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Rumor: Apple is to launch 3G iPhone Feb

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Posted by: bangali

i think the article is based on all the all the events that is oing on with apple.Sound somewhat logical to me. Any other thought/s??

http://hotcellularphone.com/apple/r...ne-on-26th-feb/

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One Apple site also reports that the company that does the television at Apple events is hiring for a big event later in the month, while two other blogs are talking-up an event scheduled for 26th February. As well as the expected SDK, Penryn-based MacBook Pros with multi-touch trackpads have been hotly tipped to launch very soon, while a 3G iPhone is also rumoured after this week’s news that AT&T are rolling out more 3G coverage in the States



Posted by: thenamcam

after using apple products for over 25 years, it is very hard to "guess" what is coming next!


Posted by: mech9t5

i doubt 3g will be coming at the end of the month. they just released the 16gb.

if they launch now they would have to price it at $599 (minimum)!! and it is already proven that the iphone is NOT worth that price (hence the $200 discount at the beginning).


Posted by: XFF

3G iPhone is very likely to be launched this year, but not this month. 3rd or 4th quarter if you ask me.

Also, AT&T doesn't deploy/expand 3G just for the iPhone. I've read several press releases linking the 3G expansion to the iPhone, but they're obviously overlooking the existence of other 3G devices already available.


Posted by: Eug

The rumour is really just that Apple is having an event on Feb. 26. However, there is no info as to what is going to be announced then (if that rumour is even true).

SPECULATION has been various things, including a 3G iPhone.


Posted by: MDAUSER99

More than likely, the rumored event is to release the SDK, announce several "official" development projects that have already been seeded and to release 1.1.4...which will likely break the hacks yet again.


Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDAUSER99
More than likely, the rumored event is to release the SDK, announce several "official" development projects that have already been seeded and to release 1.1.4...which will likely break the hacks yet again.
This is what I would imagine it is, as it would correlate with past info given by Apple for the SDK release around February.

An iPhone with 3G released now would kill sales of the other models (including the recently released 16GB model). Not a smart marketing move at all...


Posted by: skafia

I need something new/different! Everyone has an iPhone now!


Posted by: rennyn

I sincerely doubt it'll be the 3G iphone. After the price drop fiasco I can't see them releasing the 16GB iPhone followed by the 3G one a couple weeks later.


Posted by: Jayden0606

I wouldn't put it passed Steve and Apple to do such a thing. If you think about it, it will be another three weeks after the 16gb was dropped. That = more $$$ as a lot of users will be out of the 14 day return policy. Highly unlikely, but possible. I do think they may announce the 3g version.

Also AT&T is taking 3G seriously because of the iPhone. Just as they did with their EDGE network. Not only to ensure EDGE was everywhere, but to increase speeds a little. The 3G network was originally said to be pretty much all of the U.S. by the end of '07. That didn't happen.


Posted by: cowboy1964

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Originally Posted by mech9t5
and it is already proven that the iphone is NOT worth that price (hence the $200 discount at the beginning).


Well it obviously was worth the full price at the beginning considering how many were sold. The price drop came months later.


Posted by: fincher

No question the event is the 'official' release of the SDK, though a select few vendors are rumored to already have the SDK. The advent of approved third-party apps is going to be a boon to the platform. Looking forward to it.


Posted by: mrcrispin

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Originally Posted by Jayden0606
Also AT&T is taking 3G seriously because of the iPhone. Just as they did with their EDGE network. Not only to ensure EDGE was everywhere, but to increase speeds a little.

I doubt that very much.

AT&T has far more commercial data customers than iPhone users, and we use the EDGE and 3G networks for far greater volumes of data than iPhone. I am one of these, but only because the laptop in question has an EDGE modem built in. I use Verizon's 3G network for voice.

We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids, because all the money you're paying for your relatively-minimal EDGE access helps keep our rates lower and is helping get AT&T's 3G network built. I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.

Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.

The same thing happened in the past with CDPD. Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD, but at one point it went for a whopping $.05/KB. When the GPRS network (later EDGE) came along, AT&T starting selling flat rate CDPD accounts for $50/month to squeeze the last little bit of revenue from that infrastructure before they shut it down.

The good news for you iPhone kids is that AT&T has no real reason to keep you off the 3G network since it's cheaper to serve 3G than EDGE. Plus, your modest usage with iPhone won't affect the commercial data users.


Posted by: fincher

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.


Actually, the data traffic via the iPhone is extremely high. Nothing modest about it.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9584_22-6226955.html

Obviously, the iPhone is not for you. In fact, its not for me yet but likely will be several months down the road.


Posted by: nexteldude930

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that very much.

