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Unlock 904sh! 910sh? 920sh some... wee! New thread better imo =)

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Posted by: Yttrasil

Posted in another thread first but when i realized it was very real and also maybe everyone don't read all threads in the Sharp forums as i do so I think it's better with its own thread.

There seems to be a solution for 904sh for 3g cards etc here WOHOOO, going for like 300$ but man is it worth it if it works
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...d.php?t=1418429
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...=1826488&page=3
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...d.php?t=1828135

That is what is said by some other people around the boards anyways about 3G cards, if REAL lucky it might also work for the 920sh etc... but who knows... I'll stay put for another day or two and see how it looks anyhow.

Edit: Or maybe not since Kevs post, but still there must be something to it since it seems to work with 3g cards which are not V1 gsm cards, and if so I'll do whatever it takes to get it to work =)

Edit2: So seems as if it needs you to cut your own card but who cares, if you fail you can always get a new one from your provider anyways!

920sh seems only to work with sms and calls, really interested how it is with the 910sh just love that design!

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Posted by: yangj08

Do any of the media functions work on the 920SH? Didn't someone mention that the forced reprovision prompt was the biggest obstacle to unlocking that phone?



Posted by: Yttrasil

Well from what I could make out that's what doesn't work, all the features you want for the 920sh to work which makes it the most desirable phone ever. Only works for smsing and calling, sadly =/



Posted by: yangj08

geez... kind of sucks. At least it works on the 905SH and the 705P. Will it work on other models?



Posted by: Akira87

just make the 904sh work and im good



Posted by: electric

The hypersim card works on the 920sh, but can only make & receive phone calls, send & receive sms only! Rest of the functions including the camera cannot be use at all!!! Very crippled.



Posted by: Akira87

Quote:
Originally Posted by electric
The hypersim card works on the 920sh, but can only make & receive phone calls, send & receive sms only! Rest of the functions including the camera cannot be use at all!!! Very crippled.


might as well get the 904sh, only thing ull appreciate is the vga screen on the 920sh

anybody tried the hypercard on any DoCoMo phones?



Posted by: electric

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira87
might as well get the 904sh, only thing ull appreciate is the vga screen on the 920sh

anybody tried the hypercard on any DoCoMo phones?


904sh is quite old, but still an excellent phone when compared to those so called mainstream phones (e.g. Nxxia, Motxxxla, etc).



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Someone linked this.... fianlly.... it's been around on Hardwarezone for a few days now.... So good that there seems to be a solution...

and OUCH.... my wallet... just spent money on a 911T ...XD



Posted by: riel

Will any of these Softbanks be able to be used in Canada?

I've been inactive for awhile and if people finally figured a way, I wanna know!



Posted by: yangj08

OK- new SIM hack "unlocked" the following phones-
904SH
920SH
705Px
(810P, 910T, etc?)



Posted by: riel

So those phones can be used with the Rogers network in Canada?



Posted by: Akira87

cant wait for pics



Posted by: donelly

what's the legality status of unlocking phones in Japan? I remember an article about a shop owner in Tokyo being arrested for unlocking Vodafone devices. Lately, I've come across many auction listings on Yahoo Auctions Japan which offer unlocking service for a small fee for the usual suspects (801sh, 802sh, 902sh, 903sh etc).

Also what's the price one should expect to pay for a hyper/pss sim card? Looking at a Taiwanese auction site, I wasn't sure if the currency was given in Chinese Yuan or Taiwanese Dollar.



Posted by: pchan0

So it means I can use a 920SH in Canada? I don't mind using it just for make/receive calls, I buy the phone for looks anyway.

What exactly do we have to do to get it to work? Sorry, newbie here.



Posted by: riel

Quote:
Originally Posted by pchan0
So it means I can use a 920SH in Canada? I don't mind using it just for make/receive calls, I buy the phone for looks anyway.

What exactly do we have to do to get it to work? Sorry, newbie here.



Same here. I will be damn happy just to use one of em for making calls only.



Posted by: Kevbodian

As said before, it looks like all data apps will not work... and on the 920sh it looks like the camera wont work either.



Posted by: jeebjp

On the phones 905SH and after, camera and almost all functionality - video, songs etc. will not work even through the file browser. Calendar etc. will work as well as watching pictures. Also a karaoke song that came with the phone works (loading the app via the appli menu doesn't work, though).

But now I was thinking - the reprovisioning system, it has been in at least the 903SH, which is possible to "open" software-wise. But the reprovision system was never hacked "properly", so that you could easily make it go away from the Japanese firmware. Yes, you can first flash to European and set some settings and then flash to Japanese, thus obtaining a repro-less Japanese firmware on that particular SIM card. But it was never "hacked" so that Sharp would've wanted to change it in particular (all in theory, but still).

Therefore, I think that currently, without any hope about access to the flash, the issue at hand is that to explore the reprovisioning system on the 903SH and to try to apply that to other phones via SMS or something (either via the flash dumps or via capturing the messages). Why do I think this is possible is because I have once, quite a while ago, tried to order operator settings from SEMC to my 903SH (don't ask me why orz). It didn't work as of installing the settings, but it did bring up the reprovisioning dialog with a nice status bar, which it did to the end. Therefore, I see that since the Sharp phones are based on the SEMC platform, it could be possible to send a reprovision "message" to a 920SH / any other phone in order to "unlock" it. The question just remains, what kind of message is needed? And how do you make it so that it counts as a reprovision for the phone, instead of just some weird settings coming to the phone (or the thing having no effect for the phone at all).

Just my 20 yen in these thoughts.



