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Originally Posted by smg1976
The majority of customers actually do appreciate us checking ID's, and understand why we're doing it.
The resistance usually comes from young people, or from people who are sent in to take care of problems, by the account owner. |
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Originally Posted by lowoncash
i get yelled at least 3 times a day by customers for this very reason. what i hate is when they call customer care and cc says that they dont put people on the authorized users list. they say that all they need to do is verify the name and last four of the ssn. My assistant manager got into an argument with a customer care manager b/c the cc manager refused to put someone on the list. we finnally had to email him a copy of the policy.
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Originally Posted by lowoncash
i get yelled at least 3 times a day by customers for this very reason. what i hate is when they call customer care and cc says that they dont put people on the authorized users list. they say that all they need to do is verify the name and last four of the ssn. My assistant manager got into an argument with a customer care manager b/c the cc manager refused to put someone on the list. we finnally had to email him a copy of the policy.
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Originally Posted by FormerRuling
Mostly because AT&T made a HUGE DEAL about "No more Authorized Users" back when they went to the Last 4 and Name verification. Then all of a sudden like 2 months ago we literally just get an email that says 'Now you add Retail Authorized Users - this is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than Authorized Users, Don't get them confused we still hate Authorized Users.' and thats about all we got.
Then a store rep calls in and asks to add an Authorized User...thus prompting your post. And the fact that a lot of Managers are just paper-pushers and wouldn't know how to be a call rep if their life depended on it. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
Have you experienced a lot of flack about the new rules regarding verifying accounts?
Are you all checking IDs? I get yelled at about 5 times a day, by someone who isn't an authorized user and/or doesn't have ID. I even had a customer sent to us from another store, and she was told by them (now keep in mind this is what I am being told by the customer) that the customer didn't need her mother (who was the account holder with no authorized users) to do an upgrade. I am sick of getting yelled at for following policy. And I wanted to know what you all thought of these new procedures. Also I wanted to hear if you all are getting yelled at like me! |
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Originally Posted by Lambert
I'm assuming this ID checking this varies by market? I have not heard of this yet.
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Originally Posted by lowoncash
it shouldnt vary, its an fcc regulation. it really applies to everyone..
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Originally Posted by lowoncash
it shouldnt vary, its an fcc regulation. it really applies to everyone..
question for anyone in customer care...what should a customer ask when he wants to be added to the authorized user list? b/c you are saying that it does not appear as authorized user on your system. |
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Originally Posted by lowoncash
it shouldnt vary, its an fcc regulation. it really applies to everyone..
question for anyone in customer care...what should a customer ask when he wants to be added to the authorized user list? b/c you are saying that it does not appear as authorized user on your system. |
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Originally Posted by Imissmy2160
I have been walking new lines left and right from my own customers of whom I have been dealing with for years. These are all families and they are getting their phones online or over the phone as a result of this. To date, I have kept track, a loss 11 lines due to this policy. And lost an entire account all together who cancelled service (4 line family plan ) due to the fact that the other members on the account cannot access the account with the ease that was done before. This FCC policy is not bad though - when you look at it in the eyes of the average consumer, at least in my opinion. But the company is gonna have to set realistic goals and work with reps / management when it comes to sales goals when you can't even look up an account due to the fact you do not have the end user present.
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Originally Posted by cingman66
My beef with this whole situation is that CS doesn't play by the same rules. They don't have to verify an ID because they can't physically SEE the ID anyway. As for customers yelling...we never encounter that.
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Originally Posted by crazyfishinut
The problem that I see with this whole situation is the FCC. This "rule" is not law, although it is been treated like it is. There are possible fines involved if companies are not incompliance with this "rule." Isn't it up to Congress to pass federal laws, not just some agency of federal government to impose its will on everyone. While I do see some of the possible benefits from this rule, I dont agree with its authority.
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Originally Posted by lowoncash
i get yelled at least 3 times a day by customers for this very reason. what i hate is when they call customer care and cc says that they dont put people on the authorized users list. they say that all they need to do is verify the name and last four of the ssn. My assistant manager got into an argument with a customer care manager b/c the cc manager refused to put someone on the list. we finnally had to email him a copy of the policy.
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Originally Posted by SoCal91302
I had to direct the woman to customer service since she was not on the account as an authorized user. The CS rep told her that she could have access to the account in store with the last 4 of the SSN. I asked if she could hand the representative over to me when she finishes. She was not aware of any changes to the way retail representatives allow access to accounts (the was about two weeks into the new requirements). I explained the FCC guidelines to her so she, and her coworkers, would be in the know. Once again, a communication company that specializes in miscommunication.
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Originally Posted by classylady78
This is what gets me the most. By now, CS should all have been told about this. It makes us look like we don't want to help the customer and we are just following guidelines. I have actually have CS reps argue with me and get beligerent over this. It boggles my mind. One rep who was basically yelling at me telling me I was an idiot, I asked for his email, so I can email him the policy. He gave me the wrong email.
