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Iphone "Clones"..I am confused?
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Posted by: spikefromnyc

Hi;

This subject really bothers me, since I do not own an Iphone, but want the experience of a Touch Screen with those colorful Icons, and then here is the clones from China...

Offering the "Look and Feel" of an Iphone, without the all that "jailbreaking" techniques, ready to use on any network (any GSM/GPS network..whatever that means) and the problem/debate begin....

They (cloners) claim that their phones work on a 850/900/1800/1900 bandwidth, and then you have those that claim that "only" those phones that work on an 850/1800/1900 will work for the U.S. market ...and then to top it off, you have the issue of accessing the Internet on these phones using WAP/GPS (which strangely, no one is talking about--if you watch any of the videos on YouTube)....who is right and who is wrong??!!

Clones "may not" cost as much as the real Iphone, but almost $200 (counting the accessories) for a phone with "no guarantee" it will work (bandwidth or the internet)...is a bit too much for my pockets~!

What is your opinion on these clones? (and please don't tell us to "buy an Iphone"...we're talking about the clones here, okay?!)

Thanks

Posted by: CyniKal.Mindset

they work, most are garbage build quality and the UI are junk, also they only use a standard touch screen that requires a stylus...in the end you would want to buy an iPhone, not a cheap chinese knock off

so in short
850/1900 = works in north america
wap/gprs = works, just set it up with providers username/password etc
touchscreen = clone (standard, stylus needed junk) iPhone (multitouch, capacitive based, no stylus)
cost = 150-250 for a clone + 399 for an iPhone when you realize how crap the clone really is

Posted by: dmblue

why would you even consider wasting your money

Posted by: KoukiFC3S

Just do it right the first time!

Posted by: dsigma6

Don't you effing dare.

Posted by: Phreakish

There is only one device that is not a cheap clone and in SOME ways, better then the iPhone. Its the Meizu M8, however the price being almost as much as the iPhone itself, its not a cheap solution to having an iPhone

Posted by: CL55

Meizu M8 is an vaporware.. Unlike the other clones, Meizu is supposed to be an established company and they have no respect whatsoever to copyright designs. Their CEO even openly lied about Apple copying THEIR M8 design on the iPhone.. riiiiight!

Posted by: MacGeek15

I don't even know why you would even bring this up. it's an insult to the real Apple iPhone.

Posted by: n2dust

...most, if not all of them, use copied versions of Windows Mobile- that alone should be a reason to avoid them.

I see the build quality issue the biggest drawback- when it breaks you're stuck with an item with no American support network. You'd either have to fix it yourself or ship it back to China.

To echo the common theme of most of the posts here, just get the real thing.

Posted by: JFLo714

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

(and please don't tell us to "buy an Iphone"...we're talking about the clones here, okay?!)

that is what everyone is telling you in a round about way...there is no cheaper way to get what you want...if you want to buy junk then go with the clones...but as stated eariler...do it right the first time...dont waste your money on crap with the "possibility" of it not working.....just my 2cents!

Posted by: XFF

Those things reaaly don't even deserve to be called clones, as clones are supposed to be nearly indistonguishable from the original. Instead those knock-offs are nothing like the iPhone, neither in hardware nor software. It's more like a sheep dressed as a wolf -no matter how much you taunt it, you won't get any bite out of it.

Posted by: spikefromnyc

Hmmm...

I really took a gamble, trying to squash the myth that "chat forums" are basically "argument dens", and my challenge was to get a reality check going on here about something that is taking the Global Market by storm....

The majority of you have chosen to "laugh" your way thru a topic that actually does garner some thought, simply because just owning your Apple Iphone does not mean the unit is a "trouble-free, picture perfect" cellphone~!

Everyday, I see people selling their Iphones and even the Tech magazines report ratings of 7-8 on Apple's IPhone performance meter (unit get hot, drop connections; etc) and how can you sit out there and ridicule me for "asking" you too discuss something "far cheaper" and even in the relm of "Quality assessment"...units that you could not be sure...isn't the real thing~!

For you doubting "Product Junkies"...just take a look at some of these fantastic-looking Cloners:

Imobile

Daxxian

ChanaiIfone

Now Guys, are you going to sit here and tell me that your $400 dollar piece of "dedicated" hardware looks far "better", more superior, worthy of praise and admiration...than these cloner "babies"??