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Pics of the 705SH.... sim card requires cutting for the hypercard.

http://3siu.com/viewthread.php?tid=5122&extra=page%3D1



Posted by: Ultraman666

Quite interesting lets hope they finally figure out how to use the additional services on the phone too, damn where did I put my 904sh now I have to go and dig for it



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultraman666
Quite interesting lets hope they finally figure out how to use the additional services on the phone too, damn where did I put my 904sh now I have to go and dig for it

Be prepared to fork out a fair amount of money for the hypersim though - it's far from cheap, especially when demand is high. This is why I get the feeling there will be supply problems.



Posted by: koh-kun

Man, I wanna use my 904...
You can use the cameras and the video functions right? I'd find out through the link but I get a 404 error.



Posted by: penpower

FYI, http://store.pchome.com.tw/pirates/M01354437.htm

It is about $120+ usd shipped. The price is too high for now, expect clone comes out soon in one or two months with enhanced stabilities. However, KennyLi of ima-mobile said the card will stop working after short period of time and you can't receive calls (not verified by me). Even one poster said the same thing in iphone4.tw(seller) blog comment section questioning why the seller didn't state those issues on its product page.

Basically, pss sim or hyper card are copycat of turbosim with softbank/vodafone information in.



Posted by: orphanboy

nice nice

in for updates

by the way, 20 yen = 20 cents



Posted by: penpower

Quote:
Originally Posted by orphanboy
nice nice

in for updates

by the way, 20 yen = 20 cents


It is new taiwanese dollar and it is not yen, if you were referring to the price i posted. So 1 usd = 32.44-32.49 ntd. You wish it is yen



Posted by: alan2000

cross my fingers that they will try to implement one for NTT DoCoMo.
NTT DoCoMo has much nicer phones in my opinion.



Posted by: orphanboy

Quote:
Originally Posted by alan2000
cross my fingers that they will try to implement one for NTT DoCoMo.
NTT DoCoMo has much nicer phones in my opinion.


they just have more phones, period



Posted by: Ultraman666

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglizt1210
Be prepared to fork out a fair amount of money for the hypersim though - it's far from cheap, especially when demand is high. This is why I get the feeling there will be supply problems.


Agreed will wait it out a bit hell I have waited this long, lets hope the 904sh will have most if not all the functions available



Posted by: johnmoon

Finally its time for me to get some sharps!
(I did not buy 904sh) will be getting a few 920sh's within next two weeks
hope I can use it in here canada by the time I get them



Posted by: DSFX

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmoon
Finally its time for me to get some sharps!
(I did not buy 904sh) will be getting a few 920sh's within next two weeks
hope I can use it in here canada by the time I get them


haven't actually make a post in a while...but hmm...you sure you want to get a device that you can't even access the main menu?..a real phone that does nothing else than calls and text messages?

I mean I'd rather just get a 880sh from Europe if you're using it in Canada...at least it's saving you time converting .mp3 to .m4a and can take some pictures(880sh or other European Sharps do play MP3s). Some folks are selling them for a pretty decent price on eBay if you know where to look for, unlocked.



Posted by: Akira87

Quote:
Originally Posted by DSFX
haven't actually make a post in a while...but hmm...you sure you want to get a device that you can't even access the main menu?..a real phone that does nothing else than calls and text messages?

I mean I'd rather just get a 880sh from Europe if you're using it in Canada...at least it's saving you time converting .mp3 to .m4a and can take some pictures(880sh or other European Sharps do play MP3s). Some folks are selling them for a pretty decent price on eBay if you know where to look for, unlocked.


yeah its nice until you see D807



Posted by: DSFX

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira87
yeah its nice until you see D807

Looks awful lot the same, yeah, I know.
But at least you can tell others yours is a Sharp not a Samsung (Sorry don't like Samsungs ) The Screen would tell the difference



Posted by: KBoardBox

For that price I'd rather get something else. The 904 would be awesome though!



Posted by: inthatcase

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...=1830857&page=5

Interesting... I haven't followed the iPhone turbosim methods very closely, but I wonder if they had the same type of SIM-specific problems. The thread shows a Singapore user who is now using his 904SH sans GPRS/MMS, but no cases of success yet in North America as far as I know.

If anybody knows any local (or canadian-wide) sellers of the Softbank/Vodafone specific programmed cards, do let us know.



Posted by: johnmoon

so whats the reasonable price for 904 sh then?
can get it 230CAD for new but not sure its really worth it



Posted by: Reevsaj

So, will this work with any locked phone? or is it phones that are locked to a specific carrier? Also, for phones that check for the right sim card once things are accesed, will it be able to trick that?



Posted by: yangj08

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reevsaj
So, will this work with any locked phone? or is it phones that are locked to a specific carrier? Also, for phones that check for the right sim card once things are accesed, will it be able to trick that?

Only for Softbank-locked phones.



Posted by: koh-kun

So what exactly is the solution? The link got 404ed too soon for me to see. Is it like the other SIM solution we had months ago or something totally new? Also, where do I find it? I'm dying to put my 904 to good use lol – although it makes a very pretty and hi-tech dust collecting device.



Posted by: Akira87

has anybody tried such on a 815sh?, im gnna pick one up from yahoo auctions jp



Posted by: Reevsaj

Quote:
Originally Posted by yangj08
Only for Softbank-locked phones.

Ok, so I could go and buy a 912sh from the local Mitsuwa market place, and then use the turbo sim?



Posted by: koh-kun

Can someone tell me how this thing works?
Is it like that cloning thing or whatever that was around a while ago or something completely new? Is it hard to do on your own?

Also, where can I get my hands on these supposed solutions? I wanna blow the dust off of my 904 asap lol



Posted by: donelly

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reevsaj
Ok, so I could go and buy a 912sh from the local Mitsuwa market place, and then use the turbo sim?


Well the 912sh wouldn't be able to roam in North America since it doesn't have GSM bands. I think so far the only phones that have been tested and confirmed working with hyper sim are 904sh, 705px, and a crippled 920sh.



