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Posted by: KillerKeller_jr

Quote:
Originally Posted by janus622
Wondering, if I have a non VZW flash (nTelos - BREW) on my v3m already, is there any reason I couldn't just upload the modified seems, java files, and mma files to enable java? That's the only feature I really care about anyway.


Yes on the seems and MMA files but no to the java files, you have to flash a java enabled firmware. As of right now that consist of Telus and Bell firmwares only, all other firmwares are Brew only. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.



Posted by: luay78

Guys can you tell me for V3m motorola which seem for the phone book then comes inside it categories ,, i need to swap from mine v3m to one having PCL Pelephone software. please guide me thank you for help my friends,.
luay



Posted by: luay78

MOTOROLA V3M
phone which i installed on it PCL_V3m_01.05.00R_HA_Monster_03.rar .. i made some seems changed and i made it write arabic letters and its fine. i just recognize that it wite arabic on sms and when i send the msg it reached to the reciever BLANK MSG . my letters not shown in his inbox.. Can you please help me to identify which file is responsible for this. Or if its seems problem or file problem, and what ist.. please help me !!



Posted by: mohmad200801

thanks thanks



Posted by: mstandlee

Ok. So I just completed this on my Razr v3c. Everything work's great. I just have two problems. One, I dont have MMS Messaging, which is fine as I dont use it much anyweyz, (even though I would like it back. I have Data service's) and two, I cannot edit or make new contacts. This one is a bit more of a problem. I went from Alltel to Telus. And help would be appreciate.

Thanks,
mstandlee



Posted by: KillerKeller_jr

Quote:
Originally Posted by mstandlee
Ok. So I just completed this on my Razr v3c. Everything work's great. I just have two problems. One, I dont have MMS Messaging, which is fine as I dont use it much anyweyz, (even though I would like it back. I have Data service's) and two, I cannot edit or make new contacts. This one is a bit more of a problem. I went from Alltel to Telus. And help would be appreciate.

Thanks,
mstandlee


Make sure you have the correct MMS data settings for Alltel and go into MMS settings and set it to your Alltel MMS, they are floating around here somewhere. As for you contacts, I once had that issue, if you have them backed-up, do a restore and that should fix the issue where you can't edit them. I had a full backup from BitPim and once I restored them fully I was then able to edit them again. Hope that helps a little!



Posted by: Aixelsyd

FYI sending MMS does not work on the Telus v3c flash, if you look threw this thread I brought it up a while ago and a few fellow members said it does not work. However you should be able to receive MMS msgs if it is setup correctly.

As for the contacts thing yea try ^^^^ idea or write your 2742 seem file back to the phone again. I had that same thing happen on my sons phone that was flashed to Alltel's firmware. For over a year everything was fine, then one day he went to enter a new one and it would not allow him to do so. So I just wrote my 2742 seem backup back to the phone and all was good to go.



Posted by: mstandlee

Thanks guy's. I wrote my 2742 seem back to my phone and now it works great. Sucks about the MMS though. Oh well, one small price to pay for having Java.



Posted by: Aixelsyd

Sweet glad to hear it worked out for ya. Peace



Posted by: dcarico

Okay guys I know I am about 2 years behind here but I deal in reburbished phones and the Razrs (V3c and V3m) are where I am at now. If anyone is still monitoring this thread I would very much appreciate some help.
I have gone through every post and followed Mark V's guide first time to the letter and second time using some seem short cuts provided by Goldmembr. Each time I am sure to take the account to another ESN while I do my work. Both times I get a phone that works on the Verizon network for talk and text but gives me "authentication failed" for data. I have created the secondary MIP and made it active. I think my problem is the seems. Mark's guide (http://mark.cdmaforums.com/telus_upgrade1.htm) at point 3d and 3e has you first restoring a seem from a backup unless that is a Verizon backup and then your supposed to first backup the Telus seem:

He writes..."3d. Use RADIOCOMM to restore your seems.... NOTE: this may write the 2742 Seem that was on your phone when the backup was run.. So, if you ran the backup while the VERIZON firmware was on your phone, it may restore the Verizon 2742 seem to your phone... as such.. Please Stop now, use P2KSeem for V710 to backup your Telus 2742 seem file BEFORE you use RadioComm to restore the seems."

But in this thread Goldmembr posted the seems.rar file with a 2742 and 275a seem already edited. I have tried to do Mark's guide and I have tried to ignore this part of Mark's guide and just right Goldmembr's seems but neither work. On a V3c or m which path should I take?



Posted by: kbman

GoldMembr would tell you that he never used RadioComm to do this and still doesn't because he much prefers to write each seem individually and be sure each one was right as he wrote them using P2kSeemSD, the original tool. In your case, if you are having difficulty, I would agree that that is a better way to assure you are writing everything correctly and to find any errors you have made.
This is despite the fact that I worked with Mark_V for many hours to develop the seem tables and refine the RadioComm method.

GoldMembr's seems should work well but I generally prefer to edit my own.

