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Posted by: silentone19

jus got the 8100 the scree nis brigter than the 5300 but dims after a few seconds to the 5300s brightness. overall nice phone will tell more as i play with it.



Posted by: silentone19

the phone is so much smaller than i anticipated. but cool all the same. the camera seems to be not blurry but the colors seem to stream together.about to get some ringers and pictures as sson as the vision is activated to really show the diff in colors.



Posted by: silentone19

the 8100 screen is substantially brighter than the 5300. its like on the same level as comparing the 5150 screen to the 5300. it is brighter. making me feel very upset that i spent good money on the 5300. picture is pretty good actually when u save it picture it doesnt save it instantly like the 5300 but lets u reviewit so u can decide if u want to keep the picture very good feature. the quality of the picture is very good as well took a picture of the same object and the 8100 was very nice. looked like more color than the 5300 but maybe because 1) i still have the plastic over the lense of my 5300 and 2) brighter screen on 8100. speaking of is it safe to take plastic off the lense? im scared 2 because i keep thinkig that dirt will get on the lense.



Posted by: 8390 Gal

Quote:
Originally posted by silentone19
the 8100 screen is substantially brighter than the 5300. its like on the same level as comparing the 5150 screen to the 5300. it is brighter. making me feel very upset that i spent good money on the 5300. picture is pretty good actually when u save it picture it doesnt save it instantly like the 5300 but lets u reviewit so u can decide if u want to keep the picture very good feature. the quality of the picture is very good as well took a picture of the same object and the 8100 was very nice. looked like more color than the 5300 but maybe because 1) i still have the plastic over the lense of my 5300 and 2) brighter screen on 8100. speaking of is it safe to take plastic off the lense? im scared 2 because i keep thinkig that dirt will get on the lense.


Finally an "Honest" 5300 owner. I'm getting tired of certain 5300 owners bashing the 8100 because they paid so much for their phone.

The 8100 is not meant to be an upgrade to the 5300, but it is the better value because of the price.



Posted by: silentone19

as far as vision it seems comparable to the 5300 but i noticed i loaded the pac man demo game alot faster on the 8100 than on the 5300. alot faster like 5 -7 secs faster. the call clarity seems a bit muffled jus a bit. but its plenty loud so 4 all the people who complain about the one hole for an earpiece should be happy. the phone vibrates a bit from it being so small when u are talking on the phone. again jus a little. i upload some pictures from my 8100 to the 5300 and it has a progress bar that is measured in percentages. i kinda dislike the 5300s "tranferring pictures please wait" because u are unaware if its halfway done or what kinda lets u know whats going on. I love my 5300 though jus telling everyone my experiences with it so people can actually have a comparison to base there choices off of. we all have heard and read about how good the 5300 is so lets shine on the 8100 for a thread or 2



Posted by: crmnh

I'm wondering how you guys are getting 8100's....I have just one demo in my store, and customers are having fits b/c we have none for sale. Anyways, with the one live version I do have, we've removed the plastic cover from the lense and it seems that it won't be a problem at all. As with most Sanyo's out there, the design in general is specifically meant to withstand everyday wear and tear, (well, MOST people's wear & tear).
As for the 5300, there have been and will be many complaints on the price difference and features between the two. It's the same thing that happened when customers paid full price on the samsung a460...then out came the a500. Or the I300, then the I330. The technology is always improving, and with the competition as hot as it is now, don't be surprised to see more and more for less and less! It's one of those things I have heard complaints about on almost a daily basis whe Sprint unveils a newer model in a specific family of phones, particulary when the original handset hasn't been on the market too long itself.
In my opinion, the 8100 is a great phone, and the price blows the other guys out of the water. The sound quality is excellent, and I personally prefer its display over the A500. Getting all of the features for the price, I don't think you can really go wrong. Again, this is just my personal opinion..and I have had a sanyo handset for about 2 1/2 years.



Posted by: jimmyjames

Could you please test the vibrating ringers and compare them between the 8100 and the 5300? I NEED a good vibrating ringer and a loud earpiece. If those are better than the 5300, I'm switching for sure.



Posted by: martianviking

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Originally posted by 8390 Gal
Finally an "Honest" 5300 owner. I'm getting tired of certain 5300 owners bashing the 8100 because they paid so much for their phone.

The 8100 is not meant to be an upgrade to the 5300, but it is the better value because of the price.
I kind of feel the same way; it seems that people who have the 5300 are afraid to say nice things about the 8100. The fact is, they're slightly different phones (different screen sizes, different quality cameras) and the 8100 is cheaper and smaller.

