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DoCoMo P905i & SH905i
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Posted by: pchan0

Should we have a new thread for this phone?

So we can use a PSS SIM or HYPER SIM for these Docomo phones? In Toronto, Canada okay?

Thanks.

Posted by: White Comet

I think its just the SH905i that can be used in Europe/Asia. I'm not sure about North America. The issue was that the SH905i couldn't automatically lockon to signal towers, hence there will be no reception once you get out of a default tower range and then manually select another tower.

I don't think the P905i can be used...not the PSS sim for sure, but something like a 877 card o.O

Posted by: AL9999

All 905i phones will work in North America... they'll connect using the 3G 850 band.

Posted by: pocky

So it HAS to connect to a 3G network?

Posted by: Maikurukun

Yes. there is no GSM on the SH905I.
So does that mean.. a rarer phone will be available in Toronto...
lol SH905I is so much cooler than anything we got from Softbank..

Posted by: yangj08

It's the SH905iTV that has no GSM, not the SH905i. Look at http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/product/...ming/index.html for a list of which models have GSM and which don't.

I find it interesting that certain phones sold internationally have had the GSM stripped out when sold in Japan- the M702iS, and the L705iX, for instance.

Posted by: crg_zinger1

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL9999

All 905i phones will work in North America... they'll connect using the 3G 850 band.

so wait, why wont they connect to regular GSM for t-mobile and cingular?

are you saying that they "HAVE" to connect to 3G 8050 band only?

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by crg_zinger1

so wait, why wont they connect to regular GSM for t-mobile and cingular?

are you saying that they "HAVE" to connect to 3G 8050 band only?

Some models don't have GSM. Those are 2100/850MHz 3G. Thus, they connect by the only network band available- 850MHz 3G. The disadvantage here is that some areas have 1900MHz only. GSM-capable models are 900/1800/1900MHz GSM as well as the 2100/850MHz 3G, so they can fall back on GSM in areas without 3G coverage.

Posted by: crg_zinger1

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

then if that is the case, how do you know which sh905i (not sh905itv) can you get? i mean, the sh905i has different models and builds? they have a sh905i version that supports GSM and another sh905i version that DO support GSM?

clearly, if i want to use the sh905i id want the one which can work with t-mobile GSM... so the question is how will i know if i ever try to order one?

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by crg_zinger1

There is only one kind of SH905i. There are different colors, but they all support GSM.

Posted by: pocky

So pretty much.. SH905i HAS GSM capabilities. While the SH905iTV does NOT.

Good info, since I'm on T-Mobile....Good ol' 1900mhz GSM.......... *buries himself on Yahoo Japan Auctions looking for SH905i*

Posted by: lamplighter

I have been trying to make sense of this thread and can not so will just ask.
Is somebody saying that these Docomo mobiles can be used outside of Japan ??
Does this include the amazing Mitsubishi D905i also ?? Can this be used in N.Z. ?

Cheers, LL-

Posted by: yangj08

Yes. Certain PSS-SIM lookalikes work with DoCoMo phones. From what I've seen one that's known to work is labeled with "China3GP". I'm not sure how it works exactly, but I've read quite a few stories now of people and how they got their P905i and SH905i phones to work (only a couple mention the 877 card, aka "cloned SIM"- most people got a PSS SIM/Hyper SIM/something like it).

If you live somewhere with good 3G coverage, though (does NZ count?) get yourself a 903i or 904i phone instead, they're cheaper.

Posted by: lamplighter

Cheers for the information yang...
All the SIM hacks/terms are getting a bit much. I can not keep track of whats happening.
Yes, NZ has solid 3G coverage so it would be no problem for me but may just stick with the 911T as it has software unlock so no crazy SIM hacks.

Cheers,LL-

Posted by: pocky

I just recently acquired some China3GP SIM chips today.

The phones are just so expensive..

Posted by: AL9999

While it's mostly been cleared up now, I'm just clarifying that I didn't say the SH905i wouldn't work through GSM. I just said that it would work through the 3G 850 band. Assumption is evil.

As Yang says, the normal 905i phones (the ones without any letters after the i) can access both GSM and 3G UMTS networks. They support triband GSM (900/1800/1900) and technically, quad-band 3G (800/850/1700/2100). You can practically merge the 3G 800 (used in Japan) and 850 (used in US) bands together because the so-called 850 band covers the same and larger frequency areas than the so-called 800 band. This is why phones designated only as supporting the 800 band seemingly work in the US on the 850 one. The 3G 1700 band only operates in Japan, while the 3G 2100 band is the well-known one that is used world-wide except in the US/Canada.

In the US, the normal 905i phones will connect through the GSM 1900 band and 3G 850 band. In the case of the SH905iTV, which doesn't have GSM, it will connect through 3G 850 only.

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL9999

While it's mostly been cleared up now, I'm just clarifying that I didn't say the SH905i wouldn't work through GSM. I just said that it would work through the 3G 850 band. Assumption is evil.

Out of curiosity, do you have a map of which parts of the US have 3G 850? I'm quite interested in the SH905iTV and it'd be nice to know where that will work.

Posted by: AL9999

AT&T's coverage map tool is here:
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

Unfortunately they don't break down between 3G 850 and 1900. GSMWorld's coverage tool also combines both frequencies in their maps...

Posted by: Yttrasil

So I know I've been asking this before but never really got a clear answer, the sh905i and the p905i does work yes but is the masts connecting issue still there, and are there any other problems if not? Also does it work with PSS or is that china card thing the thing to get?

Thank you, now it's hard to decide which one to get =)

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yttrasil

So I know I've been asking this before but never really got a clear answer, the sh905i and the p905i does work yes but is the masts connecting issue still there, and are there any other problems if not? Also does it work with PSS or is that china card thing the thing to get?

Thank you, now it's hard to decide which one to get =)

On the Chinese board I go to everyone calls all the SIM-hacks the same thing, so I don't know. The only specific type mentioned was the "China3GP" one so go with that.
The mast issue is mostly resolved. It works fine as long as you either
-never turn off your phone (maybe not that practical)
-turn your phone on and off in the same location (in other words, if you go to bed at night and turn the phone off while recharging, turn it on again before you leave the house, but if you turn it off somewhere else, turn it on there before you leave, but if you turn off your phone somewhere else, turn it on again there).

