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Posted by: dpeters8445

I was just curious, how many of you HoFo'ers own tablet pc's?
If so, what kind?
Likes? / Dislikes?

I'll start. I have a Lenevo X61 convertible tablet. It is running vista and has been pretty solid for me. This is my 2nd tablet pc. I had a Toshiba M400 previously. Tablet pc's are pretty awesome. I probably would never go back to a non-tablet laptop.

Take care, Doug

Posted by: Mashie

Yep I agree, I use a Toshiba Portege M400 with Vista Ultimate and it rocks. I love being able to flip the screen around in a meeting and take notes directly on the screen. I also like the looks on peoples faces when I turn the pen around and erase right on the screen

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Tablet PC's are more expensive then normal laptops, if my work had not provided me one, I probably would not spend the extra money.... but definately a nice item to have work pay for.

Posted by: maevro

I have been playing with the N810 Nokia - I know its not like those but its pretty nice.

Posted by: Urban Strata

I'm using a Fujitsu U810 tablet UMPC right now on a business trip to Amsterdam. There's nothing better than traveling light -- love it!

Fwiw, my next tablet will probably be full sized for the office, and I'll likely never go back to a non-tablet, either.

Posted by: dpeters8445

Cool, I'm glad to see there there is some cross-over between the HoFo and tablet pc community. I hang out quite a bit in the www.gottabemobile.com forums. Another good place to get good news on both tablet pc's and pocket pc's is www.jkontherun.com

Take care, Doug

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by dpeters8445

Cool, I'm glad to see there there is some cross-over between the HoFo and tablet pc community. I hang out quite a bit in the www.gottabemobile.com forums. Another good place to get good news on both tablet pc's and pocket pc's is www.jkontherun.com

Take care, Doug

Both great sites! Also be sure to check out:

Carrypad
Gadgets on the Go
Tablet PC Review
Uber Tablet
Ultra Mobile Life
UMPCPortal

All sites worth subscribing to. Cheers.

Posted by: sabesh

Fujitsu P1610D .. Soon to be outfitted with an SSD. Likes? What's NOT to like? All laptops should be convertible Tablets ..

Posted by: Dave Evans

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Originally Posted by sabesh

Fujitsu P1610D .. Soon to be outfitted with an SSD. Likes? What's NOT to like? All laptops should be convertible Tablets ..

I used to know a guy named Sabesh..........

Posted by: maevro

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...vs-sony-ux280p/

Nice little run down of the Vulcan Flip start Vs. OQO Vs. UX 280P

Posted by: sabesh

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Originally Posted by Dave Evans

I used to know a guy named Sabesh..........

Mr. Evans! How goes it? I haven't been by your wall in ages

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by sabesh

Fujitsu P1610D .. Soon to be outfitted with an SSD. Likes? What's NOT to like? All laptops should be convertible Tablets ..

Mmm... Looks really nice. Do you by chance have some comparison shots with other devices so I can get a sense of size? I've been having such fun with my Fujitsu U810 that I'm thinking of buying a mid-sized unit for more productivity.

So are the best tablet makers pretty much Fujitsu, Lenovo, and, oh, say, Toshiba?

Posted by: dpeters8445

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So are the best tablet makers pretty much Fujitsu, Lenovo, and, oh, say, Toshiba?[/QUOTE]

Yep, Also HP has a newer model 2710p that has been getting good reviews.

Dell is supose to be releasing their first convertible tablet very soon.

Motion Computing is the big guy on the block regarding slate tablet pc's. Their newest model is the LE1700, very nice, and I may own one soon.

Doug

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by dpeters8445

Motion Computing is the big guy on the block regarding slate tablet pc's. Their newest model is the LE1700, very nice, and I may own one soon.

Motion Computing? Why have I never heard of these guys? -- Or am I just living under a rock?

Posted by: dpeters8445

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

Motion Computing? Why have I never heard of these guys? -- Or am I just living under a rock?