Don't let your pride do the talking, because you can now finally admit that some things "foreign" can look just as good...as the original packaging! (maybe surpassing it in minor situations)

Can we start "talking" seriously here from now on or what?

Posted by: XFF

Unless you also post some details about the underlying hardware and software platforms they're still just sheep in wolf's clothes.

Of course if all you want is something that looks like an iPhone, I guess you've found it.

Posted by: Silent Witness

It's easy to mimic the real thing. Owners easily forget all iPhones are made in China.

Posted by: Elfreshcuh

those ***** are soo Fugly

Posted by: spikefromnyc

Silent Witness...

You are quite correct~!

This is the reason why a topic like this is so important, a discussion between "actual" users of the Apple IPhone and those "wishing" to be included in the Iconic-filled world of the IPhone...but because of financial means, unable to fully join the club~!

Even on this website, anyone can see (hear) complaints about IPhone's performances, and the financially-strapped can weigh the prospects of affording something "very simular", yet being able to appreciate the savings in using their "Chinese" IPhones with Pre-Paid plans from the Wireless Mobile contractors...instead of being "stamped" into a 2year contract, and costing nearly the price of a "new" Apple...too void it~! (and they are the ones "crying" for 2008 Apple IPhones to go pre-paid?)

The only problem I am having (well, not just me) with receiving the "Imobile" phone (hurry up, China) is the bandwidth frequency!

Merely buying the Chinese IPhones is not the problem, it is the sellers (majority are American born) that they are not looking out for our interests properly....the Chinese are releasing the phones with: GSM/GPS900/1800/1900 with 850mHz (optional support) and of course, the US/North Americas cannot use this frequency, and the sellers keep instilling the "Quad Bandwidth" gimmick on us newbies, instead of demanding that the Chinese begin configuring the "proper" USA bandwidth of: 850/1800/1900....merely to increase their booming sales~!

What do you guys think~?

Posted by: pryncearif

Dont do it, my firend had one and it was so stupid, its a ghetto version of the iphone, my friends touch screen stopped being responsive, he ended up throwing the phone out and buying an iphone, so make a smart choice and get the iphone, its worth paying for it

Posted by: matthewc1

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

Silent Witness...

You are quite correct~!

This is the reason why a topic like this is so important, a discussion between "actual" users of the Apple IPhone and those "wishing" to be included in the Iconic-filled world of the IPhone...but because of financial means, unable to fully join the club~!

Even on this website, anyone can see (hear) complaints about IPhone's performances, and the financially-strapped can weigh the prospects of affording something "very simular", yet being able to appreciate the savings in using their "Chinese" IPhones with Pre-Paid plans from the Wireless Mobile contractors...instead of being "stamped" into a 2year contract, and costing nearly the price of a "new" Apple...too void it~! (and they are the ones "crying" for 2008 Apple IPhones to go pre-paid?)

The only problem I am having (well, not just me) with receiving the "Imobile" phone (hurry up, China) is the bandwidth frequency!

us bandwith is 850/1900/ is what would be needed to be used in us.

Posted by: Silent Witness

Just remember that u get what u pay for. Be careful. My 13yo bro has the real thing n even $400+ isnt worth it to me. Just downloaded a bunch of animated wallpapers for screensavers. One has my country's flag waving n one with my name gold plated. Got them in the Samsung section here. iPhone cant do screensavers. I hate the lack of personal customizations n versatility that even 5-yr old phones can do. Just wait for future iPhones. Its only the first gen n u end up overpaying for early but flawed editions.

Posted by: deadtorights

There also the Meize M8 suppose to be 3G and do everything as the iphone does but with video camera, 16 gig i think and other stuff.
http://www.meizume.com/

Posted by: This Is Bida

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Originally Posted by Silent Witness

Just remember that u get what u pay for. Be careful. My 13yo bro has the real thing n even $400+ isnt worth it to me. Just downloaded a bunch of animated wallpapers for screensavers. One has my country's flag waving n one with my name gold plated. Got them in the Samsung section here. iPhone cant do screensavers. I hate the lack of personal customizations n versatility that even 5-yr old phones can do. Just wait for future iPhones. Its only the first gen n u end up overpaying for early but flawed editions.