Posted by: aw614

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocky

I just recently acquired some China3GP SIM chips today.

The phones are just so expensive..

where did you get them? I'd like to try it out...

but 1900 gsm + 1900 and 850..3g, good enough coverage for me on att/cingular.

Posted by: pocky

Quote:

Originally Posted by aw614

where did you get them? I'd like to try it out...

but 1900 gsm + 1900 and 850..3g, good enough coverage for me on att/cingular.

I get them from a local source.

Okay a friend.

Posted by: phonefun

so is it correct that sh905i can be used in canada with fido or rogers?

Posted by: AL9999

On GSM 1900, yes, but only when the thing is unlocked or proved to be working reliably with the SIM hacks floating around now.

Posted by: yangj08

As it stands, it's working. People are working on the "reliable" part.

Of course, people are saying to buy now anyway because once it's figured out prices on (mostly) the (SH/P)905i phones are bound to jump. And if people can't make any further inroads- this mostly works already.

Posted by: AL9999

Yeah I figured they were nearly there, and definitely the prices will jump once it works properly.

Posted by: phonefun

its good to heard that p905i and sh905i can be worked with Fido in Canada.

Now another question: which phone is better in camera? I know that the p905i has 510 cmos camera, what about sh905i? is it ccd or cmos?

Posted by: White Comet

Hmm...seems that there are tradeoffs between the 2 phones in terms on features. I'll just name the different features the phone has...otherwise its the same thing.

Taken from NTT Docomo website

P905i:
262K colors for main screen
5.1MP CMOS camera
Movie Max Frame Rate 30fps
Movie zoom 6x
Picture Max Resolution 2592 x 1944 JPEG
Picture zoom 15x

SH905i:
16.7 million colors main screen
3.2MP CMOS camera
Movie Max framerate 15fps
Movie Zoom max 15x
Max Picture resolution 1536 x 2048 JPEG
Max Picture zoom 24x
NO Bluetooth
NO Voice Recognition

Seems like Sharp has better screen, Panasonic has better camera. No bluetooth is a big (-) for me T_T

The N905i looks pretty good as well, but I don't know if its usable yet. Though, it has no Bluetooth...

Only if the Sharp had an external screen, and a bluetooth function, I'm sold to that one

Posted by: bee

I have tons of China3GP sims, I sell them to people that use them with iPhone....

Posted by: xumdeo

sorry, no external color screen due to cost

and you cannot tell the superiority of a screen from it's specs on paper, the number of color is all BS. they all claim to have special technologies themselves, ASV, IPS, AMOLED; and then the software tweaking migrated from their TV lines as well: SE Bravia, Toshiba Regza, Panasonic Viera

you'll have to see for yourself in real life.

but from experience, generally panasonic doesn't have the best screens even with the same size same resolution and same "number of reproducible colors",

Posted by: thomas.chung

Has there been any verification that the WCDMA 850Mhz in North America will work for the 905i phones? I know this question is far fetch...

Posted by: Forumng.com

Only HYPER SIM & 877 SIM way to be unlock this phone for the time been..

Posted by: Forumng.com

SH905i = 3G Networks
DoCoMo P905i = 2G Networks

Posted by: AL9999

I haven't seen anyone verify it yet, but on a roaming basis it's 90% likely to work.

Posted by: shungo

the SH905i and SH905iTV can be used with rogers in Canada right?

Posted by: xplicitpin0i

I've seen a student using an SH905i here in Vancouver so I'm pretty sure they'd work on rogers

Posted by: KBoardBox

If they have a GSM radio, they'll work here. Whether we can use a ROGERS SIM with it is a completely different story. If they're roaming with a DoCoMo USIM that's normal.

Posted by: yangj08

Someone should try. It'd be nice to know. I've seen one SH905i already around Shanghai and I'm going to see where I can get one (or hold out for the SO905iCS).

Is the P905i the only 905i phone with Bluetooth?

Posted by: AL9999

It would technically work in Canada on the GSM 1900 band. Once Rogers decides to add 3G 850 to its current 3G 1900 network (last time I checked it's only 3G 1900 in Canada), then the SH905i/iTV would be able to tune that and get 3G access as well.

But yeah, there are still unlocking/SIM hack issues with the DoCoMo Sharps, it's not perfect yet.

Posted by: AL9999

Forgot to mention, P905i and P905iTV are the only 905i phones with Bluetooth. DoCoMo still doesn't see the need to make Bluetooth a standard feature on its phones (despite more and more Japanese wanting it, there's still more Japanese who are happy enough to zip files around using IR instead (and use wired headphones for music/talking I suppose)).

Posted by: yangj08

I wish there was a map of 3G 850 coverage in the States. It would be nice for those who want to buy a cheaper 904i/903i phone instead of any of the new 905i phone (or one of the two 905iTV phones) to see where it would work.

Posted by: johnmoon

Now unlocked version of P905i and Sh905i are all over the web
not really interested in Sh905i still checking with bugs on unlocked P905i, if its not that biggie
(sounds like biggie though) will bring in two sets next week

white and gold, here I come!

Posted by: KBoardBox

Wait, what? The SH905iTV has 850Mhz 3.G!?!?

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

Wait, what? The SH905iTV has 850Mhz 3.G!?!?

Yep. So does pretty much every DoCoMo phone from the 903i (maybe 902iS?) series onwards. Theoretically speaking it should be usable in America, but 850MHz is (apparently) the secondary frequency for 3G development so it's not everywhere (well, everywhere meaning the 3G coverage area in America as a whole).

Posted by: htdma

Hello Sharp Howard Forums!
Nice to meet everyone.
Have SH905i now been unlocked with the PSS SIM? I am in Japan, but I have a friend in USA and he asked me about it but I do not know about it.
Thank you for the information.

Posted by: johnmoon

sh905i got no bluetooth, that was BIG NONONONONONO for me
why no bt.. even my 2 yrs old nokia has one

(well japanese still prefer IR I guess)

Posted by: riel

johnmoon, why do you always get two handsets at a time? Is it because it's my birthday soon?

