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Posted by: WebologyChicago

Hello,


I currently have a BB 8830 on USCC and really love the push stuff, but a majority of my apps are still on palm, and honestly I love the palms appointment book better than BB. I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good push mail client that would work like BB Desktop Mail Redirector.

Thanks



Posted by: schmidtj

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webology
Hello,


I currently have a BB 8830 on USCC and really love the push stuff, but a majority of my apps are still on palm, and honestly I love the palms appointment book better than BB. I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good push mail client that would work like BB Desktop Mail Redirector.

Thanks
I used Chatteremail and a IMAP email account. Chatter's support of IMAP IDLE made Push emai a reality for me, no need for a BB or the cost/overhead of an Exchange server either.
www.chatteremail.com



Posted by: jwocky

Quote:
Originally Posted by schmidtj
I used Chatteremail and a IMAP email account. Chatter's support of IMAP IDLE made Push emai a reality for me, no need for a BB or the cost/overhead of an Exchange server either.
www.chatteremail.com


Good suggestion. I use chatter also for pushing email.



Posted by: AirTango

Nokia also has their client available.

http://www.sync.com/is_desktop_main.html



Posted by: unisound1

I use the Sprint Mobile e-mail client and get e-mails on my phone before they hit my inbox (aol). Before that I was using chattermail but it drained my standard battery faster.



Posted by: FESCSteve

Palms Blackberry Connect might be the closest thing to blackberry on your Treo.

http://www.palm.com/us/software/blackberryconnect/



Posted by: WebologyChicago

With Blackberry connect do I have to already have a blackberry account set up? Since I never use that actual email box, I would just like something to push the e-mail from my web server, as well as gmail and comcast.net over.


It appears I would have to use AT&T/Cingular for that to work. I'm on Sprint with a 755p so that's not an option. Oh Well, I guess I'll just keep carrying a bazillion phones LOL!

I need a man purse, 4 cell phones, and a giant wallet filled with all those damn loyality cards every store under the sun uses, and membership cards for sam and costco, and other business only stores, gym, etc etc,. My wallet is actually a 3 compartment pencil case for kids. It has card slots so I snagged it from my youngest.



Posted by: elmdel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webology
Hello,


I currently have a BB 8830 on USCC and really love the push stuff, but a majority of my apps are still on palm, and honestly I love the palms appointment book better than BB. I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good push mail client that would work like BB Desktop Mail Redirector.

Thanks

The new treo's 755p and centro plus most of the older models now have updates to versa mail that support EAS (exchange active sync). go over to mail2web and setup a free push email account. Your contacts,schedule and email will be all pushed to you automatically. You can also purchase a personal mail 2 web account or if your in business a hosted exchange solution. I have my wife on her new palm755p and my daugter who has a black centro. They are all using mail2web and EAS.



Posted by: WebologyChicago

Elmdel,

Let's play devil's advocate and protend I'm mentally retarded. My Current setup is this Outlook 2003, Vista Home Premium, Palm 755P, 2 hotmail addys that I don't really care about, a gmail addy I would like to be able to keep tabs on, and a private domain name that I personally own, it's set up on a virtual hosting system. I rarely if ever close outlook on my computer, as the calender is always loaded so that other family members know each others schedules and mommy and daddy like to sync it up. Using the palm desktop 6.2 Beta which is for Vista is a bad move, as it ONLY sync's with Palm Desktop, not outlook.

I need something as remotely close to blackberry redirector as possible, either allowing me to directly reply using the same email address from my private domain name, or something that will download to my outlook AND forward a copy to me on the treo at the e-mail address I have set up there.

Thanks for all the help, but I tried reading the mail2web.com website and everything I can understand means I'll have mail2web.com email, not another flipping email for me to keep track of. I'd rather have something that can support and work with my existing email adresses



Posted by: WebologyChicago

Or a desktop Redirector which is the most desireable option.



Posted by: elmdel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Webology
Elmdel,

Let's play devil's advocate and protend I'm mentally retarded. My Current setup is this Outlook 2003, Vista Home Premium, Palm 755P, 2 hotmail addys that I don't really care about, a gmail addy I would like to be able to keep tabs on, and a private domain name that I personally own, it's set up on a virtual hosting system. I rarely if ever close outlook on my computer, as the calender is always loaded so that other family members know each others schedules and mommy and daddy like to sync it up. Using the palm desktop 6.2 Beta which is for Vista is a bad move, as it ONLY sync's with Palm Desktop, not outlook.

I need something as remotely close to blackberry redirector as possible, either allowing me to directly reply using the same email address from my private domain name, or something that will download to my outlook AND forward a copy to me on the treo at the e-mail address I have set up there.

Thanks for all the help, but I tried reading the mail2web.com website and everything I can understand means I'll have mail2web.com email, not another flipping email for me to keep track of. I'd rather have something that can support and work with my existing email adresses


Not sure what carrier your using but if you have a palm 755p you have serveral options, I understand what you mean about your own domain and wanting to use a re-director.