Posted by: Reevsaj

Quote:
Originally Posted by donelly
Well the 912sh wouldn't be able to roam in North America since it doesn't have GSM bands. I think so far the only phones that have been tested and confirmed working with hyper sim are 904sh, 705px, and a crippled 920sh.

ok, i thought the 912sh did have gsm, oh well guess not xD



Posted by: Akira87

815sh has gsm, itll prob end up like the 920sh crippled features, but i dnt mind, im jst after the nice external screen



Posted by: yangj08

(a bit of a tangent but I think it's related)
I'm in Hong Kong and tried looking for a 904SH + PSS SIM. Man, it's expensive- the only shop I found with it charged $3700 for phone+SIM.

Something funny I noticed was that the same shop sold the 816SH+PSS SIM for $4700. The same phone (pretty much) sells for $800 less officially from Smartone-Vodafone, and it isn't crippled.



Posted by: koh-kun

Ok did some googling and I understand now.
Sorry about the noob-ness.

Though, I still don't know if it matters whether the 904 is Voda or SB...
Can anyone help me?



Posted by: R-ED

wow, they're selling unlocked 911T, 912sh on ebay. sigh, wish the US had 2100mhz freq (3g) network



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Yangj's prices are in HK Dollars folks, don't forget.

Quite expensive.... the prices are all inflated atm.

Can you find out how much just the PSS-Sim is, yangj?



Posted by: cheeseus

I found someone selling this PSS SIM for $80 plus postage. Seems a reasonable price to me, but do we know that it works for sure? Can anybody demonstrate? Has anyone bought this yet and got their 904 going?
Mine has never showed anything but OUT in the top part of the display. I bought it 6 months ago. There is a sheet with roaming prices and operators included in the box that says MTEL in Bulgaria should work (which is what I am using) but the phone never seemed to be able to connect to any network. 3G is still in its early age here and coverage is not very strong, but my operator works with (is part of) Vodafone UK.
Does anybody know anything else about the 904 which could be useful when wanting to "unlock" it using this PSS SIM. Thanks everyone for your posts! I too am eagerly looking forward to using mine for more than a camera and player/games.



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Your 904SH (please call it 904SH and not just "904" as there is a 904T model as well) has nothing to do with Vodafone UK.... being able to roam also has nothing to do with you - this is for customers using a Vodafone Japan/Softbank Mobile USIM.

As for the PSS Sim, yes it does work. It's been tested by a few people in Singapore (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...d.php?t=1830857)

You should go ahead and buy one. If you find that your SIM card does not work, you *may* need a different SIM card, because some SIM cards have wide contacts short-circuiting the PSS-Sim's contacts.



Posted by: Maikurukun

Does anyone know if there is anyone in Toronto that is doing this yet?
Either the hypersim unlock of the pss-sim unlock.



Posted by: cheeseus

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglizt1210
Your 904SH (please call it 904SH and not just "904" as there is a 904T model as well) has nothing to do with Vodafone UK.... being able to roam also has nothing to do with you - this is for customers using a Vodafone Japan/Softbank Mobile USIM.

As for the PSS Sim, yes it does work. It's been tested by a few people in Singapore (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/s...d.php?t=1830857)

You should go ahead and buy one. If you find that your SIM card does not work, you *may* need a different SIM card, because some SIM cards have wide contacts short-circuiting the PSS-Sim's contacts.


Sorry, I didn't understand the "wide contacts short-circuiting the PSS-Sim's contacts" part. Otherwise, yes, of course it's a 904sh.
I have a Vodafone Jp USIM - otherwise I wouldn't be able to start the phone. I mean, even with it, the phone is OUT (of reach).
The SIM I have from my operator is a simple one, I think a 32-bit. They also offer 64-bit - I have no idea if this is relevant to the "unlock" solution.
Do you know of detailed instructions on how to make this thing work?



Posted by: raiden_t

Does anybody know how much I should expect to pay for a PSS sim? and are there fake versions out there? Is it the same one that is used for unlocking the iphone?



Posted by: n3t108

I just bought Bladox turbosim and will report back after using with my 904sh...

I think this is what I need to extract IMSI from the original USIM
http://www.iphonealley.com/forums/s...830&postcount=3

wish me luck...



Posted by: koh-kun

Good luck!



Posted by: yangj08

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglizt1210
Yangj's prices are in HK Dollars folks, don't forget.

Quite expensive.... the prices are all inflated atm.

Can you find out how much just the PSS-Sim is, yangj?

That shop wouldn't sell me just the PSS-SIM (2nd floor of Sin Tat). Dunno why, but it was either PSS-SIM+phone or nothing (I do wonder if he managed to sell any of his 816SHs, though).

There are "clone" PSS-SIMs out there from what I can tell by going around the Chinese message boards; they're less reliable and you can tell them apart by the size of the area you have to cut out from your SIM to make it fit. You'll have to cut out a large, rectangular area to make a real PSS-SIM fit whereas on a clone you'd only have to cut out a smaller square-ish bit.



Posted by: johnmoon

3700 HK is too high... damn
that was the best price you could find or just from few stores?
I will be getting five 904sh's there but at that price... Im not too sure



Posted by: mcg

Hmm, is this a fake? Apparently the 904SH has been recently unlocked.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/SoftBank-904SH-B...1QQcmdZViewItem

Check this out. What are your opinions?



Posted by: aw614

probably comes with hypersim/pss I bet



Posted by: Akira87

idk, those folks over in HK and the mainland have a lot of stuff going on >.<



Posted by: AL9999

The man has 8 feedback and has changed his user ID recently. Wouldn't trust him with anything.



Posted by: yangj08

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmoon
3700 HK is too high... damn
that was the best price you could find or just from few stores?
I will be getting five 904sh's there but at that price... Im not too sure

It was the only store I could find in that area of HK (Mong Kok) with the 904SH in stock. I know there are plenty to go around on the mainland for much cheaper (about 1200RMB apiece) but I haven't found a place on the mainland to get the PSS-SIM.