SH905i is so damn hot. Hope the price drops.

Posted by: phonefun

anyone knows if sh904i can be unlocked? looks like sh904i has better camera than sh905i

Posted by: htdma

There's no need for bluetooth here in Japan really. IR is fine for swapping contacts and we normally use a card reader if we need photos to a PC - but we normally just show on the phone.

Posted by: riel

I use my phones' Bluetooth primarily to transfer songs in mp3 format to other peoples' phones or vice versa.

Seeing as how Japanese phones do not support mp3, and use smaller file formats, IR is logical. Camera pictures might take awhile depending on the resolution, but IR will suffice.

But my main problem with IR is the limited range as opposed to Bluetooth.

Posted by: htdma

I agree with Mr. Riel.
If you want to send photo you do not use IR because camera is too good

We use card reader or just show them on the screen of phone.

Posted by: Ishimaru

I haven't seen a single place to buy the SH905i at all

Since the 920SH doesn't support US 3G, I'd have to get the 905i instead, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells it.

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by htdma

I agree with Mr. Riel.
If you want to send photo you do not use IR because camera is too good

We use card reader or just show them on the screen of phone.

Oh so THAT'S why Japanese phones have such huge screens!

Posted by: KBoardBox

Holy cow working NA 3G-bands?!?!?!? Why wasn't I told this earlier! My honeymoon with SoftBank is over...hahahah

BT is a must though. Gotta use a headset when I drive! And A2DP...so much better than getting strangled by wires.

Posted by: AL9999

The Japanese 3G 800 band has been on FOMA phones since approx. the 901iS series, so you'd be hard pressed to get a FOMA phone now without that support.

Just keep one thing in mind, using such phones to connect to AT&T's 3G network on the US 850 band isn't guaranteed, because the bands are technically different. US 3G 850 band is 3GPP UMTS Band V, while Japan 3G 800 band is 3GPP UMTS Band VI.

US 3G 850 Band V - Tx: 826.4 - 846.6 MHz, Rx: 871.4 - 891.6 MHz
JP 3G 800 Band VI - Tx: 832.4 - 837.6 MHz, Rx: 877.4 - 882.6 MHz

As you can see, Band VI sits within Band V, which is why for practical purposes the DoCoMo phones supporting the 800 band should work in the US. However, the SH905iTV is the only 905i phone (and the only FOMA phone that I've seen so far) that the FCC has actually certified to definitely work on the US 850 band.

So as Yang says, you're only going to know by trying the phone out yourself.

Posted by: johnmoon

SH905i confirmed software unlocked so its 100% functional except sms / gprs
forget P905i, sick of Hyper / PSS
apprently its been out for few days and the unlocker do not want to sell his work

contacting him still so will let you guys know how it goes
(NO BT / NO USB, but microsd will do I guess)

Posted by: wolvorine4424

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL9999

The Japanese 3G 800 band has been on FOMA phones since approx. the 901iS series, so you'd be hard pressed to get a FOMA phone now without that support.

Just keep one thing in mind, using such phones to connect to AT&T's 3G network on the US 850 band isn't guaranteed, because the bands are technically different. US 3G 850 band is 3GPP UMTS Band V, while Japan 3G 800 band is 3GPP UMTS Band VI.

US 3G 850 Band V - Tx: 826.4 - 846.6 MHz, Rx: 871.4 - 891.6 MHz
JP 3G 800 Band VI - Tx: 832.4 - 837.6 MHz, Rx: 877.4 - 882.6 MHz

As you can see, Band VI sits within Band V, which is why for practical purposes the DoCoMo phones supporting the 800 band should work in the US. However, the SH905iTV is the only 905i phone (and the only FOMA phone that I've seen so far) that the FCC has actually certified to definitely work on the US 850 band.

So as Yang says, you're only going to know by trying the phone out yourself.

Thanks AL9999, That is something I did not know about... The bands and coresponding frequency...

Posted by: johnmoon

wolvorine4424: hows your foma project going dude?
looks very interesting, not putting any inputs since I got no idea about those
but checking it everyday

wish you good luck

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

SH905i confirmed software unlocked so its 100% functional except sms / gprs
forget P905i, sick of Hyper / PSS
apprently its been out for few days and the unlocker do not want to sell his work

contacting him still so will let you guys know how it goes
(NO BT / NO USB, but microsd will do I guess)

wait- software unlock? That's great! How about the rest of the 905i series? Sucks that the unlocker doesn't want to sell it, though.

Posted by: seibufan

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Bummer that sms isn't fully functional.

Posted by: SumWereNSilence

That phone is beautiful, i just wish it wasnt so much money

Posted by: johnmoon

yangj08: yeah pictures all up with him unlocking his SH905i
couldnt believe my eyes too, even those Jerry or other veteran unlockers
inc hyper sim / pss sim team dont even know about this one at all

looks like hes only providing this unlocking to few people close to him
(supporter i guess, Japanese phone sponsers) and stll working on P905

he also said after this, will move to other 905i's...

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

yangj08: yeah pictures all up with him unlocking his SH905i
couldnt believe my eyes too, even those Jerry or other veteran unlockers
inc hyper sim / pss sim team dont even know about this one at all

looks like hes only providing this unlocking to few people close to him
(supporter i guess, Japanese phone sponsers) and stll working on P905

he also said after this, will move to other 905i's...

Any reason why this unlocker won't share with the general public?

And everything works, right? No tower-switching issues (PSS SIM is nearly there, but not quite)?

Posted by: johnmoon

yangj08: no tower issure at all, he tested by himself and his supporters so far got no glitch at all using it

think he wants to keep it quiet so docomo doesnt know about it
that way they wont fix/block his back-hole(?)
we will see how it goes hope he releases it so we can buy this handset

Posted by: cta16

Theres someone who has been working on the D905i(Mitsubishi) unlock for quite a while now in the 'Other Manufactures' subforum.

Posted by: kaizoku_san

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

yangj08: no tower issure at all, he tested by himself and his supporters so far got no glitch at all using it

think he wants to keep it quiet so docomo doesnt know about it
that way they wont fix/block his back-hole(?)
we will see how it goes hope he releases it so we can buy this handset

It's a real bummer about the SMS not working.. but be sure to let us know if you find out anything about it. I've been checking all the threads on here, eagerly awaiting to see if this software unlock works out, or even if someone has success with a pss sim.