First if you are with sprint you have two options, You can use the sprint mobile email client you can download directly from sprint and that is a push email client that works with the palm. If will push your mail for hotmail,aol,gmail,any pop3 or imap account. you just need to set the setting. the client is set for push all the time but the alerts have to be put on to inform you that you have email, otherwise you will just look at it. My daughters has her set to push all the time and in the middle of the night i can hear go off.

Second is versa mail, Versa mail client will support EAS(Exchange Active Sync)Push email. That is why I mention mail 2 web. The client also support imap and pop3 account, you would have to know the info on your domain accounts to setup the client. The imap and pop are setting on Versa mail right now are not push email. Word on the street is the developers(Palm) is working on adding idle support for imap4 complient servers to get pus email. (AOL,Yahoo,Gmail) In reading about Gmail new imap4 idle support it does not yet work witht he versa mail client. Searh the forums and see there might be a workaround.

If you get a paided mail 2 web hosted account you can setup a reply alisa to your mail account and also have mail2web go retrieve you email to for you and push it to you. As far as the users are consern, you are sending to your mail account. They wont ever know your sending from mail2web. I have my wife charter account setup to pull from mail2web and and the reply to alisa set for charter. You never ever see the mail2web account. But all mail is push which is nice. Similar to blackberry web client where you can have it go out and retrieve your email from the other accounts and push it to your device. Much better then a redirector and is not dependent on a redirector sitting on your desktop. You can also select the option to have mailsync to the dektop with your outlook and all calender and events and email are there. Nice.

I used a blackberry for a long time and was very content. I am now on a windows based Palm700wx and happy with the hosted exchange email solution and now its push.

I dont know of any redirectors other then the blackberry's. i notice up in the forum that someone mention Nokia has one. You might want to search on it. Good luck



Posted by: tnt2sniper

Be warned... Having chattermail run drains.. and I mean DRAINS your battery to half a day.. I was trying to ffind out y my 755p was dying so quickly so I first uninstalled chattermail and it solved my problem..

Just be warned..



Posted by: AirTango

Quote:
Originally Posted by elmdel
I dont know of any redirectors other then the blackberry's. i notice up in the forum that someone mention Nokia has one. You might want to search on it. Good luck


Nokia's intellisync has a desktop redirector so you have to leave your home or work PC up and running. This uses that old text to sync option which I think is good unless you have delayed text messages with your provider. It will also let you set up multiple accounts to check for POP email like Blackberry's BIS service. IMO, I think this maybe the closest thing to a Blackberry.

Some carriers offer intellisync directly through your account as a add on.



Posted by: mlauber

Ok soooooo if you want exchange push e-mail on your palm I have two words for you VERSAMAIL. Best thing palm ever wrote. Now if your on Verizon's network and you are paying for the unlimited data plan, use wireless sync for your pop3 or imap mail it's freeee.

On a side note, I have just discovered Kinoma player. Get this.... full youtube support for my Palm Treo, greatest thing in the world.

PS. please don't flame me, cheers!



Posted by: elmdel

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlauber
Ok soooooo if you want exchange push e-mail on your palm I have two words for you VERSAMAIL. Best thing palm ever wrote. Now if your on Verizon's network and you are paying for the unlimited data plan, use wireless sync for your pop3 or imap mail it's freeee.

On a side note, I have just discovered Kinoma player. Get this.... full youtube support for my Palm Treo, greatest thing in the world.

PS. please don't flame me, cheers!

We did tell him but he wants a redirector.



Posted by: WebologyChicago

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; PalmSource/Palm-D060; Blazer/4.5) 16;320x320)

the reason I can't do an exchange solution is that aside from paying for outside hosting I don't have the skill set yet to set up exchange. this would be a bandaid fix while I work on setting up an exchange server however the mail2web system with the charter alias sounds like the closest thing to my desires!
i'll admit I've slipped on following technology in the past 3 years. I used to be the one helping people. but if ya got dos questions fire away lol! the reason I want a redirector for now is I get so much email not letting outlook delete the mail isn't possible. and i'd never remember to delete it off the server. the desire is to move everything off of the leased space I pay for that they keep losing everything.



Posted by: Leke

http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php

For Sprint Customers you can download for free at sprint mobile email. http://www2.sprint.com/mr/news_dtl.do?id=14500

Awesome program, sill having trouble adding my exchange account but I suspect it's the exchange admin preventing it....



Posted by: Busta1n2

I have the HTC Touch with Sprint service. I gave up the work Treo that was receiving all of the info from Outlook and went to the HTC so I could get down to 1 phone....work/personal. Since the HTC is Windows they are telling me at work I cant get my e-mail...which blows my mind since everything at work is WINDOWS!! We are on an exchange server.....but it wont work?? Any help is appreciated...I love the phone but this is driving me nuts.



