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Upgrading to 1.1.2 this weekend! Hopefully!
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Posted by: sal74

I find that my iPhone freezes at least once every two days since I had installed BDS SubSystems and much to my surprise I couldn't uninstall it (only reinstall). As I was searching on a solution to uninstall BDS Subsystems I ran into another guide for updrading to 1.1.2

http://www.modmyifone.com/forums/sh...g+BSD+SubSystem

Instead of restoring the firmware back to 1.1.1 I've deceided to take the plunge and updrage to 1.1.2. The above link seems much of a shorter procedure yet I've also read the guides upgrade for the HOFO iPhone Gurus' (MacGeek and Drakkhen). Which one is right? Are they the same cause I have noticed some differences between the two.

Help me please as I take the upgrade this weekend and I'd just like to do this right.

Thanks

Posted by: Lestat_d

there are successful variants, key is to do oktoprep before going to 1.1.2 so you can jailbreak there. Also, turn on airplane mode before running anySim on 1.1.2; those are the two biggest gotchas - watch those (in addition to making sure you are in dfu mode) and most guides out now work fine, despite variations.

Best advice is to atleast understand the milestone guide and why you are doing what you are doing before starting. If your not sure you are ready, you aren't - read more before starting.

Posted by: MacGeek15

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Originally Posted by Lestat_d

there are successful variants, key is to do oktoprep before going to 1.1.2 so you can jailbreak there. Also, turn on airplane mode before running anySim on 1.1.2; those are the two biggest gotchas - watch those (in addition to making sure you are in dfu mode) and most guides out now work fine, despite variations.

Best advice is to atleast understand the milestone guide and why you are doing what you are doing before starting. If your not sure you are ready, you aren't - read more before starting.

Why do you have to put in on airplane mode to run anySIM 1.1.2?
I've used anySIM 1.1.2 on at least 40 different iPhones and never put it on this mode. Just wondering if there is any significance to doing so?

Posted by: Lestat_d

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Originally Posted by MacGeek15

If using a guide where you are running anySIM 1.2.1u vs. 1.1.1 firmware that has been up&downgraded from 1.1.2 first you don't need to...

But if you are actually running anySim vs 1.1.2 firmware right after initial upgrade from 1.1.1 -- then turning on airplane mode is recommended.

Depends on guide you use methinks...

Posted by: BornInBremen

Here's what the Dev team has to say about upgrading 1.1.1 iPhones to 1.1.2:

What to do?:
Wait and don't upgrade yet if you have a working 1.1.1 or 1.0.2 phone. Unless we have a bullet-proof solution for activation and unlocking, there is not much use of upgrading to 1.1.2, suffing endless hours of pain, before finally downgrading to 1.1.1 to make it work again.

I think that says it all.

Posted by: Lestat_d

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Originally Posted by BornInBremen

Here's what the Dev team has to say about upgrading 1.1.1 iPhones to 1.1.2:

What to do?:
Wait and don't upgrade yet if you have a working 1.1.1 or 1.0.2 phone. Unless we have a bullet-proof solution for activation and unlocking, there is not much use of upgrading to 1.1.2, suffing endless hours of pain, before finally downgrading to 1.1.1 to make it work again.

I think that says it all.

Actually its not as bad as they suggest -- provided you watch out for those key points mentioned; DFU mode properly, okToPrep, etc.

The jailbreak/unlock isn't as much the pain -- now that you can do 1.2.1u on 1.1.2 (w/ airplane mode on); what the real pain is -- is that if you need to restore, you have to go back down to 1.1.1 to okToPrep the jailbreak again -- and go back to 1.1.2; you cant immediate restore/re-jailbreak at 1.1.2.

Posted by: BornInBremen

The point being, 1.1.2 offers no real advantage over 1.1.1, so why go through all that trouble, only to have to keep going back to 1.1.1?

I'll stick with the tried-and-true 1.1.1, thank you.

Posted by: Gdog123

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Originally Posted by BornInBremen

The point being, 1.1.2 offers no real advantage over 1.1.1, so why go through all that trouble, only to have to keep going back to 1.1.1?

I'll stick with the tried-and-true 1.1.1, thank you.

Ditto. I ran into a minor setback with my upgrade to 1.1.1 from 1.0.2 and almost had a heart attack when I thought I messed up my phone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!