If you really want a big screen and a VGA camera (and you can afford it), get the 5300. You just need to remember that most people don't fall into that category, will be quite happy with the 8100 (it's an incredible value, and it would be even if it didn't have a camera).

Even though I wish I had an 8100 (for the size and cost), I don't feel threatened by it. It's a different machine, and it's newer (that's just the way these things go).



Posted by: silentone19

the vibration feature of the phone is nice and tight(lack of a better word). i jus tried both phones and compared the 5300 and the 8100 are about the same the 8100 seems a bit stronger. teeny enny weeny teetsy bit. or maybe its just me but they seem about the same. earpiece is nice not low at all very loud(ouch). I have never had a problem hearing people with sanyo even though people claim that sanyo is notorious for bad earpieces but for 8100 is very loud and gets louder at that. they both are excellent phones.



Posted by: crmnh

I agree on both, the earpiece is loud, (in a good way), and the vibrate seems just a little bit stronger on the 8100.



Posted by: silentone19

this was fun to test. first i took a picture and i didnt know that the 8100 has frames that can be added on to pictures.another perk for the 8100 i guess if ur intothat sort o thing.colorful frames. anyway typed the 5300 number in and then recorded my own voice. took about all of 10 secs to upload it. Waited like 1 min got it on the 5300 and saw the picture. scrolled down adn downloaded the sound bite, was very loud when i played it. jus kept playing it over and over, very cool to hear a voice come out the of the back of the speaker almost like a speakerphone. word to the wise when u record ur voice dont talk loud at all the mouthpiece is very sensative.



Posted by: silentone19

well i know best buy in richmond va gets new shipmet in today. went there and it wast in so i went across the street to circuit city and it was in the case. A salesman told me he couldnt sell it becasue its not the 27th. talked to him about not caring about the rebate. he told me "let me ask my manger" the manager was like "no". then he saw the 5300 on my hip asked to c it. and started playing with it. games for a few minutes and looked at the lovely ladies i had for wallpapers and asked to hear some of my ringers(all qcp). then he smiled at me and said get the man the phone. rung the phone up and i was outta there.



Posted by: crmnh

Gotta love 3rd party having inventory first...but ya the 27th is supposed to be the release date, assuming you have the inventory that is.



Posted by: silentone19

I dont feel threatened by the phone at all even though i have a 5300. y becasue i know its a downgrade but dont take that harshly i have never heard of a downgrade with so many perks. it s a very nice phone. i love my 5300 more, though not because of price but because of things(all are honest things ): 1) the picture screen on the 8100 seems to blur when using it as a camera unlike the 5300 which is very fluid. with 8100 u have to sit there for like 3 secs for the camera to catch up with what u r viewing. 2) i like the size of the 5300 its nice and big perfect for me a little bigger than average guy(6'4 200lbs weight lifter). 3) bigger screen on 5300 need i say more. and there are others but these are the most important to me. The 8100 is nice though VERY VERY VERY nice both are awesome. if u are worried about wasting moneybecause u bought the 5300. DONT. jus give credit when credit is due. and leave it at that. saying soemthing nice about a phone doesnt make urs look like crap its jus an observation is all.nothing more nothing less



Posted by: crmnh

example of a pic from the 8100, a hard working Sprint Rep.

This was taken with the "Sepia" effect, hence the different hue.



Posted by: Aurora

Quote:
Originally posted by crmnh
example of a pic from the 8100, a hard working Sprint Rep.

This was taken with the "Sepia" effect, hence the different hue.


Not a bad picture! (the quality seems pretty good)



Posted by: Kieran McShane

I'm picking up my 8100 later this afternoon! Radio Shack has a $100.00 instant rebate making this phone cost $99.99!

By the way, The picture taken and posted above is terrific. So much for the "camera quality is lacking compared to the 5300" comments. CMOS versus CCD be damned... it looks like the phone will take a decent picture (or should I say "snapshot" since neither the 5300 nor 8100 can take a photograph that is really of sufficient quality to print).

I don't think the lack of a flash will be an issue for me as most subjects I might photograph probably wouldn't appreciate having a camera 2-3 feet from their faces and my 5300 equipped friends usually state this is the distance one needs to be for the flash to illuminate the subject. The lack of a zoom feature means little well, as the 5300 can use the zoom feature only in the lower resolution mode, unless I am mistaken.



Posted by: jimmyjames

What's with you people? The camera on the 8100 is worse than the 5300. Can someone please explain to me how the 352x288 camera of the 8100 is just as good or better than the 640x480 camera on the 5300? I'm really interested to hear this Kieran.

