Data Plan vs. Wifi

Originally Posted by kareem9nba

i'd love to find a workaround for it, but i guess it's not out there...does wifi waste the battery more than 3g?

Originally Posted by kareem9nba

i just got the data plan (i got it for free until the 20th) and i really like it...i've relied on wifi throught all my ppc's and it's served well, but it sux being in an area not finding an unsecured connection...anyways, does anybody know how i can keepw wifi alive when i turn my display off? that's wat i love about the data plan, it keeps the internet on EVEN when the display is OFF...i couldn't get this to work on my 8125 and now not on my 8525..can anybody please help me fix this!!? thnx

Originally Posted by garrym13

So you are wanting to steal someone bandwidth and not pay for your own.

Originally Posted by kareem9nba

wth are you talking about? stealing? att offerered the plan smart one

Originally Posted by kareem9nba

o ur talking about that...i have my own dsl at home, but when i'm away, if i find a nonsecured connection than i go on it...duh, it's not like i'm decrypting the connection to find the key and hack int o it...:duhsmiley: (even tho there isn't one)

Originally Posted by kareem9nba

nope, i've called networks on this and belive me, they'd know more..they said it's not, just isn't that nice...plus it's there fault for leaving it open

Originally Posted by KBC88

Eh, who REALLY cares about getting your wifi jacked. If anyone who knows what bandwidth is and cared about it, im sure they woudlve tooken their time to set a damn password and secure their network. Seriously, I dont think i've heard of anyone being arrested (actually, i have never) because he/she took some random person's bandwidth from a best buy linksys router. Now unless you're a router bandwidth stealing prohibitionist officer or something to that random sort, garry, no one actually cares who's on his/her network. It's a pda phone, it's not like he lugs his Dell XPS around to hardcore game on the network and download a 6gb HD transformers movie. If anything, there will be 0 noticeable difference on that person's bandwidth. In fact, my friend atm has 2 people using his router (most likely his neighbors), he thinks its a hassle to call 911 saying "please help, my neighbor is stealing my internet!! and I can't download my pr0n movies correctly". He's just gonna set a password in a matter of 2 clicks and a few finger motions. Besides, kareem just said whenever he passes by he just uses it a little bit. Now that my rant is over, lets get back into the subject.

Originally Posted by KBC88

Eh, who REALLY cares about getting your wifi jacked. If anyone who knows what bandwidth is and cared about it, im sure they woudlve tooken their time to set a damn password and secure their network. Seriously, I dont think i've heard of anyone being arrested (actually, i have never) because he/she took some random person's bandwidth from a best buy linksys router. Now unless you're a router bandwidth stealing prohibitionist officer or something to that random sort, garry, no one actually cares who's on his/her network. It's a pda phone, it's not like he lugs his Dell XPS around to hardcore game on the network and download a 6gb HD transformers movie. If anything, there will be 0 noticeable difference on that person's bandwidth. In fact, my friend atm has 2 people using his router (most likely his neighbors), he thinks its a hassle to call 911 saying "please help, my neighbor is stealing my internet!! and I can't download my pr0n movies correctly". He's just gonna set a password in a matter of 2 clicks and a few finger motions. Besides, kareem just said whenever he passes by he just uses it a little bit. Now that my rant is over, lets get back into the subject.

Kareem, I too had a minor dilemma whether or not i should've gotten a data plan with ATT or just relied on wifi (where i'm at, there is wifi EVERYWHERE since im a campus student). I'm able to go anywhere knowing that I have access to internet. For the past week, I have studied for two exams thanks to my tilt. Having the data plan is EXTREMELY convenient and it prevents other from accusing you of being a stealer due to california state law . For just 19.99 a month, it's definitiely worth it.

Regards,
-K-

Originally Posted by ibcop

Go to google and search "arrested wireless internet" and look at the hits. It's a bummer and I am not condoning the issue, but just thought I'd let you know it does happen. Here is a quick read:

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/04/S..._a_new_br.shtml

Originally Posted by KBC88

Yeah the thing is, I wouldn't be saying those things IF kareem did that. I'm just saying that ya'll are here policing the crap outta him when he is in no way attempting to hack a guy through his pda. Obviously, if someone did that to me i'd call the police. (who the heck parks next to your house and does that, i mean cmon honestly, you're basically being asked to be arrested.) Now, UNLESS kareem admits that he stays outside someone house with his pda trying to hack him/her, then i'll take my words back. But, as for now, my words still stand. I know it's illegal, and is it me being stubborn? nah. I'm just letting YOU know, garry, that all he asked for for this thread is whether or not its worth it to get the data plan, and I say yes, go ahead and get the 19.99 one. But honestly, let him be arrested if he attempted to do such a felony; it's his own personal business. Besides, I wouldn't mind him being arrested as well if he did such a thing.

Regards,
-K-

Originally Posted by garrym13

What you fail to realize is that I am not trying to police him just inform him. Yes, he came in asking for something else but, I am giving him the heads up on something that is illegal.

Originally Posted by awj223

Re: the sptimes article. The man didn't go about this the right way when he called police. What he should have done is switched on a packet sniffer and had fun with it. That's why I don't use other people's networks for anything except either public websites or encrypted transfers. If it's my network, I have the right to sniff any unencrypted traffic that goes across it. Then send the person an anonymous email with his captured passwords and scare the crap out of him (do NOT under any circumstances use that information to break into his accounts though; that would be illegal). Maybe he'll learn to be more careful about using others' access points.