Actually, if you jailbreak your iPhone you can customize it more than damn near any other phone!

As for the original poster:
Im a mature, grown person with a very open mind. As much as I love my iPhone I realize that its just either not for some people, some people cant afford it, or some people are so jealous that all they do is bash it. The same goes for some iPhone owners who think every other phone is worthless!

To get to my point, while I do really understand where youre coming from, I have to agree with the FEW people on here who have stated that, simply... You get what you pay for!!!
As someone already said, if youre looking for something to just LOOK like an iPhone, than feel free to purchase a knock off. While I think thats a little materialistic, Im not judging. But remember, if you want the FULL experience of the iPhone, software wise, youre just not gonna get it. Hell, look at the Voyager with Verizon. So many Verizon customers are feeding into the iPhone frenzy that they had to get the closest thing they could. And while I think its a great phone (I owned one before buying the iPhone) it just DOES NOT come close to the iPhone's software.

Something to take into consideration, since it sounds like you REALLY dont wanna get into contract (whether its personal preference or credit problems) you CAN simply buy an unlocked iPhone. Hell, you can even buy an iPhone and use it on their pay-as-you-go service.

To sum this up, take some advice:
Dont listen to what everyone on an iPhone forum is gonna tell you about buying a knock off iPhone. Not to be rude, but what kind of answers were you expecting? Online forums are all the same, 80% obnoxious fan-boys, 10% people who are just there to learn as much as possible and 10% who are there to learn and help people.
The choice is yours, the knock-offs are out there. But as I said before, and what should be most important is... you do, truely, get what you pay for!

Posted by: JFLo714

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

Hmmm...

Now Guys, are you going to sit here and tell me that your $400 dollar piece of "dedicated" hardware looks far "better", more superior, worthy of praise and admiration...than these cloner "babies"??

Don't let your pride do the talking, because you can now finally admit that some things "foreign" can look just as good...as the original packaging! (maybe surpassing it in minor situations)

Can we start "talking" seriously here from now on or what?

they are pictures....so it wants to "look" the same...now time for the reason i kno most people bought the phone...the functionality....

Posted by: Orangejello727

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

Hmmm...

I really took a gamble, trying to squash the myth that "chat forums" are basically "argument dens", and my challenge was to get a reality check going on here about something that is taking the Global Market by storm....

The majority of you have chosen to "laugh" your way thru a topic that actually does garner some thought, simply because just owning your Apple Iphone does not mean the unit is a "trouble-free, picture perfect" cellphone~!

Everyday, I see people selling their Iphones and even the Tech magazines report ratings of 7-8 on Apple's IPhone performance meter (unit get hot, drop connections; etc) and how can you sit out there and ridicule me for "asking" you too discuss something "far cheaper" and even in the relm of "Quality assessment"...units that you could not be sure...isn't the real thing~!

For you doubting "Product Junkies"...just take a look at some of these fantastic-looking Cloners:

Now Guys, are you going to sit here and tell me that your $400 dollar piece of "dedicated" hardware looks far "better", more superior, worthy of praise and admiration...than these cloner "babies"??

Don't let your pride do the talking, because you can now finally admit that some things "foreign" can look just as good...as the original packaging! (maybe surpassing it in minor situations)

Can we start "talking" seriously here from now on or what?

Any chance on letting us know of a "Perfect" product? Every phone has problems. Every provider and manufacturer has problems. Because its so subjective these problems could be caused by users as well. The point is.. You pay for quality and service.

The same argument can be made about everything other industry!! Why buy Prada when you can buy Zellers Haynes? Why buy a real diamond when u can buy a CZ?? Why buy Sony when you can buy Emerson?

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

Even on this website, anyone can see (hear) complaints about IPhone's performances, and the financially-strapped can weigh the prospects of affording something "very simular", yet being able to appreciate the savings in using their "Chinese" IPhones with Pre-Paid plans from the Wireless Mobile contractors...instead of being "stamped" into a 2year contract, and costing nearly the price of a "new" Apple...too void it~!

This is, I feel, the point where you are absolutely, positively wrong.

If I put an iPhone Skin on a Windows Mobile phone (http://blogs.zdnet.com/Apple/?p=386), does my old HTC K-Jam suddenly become "very simular[sp]" to the iPhone?