Posted by: johnmoon

Anybody welling white 904sh? theres only one seller on ebay
"Japanfone" and selling black only (anybody bought a 904sh from him before?)



Posted by: penpower

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmoon
Anybody welling white 904sh? theres only one seller on ebay
"Japanfone" and selling black only (anybody bought a 904sh from him before?)


Yes, I did. It came in fast and it was brand new.



Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:
Originally Posted by penpower
Yes, I did. It came in fast and it was brand new.


Thanks for your reference, just bought two black ones from him
hopefully it gets here by this friday or next monday



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
The man has 8 feedback and has changed his user ID recently. Wouldn't trust him with anything.

I bought a 911T off that seller. Make SURE you ask him to mark down customs to something lower and also mark as gift. The seller is new and I ended up paying customs (a lot) on it. I spoke to him about it, and he did admit he was new.



Posted by: alan2000

PSS SIM Mark 3.5 (newest version) from the orginal TW manufacturer is
3900NT or $120 USD each.

But volume purchase is cheaper.
if you purchase 10 at a time it will become 3500NT
some ppl claim to get it as low as 3000NT by volume purchase.



Posted by: mcg

And this PSS-SIM is for unlocking Sharp 90x mobiles with GSM support? Or is this just for the 904SH?



Posted by: aw614

makes me wish I kept my 2006 locked, I rather use it on japanese fw than euro...



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by aw614
makes me wish I kept my 2006 locked, I rather use it on japanese fw than euro...


check ur pm



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
Does anyone know if there is anyone in Toronto that is doing this yet?
Either the hypersim unlock of the pss-sim unlock.


Not yet but I am sure they are working on it. Remember, its not an unlock, though.

As soon as someone mass-produces them, they will be all over ebay like the iphone ones.



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira87
might as well get the 904sh, only thing ull appreciate is the vga screen on the 920sh

anybody tried the hypercard on any DoCoMo phones?


904sh has VGA screen



Posted by: Maikurukun

... what a spot of luck.
i picked up a 705SH off the ground in a Toronto park in Mint condition. and now its unlocked.
someone say god of luck.

(and i have a Sharp Charger from my 903SH.. which works. awesome)



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
... what a spot of luck.
i picked up a 705SH off the ground in a Toronto park in Mint condition. and now its unlocked.
someone say god of luck.

(and i have a Sharp Charger from my 903SH.. which works. awesome)


hehe, nice.



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
The man has 8 feedback and has changed his user ID recently. Wouldn't trust him with anything.


junglizt bought a 911t from this guy and left positive feedback. a regular like that leaving posi feedback for this guy... trust levels rising.. hehe

530usd is quite a bit for the phone though.



Posted by: penpower

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=487619

Found this from another forum. It is called the x-sim.



Posted by: Junglizt1210

i wonder if they are the cheap pss-sims going around?

they seem to work, so i have no gripes.



Posted by: rondeltronxcx

http://jphonesimfree.com/hypersim/

can you guys dig into that?



Posted by: raiden_t

Quote:
Originally Posted by penpower
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=487619

Found this from another forum. It is called the x-sim.


Looks just like the PSS Sim maybe they just went to the same people who make the PSS Sim and had X-Sim stamped on it instead.



Posted by: koh-kun

Is it absolutely necessary that I cut my SIM card like the photos? In the video I saw on the link that Penpower gave us, the guy didn't have holes in his card.



Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:
Originally Posted by penpower
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=487619

Found this from another forum. It is called the x-sim.



looks very intersting, I think sooner or later there will be one type which
comes with usb sim reader as whole package so that we can update
the software from their server



Posted by: penpower

Quote:
Originally Posted by koh-kun
Is it absolutely necessary that I cut my SIM card like the photos? In the video I saw on the link that Penpower gave us, the guy didn't have holes in his card.


That is one thing, and this time the x-sim also "unlock" nokia too. That is one step further than just iphone and sharp. Should we expect a multi-brands and multi-network sim in the future?



Posted by: mcg

Hmm, quite an interesting video! Wonder how it'll develop.



Posted by: johnmoon

my two 904sh's are shipped yesterday in Japanese time
cant wait to see them as Ive never tried them yet

got it for pretty nice price, the seller is jacked up the price about 100US now



Posted by: rondeltronxcx

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmoon
my two 904sh's are shipped yesterday in Japanese time
cant wait to see them as Ive never tried them yet

got it for pretty nice price, the seller is jacked up the price about 100US now


from who did you buy them from? i want another one.



Posted by: aw614

i am tempted to buy one, the cheapest ones I've noticed are on craigslist...but probably local deals only grr



Posted by: aw614

btw, another thing, I wont have issues using my already unlocked toshiba 904t with a pss? And repro will come up on them since the phone is being fooled as a having a vodafone japan sim



Posted by: cctw

heyy...i just checked..HK Sharp 920sh with pss sim = $2980
and although its crippled, they say they'll exchange the card for free if a new update comes out that makes camera and media player work.

And they ship overseas!!



Posted by: xumdeo

u need to give them ur SIM and they have to make some alterations to it
the altered card can be used on other phones without a problem, but I have an impression that it will become a bit more fragile i.e. not good for sonyEric SIM slots. there are lots of sim-Mods out there, PSS-SIM being one of them, but not sure if it has been tested on 920SH yet, the one I tried was not using a PSS-SIM, something similar from another "brand", also the camera and music player cannot be used.

just a reminder, the 904SH and 920SH do NOT have english T9

if you want a nice screen with english T9, opt for toshiba 911T/920T, which are unlocked with softwares only, so no need to alter ur SIM. the down side is that these toshiba phones will only work on eurpean WCDMA networks (2.1Ghz), i.e. it will not work in n.america at all (ATT Rogers 950/1900Mhz only). neither do they have 2/2.5G GSM support. (unlike the Sharp ones)



Posted by: n3t108

Just to follow up on my earlier post...