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

god... my bad guys... sms works perfect...
mms and gprs (sorry) not working

Posted by: kaizoku_san

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

god... my bad guys... sms works perfect...
mms and gprs (sorry) not working

Phew, thank god! I was starting to wonder HOW that makes any sense for SMS and gprs not to work, since SMS doesn't ever connect specifically to DoCoMo's network. Yay!!!

Posted by: KBoardBox

Great...now I have to switch phones, AGAIN?

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

Great...now I have to switch phones, AGAIN?

yeah you can if you are a friend of him

he will soft-unlock your sh905i

Posted by: 4agze

P905i is unlocked but it is not stable yet

Posted by: johnmoon

N905i now unlocked
you heard me rite, and its software unlocked

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

N905i now unlocked
you heard me rite, and its software unlocked

That's great. I sort of want one (I'm indecisive- the whole of the 905i series is like the holy grail of cellphones) but I can't find any examples of photos taken with it. I'd like something with a camera that can print decent 4x6 photos.

But let me guess, not public and we probably won't be getting our hands on it anytime soon, right?

Posted by: riel

Oh damn is it really time to spend money again?

Posted by: KBoardBox

I want a red one if it has Bluetooth....does it?

Posted by: riel

I feel the need to collect 905i's.

Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

N905i now unlocked
you heard me rite, and its software unlocked

This phone is awsome. If it`s true, is there any chance to get one?
My first 3G phone was NEC clamshell, it had one of the best UI I`ve ever seen.

Posted by: riel

So SH905i can get limited connectivity with what sim hacks? At this point I don't care much anymore. If I can call / sms, I'm fine.

That phone is pure poison.

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

I want a red one if it has Bluetooth....does it?

No, Panasonic is still the only maker with a Bluetooth-capable 905i phone. Keep waiting on the P905i if it's important to you.

Oh, and yes, SH905i can call/SMS right now. Be careful about the "limited connectivity" part, though.

Posted by: seibufan

Quote:

Originally Posted by riel

So SH905i can get limited connectivity with what sim hacks? At this point I don't care much anymore. If I can call / sms, I'm fine.

That phone is pure poison.

Completely agree. What's the latest update with p905i?

Posted by: xplicitpin0i

from what I've read in other forums the sh905i and sh905itv can be fully unlocked with any of the sim hacks.. now i'm wondering how can i get my hands on one? other than that extremely overpriced one on ebay..

Posted by: KBoardBox

The SH905iTV is useless though, as it doesn't have GSM.

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

The SH905iTV is useless though, as it doesn't have GSM.

If you live in Europe/Asia, it's a good buy as a 920SH alternative. In NA, though, it's not so smart since 3G coverage is so limited.

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by xplicitpin0i

from what I've read in other forums the sh905i and sh905itv can be fully unlocked with any of the sim hacks..

Are you sure? If that's the case then why're people developing hacks that software-unlocks the phone completely, and not sharing to the public?

On which forum did you read that? Coz if you're right, then WOOHOOOO!

Posted by: aw614

Quote:

Originally Posted by riel

look what happened when the 903sh came out with all the unlocks...

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by riel

Software-unlocking gets rid of all the stability issues, that's why. All the tower-hopping problems originate from the imperfections in the trickery that the PSS/HyperSIM does to fool the phone into thinking it's got a real DoCoMo UIM. A software unlock would get around that.

But for now, yes, most of the SIM-hacks work with DoCoMo phones. If you live somewhere with decent 3G coverage and don't travel much you can save yourself some money by getting one of the 903i or 904i phones instead.

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by aw614

look what happened when the 903sh came out with all the unlocks...

..What? What do you mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

Yeah I know that, but I forgot to differentiate between unlock and software-unlock.

Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

If you live in Europe/Asia, it's a good buy as a 920SH alternative. In NA, though, it's not so smart since 3G coverage is so limited.

Plenty of 3G where I live now...heh

Rogers FTW?

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

Plenty of 3G where I live now...heh

Rogers FTW?

How much of it is 850MHz though? I thought that all of Canada was 1900-only (in terms of 3G).

Posted by: makuu

So...will I be able to use p905i in Vancouver? Do 877 cards work here?
I'll have to decide whether to buy it or not within these 2 days as I have someone to bring it back for me from Japan.

Trying to pick between 920SH and p905i...or do you guys have other suggestions?

Posted by: mac000

Hm... choices
Docomo

Posted by: makuu

p905i sh905i 920sh...

920sh's functions are still locked...
are p905i and sh905i's situations the same? limited usage or what? i was getting confused with the different comments...

p905i seems to be better than the two...but i have to make sure which one will i be able to use in vancouver

i hate this...

Posted by: xplicitpin0i

hmm f905i is lookin pretty nice though..

Posted by: ImPoRt_TuNeR

^^
I agree. That's the one I was looking at. Now as you pointed out earlier....where to purchase?

Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

How much of it is 850MHz though? I thought that all of Canada was 1900-only (in terms of 3G).

That's actually a good question, I'm not entirely sure. I hear it's mostly 850, but I could be wrong. I'll ask my friend who works in the industry.

And makuu, it looks like the P905i and the SH905i don't have any features locked, other than the usual aGPS and GPRS.

Argh, I was so looking forward to a proper 3G exotic phone, but the lack of BT kills it for me and I don't like how the P905i looks lol

Posted by: makuu

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

Oops...by limited usage I meant limited signal...
How can I use P905i here? I heard I have to use a V1 SIM Card, but how do I know if my Fido SIM is V1 or not? Are there other ways?

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

You know, if it's mostly 850MHz you might save yourself a bit of money and see if you like any of the 904i or 903i phones. That could save you a bit of money... or you could look into the P905iTV- it has Bluetooth too.

Posted by: KBoardBox

Just confirmed it, it's all 850Mhz in Vancouver.