AT&T has far more commercial data customers than iPhone users, and we use the EDGE and 3G networks for far greater volumes of data than iPhone. I am one of these, but only because the laptop in question has an EDGE modem built in. I use Verizon's 3G network for voice.

We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids, because all the money you're paying for your relatively-minimal EDGE access helps keep our rates lower and is helping get AT&T's 3G network built. I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.

Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.

The same thing happened in the past with CDPD. Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD, but at one point it went for a whopping $.05/KB. When the GPRS network (later EDGE) came along, AT&T starting selling flat rate CDPD accounts for $50/month to squeeze the last little bit of revenue from that infrastructure before they shut it down.

The good news for you iPhone kids is that AT&T has no real reason to keep you off the 3G network since it's cheaper to serve 3G than EDGE. Plus, your modest usage with iPhone won't affect the commercial data users.


Why do you insist on saying "kids?" iPhone owners are not children you pompous ***.


Posted by: Haas_Dave

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that very much.

AT&T has far more commercial data customers than iPhone users, and we use the EDGE and 3G networks for far greater volumes of data than iPhone. I am one of these, but only because the laptop in question has an EDGE modem built in. I use Verizon's 3G network for voice.

We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids, because all the money you're paying for your relatively-minimal EDGE access helps keep our rates lower and is helping get AT&T's 3G network built. I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.

Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.

The same thing happened in the past with CDPD. Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD, but at one point it went for a whopping $.05/KB. When the GPRS network (later EDGE) came along, AT&T starting selling flat rate CDPD accounts for $50/month to squeeze the last little bit of revenue from that infrastructure before they shut it down.

The good news for you iPhone kids is that AT&T has no real reason to keep you off the 3G network since it's cheaper to serve 3G than EDGE. Plus, your modest usage with iPhone won't affect the commercial data users.
The kids comment is just flaming to happen...

There are tons of phones that can be tethered and are by AT&T's standards 'normal phones' and can use cheap MediaMax unlimited plans.

As for network use, it may not be as much as it could with 3G, but with the SDK and jailbreaking there is a lot of streaming and active data heavy apps that have come down the pipe or can real soon (for example there have been methods to tether). I can already tell you that these options have and will change the face of data use on the iPhone.
What makes this bad, Apple wants iPhone users to use the EDGE/GPRS network as well as wifi for data and they force a data plan on customers.

I have reached in the GB before with solely EDGE on my iPhone (using MBs at a time), and having a 3G iPhone I know I use it more to use network-heavy apps and possibly tether. (I do already on my Blackjack at times.)
I know many consumers that use hundreds of MBs of data on a daily basis. We may be a small group, but we still use a lot of bandwidth.


Posted by: Eckono

Not sure if a 3G iPhone will becoming so soon, but I'm pretty sure it will be here before the end of the year. I think AT&T will be on apple as well to come out with as many iPhones as possible within their 5 year contract. Because you know whenever Sprint and Verizon get an iPhone its going to be fully loaded with whatever technonlogy is available at that time. ATT is going to want to be caught up with what ever is going to be released on the other networks.


Posted by: murdoc158

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that very much.

AT&T has far more commercial data customers than iPhone users, and we use the EDGE and 3G networks for far greater volumes of data than iPhone. I am one of these, but only because the laptop in question has an EDGE modem built in. I use Verizon's 3G network for voice.

We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids, because all the money you're paying for your relatively-minimal EDGE access helps keep our rates lower and is helping get AT&T's 3G network built. I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.

Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.

The same thing happened in the past with CDPD. Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD, but at one point it went for a whopping $.05/KB. When the GPRS network (later EDGE) came along, AT&T starting selling flat rate CDPD accounts for $50/month to squeeze the last little bit of revenue from that infrastructure before they shut it down.

The good news for you iPhone kids is that AT&T has no real reason to keep you off the 3G network since it's cheaper to serve 3G than EDGE. Plus, your modest usage with iPhone won't affect the commercial data users.


You're right, I hardly ever use EDGE. There is enough free Wi-Fi that I never need to use EDGE.


Posted by: Jayden0606

You can doubt it, but I do work for them and that was the literature within at&t that was passed around when the iPhone was first coming out. Now it's going to happen with the 3G iPhone.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that very much.

AT&T has far more commercial data customers than iPhone users, and we use the EDGE and 3G networks for far greater volumes of data than iPhone. I am one of these, but only because the laptop in question has an EDGE modem built in. I use Verizon's 3G network for voice.

We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids, because all the money you're paying for your relatively-minimal EDGE access helps keep our rates lower and is helping get AT&T's 3G network built. I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.

Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.

