to jailbreak/update the phone?

Posted by: NeophyteDMD

TIFF exploit has been fixed since 1.1.1 installer app closes that hole. besides international language support, does this new firmware offer anything extra for iPhone in terms of software and functionality for mass sms, or mms support, or copy paste support, or something?

Posted by: Hamzter

Looks like that's gonna delay my iPhone purchase, was dreading them releasing an update like this. How long do you think it'll be before 1.1.2 jailbreaking and activating will happen?

Posted by: Cicero77

Now this has turned out to be quite the paradox for me. Do I virginize, update and unlock 1.1.1 or wait for the Dev team to do their magic once again?

Posted by: NeophyteDMD

no need, just get your in store 1.1.1 iphone before they run out, jailbreak, unlock etc, then download and install the tiff exploit fix and you are technically @ 1.1.2 minus all the foreign language keyboards and stuff. since apparently no real changes were made to the update. It would be pretty cool if you could buy 1.1.2 iphone and then downgrade to 1.1.1, unlock, jailbreak, etc.

Posted by: Drakkhen

I'm sure you can still downgrade to 1.1.1 or earlier using the <SHIFT/Option> + RESTORE method. That will always be there.

From what I've read here, there isn't any significant improvements to functionality this time around, so I don't see a reason to upgrade other than the fact that apple will bug you to upgrade everytime you plug in the phone. Some people also can't stand not having the latest firmware for their electronic devices...

Posted by: kpo'm

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Originally Posted by Makaveli258

The firmware highlights another reason why the software keyboard of the iPhone is revolutionary; as not only does it enable you to provide only those keys that are required for an application, it also enables Apple to roll out features like full support for French and German with special keyboard lay-outs with just a firmware update, now think how RIM or Palm would have managed this on BlackBerry or Treo with their physical QWERTY keyboard.

I think this is a bit of a stretch. Lots of touchscreen phones (e.g. the SE P800 and P900) have had software keyboards that can be adapted based on the application. Also, the BlackBerry has the Sym key that can be used to access foreign characters.

I liked the solution that SE came up with on the P800/P900 series, which was a software keyboard with a flip-up physical keyboard optional. Let's see what Nokia comes up with in its efforts to make a touchscreen keyboard with physical feedback (and perhaps even Apple with the next iPhone), but I haven't found it easy to get used to a software-only keyboard. I'm much more efficient with the tactile feedback of a physical keyboard.

Getting back to the original topic, though, I think Apple will be fixing exploits with each new version. When all is said and done, it will probably be the most secure mobile platform based on their efforts to fight very tenacious and high profile "hackers," both those with good intentions and not-so-good intentions.

Posted by: flyingdutchman

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Originally Posted by Hamzter

Looks like that's gonna delay my iPhone purchase, was dreading them releasing an update like this. How long do you think it'll be before 1.1.2 jailbreaking and activating will happen?

Well when 1.1.1 Jailbreak was released, Erica Sadun made it sound like it would take a while once the TIFF exploit was patched. No one knows. It could be a day, month, never (unlikely). It is a matter of how quickly they can find a security hole. Of course, as soon as that happens, Apple seems to be able to patch those relatively quickly.

Posted by: goldsaint

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Originally Posted by flyingdutchman

if they have ability to patch quickly, they sure have the same ability to propose an unlock service within a new firmware update.

i wonder why, besides their 5 years agreement with att and orange, apple is endlessly fighting to relock the iphone!

y dont they just leave it like this and get over it!

lets compare things quickly :

1.0.2 = the best ver for me as everything works, problems free
1.1.1 = tv out, itunes music store and double tap on home button.
1.1.2 = security issues + keyboards enhancements.

big deal.

if they came up with a2dp, mms, flash etc. i would subscribe to att.
lol.

Posted by: zx6racer

The tiff fix in on installer. Whats is it ?

Posted by: Drakkhen

it patches the TIFF exploit.

Posted by: ranova

The only reason to actually jailbreak the new firmware will be to keep up to date with the hacking. Other than that, from the rumors, the firmware only adds international keyboard support and a fix to the jailbreaking methods, i.e. not worth it at all.

People should not focus on hacking this firmware, but rather find an easy way to downgrade to 1.1.1 and then use the previous hacks. Finding a new way to hack the new, useless, firmware will only make it harder as useful firmwares come out on the iPhone (3rd party support in february for example)

Posted by: Phreakish

In theory, none of this should be a problem when february SDK hits the "shelves", at least in terms of 3rd party apps.

Unlocking is another story.

Posted by: ranova

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Originally Posted by Phreakish

In theory, none of this should be a problem when february SDK hits the "shelves", at least in terms of 3rd party apps.