No, it does not. Not by a long shot.

And that's what these Chinese clones are. Some other phone operating system, but with an iPhone-looking homescreen/menu.

So much of what the iPhone is about, is more than just the look of the case, and the look of the main menu (although both are nice). It's about the functionality of the applications. Mobile Safari simply can't be beat, and you won't find anything close to that in one of these clone phones.

Given your repeated references to cost and affordability, I'm going to take a guess here and wonder if the iPhone is a bit outside your means at the moment? If so, my opinion is to save up for a couple months, then switch to AT&T and get a new phone for doing so (like a Blackjack II or something), sell that on eBay, and then buy the iPhone using the money you made on the subsidized handset from AT&T. You can bring the cost of the iPhone down considerably using this method, and will no longer be pondering these knockoffs.

Posted by: Doctor Whom

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

This is the reason why a topic like this is so important, a discussion between "actual" users of the Apple IPhone and those "wishing" to be included in the Iconic-filled world of the IPhone...but because of financial means, unable to fully join the club~!

Who honestly believes that the "Iconic-filled world" is the only advantage of the iPhone? I've been in the "Iconic-filled world" since the Treo 300. Appearance doesn't translate into functionality; remember those "sports" cars from the eighties that were basically economy cars with sporty-looking bodies?

Posted by: spikefromnyc

Amazing~!

The last few comments have restored my faith in "discussion-type" communications (and not just "fanboy" gang-ups!)

matthewc1---Thanks for the "affirmation" that US bandwidth use: 850/1900mHz---"the" only problem is, majority of the clones distibute the 900/1800/1900mHz phones for American markets (with 850mHz LISTED as an "optional support"...which does not work!)---this "mistake" can ruin newbie buyers faith in receiving a Online purchase that will work!

deadtorights and toomer---THANKS for the Links, guys--"different" looks on the same subject...is much appreciated!

pryncearif and Silent Witness---Thanks for the warnings!...true, "every" product cannot fully guarantee that it will work coming "out of the box", but this does not stop the consumer from buying! (just not from the same manufacturer)

This Is Bida---Financial means does stop this consumer from buying an Apple, but it is because they have history of not making their products "affordable" for all consumers, so this does leave a gap in the market--for the cloners to feast, and "buying" an Unlocked is "more" expensive than buying "new"! (example: eBay - $450 to $900 unlocks) and I already have an AT&T GoPhone account (with "yet to arrive" $20 phone) with 300mins, 3000nights&weekend- and their "Apple-like" Unlimited MediaNet....just waiting for the IMOBILE purchase!

Hey Guys, I know these Chinese IPhones are "not up to snuff" as the original, but you have to wonder "why don't I see consumers complaining" about their purchased cloners with their Online sellers....I have accounts with: eBay, iOffer.com; etc, and they are the main portals for the cloner market, and trust me, I have "never" seen (and in their "ratings" profiles) anyone say they purchased: Duds, Blow-ups or Dead after 30 days comments....and if you go to YouTube, you will see 200-400 videos on those that have bought cloners, showing us their opinions and how too: work them, Hack them; etc~!

So, you have to wonder......

I will definitely keep you guys posted on my IMOBILE purchase (due to arrive onshore in next week!)

Thanks for all of your inputs....Let's keep them coming~!

Posted by: CL55

Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would want a clone... Having an iPhone clone is like buying an 323i and sticking a M3 patch on it. You get the look (maybe) but not the engine where it truely matters.

I'm not an Apple fanboy, I have one iPod and an iPhone, that's all the Apple I have (although I have a MB Air on order). My last Apple before those was the Apple IIe, and I've been always a WM guy. The reason for the switch is mainly the smooth OS/UI, I can listen to music while reading an eBook and even text message at the same time. But with my previous WM6 devices, which advertised to be multi-tasking device would just stalls if I do the same.

iPhone in general is just so much more stable than any of the WM device, I can go on without ever reseting it. WM6 at the best required me to reset once a week to make it usable again.. And price? If you're familiar with WM devices, they often goes for $600 upwards! And where I'm at, iPhone is only priced as a mid-range cell phone.