Here is a link of a nice video review of the Motion LE 1700.

Link

Posted by: DigitalJEM

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I have a Fujitsu Lifebook T4215 TabletPC. I not only use it as a Tablet but also as a remote access terminal (so to say). When I am away from home I VPN into my home router and use my home computer via remote desktop. Then when I need the tablet functionality I just close remote desktop and use my tablet normally :-)

Posted by: hitch

I've got the Fujitsu P1510 and love it. I was about to pull the trigger on the 810 but couldn't find a good reason to drop the 1510. I've been using Fujitsu's touch screen and tablet pc's for 5-6 years and they have been super reliable. In my family the lineup looks like this.
P1510D ME
P1120 Son
P1120 Wife
B2610 Daughter

and a couple of early 2xxx series that are currently retired.

I carry one standard battery and one extended for the 1510 and I always have plenty of power for cross country flights with constant work, or movie playing. I'm pleased with the size and it tethers easily with the tytn. I'm reluctant to go smaller and think I can actually get and real work done on it.

Posted by: karibOS

I have a Lenovo x41 that I've had for over a year.

I've sent it back once and have been on the phone with support continuously over it. I think I got a dud and I have to go through all the formalities to get service on it.

When it works it is absolutely great and exactly what I need in my field of work. I bought OneNote and it's great too.

If my laptop wasn't so "sometimey" I'd be in love with it.

Posted by: Urban Strata

I sooo want a Fujitsu P1620... but with an active digitizer.

Why oh why Fujitsu did you have to go with a passive digitizer in this otherwise beautiful tablet?

Posted by: pen25

oh yuo guys are making me drool. waiting on the eeeeeeeeeepc with touch screen. a friend has a gateway and that things hinge scares me. it rocks back and forth and she said it has done that from the get go. how are your guys hinges? are they holding up and stable? or does it have allot of play? and i want the u810 but man i dont know if id like the mouse button on that thing. too bad they didnt do a touchpoint but then again i forget i can just touch the screen.

Posted by: Urban Strata

Anyone get the new HP tx2000 convertible tablet yet? Wondering if anyone has impressions of it... It looks nice!

Posted by: sabesh

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

Oops, didn't see this until now. Here's a comparison pic:

I'm partial to Panasonic, Fujitsu & Sony lappies. If you are looking for a portable lappie which isn't a tablet, check out the Sony TZ series. For tablets, I feel Fujitsu are the best as they've been at it longer than any of the other major manufacturers. All the little details on a Fujitsu tablet makes sense. Checkout Hugo Ortega's videos for tablet reviews.

My next portable will be a Sony UX490N/UX92 or an OQO e2 SSD with daylight screen. Leaning more towards the UX as I prefer faster CPU speed over looks and slightly better portability. Cheers.

Posted by: hitch

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

I sooo want a Fujitsu P1620... but with an active digitizer.

Why oh why Fujitsu did you have to go with a passive digitizer in this otherwise beautiful tablet?

It would be nice if they offered it both ways. I use my 1510 while walking around a lot doing inventory and working spreadsheets. I use my finger to select things and rarely use a stylus. I sold my active tablet in favor of the passive screen on my 1510 because it was a pain to hold the tablet in one hand and the stylus constantly in the other. So depending on what you are using it for I guess they both have uses. My feeling is that in mobile use passive would work much better allowing finger touch. If I've got a hand free to use an active stylus I'm sitting and have a desk to place the laptop. Then I'd just plug in my mouse and use that. What is your common usage (programs) that the active screen would help you? Perhaps I'm missing out on not having the active digitizer and should switch back.

I just bought the htc x7501 on the CompUSA closeout. I'm playing with it doing the same tasks in customer’s warehouses and so far the larger screen is ok but the screen size of the 1510 is more ideal. I'm still searching for the ideal touch screen device.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by hitch

What is your common usage (programs) that the active screen would help you? Perhaps I'm missing out on not having the active digitizer and should switch back.