I received my bladox last night and spent about 2 hours installing appleshaft on my iphone (it doesn't seem to work on nokia 6230 and won't boot at all with n94, n73 and w810).

My 904sh still displays USIM-MEP after I insert my turbosim coupled with an unactivated AT&T SIM

I will try again tonight... anyone else here have any luck with bladox turbosim and 904sh?



Posted by: K_Gokiburi

Quote:
Originally Posted by n3t108
My 904sh still displays USIM-MEP after I insert my turbosim coupled with an unactivated AT&T SIM


Do a Master Reset and try again, same problem happened with me. All was fine after the Master Reset...I'm using HyperSIM though..



Posted by: KBoardBox

Try an activated SIM as well?



Posted by: Ultraman666

Ya that was my next suggestion maybe it has to be activated to work worth a try



Posted by: n3t108

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Gokiburi
Do a Master Reset and try again, same problem happened with me. All was fine after the Master Reset...I'm using HyperSIM though..


Sweet! I will give it a shot tonight!

Did you get a menu after boot?

This is what I get with bladox...

-------------------
Please select a menu
USIM <-- this will be Vodafone if I have original USIM in
Unknown
-------------------

Cheers all!



Posted by: aw614

problem with 705p...sim card is stuck in the phone now, since its thick, probably gonna need to use pilars to get it out of phone





Posted by: n3t108

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Gokiburi
Do a Master Reset and try again, same problem happened with me. All was fine after the Master Reset...I'm using HyperSIM though..


I just did a master reset and still get USIM-MEP.



Posted by: K_Gokiburi

Quote:
Originally Posted by n3t108
I just did a master reset and still get USIM-MEP.



Weird...worked for me, is your TurboSIM programmed with the correct Vodafone/Softbank information?



Posted by: n3t108

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Gokiburi
Weird...worked for me, is your TurboSIM programmed with the correct Vodafone/Softbank information?


I think so... I use applesaft to get IMSI and KI?? information from the original USIM.

oh well I guess I'll have to sell my TurboSIM and get PSS SIM.



Posted by: aw614

so the turbosim'ed sim card on your nokia has issues? Do you get a sim card rejection error? the only phone i can use with the pss sim is my 904t, and even then i cant access my contact list,



Posted by: Junglizt1210

I might consider buying it... if you're interested, depending on price.



Posted by: donelly

Quote:
Originally Posted by aw614
problem with 705p...sim card is stuck in the phone now, since its thick, probably gonna need to use pilars to get it out of phone



aw614, is this a 705p or 705px you're using with pss sim?



Posted by: aw614

the regular old 705p



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by aw614
the regular old 705p


how was the install process? hehe i guess you beat me to it!



Posted by: aw614

Easy to get the sim on the pss part, but a pain to get in and out of the 705p


for the 705p...I wouldnt recomend getting one if you have the pss/hypersim, way to tight fitting that I had to take the back part of the phone apart to take the sim out and use a flat head to push the sim out, not easy. I think the 904sh is supposed to be the easiest to unload and reload the sim card.

btw when you get yours, try the sim out on other phones. I am having problems with every phone I've got with reading the sim with pss on it, I need to remove it to use my other phones correctly. execption is 904t with the repro back up and my contacts not showing up from the sim card



Posted by: mcg

Haha whoa, if this is the case, I want my 920SH right away. I see a couple on eBay, blue + gold colour.

So to sum it up, this SIM unlock method only unlocks the calling features, while everything else remains unusable? (ie. camera, SMS, watching videos, et cetera)



Posted by: Akira87

sms works, camera doesnt though there are mainboard hacks in the works. i heard mp3 works but has to be in a specific format.

but so far, sms and calls are working.



Posted by: mcg

I see. Well then, that's good enough I suppose! I'd also prefer video playback to work as the monster screen on the 920SH will definitely catch some attention (esp. in horizontal mode!)



Posted by: xumdeo

that's correct, the camera, video player and music player would not work on the 920SH after "unlocking"

SMS will work



Posted by: yangj08

Out of curiosity, has anyone figured out how to make GPRS work on the Sharp 904SH?



Posted by: martindesu

Not that I know of - can't be done.



Posted by: K_Gokiburi

There's no way to even edit GPRS settings settings have to be obtained through a reprovisioning update



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_Gokiburi
There's no way to even edit GPRS settings settings have to be obtained through a reprovisioning update...


... which you ain't ever going to get outside of Japan!



Posted by: yangj08

I was just wondering because I've just asked around Shanghai about the 904SH out of curiosity and a few shops have said that they've opened up a GPRS settings menu on it (and they're charging 2500RMB for phone+PSS SIM- quite a bit less than what i found it in HK for). Silly me, being naive and overly optimistic again, I guess.

Oh well, I got another Toshiba.



Posted by: aw614

hmm, my 705p has the settings already in for softbank and it has room for allowing me to add new gprs settings, however I have it disabled in my account so I cannot try data on my 705p



Posted by: jeebjp

Well, the reprovisioning system as far as I know uses the SEMC- style open standard for provisioning of mobile phones via SMS. So in a way if the phone will take a reprovisioning not ordered by the phone and accept the settings it'll become "unlocked" completely. Another thing of course is - what kind of settings will it accept. One way is to test various ways and another one is to try and capture the SMS traffic.

Technical documents about the provisioning system:
Developers' Guidelines - Client provisioning
The OMA page - OMA Client Provisioning V1.1
Some other technical documents

The technical documents include some examples but I don't think I can send raw SMSs from my phone at the moment.

Edit: "unlocked" meaning some settings becoming usable.