I've got both in my possession and will do a detailed review this evening.



Posted by: xploit

this is a picture of my gurl's dog taken with my 5300



Posted by: Kieran McShane

Quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames
What's with you people? The camera on the 8100 is worse than the 5300. Can someone please explain to me how the 352x288 camera of the 8100 is just as good or better than the 640x480 camera on the 5300? I'm really interested to hear this Kieran.


http://www.idg.net/ic_1231651_10401_1-5468.html

"The Sanyo 8100 is a slightly smaller version of its flip-style 5300 Sprint phone. But unlike the 5300, the 8100 allows you to add a 10-second voice annotation to a photo. The camera is capable of taking 640-by-480-resolution photos, and you can add frames to the images."



Posted by: jimmyjames

Wrong again Kieran. You're a victim of misinformation. Try checking the Sanyo site, or better yet, the box of the 8100. 352x288. 352x288. 352x288.

It's also a CMOS camera (worse than the 5300), doesn't have a flash, doesn't have resolution control, no zoom, etc.



Posted by: Kieran McShane

Quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames
Wrong again Kieran. You're a victim of misinformation. Try checking the Sanyo site, or better yet, the box of the 8100. 352x288. 352x288. 352x288.

It's also a CMOS camera (worse than the 5300), doesn't have a flash, doesn't have resolution control, no zoom, etc.


Well jimmy, it looks like you are both correct *and* smug.

All the data I have seen stated that the 8100 was capable of 640x480.

I'm disappointed as this phone should have the higher resolution, although I really didn't care about the flash or zoom.

Looks like it might have to be the 5300 or LG 6000 for me.



Posted by: jimmyjames

Don't feel too bad. Even cruznis300 (a Sprint employee) was trying to convince people that the camera had the same resolution. Sprint and Sanyo have never said anything other than 352x288, though other sources that just guess at specs have made up their own numbers.

If the camera is very important to you, the 5300 is clearly superior. Otherwise, I prefer the 8100 for a few reasons. I have posted a detailed review of both phones.



Posted by: gsmornot

The 5300 takes better pictures. I can see that in the examples posted here and other places. The question I have is, so what? The camera is for fun snapshots when you wish you had a camera. If you know in advance that you are going somewhere that you want to take pictures, take a regular camera. To be honest, I like the 5300 better for the larger screen and better camera. If your going to buy something like this for the camera why not go for the better model? I myself will get the 8100 because it costs less. I already have a 3.3 megapixel still and a DV cam so I just want a fun compact phone. Hope my comments are understood as just part of a good conversation and not an argument maker. Be Good.



Posted by: Kieran McShane

Quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames
Don't feel too bad. Even cruznis300 (a Sprint employee) was trying to convince people that the camera had the same resolution. Sprint and Sanyo have never said anything other than 352x288, though other sources that just guess at specs have made up their own numbers.

If the camera is very important to you, the 5300 is clearly superior. Otherwise, I prefer the 8100 for a few reasons. I have posted a detailed review of both phones.


The camera resolution is not a "deal breaker" I suppose, but if one is going to have a camera equipped phone, the higher resoultion would of course be appreciated (however neither resolution is really suitable for printing).

I'll check it out your review for further information.



Posted by: Kieran McShane

Quote:
Originally posted by gsmornot
The 5300 takes better pictures. I can see that in the examples posted here and other places. The question I have is, so what? The camera is for fun snapshots when you wish you had a camera. If you know in advance that you are going somewhere that you want to take pictures, take a regular camera. To be honest, I like the 5300 better for the larger screen and better camera. If your going to buy something like this for the camera why not go for the better model? I myself will get the 8100 because it costs less. I already have a 3.3 megapixel still and a DV cam so I just want a fun compact phone. Hope my comments are understood as just part of a good conversation and not an argument maker. Be Good.


You make several good points in your post.

I also have a 3.3 MP digicam and a DV recorder but I don't carry them with me much. Seems like whenever I *don't* have the camera is when I see something I'd like to snap a picture of.

Neither the 5300 nor the 8100 can capture images worth printing, but there is much more information in a 640x480 image that can be tweaked (to an extent) by Photo Shop to make the higher resoultion more attractive, at least to me.