Majority of the cloner are based on WM, or even Chinese OS, stability asides, I wouldn't even touch one just coz of my respect for copyrights. Buying a clone iPhone is even worst than the M/AMG posers, at least they're the correct brands just with the fake patch.. I can see if you can accept a iPhone clone, you can also accept LV/Gucci knockoffs. Well, I guess to each their own...

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

I will definitely keep you guys posted on my IMOBILE purchase (due to arrive onshore in next week!)

Thanks for all of your inputs....Let's keep them coming~!

Enjoy your not-an-iPhone-but-in-an-iPhone-style-body purchase! By all means, tell us how your experiences go ...

Posted by: dsigma6

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Originally Posted by spikefromnyc

Hmmm...

You're dumber than an donkeys ****.

The only "clones" that look as good as the iPhone are the actual screen shots of a real iPhone. They're garbage. Have you held one in your hand? Go to China town and look at the crap they peddle. Same thing.

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

How can you tell a real Iphone from a fake??

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

How can you tell a real Iphone from a fake??

How can you tell a real Iphone from a fake??????????

Posted by: dsigma6

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

How can you tell a real Iphone from a fake??????????

According to Dildo Baggins (spikefromnyc), it doesn't even matter!

Posted by: pryncearif

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

How can you tell a real Iphone from a fake??????????

look back on page 1 of this thread, or google iphone clone and iphone in their images section

Posted by: AlphaTeam

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Originally Posted by dsigma6

Don't you effing dare.

Buy the knock offs! Support the Chinese clones!

Posted by: iphone_jared

CL55 brought up the best point. M3 Badge on a 323ci is stupid and "hood rich". I have made this statement many times, if you want an M3, go out and earn one. Don't buy a 323 and "pimp" it out to look like one that lacks any performance. If all you care about it looks then buy an iphone knock off. I have briefly used Windows Mobile, and I can't stand it. My iphone is awesome. Got off subject there a little, the main thing is that you really do get what you pay for. I am really happy with my Iphone, it is truely great.

Posted by: dsigma6

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Originally Posted by AlphaTeam

Buy the knock offs! Support the Chinese clones!

Boooooo!!!

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Originally Posted by iphone_jared

Ok, I clearly see the point CL55 tried to make. But we're talking about something Apple made, and something crappy made in China. Not about a BMW looking like another BMW. That's still a nice car either way. The chinese iPhone knockoffs are not.

I do agree though, that people that do that stuff with cars should be baked at 450 degrees for 6 hours. Rotate halfway through.

Posted by: free_gas

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Originally Posted by iphone_jared

CL55 brought up the best point. M3 Badge on a 323ci is stupid and "hood rich". I have made this statement many times, if you want an M3, go out and earn one. Don't buy a 323 and "pimp" it out to look like one that lacks any performance. If all you care about it looks then buy an iphone knock off. I have briefly used Windows Mobile, and I can't stand it. My iphone is awesome. Got off subject there a little, the main thing is that you really do get what you pay for. I am really happy with my Iphone, it is truely great.

In this day and age as long as the car is rear wheel drive and not front wheel sporting an "SS" badge

I give you props

,

(...unless the guy next to you at the gas station is in a Bugatti Veyron, that car makes all other cars in the immediate vicinity invisible)

But I would buy a clone if I saw one in a gadget shop for ~$100, even up to $200...

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1319144

Posted by: Fishbulb2020

Anybody that buys a clone will get what they paid for.
Everyone knows this, even all of the jealous anti-iPhone trolls that constantly bombard this forum.

If I couldn't afford an iPhone right now, I'd just use a cheap flip phone while I saved the money for one. Clones aren't the answer. The Star Wars prequels can attest to that.

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

YEs but HOW do you tell a fake from the real thing??????????

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

YEs but HOW do you tell a fake from the real thing??????????

Are you serious???

You must be, you posted that twice.

...sigh...

Ok. Real iPhones - come from AT&T stores, and Apple stores.

Anywhere else (eBay/CL), you're taking your chances. Most auctions are probably legit, but some probably are not.

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by toomer

What about China as someone said they are made here???

Posted by: Perry

They look pretty close, better than the 1st gen clones I have seen locally.

I took over someone's contract and got his iPhone cheap. I don't think the marekt is going to support these inflated prices much longer. There will be a million grey market iPhones available soon when the 3G version comes out.

Posted by: Perry

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

YEs but HOW do you tell a fake from the real thing??????????

