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Looking for a SE phone
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Posted by: Shahmatt

I'm looking for a SE phone that have the following features:

1. Wifi
2. Check email and be able to Open attachments.
3. Applications to open and edit MS Office files. (E.g Quick office deluxe)
4. Reasonably fast, with plenty of RAM, and an OS that Does Not Hang

The ability to take photos in a panorama fashion with photo-stitch would be a nice bonus, but not essential.

Can anyone help me out?

Posted by: fyrestrtr

SE P1

1. WiFi

2. 3 MP Camera. Can take great landscape shots (it even has autofocus). You'd need to stitch them together to form a panorama -- not sure of any phone that has this feature.

3. Check and compose emails using the oh-so-wonderful keyboard. Works with just about any email provider you can throw at it. Opening attachments no problems.

4. Not had the OS hang yet (have been using the phone for quite some months now). It has the most RAM of any SE phone -- if I'm not mistaken.

5. Size/weight and form factor work great for me.

6. The alert/status light is a great feature; since the phone lacks any other means of visual cue to an event. The previous phone that I had (M600) lacked this and there was no way to know if you had missed a call or a message if the screen was off.

My complaints (in case you think I'm just some fan boy):

1. No freakin' HSDPA; not even EDGE. It does have UMTS though. I really don't understand SE reasoning. My K850 has HSDPA and its not even a business phone. Why SE?!?!

2. WiFi is a/b only, no g -- not really an issue for me, but a lot of phones already have g.

3. Difficult to use with the right hand, since the back button is on the left hand side (personal observation).

4. The lanyard eyelet is really annoying. Would be better if it were on the other side.

5. Excessive wifi usage tends to drain the battery. I use wifi moderately (use the data plan from my provider); and find that I have to charge the phone every other night. However -- since the phone charges via USB (a great thing if you happen to forget your charger) I just keep it plugged into my laptop and charged while at the office.

6. Keys on the M600 were better (larger). These took a bit longer to get used to.

Overall, I would highly recommend this as a email/text device and a business phone.

Hope this helps

Posted by: valerossi

I think your only choice from SE this moment is the P1i.

For PDA OS, personally I'm not a huge fan of the Symbian OS, especially if you use a lot of MS products. MS Windows Mobile 6.0 is a much better phone OS imo. Actually, many of my friends used both Symbian and WM5/6, in the end they all dumped Symbian. Also, WM6 has much better support.

SE makes some great phones, but they do not make the best PDA phones. For PDA phones, you should take a look at HTC or Dopod or O2. For something new and small and not too expensive, you should take a look at the new HTC Touch Dual. I saw it in person, it quite nice, and the performance is very good, it has a 400 MHz cpu.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_dual-2127.php

If you definitely want SE, then here is a review for the P1i:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p1-review-143.php

Posted by: Shahmatt

Thanks. Yes the P1i is a good option. The W960i also seems interesting. I'll be looking into both.

I actually prefer Symbian to WM actually. My current Nokia E51 is rock stable using the S60 FP1, and incredibly fast. And there is plenty of online literature available in case you want to troubleshoot. My older WM5 phone was more prone to hanging. Lack of RAM was a big factor though. But I've heard that WM6 is much more stable and improved over WM5. So perhaps this levels the playing field a bit.

The HTC touch dual is a good phone, but no wi-fi. That's a pity....

Posted by: ThorBlaze Dragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by valerossi

I think your only choice from SE this moment is the P1i.

For PDA OS, personally I'm not a huge fan of the Symbian OS, especially if you use a lot of MS products. MS Windows Mobile 6.0 is a much better phone OS imo. Actually, many of my friends used both Symbian and WM5/6, in the end they all dumped Symbian. Also, WM6 has much better support.

SE makes some great phones, but they do not make the best PDA phones. For PDA phones, you should take a look at HTC or Dopod or O2. For something new and small and not too expensive, you should take a look at the new HTC Touch Dual. I saw it in person, it quite nice, and the performance is very good, it has a 400 MHz cpu.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_dual-2127.php

If you definitely want SE, then here is a review for the P1i:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_p1-review-143.php

if you want a decent WM6 phone, think about TyTN II (aka Tilt or Wing II)
I wouldn't go for WM phone because I have non-phone pocket pc already, and settle with S60 (N73) as modem

Posted by: ThorBlaze Dragon

Quote:

Originally Posted by fyrestrtr

1. No freakin' HSDPA; not even EDGE. It does have UMTS though. I really don't understand SE reasoning. My K850 has HSDPA and its not even a business phone. Why SE?!?!

because of that stupid chip!!!
and it's still used with many models (including K800i, K810i, W880, W960i)
no 850, no EDGE
hope SE will use new chip, that:
accepts hybrid hex-band, global 2G and 3G support
EDGE, HSPA
one band standard for all markets, it's not too much to ask

Posted by: fyrestrtr

I'm not sure what is the hold up with SE. Nokia has many phones that support:

HSDPA / GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
EDGE
HSDPA
WiFi

So clearly its possible; and not some 'mystery chip' is holding up the show. Sometimes I wonder what is going through the minds that make these decisions. A business phone that doesn't support HSDPA? A business messaging phone that doesn't support HSDPA?? Defies logic.

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Posted by: valerossi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shahmatt

Thanks. Yes the P1i is a good option. The W960i also seems interesting. I'll be looking into both.

I actually prefer Symbian to WM actually. My current Nokia E51 is rock stable using the S60 FP1, and incredibly fast. And there is plenty of online literature available in case you want to troubleshoot. My older WM5 phone was more prone to hanging. Lack of RAM was a big factor though. But I've heard that WM6 is much more stable and improved over WM5. So perhaps this levels the playing field a bit.

The HTC touch dual is a good phone, but no wi-fi. That's a pity....

Yeah WM5 has some problems, but WM6 is a lot better. Also, another reason why some WM phones hang all the time is because they barely have enough ram, just good enough to run the OS alone, and when you start installing stuff on it, it doesn't have enough memory to be stable.

Interesting, I just notice the Dual doesn't have WiFi, that's odd, cause the old Dual has WiFi. Maybe you want to take a look at the Touch Cruise, it's really nice, this one has WiFi and HSDAP 3.6 Mbps.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_cruise-2174.php
http://www.htctouch.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Dragan 418

if you want a decent WM6 phone, think about TyTN II (aka Tilt or Wing II)
I wouldn't go for WM phone because I have non-phone pocket pc already, and settle with S60 (N73) as modem

HTC TyTN II is good performance, but the phone is huge due to the slide keyboard. The new Dual Cruise has everything the TyTn II has, just without the keyboard, but a lot thinner. Both are from the same manufacturer anyway, so depends if you want the keyboard or not.