Did you restore the RTT Data file and a valid web session?

Have you reread the seems after writing to see that they contain the proper data.



Posted by: dcarico

kbman,

First the easy question: I did restore the RTT Data file as per Mark's instructions. As for the websession I have restored a valid websession. It is for a proxy that I host and it works on all the other phones with the VZW firmware.

Now the hard stuff:
I know the two seems are 2742 and 275a. I have not reread the seems. I will. Once I do what am I comparing them to? Goldmembr's "seems.rar" that he posted? His 2742 seem says "at line 90 over to the right "(.902 User Cancelled.903 Loss of Service.905 Attrib)"
Does that look right?

I should be able to restore the backups and write these two seems, create the secondary MIP file and have data right?

I will deal with JAVA after that but I must have data first.

dcarico



Posted by: kbman

It's really the other seems in the RadioComm backup that you need to check.
Those are the ones involved with data authentication and the MMS profile as well as BREW etc.

That's why in this case it's probably best if you do all of them(over 20) by hand with P2Kseem so that you can verify the contents of each one. I assume you are including a MMS proxy tab in your web session if you want all that to work as well.

Unfortunately my Telus flashed V3c died after I lent it to a friend so I no longer have the phone to work with and it's been a very long time since I did all of this on it.

Bottom line is that you need to look at what was written and see where the problem is and fix it and it can be difficult from my end to say exactly where that might be.

The procedure you're using was meant for Kim/L7c and they work differently from the V3c for which a complete guide was never written. The fundamentals are much the same but you have to interpolate somewhat.



Posted by: GoldMembr

Quote:
Originally Posted by kbman
It's really the other seems in the RadioComm backup that you need to check.
Those are the ones involved with data authentication and the MMS profile as well as BREW etc.

That's why in this case it's probably best if you do all of them(over 20) by hand with P2Kseem so that you can verify the contents of each one. I assume you are including a MMS proxy tab in your web session if you want all that to work as well.

Unfortunately my Telus flashed V3c died after I lent it to a friend so I no longer have the phone to work with and it's been a very long time since I did all of this on it.

Bottom line is that you need to look at what was written and see where the problem is and fix it and it can be difficult from my end to say exactly where that might be.

The procedure you're using was meant for Kim/L7c and they work differently from the V3c for which a complete guide was never written. The fundamentals are much the same but you have to interpolate somewhat.



Ya what he said. Where most people went wrong if you are using my seems ie. 2742 and 275a go back and read where i posted them you must use the seem Bytes i posted there for 275a NOT 0000 or you can do the 275a seem edit manually yourself below. Whatever way you do it do the 275a edit to 275b as well manually or upload my 275a renamed to 275b after the upload to 275a. 275b is done for purpose of a Master Reset so 275a will stay to what you have it set to. 2742 can be uploaded with a length of 0000. After you do that type in ##DATA password 000000 and make sure it is set to yourphonenumber@vzw3g.com as well as then doing the secondary MIP profile in QPST Service Programing and setting it as the active profile ie. setting 01 in the drop down instead of 00.

Manual MIP Edit
Seem 275a Bytes 0100 Record 0001
Offset 00f4 change from 03 to 04 hex side

Seem 275b Bytes 0100 Record 0001
Offset 00f4 change from 03 to 04 hex side



Posted by: dcarico

kbman,

I assume you mean these: from Mark V's guide:

"That table file will backup EACH of the following seems..."

Seem 04aa Bytes 7A Record 0001
Seem 038e Bytes 7A Record 0001
Seem 01d1 Bytes 7A Record 0001
Seem 29a0 Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 29c0 Bytes 7a Record 0001
Seem 2976 Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 2977 Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 2978 Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 2979 Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 2994 Bytes 60 Record 0001
Seem 2995 Bytes 60 Record 0001
Seem 2997 Bytes 20 Record 0001
Seem 299a Bytes 70 Record 0001
Seem 299b Bytes 70 Record 0001
Seem 29a1 Bytes 20 Record 0001
Seem 29a9 Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 29b2 Bytes 30 Record 0001
Seem 29b3 Bytes 30 Record 0001
Seem 29b6 Bytes 20 Record 0001
Seem 29ba Bytes 60 Record 0001
Seem 29bb Bytes 60 Record 0001
Seem 29bc Bytes 40 Record 0001
Seem 29be Bytes 90 Record 0001
Seem 29bd Bytes 90 Record 0001
Seem 29e9 bytes 82 Record 0001
Seem 01d2 bytes 7A Record 0001

You say "do" them by hand and I will but do you mean save each seem from a Verizon flashed phone before I start flashing it? Then write each seem back one by one to the Telus flash? Can I use any working Verizon firmware phone that's working? I have a bunch laying around.

dcarico



Posted by: kbman

no, some are generic but many are specific to the phone and contain the data auth components so they must come from the same phone when its activated on vzw. 29a0 must be edited with your MDN@vzw3g.com.
You need tio read more to understand what you're editing and why.