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Originally Posted by classylady78
This is what gets me the most. By now, CS should all have been told about this. It makes us look like we don't want to help the customer and we are just following guidelines. I have actually have CS reps argue with me and get beligerent over this. It boggles my mind. One rep who was basically yelling at me telling me I was an idiot, I asked for his email, so I can email him the policy. He gave me the wrong email.
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Originally Posted by cingman66
Why don't we just have customers go home and call us...that way we can use CS's rules for verifying an account, which apparently are very lax. Then have the customer come in to pick up the phone.
Or we can just ignore the new policies... Just a suggestion. ; ) |
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Originally Posted by holaDude
This was reviewed with us by our managers about 1-2 months ago. So there shouldn't be any issue here. Sorry to say that you did have an issue and the CS rep did not review CSP and follow procedures.
To add a customer as an ARU is no different than adding someone as an authorized user when we were able to add them on. Just click on tab 2 in telegence and click authorized user, and then you would add the name there. You can request CS to call the account holder, which i will offer to do, and then they can advise the account holder and add the person on should they want to. I will tell you this, 90% of the time the account holder will refuse to add them as an ARU and will call the person that went into the store as they don't want anyone to upgrade the account except them. While CS does have a few different rules, only the account holder is allowed to add a new line to the account over the phone. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
We aren't supposed to verify over the phone.
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Originally Posted by classylady78
Because we can look at IDs in the store. You cannot look at an ID over the phone. I am not sure if it is "official" policy, but at my store we do not give out any info over the phone. I think it is so we don't have to worry about someone doing something wrong. Like someone lying about who they are to get info. So basically it is cover your @ss. We are more accountable in the store than CS is. It is stupid to a point, but I don't make the FCC rules.
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Originally Posted by removed
I hope you guys don't mind some input from a customer who has had issues with this new policy. Back in December, I had CS move my number from my name to my employer's account since one of the perks with my employer is that they will add my phone to their AT&T account and pay for it.
We hit a snag over the phone that required me to go to a retail store and pick up a new SIM card. The lady I spoke with in the Maitland, FL store looked up my phone number, saw the different name, and refused to have anything to do with me after she noticed the difference. I tried to explain that ownership of the number was changed no more than 10 minutes before, and I even gave her the name and direct phone number of the CS supervisor we'd been dealing with throughout the night, but she got even more rude and unreasonable as I tried to plead my case; eventually telling me to "just leave". I'm not posting this to complain or anything like that. I just hope you guys can see that sometimes the customer isn't just trying to pull a fast one on the company. ![]() Side note: I eventually took care of this by going to a different store, and talking to a nice rep who was more than happy to verify my account and talk to the CS supervisor we were dealing with earlier. She stayed at the store with me well past closing time, making sure that we got my account activated and the number ported over just in time for the holidays. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
If the daughter is listed as an authorized user, depending on the level of authorization (you have to look) she can do an upgrade and add features. If she is listed as information only, all you can do is give info. An authorized user cannot add a line or cancel service.
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Originally Posted by cingman66
There are no "levels" of authorization for us to view in PDC I or II, so all we see is authorized user or not.
You guys at COR are really taking this new policy WAYYYY too seriously. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
We have OPUS at the COR stores, and it shows what level of authorization.
So you are ok with an FCC fine? Maybe losing your job? I take it seriously because I am not about to lose my job over it. It is not AT&T's policy. It is an FCC guideline and we have to follow it. The problem with a policy like this, isn't the policy it is the people who don't follow it and make the rest of us look like we just want to give the customer a hard time. |
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Originally Posted by removed
I hope you guys don't mind some input from a customer who has had issues with this new policy. Back in December, I had CS move my number from my name to my employer's account since one of the perks with my employer is that they will add my phone to their AT&T account and pay for it.
We hit a snag over the phone that required me to go to a retail store and pick up a new SIM card. The lady I spoke with in the Maitland, FL store looked up my phone number, saw the different name, and refused to have anything to do with me after she noticed the difference. I tried to explain that ownership of the number was changed no more than 10 minutes before, and I even gave her the name and direct phone number of the CS supervisor we'd been dealing with throughout the night, but she got even more rude and unreasonable as I tried to plead my case; eventually telling me to "just leave". I'm not posting this to complain or anything like that. I just hope you guys can see that sometimes the customer isn't just trying to pull a fast one on the company. ![]() Side note: I eventually took care of this by going to a different store, and talking to a nice rep who was more than happy to verify my account and talk to the CS supervisor we were dealing with earlier. She stayed at the store with me well past closing time, making sure that we got my account activated and the number ported over just in time for the holidays. |
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Originally Posted by classylady78
If the daughter is listed as an authorized user, depending on the level of authorization (you have to look) she can do an upgrade and add features. If she is listed as information only, all you can do is give info. An authorized user cannot add a line or cancel service.
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