I might just look for a 904i with BT...hehe

Or just screw it and get a P905i haha

Posted by: johnmoon

As of now, nothing is stable other than sh905i (confirmed work with PSS SIM)
will be new ver. of hyper sim but not sure when

or be a venturer like me just order them
ordered P905i and sh905i already and will get D905i yellow very soon

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

As of now, nothing is stable other than sh905i (confirmed work with PSS SIM)
will be new ver. of hyper sim but not sure when

or be a venturer like me just order them
ordered P905i and sh905i already and will get D905i yellow very soon

Where'd you order your SH905i from johnmoon?

Posted by: johnmoon

always yahoo auction

Posted by: riel

You have a friend in Japan that can help you get it? Since they don't ship internationally.. or do you use those sites that help you buy it and then ship it?

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by riel

You have a friend in Japan that can help you get it? Since they don't ship internationally.. or do you use those sites that help you buy it and then ship it?

friend

, he hates me so much since Im buying too many stuff

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

friend

, he hates me so much since Im buying too many stuff

If you're gonna buy another SH905i like you did with 920SH, could you lemme know

I'll say this too: if you're gonna sell your SH905i after awhile of playing it, lemme know

Posted by: kaneman

Ok I have access to Yahoo JP auctions but how would i get the thing unlocked? Software available on the 'net? I've googled but haven't found.

Posted by: johnmoon

Cant really order phones other than mine since my friend is doing all this for me
(contacting seller in japanese, payment arrangement and stuff)
Hes a teacher so pretty busy guy thats why I have to wait to get my D905i
(he will leave me if I ask him to buy me one more now)

I will let you guys know on the phones with my pss sim though
if its works then you guys can use 3rd party web to order your sets

have a feeling that sh905i will work with rogers w/ pss sime (most likely)
but for p905i, think either will not work at all or drop signals or some other bugs

Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Holy cow I want the yellow D905i....

But but...no BT...ahhh

Speaking of which, does the P905i have A2DP support?

Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Hi johnmoon,
you wrote that N905i is unlocked with software unlock. Is it true? Does it mean I can use all the features in this phone if I get unlocked one?
Question is, how and where to unlock this phone. I haven`t found a single one on ebay but there is plenty on yahoo JP, probably all locked (can`t read japanese).
This phone is amaizing, I can`t stop looking at the pics of this black-red beauty

Posted by: johnmoon

Kboard: believe P905i got A2DP, I need this feature too bad sh905i got NOTHING!

UncleAllEvil: Its there but can not find it since the creator do not want to release it
his supporter sells the phone for super high price though like 1000CAD if you want it
hes working on his mod' hypersim looks like most of all 905i models will work with it
(sh905i, p905i, n905i, d905i and f905i) but not sure when it will be out

I dont mind wait for it cause it will be out later and so as chinese knock off version at cheapo price
will get it then, lesson learned from PSS SIM

Posted by: johnmoon

D905i
software unlock: NO
hardware unlock: YES, Hypersim mod by Benny (More stable?)

P905i
software unlock: NO
hardware unlock: YES, with Hyper256 / Hypersim mod by Benny (More stable?)

SH905iTV
software unlock: NO
hardware unlock: NOT even halfway (Benny said, avoid it!)

SH905i BEST ONE TO CHOOSE AT THE MOMENT
software unlock: YES (Done by Benny)
hardware unlock: YES, with PSS SIM / Hypersim mod by Benny (No major even minor problems have been found)

SO905i or SO905iCS (Not sure which one but mentioned by Benny)
software unlock: NO
hardware unlock: Halfway with Hyper 256 (call out, sms out but nothing in)

N905i
software unlock: YES (Done by Benny again)
hardware unlock: YES, Hypersim mod by Benny

F905i
software unlock: NO
hardware unlock: YES, Hypersim mod by Benny

With Benny's hypersim
-F905i, P905i, N905i, D905i, SH905i currently testing
-OUT percent reduce to 5%
-SMS in out 95% working
-Calling In Out 98%
-Reconnection tower speed 95% ( 10 sec compared to pervious 20 sec )
*Benny's hypersm is not out for sale yet but it will after all those mad tests to all phones

Posted by: UncleAllEvil

So with hypersim mod by Benny I will be able to use every function of SH905i except network specific (like MMS, internet, games, chat, TV). Video and music player, camera, basic tools (calendar, alarm clock, notepad) sms and calls are working without problem?

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleAllEvil

So with hypersim mod by Benny I will be able to use every function of SH905i except network specific (like MMS, internet, games, chat, TV). Video and music player, camera, basic tools (calendar, alarm clock, notepad) sms and calls are working without problem?

correct

+ You can play games

Posted by: hippoondrugs

wooow thanks for the insight john! =D

Posted by: UncleAllEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

correct

+ You can play games

That`s great news johnmoon, thank you.
But only preinstaled games are playable right?

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by UncleAllEvil

That`s great news johnmoon, thank you.
But only preinstaled games are playable right?

obviously dude unless you go to japan and download bunch of them

Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Kboard: believe P905i got A2DP, I need this feature too bad sh905i got NOTHING!

UncleAllEvil: Its there but can not find it since the creator do not want to release it
his supporter sells the phone for super high price though like 1000CAD if you want it
hes working on his mod' hypersim looks like most of all 905i models will work with it
(sh905i, p905i, n905i, d905i and f905i) but not sure when it will be out

I dont mind wait for it cause it will be out later and so as chinese knock off version at cheapo price
will get it then, lesson learned from PSS SIM

Can't wait then! I just learned that this runs Linux...one more reason to get it.

Time to sell the 920 to save up for a red P905i?

Posted by: EricMammoth

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

SH905i BEST ONE TO CHOOSE AT THE MOMENT
software unlock: YES (Done by Benny)
hardware unlock: YES, with PSS SIM / Hypersim mod by Benny (No major even minor problems have been found)

N905i
software unlock: YES (Done by Benny again)
hardware unlock: YES, Hypersim mod by Benny

Awesome, I didn't know about these models were capable of being unlocked.

So what's the going price of these? Plus I'll be in China for a few weeks next month so do you think I could pick one up there?

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricMammoth

Awesome, I didn't know about these models were capable of being unlocked.

So what's the going price of these? Plus I'll be in China for a few weeks next month so do you think I could pick one up there?