But the bottom line is, of course, call clarity and signal reception... and Sanyo is pretty much at the top of the heap there (althogh the LG 6000 seems to have some remarkable features - 3.54x1.90x0.95, LCD 120x160 pixels, TFT screen with 262,000 colors, Camera Type: Built-In - Still CMOS / VGA (640 x 480 pixels) / white balance and color tone controls / mirror and self-timer for self-portraits.

Ya can drive yerself nuts with all these specs... no phone will do everything it's owner wants it to. I'll probably get the 8100 and be quite happy with it )



Posted by: jimmyjames

Are you sure that the 6000 will be released by Sprint? I know that Verizon will get it, but the two don't normally like to share phones.



Posted by: Kieran McShane

Quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames
Are you sure that the 6000 will be released by Sprint? I know that Verizon will get it, but the two don't normally like to share phones.


The LG 6000 is for use on the Verizon network.

I have several friends that have Verizon in both Arizona and California and seem to like it well enough. I'll go with Sprint or Verizon... but have had unhappy dealings with T-Mobile's network.... and am not crazy about AT&T either.



Posted by: sticks

Quote:
Originally posted by Kieran McShane
I'm picking up my 8100 later this afternoon! Radio Shack has a $100.00 instant rebate making this phone cost $99.99!


The rebate is for new customers, or a new contract. I'm an existing customer and can get this rebate they should really have something for existing customer, don't ya think?



Posted by: jaggrey

I have a question.

Could you show me a 5300 user that *hates* on the 8100? From what I've seen, it's the 8100 users that pick fights with the 5300 users ("My phone is the same as yours but costs $200 less!!!") and then when the 5300 users just point out the difference between their phone and the 8100 then it's called *hatin*? All the 5300 users I've talked to have praised both their phone and the 8100, but then people like vissionare (sorry to put u on the spot) come in and say "See I told you...no one will ever buy that POS 5300 now because of the 8100" or something to that affect. I'd like to see a thread either here or on SprintUsers that shows a 5300 user *hatin* on a 8100 user without being provoked 1st!

//end rant



Posted by: sprintpcsuser

Question for 8100 users. How many digits can you enter on the phone at one time? I know with an LG it's 42 or 48. What about the rest of the phones?



Posted by: silentone19

Hey with the 8100 u can use ringers or .qcp files for the calendar instead of that annyoing beeping!



Posted by: jimmyjames

Yes, you can use any ringers (factory or downloaded) for any event in the calendar. You assign them when you set the event, so all events could have different ringers.



Posted by: jaggrey

Quote:
Originally posted by jimmyjames
Yes, you can use any ringers (factory or downloaded) for any event in the calendar. You assign them when you set the event, so all events could have different ringers.
Is this true for the 5300 as well?



Posted by: silentone19

nope and i wish u could set ringers fro the calendar other than that beeping. :*(



Posted by: Vee8162

Just to clarify a few facts here:

The screen on the 8100 is brighter, but when not in use, the screen does not shut off completely, even with the "always off" option selected. Instead, it dims to a low-lit status- NOT the same brightness as the 5300. This is due to what Immerstark was saying about the display being non-transflective (sp), just like that samsung a500. I wonder how much battery life this sucks out.

As for the camera resolution- It really is true that you never have a camera when you wanna take a pic. But if you do, the higher the resolution, the better. IMO, the 5300's 640X480 is at the baseline of acceptable picture-size- and as 4X6 photos they look pretty good, but not any lower than that.



Posted by: Mingus

I'm pretty satisfied with the images that the 8100 takes for now. Of course, it would be great to have the more detailed pictures of the 5300, but I'm not gonna pay an extra $200 just for that feature. I'll probably wait till the end of the year when the a620 is "supposed" to come out and see if that camera has better resolution. I'm sure by 2004 someone will have come out with a camera phone approaching the 1MP mark.



Posted by: dannydos

man i haven't been been posting or reading posts for like 3 days now and just today i 've seen a million 8100 threads here and on sprintusers.com.....people compare a $400 phone to a $200 one. well you really can't the 5300 comes with a battery. but seriously i can't see myself using a phone with a small screen. a lot of the 8100 users are trying to rub it into the faces of the 5300 users... the 5300 is the flagship not the 8100.read my phone list look at #1....and that still stands...and than their the famous line" it's just a camera phone its not suppose to take great pics." thats a bunch of Texas horse sh*t. the 5300 takes awesome pics....but seriously the 8100 is a good phone it's not the best sprint phone but its a great phone for $200....i wonder if there is going to be some much hype on the a600,a620,i500,7200, and the t608. when they come out. and this whole hating thing will start all over.lol ( the 8100 is a great phone,but i like the better screen of the 5300)





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