Posted by: lmcjipo

Quote:
Originally Posted by schmidtj
I used Chatteremail and a IMAP email account. Chatter's support of IMAP IDLE made Push emai a reality for me, no need for a BB or the cost/overhead of an Exchange server either.
www.chatteremail.com


I also use Chatteremail with an IMAP capable e-mail account (Gmail). It works great although sometimes I don't get the e-mail right away (takes a few minutes) but I'm not sure if this is due to Gmail/Google, my service provider's GPRS, or Chatteremail.



Posted by: cyberderf

Quote:
Originally Posted by elmdel
The new treo's 755p and centro plus most of the older models now have updates to versa mail that support EAS (exchange active sync). go over to mail2web and setup a free push email account. Your contacts,schedule and email will be all pushed to you automatically. You can also purchase a personal mail 2 web account or if your in business a hosted exchange solution. I have my wife on her new palm755p and my daugter who has a black centro. They are all using mail2web and EAS.


I wanted to do the same, use a forward to a mail2web address and setup it in EAS.. but I don' think it's possible to reply using your real email instead of your mail2wb email address if you don't buy an exchange plan. Am I right ?



Posted by: cyberderf

Quote:
Originally Posted by Busta1n2
We are on an exchange server.....but it wont work?? Any help is appreciated...I love the phone but this is driving me nuts.


Yes you can have and Exchange account setuped with your Touch. You can also get pushed email from an hotmail in the windows live app built in your Touch. Your touch battery will however drain in about 1.5 day with a Windows Live and/or exchange account installed.



Posted by: DigitalJEM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tnt2sniper
Be warned... Having chattermail run drains.. and I mean DRAINS your battery to half a day.. I was trying to ffind out y my 755p was dying so quickly so I first uninstalled chattermail and it solved my problem..

Just be warned..


There had to of been some other software that when loaded with Chatter caused the battery drain you're talking about.

I used Chatter e-mail from it's inception, first on a 650, then on a 700, then on a 755. I'd say for well over 2-1/2 years without any battery drain problems. I had the standard OEM battery, had Chatter connected to 5 IMAP email accounts all day long, from 6:30am when I left home till about 9 or so pm when I returned. With mild phone and data (other than chatter) usage during the day, my battery was still at about 35 to 40% when I got back home. I might also add that across those 5 IMAP accounts, I was receiving close to 200 emails a day, so the data side was definately being used. I'd say that's not all that bad. I had alot of other software loaded on my Treo's as well and never a battery drain issue.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Busta1n2
I have the HTC Touch with Sprint service. I gave up the work Treo that was receiving all of the info from Outlook and went to the HTC so I could get down to 1 phone....work/personal. Since the HTC is Windows they are telling me at work I cant get my e-mail...which blows my mind since everything at work is WINDOWS!! We are on an exchange server.....but it wont work?? Any help is appreciated...I love the phone but this is driving me nuts.


Does your work have an Outlook Web Access (OWA) server? i.e. outlook.domain.com or domain.com/exchange

If so, you can setup any windows mobile (5 or 6) device to access these email accounts going through the OWA server. Though, your company can still disable the ActiveSync module within active directory to keep you from using it, it's worth a try if you havn't already tried it.



Posted by: WebologyChicago

Alright, I want to update this, just incase anyone needs advice on this in the future.

I have a Sprint Treo 755p. Wanted to spend as little as possible, keeping my current 12.50 PV Ultimate that's grandfathered and includes unlimited text.

I ended up contacting the registrar of my existing domain name, asking if it was possible to edit the mx records so that I can have mail go to one vendor, but have the internet hosted at the current location. No Dice, had they said yes, I would have done that, and paid for a hosted exchange solution for push e-mail.

SOOO I started looking at the various "Live/Apps" things hosted on the web. Microsoft had one, it didn't support imap or pop, unless you paid, but google did, and they gave you better e-mail if you have a 501c3, which I happen to have. So I signed up for it. I now have all of my non gmail e-mail (Mind you, I'm *NOT* using @gmail.com for the email address either!!) forwarded to that adress, it will push the email directly to my palm 755p using the Sprint e-mail program, Versa Mail also supports it. I can check it on my mac at home, my pc laptop, all versions of outlook & enterage keep completely sync'd and it removes itself off the pda after 14 days even though the desktop archives it.

It's a wonderful program, and I'm quite happy with it!



Posted by: indyfsufan

Quote:
Originally Posted by unisound1
I use the Sprint Mobile e-mail client and get e-mails on my phone before they hit my inbox (aol). Before that I was using chattermail but it drained my standard battery faster.


I am using that, my only question is how do you log out so it doesn't drain the battery so fast?



Posted by: WebologyChicago

I personally use an Extended battery, and have a home charger at home, the office, and a car charger in both cars so I never see my battery lower than 1/2 charge, and that's with a full day inthe field!



Posted by: fishera

is there anyway to do this like the BB's do it? without BB Connect

somehow get Palm OS to use some push software with some server site to use SMS or whatever? I love the BB's push email!

thanks!



Posted by: WebologyChicago

imap pushes on it's own, so I couldn't tell you about a true bb replacement, believe me I've been looking myself.





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