Where in China? If you're going to Shanghai I can help. The average going rate for any of the 905i series sits around 3k-4.5k RMB (dunno what that is in CAD).

BTW- avoid the SO905iCS. The picture quality is nothing like what you'd expect from something bearing the Cyber-shot label.

Posted by: EricMammoth

Quote:

Originally Posted by yangj08

Where in China? If you're going to Shanghai I can help. The average going rate for any of the 905i series sits around 3k-4.5k RMB (dunno what that is in CAD).

Well I'm going with my school so we'll be mainly be doing tours and staying with Rendafuzhong High School. So mainly Beijing and stuff.

Posted by: aw614

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBoardBox

Just confirmed it, it's all 850Mhz in Vancouver.

I might just look for a 904i with BT...hehe

Or just screw it and get a P905i haha

damn your lucky you can go full 3g haha

Posted by: mcg

:O I want a 920SC or SH905i... darnnn... too bad I don't understand JP... can't read a single word off yahoo.co.jp

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricMammoth

Well I'm going with my school so we'll be mainly be doing tours and staying with Rendafuzhong High School. So mainly Beijing and stuff.

Sorry, no one in or around the Beijing area is selling any 905i phones. However, you can get someone to help you sign up for a Taobao (Chinese auction site, lots of 905i phones available) account and buy that way. You'll probably have to have a stable address to ship to, though (some sellers may ship internationally).

Posted by: johnmoon

checked price on sh905i and p905i with few sellers in hk
their price was crazy high, I can buy 2.5 sets in japan for that price

Posted by: KBoardBox

I'm thinking of getting a red P905i right now, but then third party auction services cost a biggish amount too. Hmm....and I haven't seen any red P905i's yet.

Posted by: Manchungster

Thinking of a blue SH905i or maybe a white one. However, the blue ones are more expensive. Price is not too bad overall though, white ones are nice, but blue looks hot.

Posted by: White Comet

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

SH905i BEST ONE TO CHOOSE AT THE MOMENT
software unlock: YES (Done by Benny)
hardware unlock: YES, with PSS SIM / Hypersim mod by Benny (No major even minor problems have been found)

Let me get this right, so the SH905i can be used here in Canada w/o hypersim or any simhacks?? Just like how the 903sh can be used without simhacks?

If that's the case, then its madness...and i just got my 904sh too

Posted by: seibufan

P905i would look like a worthy investment after the kinks are worked out.

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet

It would- if the unlocker would make it public. The world can't force him to make it public, but that doesn't mean thet can't feel frustrated.

Posted by: ImPoRt_TuNeR

Is there a thread or a link to the progress update of this Benny and the sim/hyspersim hacks?

Also just out of curiosity, why do you list the SH905i as the best out of the 905i series? Is it b/c it's fully unlocked? Just wondering b/c I was hoping to pick up the N905i soon and noticed it too seemed to be fully unlocked according to your post.

Actually, are Benny's mods the only ones which work for the N905i? I seem to recall another one which someone posted somewhere, not sure if it was this one or not.

Also has anyone tried ordering from Yahoo Auctions Japan? If so, any experience shipping to North America? (For the few sellers which to ship.) Or does anyone know of any legitimate and reliable proxy service to order from for these Japanese auctions.

Posted by: johnmoon

Kboard: Red P905i will be nice, mine is white

Manchungster: Did not know blue cost more than white (my white and blue are already on its way)
White Comet: Yes, no sim-hack needed for software unlock but he hasn't released it yet *may not release it at all*
Import Tuner: I already put up the latest list

Posted by: Manchungster

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Kboard: Red P905i will be nice, mine is white

Based on looking n yahoo auctions japan, the "hoping Wining Bid" is a over 40,000 for the blue , while the whites are aroung 35000. Plus a lot of the sellers, say the blue is rare compared to the others.

Trying to negotiate for a blue as we speak

Posted by: いいね

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

no sim-hack needed for software unlock but he hasn't released it yet *might not be true*

fixed that for you

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by いいね

fixed that for you

true, until he comes up with video clip

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet

..its madness

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAA

Sorry everytime I see the word "madness" I get excited

I'm really hoping Benny will release the unlock to the public. How would it work though? Would it be something like a program that we'll run, or would it involve having to send him the phone itself?

Posted by: いいね

Quote:

Originally Posted by riel

Would it be something like a program that we'll run, or would it involve having to send him the phone itself?

I would not send my phone to him. He could just sell it on again. Not that I don't trust him - but there's no insurance is there?

Posted by: riel

Quote:

Originally Posted by いいね

I would not send my phone to him. He could just sell it on again. Not that I don't trust him - but there's no insurance is there?

Yeah that's why I was wondering if it was just a software that you install or something.. it'd be too risky sending a phone to this guy.

Posted by: jon_jai

I've been reading all the posts but i just wanna make sure before i ask my friend to buy the phone...

If i buy the SH905i and ebay a PSS SIM and put it in, does it work in Toronto?

OR

I need the PSS SIM mod by Benny in order for the SH905i to work

Thanks!

Posted by: johnmoon

Few Sh905i's are up on ebay now
you guys might want to grab it... price seems pretty good
looks like the seller dont know the phine is fully unlocked now
once he knows im sure he will raise all the way up (I think)
almost everyone who likes JDM phones, want to get this model at the moment

Jon: theres no PSS on ebay you cant not buy it anymore at the moment
for the benny's hypersim its also not available
somebody must take a chance on chinese knock off ones and regular hypersim and let us know
otherwise, no one will never know

Posted by: jon_jai

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Few Sh905i's are up on ebay now
you guys might want to grab it... price seems pretty good
looks like the seller dont know the phine is fully unlocked now
once he knows im sure he will raise all the way up (I think)
almost everyone who likes JDM phones, want to get this model at the moment

Jon: theres no PSS on ebay you cant not buy it anymore at the moment
for the benny's hypersim its also not available
somebody must take a chance on chinese knock off ones and regular hypersim and let us know
otherwise, no one will never know

I wouldn't recommend anyone buying from that poster because if you look at his feelbacks, they're all from 1 cent auctions.
He got 25 positive feedbacks from doing 01 auctions.

I smell a scam.