Posted by: Maikurukun

This might sound wierd, but Fido once did re-provisioning for my 903Sh...
it was really wierd... and i had no idea what it actually do. cus it downloaded 4 files from the fido network.



Posted by: mcg

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
This might sound wierd, but Fido once did re-provisioning for my 903Sh...
it was really wierd... and i had no idea what it actually do. cus it downloaded 4 files from the fido network.


903SH coming to Fido!!



Posted by: martindesu

well, network settings can be sent to many phones when they are turned on - so calm down



Posted by: aw614

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
This might sound wierd, but Fido once did re-provisioning for my 903Sh...
it was really wierd... and i had no idea what it actually do. cus it downloaded 4 files from the fido network.

did it remove the repro?



Posted by: jeebjp

Maikurukun, I am interested if the settings actually got saved and what firmware you had (as well as did the repro message go away if you were on Japanese firmware).

I had a 903SH with European firmware when I ordered my settings from the S-E. It surely got through it but I have no idea if it saved them or if it got rid of the repro thing, since I was on the European firmware. I guess I'll try again to refresh my crappy memory.



Posted by: mcg

Oh man...

http://cgi.ebay.ca/BRAND-NEW-SOFTBA...1QQcmdZViewItem

That is one hell of a beautiful phone... wish it could be fully unlocked... someday, someday.



Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcg
903SH coming to Fido!!

hahah that'll be hilarious!

And I just bought a gold 920SH. O.o;



Posted by: mcg

I want a silver one. It'll be my first SHARP phone "collectible" haha.

But I can't shell out the funds for this... I would have to sacrifice my N95 and use a crappy phone for this beauty. And if I were to use the 920SH, I'd have to dish out even more $ for the partial SIM unlock hardware!



Posted by: pchan0

Super noob question - In order for it to work in Toronto, Canada under Rogers, I have to buy a Sharp 920SH, that SIM card right? Where would my original SIM card go?

Thanks.



Posted by: yangj08

Quote:
Originally Posted by pchan0
Super noob question - In order for it to work in Toronto, Canada under Rogers, I have to buy a Sharp 920SH, that SIM card right? Where would my original SIM card go?

Thanks.

It goes on top of the new "SIM card".



Posted by: martindesu

I still think getting a 920SH is insane at the moment.



Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:
Originally Posted by pchan0
Super noob question - In order for it to work in Toronto, Canada under Rogers, I have to buy a Sharp 920SH, that SIM card right? Where would my original SIM card go?

Thanks.

"That SIM" isn't a SIM, it's something that piggy-backs on your real SIM card. Apparently tomorrow is when we find out if this method works for Rogers/Fido.

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
I still think getting a 920SH is insane at the moment.

I know, we're insane.



Posted by: mcg

Hmm, why would it be insane? If it works (ie. calling features), I wouldn't mind using it in Toronto



Posted by: martindesu

Maybe I am the insane one, but unless you can use it a little more than just make calls, it's not really much in the way of fun to me.



Posted by: lamplighter

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
Maybe I am the insane one, but unless you can use it a little more than just make calls, it's not really much in the way of fun to me.


I agree, it would be like driving a Ferrari and not being allowed to go beyond 1st gear

LL-



Posted by: martindesu

Or only letting the engine rev. No gears.



Posted by: AL9999

I agree too, if I can't use all the features of a phone, I don't want it. That's why I've stuck with my 903 for more than two years now. Don't want a JDM Sharp that can only make phone calls and send SMS without even T9 input, amongst other missing things like internet and email (not to mention the TV).



Posted by: martindesu

... however... if someone offered me a 904SH for $120CAD, maybe I should get it...

[even though I want a full unlock]



Posted by: AL9999

I'd love to have one just to play with it and learn about it, but I agree, I wouldn't pay a lot for it at all



Posted by: se_fanatic

Does anyone know if the 911T unlocked will work in Canada with rogers? Or will I need to buy the PPS sim as well?



Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:
Originally Posted by se_fanatic
Does anyone know if the 911T unlocked will work in Canada with rogers? Or will I need to buy the PPS sim as well?


911T doesnt have have GSM so NONO For North America phone freaks...
(too bad I want one)



Posted by: se_fanatic

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmoon
911T doesnt have have GSM so NONO For North America phone freaks...
(too bad I want one)


dang, i really wanted one



Posted by: Junglizt1210

911T is W-CDMA only... so North America is a no-no..

However, you DON'T need a PSS-Sim if you are going to get one (and obviously you need to be in a W-CDMA 2100MHz area)



Posted by: Yttrasil

So Europe should be okey right? What about its HSPDA?



Posted by: Akira87

as long as theres 3G coverage



Posted by: se_fanatic

Does anyone know if the 705p or 705px are any good and can i use it in canada? also what are the differences with the p and px? thanks



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by se_fanatic
Does anyone know if the 705p or 705px are any good and can i use it in canada? also what are the differences with the p and px? thanks


Neither of those are SHARP handsets. I advise asking somewhere else...



Posted by: se_fanatic

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
Neither of those are SHARP handsets. I advise asking somewhere else...


sorry, will do thanks.



Posted by: martindesu

no prbs. FYI, I think they are good and should be OK in Canada. Try the Panasonic forum.



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira87
just make the 904sh work and im good

same here, thou it would be great if i can use it on the 910 too



Posted by: Akira87

Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_wing0
same here, thou it would be great if i can use it on the 910 too


jst go with the SO905iCS



Posted by: angel_wing0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira87
jst go with the SO905iCS

sharp > SE, flip > slider, sorry



Posted by: aw614

Quote:
Originally Posted by angel_wing0
sharp > SE, flip > slider, sorry

SE japan models > SE rest of the world models



Posted by: angel_wing0

corrected

Quote:
Originally Posted by aw614
Sharp JPN models > SE japan models > SE rest of the world models




Posted by: Maikurukun

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeebjp
Maikurukun, I am interested if the settings actually got saved and what firmware you had (as well as did the repro message go away if you were on Japanese firmware).