I mostly want a touch screen for inking in OneNote, so I think an active digitizer is the only way to go. As much as I love my Fujitsu U810, it's not the best inking experience in the world.

So I'm thinking about buying a Lenovo ThinkPad X61t, HP 2710p or Fujitsu T2010. Oh, how I wish Fujitsu offered the P1620 with an active digitizer and more robust pen; it would make my decision so much easier!

@Sabesh: Thanks for the pic!

Posted by: pen25

ok now i just have to ask. what id active and passive. i know im lazy ;-)

Posted by: sabesh

I prefer passive digitizers. The Fujitsu P1610 also lets you rest your palm on the screen as you type and still accurately recognizes what's being typed with the pen.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by sabesh

I prefer passive digitizers. The Fujitsu P1610 also lets you rest your palm on the screen as you type and still accurately recognizes what's being typed with the pen.

Hey Sabesh, I'm EXTREMELY interesting in buying a P1620 in the next 3-5 months or so. My primary need is intensive note taking with OneNote, along with Web surfing in Firefox and Office 2007.

In your opinion, would the P1610/1620 be a good match for my needs? Inking is of utmost importance to me, but I'm fearful of the passive touch screen and small display size, not to mention the dinky-looking pen, though the overall device size is my ideal. Thoughts?

Thanks!

Posted by: sabesh

Urban,

Sorry 'bout the delay. I don't peek in here as much as I should. Wow, looks like you intend to use it almost the same as I. One Note is great and inking is fast and accurate. Office runs well, so do other heavy apps like Photoshop CS3. Yes, the pen doesn't feel substantial, but you get used to it. It's light, so a firm grip is needed.

I like passive touch screens as I can use any old stylus with them. The P1610D's touch screen is awesome, as you can rest your palm on it while inking. The screen is not the greatest for video as it's not sharp like a Sony xbrite.

I also use it to telnet, ssh & scp into remote devices via VPN. It works well as a desktop replacement for a techie. Hopefully, the 1620 has a better screen with better clarity.

If you want a smaller device, check out my Sony Vaio VGN-UX490N review.

Cheers,

Sabesh.

Posted by: Urban Strata

Thanks for the info and advice, Sabesh. I also noticed James Kendrick just got the P1620 and will be reviewing it soon! Keep an eye out here:

http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkonthe...-fujitsu-p.html

Posted by: sabesh

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

Thanks for the info and advice, Sabesh. I also noticed James Kendrick just got the P1620 and will be reviewing it soon! Keep an eye out here:

http://jkontherun.blogs.com/jkonthe...-fujitsu-p.html

Thx, will do. Cheers.

Posted by: whtrbt7

I own a P1610D and an OQO02. James' reviews are always fun. Passive digitizer on the P1600 series is really nice. I would recommend it with Windows XP instead of Vista still. The passive digitizer on the P1600 series has been redone with a lot of major tweaks. First of all, it's a glossy screen now. The other thing that's great is that it uses intelligent contact software so it knows the difference between your palm and your stylus. In the future, they may get more advanced software to do multiple contact and generalized contact recognition ala multitouch. Overall the P1600 series is really well made and is still comfortable to touchtype on.

The OQO02 is actually kind of the opposite end of the spectrum. It's less of a serious machine that places emphasis on good active digitizer tech to do inking, websurfing, and general office apps. Even crazier is that I play WOW on it if I'm in a remote location and don't really want to whip out a larger laptop. It's also capable of playing movies etc.... There's no ability to touchtype on the OQO02 without an external keyboard. It's also much slower than the P1610D but it's main uses is in portable computing that's much more active than what the P1610D allows. Basically what I'm saying is: If you don't have time to sit down and whip out a P1610D, the OQO02 may be a good fit since you can use it standing up in a public place without much room. Ever try VNC to a server while on the bus in NYC during rush hour? It's not pretty but it gets the job done

Posted by: sabesh

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Originally Posted by whtrbt7

<snip>It's also much slower than the P1610D but it's main uses is in portable computing that's much more active than what the P1610D allows <snip>

If you can deal with a bit more size, try the Sony UX490N: It's almost as fast as my P1610D. I even use Photoshop CS3 on it with ease. I use it for oncall work stuff on the go as well. The SSD combined with the speedy core 2 solo chip really helps.