Dont buy it

Posted by: johnmoon

Jon: I disagree with you
as far as I know hes one super legit seller
how do I know? cause I bought three phones from him so far
He got few IDs and got scammed by someone in europe with his last user ID
bought my SH905i blue from him like 10 hrs ago and its already shipped
*Always super fast shipping with free straps

I can always let you guys know know once I get my phone but price will go up

Ive been talking to him through Email so I know he is HIM

well dont take your chance man if doubt it

Posted by: jon_jai

I'm just judging by his feedbacks

Im not too worry about how im gonna get the phone..
I worry about how im gonna make it work in Toronto.

Since PSS sim doesn't seem to be available
and we have to wait for Benny and his mods..

I really want the phone
damit -_-

Posted by: johnmoon

jon: I have my PSS

and china fake ones from ebay as well
will let you guys know if the fake one can work with it

Posted by: White Comet

yea...i have teh hypersim knockoff as well...seems like it...hope that works w/ the SH905i

Anyone know how the SH905i compares to the 904sh aside from the obvious larger screen and a newer phone?

And which ebay you guys referring to? I look up SH905i on www.ebay.com and I've only found a black and white from dqn.lol

Posted by: jon_jai

Please let us know john

So i can ask my friend if he can ship some to me.

White: yes, those are the ones

Posted by: mcg

I have been eyeing a lot of phones from this dqn.lol guy for a while now too. But his feedback rating cannot convince me to purchase from him.

There's another seller "japan_camera" which has been selling a couple of Sharps and Samsungs too... his FB is going way up, so I know he is reliable.

Now that John has vouched for this dqn.lol guy, I am having second opinions on purchasing 1... these SH905i's were not there a couple of hours ago... ugh

Posted by: KBoardBox

japan_camera is good, I'm sure, but the prices are a little bit higher.

dqn.LOL? LOL!

Posted by: ImPoRt_TuNeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Import Tuner: I already put up the latest list

Hmm.. are you talking about the list on the previous page regarding the unlock progress of the phones? Or a list of vendors to purchase from? I'm kind of unsure what the list is answering (I think I was asking 2 questions in my post). Hopefully it's a list of vendors, but making one would be a pain I assume.

Posted by: jon_jai

Will this card work??

http://psssim.com/Site/Home-1.html

Posted by: hyolee

Hmm, I'm abit confused here so I hope someone can help clear things out for me.

Does the SH905i have a network connection issue still? I heard people mentioning that it has trouble locking onto towers.

Will it work with Rogers in Ottawa?

Posted by: mcg

OK shiz, I did not expect the dqn.lol guy to accept my offer..

Well, I guess I will tell you guys if I have been scammed in the next few weeks. Wish me luck

. Otherwise if the SH905i arrives, I will definitely post some pictures... let's hope it is the latter situation.

Posted by: frankie

So where did all of you get your PSS sim card? I can't seem to find it everywhere

Posted by: jon_jai

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankie

So where did all of you get your PSS sim card? I can't seem to find it everywhere

i bought one here
http://psssim.com/Site/Home-1.html

Posted by: mcg

Hmm how much did it cost?

Posted by: jon_jai

http://computronic-int.com/Site/PSSSIM-670.html

online promotion $9+ shipping

Posted by: mcg

Wow.

OK I'll order too. If this works with the SH905i then I am all set. Just hope I don't get scammed from this guy.

Edit: nm.. shipping is $15, I can understand if it includes tracking and stuff, but wtf... just for a piece of film.. ugh.. I'll have to think about it since I am unsure if it works with the SH905i or not

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

Isn't that the version for a Iphone o.O

Posted by: mcg

Apparently it looks like it is... I'm pretty confused now as to what SIM is what... there's hypersim, "inex" hypersim, PSS-sim, turbosim, stealth-sim... someone ought to make a guide as to which sim does what

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

Well if it is the pss-sim for the Iphone why would it work on a SH905i >_> I'm totally confused as well.

Posted by: jon_jai

I dont think there's a pss sim specifically for the iPhone.

I bought it anyways since i can't lose..
i can always sell it back out for $20 bucks or something to those who want their iphone to unlock

better than buying it over priced later on when more ppl know about sim unlock for sharp phones

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

lol Okay let us know once you get it. XD

I would get it but selling it back out to some random guy that wants to unlock a Iphone would be too much of a hassle for me >_>

Posted by: jon_jai

yeah i'll let u guys know if it'll work
but first i gotta wait for my friend in japan to go online

god dammm

Posted by: mcg

if I ever do get my SH905i... do you want to try sticking the PSS-SIM in?? lol if it works I'm buying one

Posted by: jon_jai

if you meet up with me, i don't mind letting u try it : )

i live near STC

Posted by: mcg

Lol good stuff, I hope it arrives safely at least, and that I don't get jipped - once it arrives we can meet up.

Otherwise if johnmoon gets his first and can try it with you, then we can get a quicker answer

Posted by: jon_jai

yeahh johnmoon has a pss sim.. i dunno if he has the same one as the one i ordered .

i wonder if its the same as this one

http://homepage.mac.com/martinirwin...i/large-11.html

Posted by: mcg

Hmm in that case it would be this one:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/PSS-sim-To-unloc...1QQcmdZViewItem

Going for ~$60-65 shipped... big difference if you ask me.

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

thats the one from the original pss-sim site o.o
http://pss-sim.com/shop/

Posted by: jon_jai

I think that one works...
as seen in the picture

Posted by: mcg

Yeah that one from the official site looks like johnmoon's... he showed it to me when we meet up and it had the microchip in the top center portion of the film. He had it working with his 920SC.

Since the PSS-SIM works with sharp phones, and presumably SH905i is made by sharp, lets hope it's a positive result when the foma's come.

...but damn... $125 USD... I don't think I even need a wallet anymore

Posted by: jon_jai

hahahaa!!

If you have the phone, let me know and try the one that i'll be getting first
if it doesn't then order the other one.

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

the one on the pss-sim.com is out of stock so you can't get it even if you wanted to >_<

Posted by: mcg

Haha oh...wow..

alright, when the phone does come, i'll try it on jon's then.