I had a 903SH with European firmware when I ordered my settings from the S-E. It surely got through it but I have no idea if it saved them or if it got rid of the repro thing, since I was on the European firmware. I guess I'll try again to refresh my crappy memory.


Actually I have no idea what it did. lol.. because my 903SH seems to really really dislike Japanese firmware... Phone randomly shuts off during Japanese Firmware...


Infact,.... this firmware is rather weird...
The video camera can't record in 3GP and it has a really wierd white menu.
and in standby the bottom righthand corner isn't vodafone .. it says "iN!"

haha i should of investigated this a long time ago.



Posted by: martindesu

That's not Japanese Firmware. I think that's HK/TW or Hybrid (I can't remember). iN! is neither Japanese or Euro for sure.



Posted by: Junglizt1210

iN logo is HK or Hybrid firmware. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but martindesu has more or less narrowed it down. It definately isn't Taiwanese firmware. (That's the Emome firmware afaik)



Posted by: martindesu

I am willing to bet it's Hybrid. I am pretty sure I had it once. Made me feel ill...



Posted by: aw614

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
Actually I have no idea what it did. lol.. because my 903SH seems to really really dislike Japanese firmware... Phone randomly shuts off during Japanese Firmware...


Infact,.... this firmware is rather weird...
The video camera can't record in 3GP and it has a really wierd white menu.
and in standby the bottom righthand corner isn't vodafone .. it says "iN!"

haha i should of investigated this a long time ago.

I cant record video, and I cant listen or play music, not sure if it was due to having hybrid fw before, but I am using japanese now, and I've used a locked 2006 and now unlocked to euro and they dont have the weird issues I have on my 903sh



Posted by: K_Gokiburi

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
Actually I have no idea what it did. lol.. because my 903SH seems to really really dislike Japanese firmware... Phone randomly shuts off during Japanese Firmware...


Hmmmm...I'm guessing that your 903SH is a CID73 unit right? Coz the Japanese firmware is really buggy on CID73 units.



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
I am willing to bet it's Hybrid. I am pretty sure I had it once. Made me feel ill...

I had it on my 811T... not bad... but didn't like it. Chinese on a phone was nice... but.... I prefer original JDM firmware.



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junglizt1210
I had it on my 811T... not bad... but didn't like it. Chinese on a phone was nice... but.... I prefer original JDM firmware.


I can't read chinese and prefer a Japanese phone to have JDM firware too.



Posted by: Maikurukun

SIgh i traded my perfectly good Jap F/W White 903 for a black 903SH... and later found out i can't change to japanese firmware.... oh well.. whatever.. i'll be using my 705 from now on anyways.



Posted by: mcg

Really drooling over the 920SH... too bad the whole damn package unlocked will probably cost $500+.



Posted by: Maikurukun

lol. 500$ is alot.. for something that can only do.. sms and calling.



Posted by: Yttrasil

But it's still the nicest phone i've ever seen made 920sh is like a dream really. I can pay 500$ for a design phone and being "special" and if I get the best build quality there is out there and that flip screen in the same package it isn't half bad hehe. But still my 904sh is good enough for now, would want it a little slimmer though else than that the time i've been using it in Japan and everywhere, beat my prior 903sh EVERYWHERE and BADLY except maybe design wise The 903sh is what i consider the best phone of an earlier generation of phones the 904sh is in a whole other generation and league i think.

I'm thiiis close to getting the 920sh, might get me one in Japan next time from http://search.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/...cale=0jp&acc=jp alot cheaper than the other auctions outside of japan.



Posted by: yangj08

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maikurukun
lol. 500$ is alot.. for something that can only do.. sms and calling.

Actually, the PDF/Office document reader works without repro also, if you're into e-books and things like that.



Posted by: Akira87

would be kinda silly if that feature even needed repro



Posted by: yangj08

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akira87
would be kinda silly if that feature even needed repro

Well, they locked up everything else worth doing (unlike DoCoMo).



Posted by: cheeseus

Quote:
I'm thiiis close to getting the 920sh, might get me one in Japan next time from http://search.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/...cale=0jp&acc=jp alot cheaper than the other auctions outside of japan.


Hello, I am really interested in getting something from Auctions.yahoo.co.jp. But how does it work? I mean, I am not from Japan, I do not speak Japanese. I saw lots of 904sh there for about 20 euros each. I'd like to buy one or even a couple. Any ideas if this could work for someone from Europe? Thanks!



Posted by: martindesu

you have to have either a japanese bank account or know someone with one.



Posted by: cheeseus

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
you have to have either a japanese bank account or know someone with one.


Good, thanks! But I don't have either. Do you think someone would be able to buy one and ship it? Of course, the biggest issue here, I guess, is about trust? Not that 20 euros plus, say, another 30 maybe for postage are a lot of money, but people are generally suspicious. Well, if anyone thinks they can do that for me, please PM me.



Posted by: martindesu

Well, the thing is, if we all do this, prices go up. There's always a middle man and people don't do anything for free. I have a friend out in Japan that gets me things off yahoo auctions. I don't widely advertise as I will not run a business through him - I only get things I want. However, I might well be able to make an exception.

Buying from Yahoo Japan auctions is fine, but show me which auctions you've been looking at - there's a lot of display model [dummy] phones on there too!



Posted by: takumi906

so true about the dummy models on YAJ



Posted by: Akira87

i almost got a dummy



Posted by: takumi906

i couldnt believe how many they sold lol



Posted by: mcg

lol, how much is a dummy 920SH? Would look great hanging on my backpack.



Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcg
lol, how much is a dummy 920SH? Would look great hanging on my backpack.


can we actually part out jpn dummy phone to replace with orginal phone's housing?
just wondering...