Question: For those having used AnySIM to unlock, would it be possible to re-virginize and then go with IPSF? One of my friends asked me this but I have no clue...

Posted by: Lestat_d

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Originally Posted by BornInBremen

The point being, 1.1.2 offers no real advantage over 1.1.1, so why go through all that trouble, only to have to keep going back to 1.1.1?

I'll stick with the tried-and-true 1.1.1, thank you.

There are advantages. Its been shown the clock and bus speed has been sped up in 1.1.2, giving a slightly faster UI responsiveness; and battery life has been reported as a little better -- given Edge/WiFi goes into a better sleep mode when not in use with 1.1.2.

Now -- given those benefits, which do exist -- its up to folks to decide on a cost vs benefit basis if those gains are worth them having to restore to 1.1.1 and back up to 1.1.2 in the event a restore is required...and how comfortable they feel in executing a guide to do that.

But don't say there aren't benefits, when you clearly aren't up to speed on the 1.1.2 details -- there clearly are.

Posted by: Lestat_d

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Originally Posted by Gdog123

Yes, absolutely.

Also, IPSF fixes the seczone corruption done by the old AnySim / iUnlock -- so you can actually try running IPSF on 1.0.2 without virginizing -- and it should virginize for you essentially while it unlocks.

Sweet deal about IPSF is that its a one time unlock -- and lasts from upgrade to upgrade. I unlocked once back on 1.0.2, and have only had to jailbreak/activate moving to 1.1.1 and then 1.1.2 That made it worth the $60 for me.

Posted by: BornInBremen

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Originally Posted by Lestat_d

...But don't say there aren't benefits, when you clearly aren't up to speed on the 1.1.2 details -- there clearly are.

I didn't say there aren't benefits, I said there aren't any real advantages over 1.1.1. The small boost in clock speeds is barely noticable, and the battery life can be accomplished on 1.1.1 by installing items from intaller.app. My point is that 1.1.2 doesn't really offer anything COMPELLING over 1.1.1; there are no new features, and there isn't anything that can't be done to the tried-and-true 1.1.1 to match. I agree with the Dev Team: if you have a working 1.1.1, don't upgrade it, as there's really no point to it and the liklihood of problems is higher.

Posted by: Lestat_d

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Originally Posted by BornInBremen

Not compelling to *you*, but the fact many have upgraded to 1.1.2 despite the no immediate restore headache seems to indicate many do find the benefits compelling; which also include increased stability also, so I wouldn't say the likelihood of problems is greater -- this hasn't been the case for me, and many others.

Opinion is fine -- so long as described as opinion. But your initial post suggested no benefits existed at all; not that some did but they weren't 'worthy of upgrade' -- in your opinion.

I think it is worth the upgrade based on personal experience, as do many others; provided you are willing to accept a restore means going back down to 1.1.1 and up again... So far I haven't had to do that yet -- after a 15 minute painless upgrade from 1.1.1 -- so again think the dev team (and your) predictions of gloom are a bit overstated.

Posted by: BornInBremen

My 1.1.1 has not been "unstable" in the least, except for the problem with Summerboard and the "dim wallpaper" option, which seems to have been corrected in the latest (full release) of Summerboard 3.0. I don't see how the iPhone could be any more stable, since it doesn't crash at all for me.

1.1.2 does have some minor changes, but they're just that: minor. Nothing really compelling, IMHO, and there are multiple posts here on HoFo, as well as over at ModMyiFone.com (which appears to be down since yesterday for some reason), with people spending hours trying to get 1.1.2 installed, only to finally resort back to 1.1.1.

The only two things I want from 1.1.2 is the "no lock screen when restarting Springboard", and by accounts, the shuffle feature works better in iPod. The small overclocking of the CPU doesn't really interest me, and the battery life/WiFi standby doesn't really interest me either (as I use NetServices to turn off WiFi when I'm not @ home, thereby negating any battery saving from going into standby.) But I'm not willing to go through all the trouble of 1.1.2 just go get those small, virtually insignificant changes, when I have a perfectly fine, working, STABLE 1.1.1 iPhone.

Posted by: sal74

Thanks for your feedback gentlemen, I think I'll pass on 1.1.2 and wait.