I'm still in the process of asking the dqn guy questions.. although the i've won the auction...havent paid yet. just making sure he is the real deal as johnmoon pointed out

Posted by: johnmoon

mcg: dude hes real man just take my word for it
dont waste time on him he might send second offer to others

Posted by: mcg

i will pay him, but i am asking him in regards to a charger for the phone, if he has one i will try to combine the shipping.

i know no charger comes with it and i am unsure of which ones are compatible with it. i am waiting for his reply, or unless you can tell me, i will be unable to use the phone if it runs out of juice.

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcg

i will pay him, but i am asking him in regards to a charger for the phone, if he has one i will try to combine the shipping.

i know no charger comes with it and i am unsure of which ones are compatible with it. i am waiting for his reply, or unless you can tell me, i will be unable to use the phone if it runs out of juice.

You will get an answer from him VERY SOON
expect to pay $5 for shipping on charger though for combining

PS. I bought my sh905i blue from him like 13 hrs ago and its already
left japan (tracking number provided as usual)

Posted by: mcg

oh cool, i asked him if it comes with a tracking # too, and if he could top it off with a few free phone straps

i did not see a blue sh905i offered from him, although it was in his set of pics for the black one i bought.

how about a white one? i really wanted that one, black seems a bit too boring, but hell its a SH905i, screen will blow anyone away

by the way, how much was the charger on top of $5 shipping costs? .. one more thing, how long does it usually take for shipments to arrive from Japan.?

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

lol he has a type char phone for sale >_< so expensive and probably can't be used

Posted by: johnmoon

MyLoveForTofu: Thats one nice phone only if its got GSM

I love the charger though Id like to have it for my 920SH hehe

Posted by: MyLoveForTofu

Yea >_> Chars zaku T_T

Posted by: mcg

lol that phone is one heck of a crazy one.

$1000 for that... just way too much :S

Posted by: lkh007

for all of ur info.. 1 of the our singapore member(HWZ) Benny had start selling his reprogramme sim hack for some latest docomo hp..hoho.. JP hp getting interesting~~

Posted by: makuu

http://www.winnipegchinese.com/bbs/...d.php?tid=32782

p905i using rogers wireless...

Posted by: yangj08

Quote:

Originally Posted by makuu

http://www.winnipegchinese.com/bbs/...d.php?tid=32782

p905i using rogers wireless...

$770 for the SH905i seems a bit much... And is it just me or does that SH905iTV sitting in the corner of one of those pictures have a signal?

Posted by: mcg

That IS a lot... I don't think I can imagine dishing out that much $ for a phone.

Posted by: yangj08

That's Winnipeg, though- maybe it's an abnormality and it'll be cheaper in other parts of Canada? (It costs about 2/3 that in China and less in Japan, can shipping really tack that much onto the cost of the phone?)

Posted by: mcg

lol abnormality, hahaha

yeah it is definitely cheaper than that... should be at least.

Posted by: johnmoon

mcg: we shall meet up again once u get your sh905i

will show you my another nice softbank strap hehe

Posted by: mcg

loll sure, i want to see your white one too

i am still waiting on the guy to reply to my shipping combine request for the charger, he is so slow... he's listing all these new phones and not even replying

Posted by: mcg

OK anyways, the guy has replied and I have paid... will let you guys know once it arrives, or "otherwise"

Posted by: johnmoon

mcg: if I dont get it then you wont (I know i will get mine for sure)
mine is already in the plane to canada

this is my fourth phones from this buddy

Posted by: mcg

Lol. I've already placed my trust in him, if I don't get it then so be it. I'll work my *** off in the summer to get the $ back. Just waiting until morning arrives in Japan and he said he'll get the EMS tracking # to me.

That aside, the problem is now which sim-hack to buy. PSS-SIM 3 is too expensive, I am not sure if the iNEX hypersim works with it.

Take a look here: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...:MEWA:IT&ih=010

Not too sure if this one works.

Posted by: wai_lai416

hmm the p905i only works on fido and not rogers?? according to that website

Posted by: johnmoon

Thats hypersim, not sure that will work
theres really no way it will work without trying it
PSS sim was tested by someone who got guts to take his risk
will test my two hacks (PSS / Nexsim) if you know anyone with
Hypersim or Hypersim 256 try to meet up and test it
thats the only way

Posted by: makuu

Quote:

Originally Posted by wai_lai416

hmm the p905i only works on fido and not rogers?? according to that website

on the 4th pic the screen on the phone says rogers though...

Posted by: mcg

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

Thats hypersim, not sure that will work
theres really no way it will work without trying it
PSS sim was tested by someone who got guts to take his risk
will test my two hacks (PSS / Nexsim) if you know anyone with
Hypersim or Hypersim 256 try to meet up and test it
thats the only way

hmm you said someone "had the guts and risk" to try it... is there any danger of trying PSS-SIM on the phone and have it not working? in the end, will the phone get bricked or something? im really clueless as to SIM-hacks right now, just got into the whole business.

Posted by: Saga76

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmoon

definitely let us know if next sim works with ur sh905i. That would save a lot of us some 50-60 bucks. thanks in advance.

Posted by: johnmoon

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcg

lol you misundertood me, it wont effect anything to phone but
you might end up getting $500 paper weight

Posted by: mcg

lol from what you are saying, I guess if the "wrong" PSS-SIM is inserted, it will brick the phone. (i dont think the SH905i is heavy enough to be a paper weight

)

I might as well wait for the definitive SIM-hack solution to be verified before buying one then

Posted by: KBoardBox

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcg

lol from what you are saying, I guess if the "wrong" PSS-SIM is inserted, it will brick the phone. (i dont think the SH905i is heavy enough to be a paper weight

)

I might as well wait for the definitive SIM-hack solution to be verified before buying one then

Does that apply to the P905i as well? I can't read that Winnipeg site, somebody translate? And the SH905iTV should work fine here or anywhere with 850mhz HSDPA. The FCC approved it after all.

Posted by: mcg

Perhaps it applies to the P905i as well.

I am not exactly sure how these SIM-hacks work, but it seems like a mediator where it "fools" the phone into thinking you have the appropriate SIM that it is locked to. In other words, converting the information retrieved from the SIM to what the phone requires for it to be fully operational.