:: Should you upgrade to 1.1.3? For the masses ::

Originally Posted by Ishimaru

"Lose a bunch of cool apps". What are you losing? Summerboard partially works on 113, sure Customize doesn't work, but those are the "major" apps that don't seem to work. Everything else works just fine.

Originally Posted by Ishimaru

Read up and you will see since it doesn't touch the baseband, your unlock stays.

Originally Posted by Drakkhen

That's one of the problems - I WANT it to touch the baseband. the 1.1.3 FW package is comprised of 1.1.3 FW + Baseband 4.03, and not 1.1.3 FW + Baseband 4.02 or 4.01 or any other combination. It says '1.1.3' in your settings, but that pretty much it. At best, you're half-way there.

L.

Originally Posted by Kricket

^ im not sure if im carrying this thread off-topic or not - in effect, id like to know whether i "should" upgrade to 1.1.3 - lol

i just want to make sure i dont brick the iphone - from what ive read, 1.1.3 "unbricks" bricked phones - i mean, even if it locks up on me and becomes a 1.1.3 phone as it would be out of the box, thats fine - i have faith that in the coming weeks we'll see a proper jailbreak and ipsf solution...

Originally Posted by Ishimaru

Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying, for what it is, it works. I want a clean version as well, and it will come, but for the time being, I like it. Oh, and I have EDGE working on mine. *shrug*

Originally Posted by Drakkhen

You probably won't brick your phone, but I think you need to ask yourself: What do I want out of 1.1.3? In these two weeks what are you hoping to get from that firmware?

L.

Originally Posted by Drakkhen

Ladies and mostly Gentlmen,

As the most of you will have noticed, the jailbreak from 1.1.3 has been released, and many of us have followed both its documented improvements and features as well as the many hurdles in getting this particular firmware to work with SIM cards other than AT&T.

I guess a lot of you are still sitting patiently waiting for some kind of verdict or 'review' on whether an upgrade to 1.1.3 is warranted. The thing is, for me right now after working on dhendrikson with his phone last night, with goldsaint for a bit this afternoon and finally on one of my own iPhones, the best I can come up with is why bother upgrading?

Yes, 1.1.3 has some awesome really cool new features, but one of them (the Google Maps Locater) doesn't even work with the 'official' solution right now and requires some further hacking. SMS to multiple people, something that I think would be very useful, is probably the only thing that I'd even upgrade for. Personal prefs aside - The Dev Team and Elite Team have ONLY made it possible to install 1.1.3 onto your phone, but it's not in a for where it can be even close to calling it 'elegant'. Yes, it installs, and it uses your old baseband, but the rest of it is a jumbled mess of functionality that is just made that much more complicated by a plethora of after-the-fact fixes an patches that is over-populating our Installer sources.

Everything on there is a '1.1.3 fix' or a '1.1.3 patch'. This is ridiculous. This isn't a jailbreak. This is a 'hack' in its truest sense of the word. Up until now, we've always used iTunes to upgrade to the newest firmware at some point during the process. Our current 1.1.3 jailbreak doesn't even do that an pushes the OS on using iBrickr. It's also asking us to use our previously unlocked basedband to run againt the new hacked firmware. How reliable is this; running a baseband against the wrong firmware. On top of that, there's the whole minicom stuff that requires you to run a bunch of commands everytime you start the phone or change the SIM card JUST to get the phone functionality. I don't think this is how Apple intended this release of the firmware to work. It just seems like we're so eager to go to hell and back just to get our phones to say "1.1.3" in the 'about' section of phone settings. It's not worth it right now.

Perhaps it's my expectation that's been sprung to unrealistic heights, since the past jailbreaks have been, for the lack of a better description, quite awesome. This jailbreak 'works' in the most barbaric sense, but in so many ways it doesn't work at all.

Now I totally appreciate all the work that these Dev and Elite 'Teams' have done. It's actually quite amazing all the progress that only a few people have made. However, with how this current jailbreak looks so far, I urge people to stay away for the time being. There NEEDS to be another solution if the masses are to upgrade.

Anyhow, these are merely my two cents - please feel free to disagree as per usual

Happily and THANKFULLY at 1.1.2,

L.

Originally Posted by Kricket

also - one of my MAIN gripes with the iphone was not being able to send sms to multiple people - having that natively would probably increase its use - lol

Originally Posted by Drakkhen

See, that's the thing with the whole situation - it shouldn't have to matter. I should be able to upgrade from from only 1.1.2 to avoid problems. All I want to do is to be able to upgrade, and then after, plug in my phone and hit some button that says 'JAILBREAK MOFO!!!' - that's about it....

I understand that things are probably not that simple anymore, and that's too bad.

L.

Originally Posted by usrbin

copied from appleiphoneschool forum

jman Says:
January 25th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

there is a fix to the google map finder. all you need to do is install navizon, run it once, and all should be good in the google app.

Originally Posted by dhendriksen

There is supposedly a new jailbreak coming. I like 1.1.3, I got everything working with one exception - my edge settings dont stick. It is not like 1.1.1 where they didn't survive a reboot - these dont even survive pressing the return key.

Thats really my only gripe. If I cant get this fixed in the next couple of hours, I will just go back to 1.1.2. The locate me feature is fun though, so is the SMS to multiple parties. I also really like the webclips, and being able to have multiple pages with just a couple icons on them.

All in all I really like 1.1.3, but edge settings are a must. I am confident that a better solution will be found in the coming days.

Originally Posted by dhendriksen

I can confirm this worked with the locate me app. I deleted the app and everything - still works.

Originally Posted by Drakkhen

Kricket,

I think your situation sort of comes with the territory of owning an iPhone - It applies even moreso if you're not with AT&T. With every new firmware, Apple will need to close some holes and the hackers are going need to find others. As this happens each subsequent jailbreak will differentiate itself with the previous ones by means of method and complexity. The safest place you can be right now is at any firmware where you can use your phone reliably.

What it really comes down to, is whether 1.1.3 (in it's hacked state) improves the user's experience over 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 in a way that is great enough to justify an upgrade. In my opinion, the answer is a resounding no.

L.

Originally Posted by CannibalKidd

It will work, but it wont survive a reboot. If you need to reboot your phone for any reason the "fix" will stop working. So it is best not to uninstall LocateMe or else you'll just have to reinstall it again after every reboot.

Originally Posted by Eternal 28

dhendriksen Does your default ringtones work?

Originally Posted by tigres013

Check out BigBoss repos, he just stated on irc that everything regarding the bugs has a patch. i will try to get the link to enter in sources for you.

Originally Posted by Lestat_d