Posted by: natalie1981

Was able to get my hands on the HTC Shift for a few days but never really liked it. I guess UMPCs are not really my thing. Check out my HTC Shift Review.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Was able to get my hands on the HTC Shift for a few days but never really liked it. I guess UMPCs are not really my thing. Check out my HTC Shift Review.

At the Shift's price, I'd take a Fujitsu P1620 any day. Or, for that matter, a less expensive Fujitsu U810, which I have and love. Oh, and then there's the Lenovo X61 Tablet, which Lenovo's outlet store has been blowing out for around $200-$300 less than the Shift.

I hate to say it, but HTC really missed the mark on this one.

Posted by: doni

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Originally Posted by Urban Strata

Each to his own preferences, but there's no way you could compare the P1620, it is just a different kind of animal and more expensive by the time you configure it as you want. The U810 is also not a good comparison, if you want to compare it, a better one would be U1010, which is much closer to specs and price as well (btw, I hate how it looks, but that's personal opinion). I got my Shift for $1,400 + $60 shipping, and I'm sure the reseller still made a bunch. Obviously dealers are gauging, especially the likes of expansys/mobileplanet. Whereas Fujitsu you can buy directly from them as well, and resellers don't have as much flexibility in pricing.

Either way, good or bad, you have to consider that it has a second processor and WM OS, gimmick or otherwise (btw, ppl have already started hacking it and soon would be full WM, whether you need it, that's another question).

I'd personally pay another $500 if they would release it with proper full fledged WM with voice and gps, an SSD HDD and better battery.

P.S. Oh yeah, and I don't really need it, just like gadgets and had to have it

That's why can't complain too much.

Posted by: Urban Strata

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Originally Posted by doni

Each to his own preferences...

It's definitely to each his (or her) own. For example, I love the keyboard on my tiny Fujitsu U810, but I have a much harder time with the keyboard on my larger Asus Eee PC. Similarly, I've had a hard time using the keyboard on the larger Shift when I tried it at CES and other events, though that doesn't count for much since you can't rightfully assess a keyboard in the middle of a trade show floor.

All that said, I've decided 12.1" tablet displays are the sweet spot for me: that's about the size of a standard notepad, and the size I feel most comfortable on when taking notes with OneNote.

Right now, the Dell Latitude XT, Fujitsu T2010 and Lenovo X61 Tablet are on top of my wanted list.

Posted by: doni

I totally agree, 12in is way better and I've always looked at Tablet PCs before. The only reason I never got one is 'cause don't really need it at this point. I have a small and light laptop and never took it out of my home

I prefer to stay away from PCs when out and about, or on a holiday etc. My work doesn't require it at this point either, and better not for a while. Only reason I have a laptop is because I don't like using it at the same spot, i.e. allows some mobility at home.

Obviously, my opinion then is quite subjective when it comes to UMPC, Tablets etc. They only fascinate me as gadgets, and I get something when I can't resist the temptation and curiosity, which in this case was the HTC Shift. And who knows, maybe I'm gonna take it with me when on trips and such and find it useful

Posted by: natalie1981

Well I have to say the HTC shift IS gorgeous but like I said in my review, I can't help but compare other 7 inch UMPCs with the ASUS EEE PC. If Asus can make something that dirt cheap, I wish others would follow.

I wish HTC would just concentrate on making their PDA Phones better. Rather than make UMPCS, they should concentrate on an HTC TyTN III with specs like a 3 inch screen, slide out QWERTY Keyboard, 600 MHz processor, 256MB of RAM, HSDPA, GPS, and WiFi. With specs like that, I won't need a UMPC.