Unlocking is another story.

yes in "theory," apple will still limit what you can and cannot do on the SDK. It will not offer as much freedom as we have now developing from scratch. also, I guarantee that apple will charge for some programs.

Even when the iphone "opens" up, there is still a place for installer and all the programs out now.

Posted by: Lestat_d

In my humble opinion, most 3rd party apps are crap in terms of content or simply unstable; out of the lot there might be one or two compelling apps you would consistently use -- and the hyped need for 3rd party apps is exaggerated IMHO.

As long as a balance between security, stability and really compelling app's is struck (and I am carrier unlocked in the meantime...) -- I am quite willing to wait and see how Apple controls the 3rd party app introduction.

Posted by: goldsaint

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat_d

In my humble opinion, most 3rd party apps are crap in terms of content or simply unstable; out of the lot there might be one or two compelling apps you would consistently use -- and the hyped need for 3rd party apps is exaggerated IMHO.

As long as a balance between security, stability and really compelling app's is struck (and I am carrier unlocked in the meantime...) -- I am quite willing to wait and see how Apple controls the 3rd party app introduction.

security, stability comes with 1.0.2.
u can use every apps without any problems.

not like 1.1.1 where the word ''problem'' is unfortunately a common reality.

Posted by: GeeK.dLL

I belive the 1.1.2 update will be released Nov. 9th.

Posted by: Lestat_d

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldsaint

security, stability comes with 1.0.2.
u can use every apps without any problems.

not like 1.1.1 where the word ''problem'' is unfortunately a common reality.

But aren't most 1.1.1 related stability problems from 3rd party apps, that perhaps havent been (properly) updated to 1.1.1 compliance yet?

I mean, if you talk about base 1.1.1 functionality -- and the person doing a reset after upgrade -- stability is excellent; its those who are using lots of 3rd party apps on 1.1.1 that have stability issues -- so its important to be clear.

You can unlock and run 1.1.1 quite stably -- the issue is when you load 1.1.1 up with 3rd party apps...the issue isn't 1.1.1 stability -- the issue is 3rd party (cr)aps on 1.1.1...

Posted by: nouse4aname699

I wonder if this update will cause us jailbroken users to restore the iphone again or just install and keep the phone jailbroken

Posted by: sal74

I'm also jumping on the iPhone bandwagon this week but realize that there is an firmware update (1.1.2) that everyone says will slow down the unlocking procedures! I was planning on picking an iPhone up this Saturday but I might have to change that to this Thursday as everyone is talking about this update. If I pick one up this week and it has 1.1.2 installed, can't the "unlocker" downgrade to 1.0.2 and unlock the phone? Will they have 1.1.2 firmware phones by this Saturday...I'm just wondering should I rush it to this Thursaday or take my time and get it on the weekend? Can someone please help me.

Thanks

Posted by: Drakkhen

Yeah, you SHOULD be able to downgrade the FW and the baseband. I don't see any problem with that.

Posted by: MacGeek15

Quote:

Originally Posted by sal74

I'm also jumping on the iPhone bandwagon this week but realize that there is an firmware update (1.1.2) that everyone says will slow down the unlocking procedures! I was planning on picking an iPhone up this Saturday but I might have to change that to this Thursday as everyone is talking about this update. If I pick one up this week and it has 1.1.2 installed, can't the "unlocker" downgrade to 1.0.2 and unlock the phone? Will they have 1.1.2 firmware phones by this Saturday...I'm just wondering should I rush it to this Thursaday or take my time and get it on the weekend? Can someone please help me.

Thanks

how about from 1.1.2 to just 1.1.1?

Posted by: Drakkhen

Should be the same thing - once 1.1.2 comes out, we should be able to get our hands on the 1.1.1 FW file. It should be the same thing - I haven't heard of any BB upgrade in 1.1.2 though, so the unlock process shouldn't be different at all..

Posted by: sal74

Do you guys think if I head over to pick up my iPhone THIS weekend, the phones sitting in the stores stock will have Firmware 1.1.1 or 1.1.2

I just don't want to buy the iPhone, find out it has 1.1.2 and then get stuck

Any suggestions...

Posted by: wacktool

Just because apple releases 1.1.2, doesnt mean it magically jumps into the stores, and sneaks into the unopened boxes and updates the phones on the shelf. Sheesh, common sense peeps.

Posted by: Phreakish

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Originally Posted by wacktool

Just because apple releases 1.1.2, doesnt mean it magically jumps into the stores, and sneaks into the unopened boxes and updates the phones on the shelf. Sheesh, common sense peeps.

Is that EXACTLY what happened when 1.1.1 came out?!
Most stock was converted to 1.1.1 before leaving the stores if my memory serves me well.