Plug it into your PC and see what iTunes does.

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by Perry

Plug it into your PC and see what iTunes does.

Thats not very clear
if I do that what happens with a fake???
What happens with the real thing??

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by Perry

They look pretty close, better than the 1st gen clones I have seen locally.

I took over someone's contract and got his iPhone cheap. I don't think the marekt is going to support these inflated prices much longer. There will be a million grey market iPhones available soon when the 3G version comes out.

When is the 3g coming out?

Posted by: free_gas

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

When is the 3g coming out?

Feb 14 6pm

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by free_gas

Feb 14 6pm

I think your joking
I think its late May or Early June 2008

I hope the battery is good too and hope they put more features in like the top phones to give ore value then it will be one hot phone to buy specially if it comes out unlocked

Posted by: free_gas

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

I think you are joking...

Posted by: chinese_fury

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Originally Posted by dsigma6

Boooooo!!!

BMW's are made in China these days, BMW openned a plant in Shanghai to serve the China market. Imagine that?

Posted by: Silent Witness

Real iPhones are 'manufactured' from China. Even my phone is made from there, along with my iPod n many of my gaming consoles like Wii & PS3. The point is not if China can make it look identical. DUH! The parts are assembled there! Most users are also paying for the UI n experience, not just the looks. Not all Apple fanboys are that shallow! Is the Mac Book Air selling well just for being thin?

Posted by: AlphaTeam

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

YEs but HOW do you tell a fake from the real thing??????????

Well if it's got MMS, you can add contacts while calling ,and it's unlocked you know you bought the fake one.

Posted by: iphone_jared

While you are right, a bmw is a bmw, there is a WORLD of difference between the power and awesomeness of the M3 and the 323. Off subject. Sorry

Posted by: dsigma6

I understand that plenty of good stuff is made in China, but we're clearly talking about the cheap, unregulated Chinese aftermarket.

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by Silent Witness

Real iPhones are 'manufactured' from China. Even my phone is made from there, along with my iPod n many of my gaming consoles like Wii & PS3. The point is not if China can make it look identical. DUH! The parts are assembled there! Most users are also paying for the UI n experience, not just the looks. Not all Apple fanboys are that shallow! Is the Mac Book Air selling well just for being thin?

Yes but which factories in which cities make the original Iphones????

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

Yes but which factories in which cities make the original Iphones????

How on earth would any of us know that? We're not Apple ...

Instead of asking single line questions, maybe you could tell us what you have in mind and people could give you some more definitive answers? I would guess that you're in China, you're looking to buy an iPhone, but since it's not available directly from Apple there, or from a carrier there, you want to make sure you don't get ripped off with a clone? Am I close? If so, I have no idea why you would be wondering which cities iPhones or clones are manufactured in ....

Posted by: free_gas

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Originally Posted by toomer

Probably planning to Rob the place

Posted by: smoochysquirrel

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Originally Posted by toomer

Yup, Yup and Yup

And I am sure some people know where the factories are wher ethey make the authentic Iphone but don't want to help us.

Posted by: free_gas

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Originally Posted by smoochysquirrel

Yup, Yup and Yup

And I am sure some people know where the factories are wher ethey make the authentic Iphone but don't want to help us.

So If you do find an apple production facility, what are your intentions?

Do you plan to stroll in there with a shopping bag?

Posted by: toomer

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Originally Posted by free_gas

So If you do find an apple production facility, what are your intentions?

Do you plan to stroll in there with a shopping bag? or hang around the entrance like a strbucks, waiting to see if anyone coming out of the plant can hook you up?

Yeah, that's what I don't get.

Squirrel - how does knowing which factory real iPhones come from help you in any way? You can not just walk in and buy one. And I doubt many people retailing legit iPhones know anything more about where they come from beyond "...from Apple" anyway.

So how are you helped by knowing?

Your questions are still puzzling me. Tell you what, let's make this easier - because your questions make my head hurt. If you want an iPhone in China, find an eBay listing who will ship to your location and is asking the price you want. When you have a link to the auction, post it here in a new thread with a "Is this a legit iPhone auction?" title or something, and give us the link. We'll look, and we'll let you know if it's real or a fake (at least, what is being advertised in the auction - the seller may still pull a switcheroo on you).