Posted by: dcarico

Reading everything I can find on the subject. It would be easy to get discouraged right now and give up but I am not going to let that happen. I looked at your posts. They only give me 250 of them so it doesn't go back that far. Then I looked at your thread starts and found your Mega Seem table. That thread had very little discussion but I downloaded the seem table. When I pull it up in RadioComm, it has information about the seem but no hex data I am used to seeing on the right side. I will keep reading.
I did change the 29a0 seem as you indicated. Before the change it had 4.3.8.7.4.9.....in P2K Seem so that was definitely off. I am getting "Error:Cannot resolve hostname" now which is as least better I think....



Posted by: dcarico

Update***

I wrote the shared and AAA keys in hex to the secondary MIP settings and got 403 forbidden which I thought was even better. Then I wrote my websession again with PST and IT WORKS!!! I am very excited! Now I can get the JAVA file system looking right and I am set! Just gotta do it now for 1000 or so more Razrs before I put them out. Thanks for your help so far.



Posted by: bob_the_tomato

I'm certainly no expert, but from the cross-carrier flashing I've done, it appears that Verizon firmware looks in different places for data and MMS authentication than standard Motorola firmware. And so when you try to activate a Motorola firmware on Verizon, it doesn't work because the right things don't get written in the right places. And so while having seem 29a0 read 4.3.8.7.4.9... works great on Verizon's firmware, data won't authenticate on a Motorola firmware unless 29a0 is manually edited as GoldMembr, kbman and others have amazingly managed to figure out for us.

This is fine if you are just doing it for your own personal phones. It makes it very difficult however to modify these phones and sell them to other people, as items such as these need to be manually edited uniquely for each user/account (OTA programming/activation will not write these settings correctly because it is trying to write what Verizon firmware wants to see.) The thought of doing this 1000 times for 1000 different users and their accounts makes me very tired. But then again, the thought of actually making money from an exciting challenge like hacking cell phones sounds quite fun indeed. So you gotta know what will work for you.



Posted by: dcarico

Everytime I try and download a JAVA app I get an error. "The connection dropped and the installation did not complete. Please try installing again." I have compared everything in the file dump and it matches in BitPIM. P2K 3.2.2 and 3.2.6 do not show all the folders and I completely read and reread this thread and used 3.2.2 for the upload of the JAVA files but they just don't show up there.
I should be able to download JAVA apps right?



Posted by: Aixelsyd

Are you writing the entire Java folder over using p2kcommander or doing each file one at a time? If you are doing it as the entire folder I'd suggest doing it one file at a a time. I've never had good luck doing entire folders as it seems stuff does not all get written correctly.

Also when downloading a Java app I'm assuming you are doing it via Openwave.



Posted by: kbman

Sorry been very busy. You said before that you were using a custom proxy for your web session and that needs to be configured server side to support downloading of .jad and .jar files and you need to use an IP in the web session not a domain as well as run unauthenticated.

Running your own WAP proxy for java apps can be complicated...obviously.



Posted by: dcarico

I am using Openwave to download and I am trying to download from other sources, not just my proxy. I have tried opera mini browser download as well as a JAVA app called mSpace directly from the source. I did try moving the files over one by one. I suppose now I should delete the files I can see in BitPIM and leave the folders. Then I will go back with P2K 3.2.2 or 3.2.6 and copy the files over again.



Posted by: moxieman1

What steps are needed to get Opera Mini on a Verizon V3c?



Posted by: sunset6

I just wanted to say a great big thanks for all of you here. I don't normally post but I have been researching flashing my v3m for a few years and I first started flashing from verizon to vivo. All your work and info along with Mark at cdmaforum and hacktherazr, it went perfect! But of course, the main reason I began this quest was because I WANTED JAVA!!! Well, guess what? I know have a fully functional vivo flash AND a fully functional Telus flash with the wonderful ability to download java apps! Couldn't be happier! Thanks to all of you!!!!



Posted by: dcarico

sunset6,

Do you have MMS capability, both send and receive?

dcarico



Posted by: Aixelsyd

Highly unlikely seeing as if memory serves me when I had my v3c flashed to telus I could receive but not send. Or maybe the other way around can't recall as I no longer own it.

Fyi that is normal on the v3c from what I was told tho. And on that note there is no fix for it.



Posted by: sunset6

I haven't been able to conquer that one yet. I can send MMS but can't receive, which is really not a big deal for me since I tend to spend more time playing with my phone than I do connecting to people. I can tell you that my brain sometimes gets to the point where I don't think I could possibly take in any more information and I wind up having to read everything all over again. Maybe you could help me out with something though. I've been trying to figure out if there's a need or if it would be beneficial to upload goldmembers 12 icon menu files? I also thought I read somewhere that using the Vivo 2742 seem would fix the MMS problem. Can you tell that I'm getting to the point of too much information to comprehend anymore? I need to quit bouncing all over the place reading different ways to do different **** and just stay with the few that have really got me this far!





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