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changing from 1.1.1 to 1.1.2, have some questions

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Posted by: dcspride

I found someone who has 1.1.2 and he wants to trade with my phone which has 1.1.1 version. I don't mind trading with him since he's going to give me $100 on top of his phone. However, when I saw his phone, he already had all the program installed. When I ask him about programs, he said he can uninstall it and deleted all for me. But I read it somewhere that even though he deleted all the program, apple can find out if any unauthorized program has been installed on the phone before or not if I bring it in for service later on. Is this true?? and it seem like he already tried to unlock his 1.1.2 and failed to do it.... will this cause any problem for me later on if I need the phone to be serviced by apple?? please let me know guys.



Posted by: BornInBremen

If you restore any iPhone, it's factory-fresh, and Apple can't tell jack.



Posted by: dcspride

I tried to restore it....but installer was still there.. along with couple other programs which he coudln't uninstall it



Posted by: jackrussel32

lmao theres no way u restored it and installer is still threre dude.. and also something here is very fishy , why the JACK did he give u his iphone plus 100$ for ur 1.1.1 iphone lmao, dude check the iphone i think he ripped u off or something or theres something wrong with the iphone, maybe its stolen.. dude its just too good to be true , someone has to be really dumb to give someone 100$ plus a trade for the same phone for no major difference.



Posted by: XFF

The difference (obviously) is that 1.1.1 can be unlocked whereas 1.1.2 OTB cannot. If one person has 1.1.2 OTB and wants to use it on T-Mobile, and another person has 1.1.1 on AT&T, the trade makes perfect sense.



Posted by: XFF

Quote:
Originally Posted by BornInBremen
If you restore any iPhone, it's factory-fresh, and Apple can't tell jack.
Except for the bootloader (which cannot be changed) and the baseband (which cannot be downgraded), so there are certain actions that a restore will not undo. Also, under some circumstances, restoring would not recover a bricked iPhone, which I wouldn't exactly call factory-fresh either. I think your answer was well-intended, but over-simplified.



Posted by: jackrussel32

Quote:
Originally Posted by XFF
The difference (obviously) is that 1.1.1 can be unlocked whereas 1.1.2 OTB cannot. If one person has 1.1.2 OTB and wants to use it on T-Mobile, and another person has 1.1.1 on AT&T, the trade makes perfect sense.


trade makes perfect sense but adding 100$ for the trade is totaly idiotic lmao



Posted by: XFF

Why not? An unlockable handset has a greater utility and hence greater value, so why shouldn't the owner be compensated for it?



Posted by: BornInBremen

Quote:
Originally Posted by XFF
Except for the bootloader (which cannot be changed) and the baseband (which cannot be downgraded), so there are certain actions that a restore will not undo. Also, under some circumstances, restoring would not recover a bricked iPhone, which I wouldn't exactly call factory-fresh either. I think your answer was well-intended, but over-simplified.
Yeah, but Apple doesn't care about those, and the presence of them doesn't mean anything other than the user did an upgrade, which is perfectly fine for warranty purposes. Apple can't tell if it was previously unlocked if the user does a full restore in iTunes.



Posted by: dcspride

thanks for all your help guys... I haven't traded yet...i met up with the guy but we couldn't delete those programs...so I told him we'll do it later and I wanted to check here first.... and he is going back to Venezuela and he wanted to unlock it to use it over there.... and that's why he is willing to pay me $100 as compensation.



Posted by: T_Webb

If you do the restore procedure correctly it will wipe out those programs.





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