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcg
lol, how much is a dummy 920SH? Would look great hanging on my backpack.


...til you get mugged...



Posted by: mcg

I was just kidding... personally I'm not one to attract unwanted attention, haha!

I'd love to own a real one though. Hopefully in some time to come there will be more advanced bypasses for the 920SH, then I will start to seriously consider purchasing one.



Posted by: AL9999

No you can't, body housings of dummy phones are usually glued to the dummy itself. Sometimes you can trade parts, but usually you can't. It's a hit and miss game.



Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
...til you get mugged...


dude, you just made me laugh for 5 mins

thanks for that



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Quote:
Originally Posted by AL9999
No you can't, body housings of dummy phones are usually glued to the dummy itself. Sometimes you can trade parts, but usually you can't. It's a hit and miss game.

I believe awong614 bought a 903sh dummy and DID manage to find a useful part or two off that phone - but it depends what phone/part you need of course.



Posted by: AL9999

Yeah that's what I remembered, he found some parts he could reuse, but others were glued on.



Posted by: aw614

that was kboardbox who did it with a 902sh dummy



Posted by: KBoardBox

Yup, 'twas I. The dummy is missing some parts now and just chillaxin' on my desk...hahaha



Posted by: markol

so the million dollar question still hasn't been answered yet...
has anyone tried the hypersim+904sh or 920sh in canada on Rogers yet?



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by markol
so the million dollar question still hasn't been answered yet...
has anyone tried the hypersim+904sh or 920sh in canada on Rogers yet?


was answered in the 911t thread in the "Other Manufacturers".

I would say give it a try no matter what. Some people said it doesnt work on Fido, but I know it does.



Posted by: markol

ahh how come i can't find that exact post T.T



Posted by: takumi906

what parts were you able to replace kboardbox?



Posted by: KBoardBox

Some screws (they were Philips-head ones on the dummy; they replaced my stripped-out star-shaped ones that I destroyed with those damned el cheapo Chinese screwdrivers) and the trim on the hinge bit (the bit which the screen rotates on).



Posted by: aw614

I guess I should get a dummy for the trim and screws, those philips make taking apart a lot easier



Posted by: Kevbodian

Quote:
Originally Posted by markol
ahh how come i can't find that exact post T.T


Its a long thread. I have my threads set up to the max per page so even if I told you the page number.....

I would just try it with your sim (order it) and if it doesn't work, you can resell it.



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by aw614
I guess I should get a dummy for the trim and screws, those philips make taking apart a lot easier


I dunno... if you have the right screwdriver, then you're fine

Owning one of those is very elitist anyway!



Posted by: Junglizt1210

Quote:
Originally Posted by KBoardBox
Some screws (they were Philips-head ones on the dummy; they replaced my stripped-out star-shaped ones that I destroyed with those damned el cheapo Chinese screwdrivers) and the trim on the hinge bit (the bit which the screen rotates on).

heh.... philips head screws on a Sharp... that makes for easy servicing in the future

not to mention you can not worry so much about stripping out your screws as quality philips head screwdrivers are more easily found.

i find it helps not to screw in the screws too tighly in general and leave a little bit of give so that there's no gap, yet easy enough to unscrew.



Posted by: KBoardBox

haha I don't have to worry about stripping screws since I got that Baku set, but yeah, every bit of convenience counts.



Posted by: aw614

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
I dunno... if you have the right screwdriver, then you're fine

Owning one of those is very elitist anyway!

i still managed to overtighened with baku...



Posted by: martindesu

you crazy hofo-mofo



Posted by: mcg

I am not sure if I am correct, but taking the 904SH vs. 920SH, they both can only use the call/SMS (GSM) features when unlocked?



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcg
I am not sure if I am correct, but taking the 904SH vs. 920SH, they both can only use the call/SMS (GSM) features when unlocked?


Wrong.

The 904SH camera can also be used. The only thing that isn't able to be used is the GPRS at the moment (I think).

The 920SH is just calls and texts. You can view pictures on it too apparently, but you cannot take photos.



Posted by: mcg

Oh OK, I haven't been following up on the 904SH update status, only the 920SH haha.



Posted by: foo_mark

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
Wrong.

The 904SH camera can also be used. The only thing that isn't able to be used is the GPRS at the moment (I think).

The 920SH is just calls and texts. You can view pictures on it too apparently, but you cannot take photos.


I thought we already have concluded that you could use GPRS, as long as you simply just do reprovisioning of your handset through SonyEricsson's website.



Posted by: martindesu

Quote:
Originally Posted by foo_mark
I thought we already have concluded that you could use GPRS, as long as you simply just do reprovisioning of your handset through SonyEricsson's website.


Hence the (I think). Not everyone can preprovision from there. Glad it seems to be working though.

Either way, 904SH and 920SH are different in terms of access.



Posted by: foo_mark

Quote:
Originally Posted by martindesu
Hence the (I think). Not everyone can preprovision from there. Glad it seems to be working though.

Either way, 904SH and 920SH are different in terms of access.


Well, I certainly hope it works. I don't want to buy the PSS SIM for another phone that I can make phone calls. I already have 12 "other" of those sitting here that can do the same job (don't need another one)... I need one that can transmit data.



Posted by: jeebjp

Just to make it sure:

- I posted stuff about the reprovisioning being available to the European 903SH via usual OTA settings update.
- There was a post somewhere that said that the Japanese one never got it.
- Today tried on the 904SH: K810i doesn't work and you get a nice-looking two-lines-of-code SMS as for V802SE, so it just doesn't see it as reprovisioning. Haven't tried other models.

So at the moment it all points to "no", but in the documents it is written that makers can put in various operator data etc. to the phones via OTA repro, which they can use as limits. So if someone can send the needed messages when needed to the 904SH, it should all get better. Probably >_>





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