The same thing happened in the past with CDPD. Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD, but at one point it went for a whopping $.05/KB. When the GPRS network (later EDGE) came along, AT&T starting selling flat rate CDPD accounts for $50/month to squeeze the last little bit of revenue from that infrastructure before they shut it down.

The good news for you iPhone kids is that AT&T has no real reason to keep you off the 3G network since it's cheaper to serve 3G than EDGE. Plus, your modest usage with iPhone won't affect the commercial data users.



Posted by: bluevtec

I was in the apple store tonight and asked the guy about when 3g was going tobe available and he said he heard that it has been pushed back but didn't really say for how long.


Posted by: toomer

Good lord Crispin, could you be any more condescending?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids


Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month


Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD


Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
The good news for you iPhone kids


Why don't you take your high horse, and ride on out of here, mmmmkay?

(and BTW - my first modem was a 300 baud Anderson Jacobson acoustic coupler - http://www.gateman.com/museum/images/ajacob.jpg - so we ain't all "kids" around here, punk)


Posted by: mrcrispin

Quote:
Originally Posted by toomer
Good lord Crispin, could you be any more condescending?

One of the earmarks of a cult toy is how defensive its acolytes get.

Perhaps not kids in biological age, but kids in behavior. It is a sad need to validate oneself by paying a premium for a "designer" product that is more about appearance than substance.

Get a grip.

You'll get your 3G iToy in due time, certainly before the battery needs to be replaced on your current one. What you won't get is universal recognition that you have "the best".


Posted by: MDAUSER99

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
It is a sad need to validate oneself by paying a premium for a "designer" product that is more about appearance than substance.

Get a grip.

You'll get your 3G iToy in due time, certainly before the battery needs to be replaced on your current one. What you won't get is universal recognition that you have "the best".


Mark, it's even sadder that you find the need to validate your own choices by denigrating the economic choices made by others. Really, I'd expect better social behavior from someone as accomplished as you appear to be. Are you hurting inside so badly that you must assert yourself by poking fun at others on an internet forum for having fun with their gadgets?


Posted by: nexteldude930

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
One of the earmarks of a cult toy is how defensive its acolytes get.

Perhaps not kids in biological age, but kids in behavior. It is a sad need to validate oneself by paying a premium for a "designer" product that is more about appearance than substance.

Get a grip.

You'll get your 3G iToy in due time, certainly before the battery needs to be replaced on your current one. What you won't get is universal recognition that you have "the best".

Yes, because we know your Motorola Z6c is the standard for excellence in the cellular technology industry.

You are just a pompous ***, plain and simple.


Posted by: toomer

Quote:
Originally Posted by MDAUSER99
Mark, it's even sadder that you find the need to validate your own choices by denigrating the economic choices made by others.


Well put!

Just denigrating the economic choices of others - for any reason - is rather petty to begin with. But then to make the rather large leap of faith that the reason an entire group of phone owners have done it is solely for "designer" image status, instead of "substance", is taking a rather prejudiced view.

Then again, this is the same tired old discussions we see time and time again from WM users, Symbian users, and RIM users that frequent here (although surprisingly, the RIM users seem to be the better of the bunch) telling us iPhone owners, in the iPhone forum, why our phones are clearly inferior.

Yet I don't see the iPhone owners going into the Symbian, WM, RIM forums and starting such childish trolling. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not looking for your "universal recognition that [we] have 'the best'" as you put it. And anyone who needs such validation about their phone, should probably seek professional counseling.


Posted by: bigmike20

the 3G IPhone won't come out so soon. That february date is for the SDK release.


Posted by: rockwallca

No way, no how is Apple going to release the iPhone 3G phone in Feb. I would expect them to release it in June. The just released the iPhone 16GB this past week. That's not the way Apple does thing.


Posted by: GregGebhardt

The person I know at AT&T says that the iPhone is not moving well. They have so many unsold units that if the come out with the 3G model, they would have to give the other iPhone away for free!


Posted by: Phreakish

Quote:
Originally Posted by GregGebhardt
The person I know at AT&T says that the iPhone is not moving well. They have so many unsold units that if the come out with the 3G model, they would have to give the other iPhone away for free!


While I don't disagree, Apple is known to pull stock without any remorse or second thought.
The G5 towers got a new chip one month before new Intel models came out. Same story with the iMacs and even the old eMacs.
The premium we pay for Apple products seems to offset the "waste" stock of Apple products to the point where they don't seem to worry about replacing a model line without "emptying" their stock first.

Fact is, Apple has always been hard to predict and I doubt this will cease to be the case with their phone department.

Guess we'll see.


Posted by: paul34

Please stay on topic or else we'll have to close this discussion down.


Posted by: 2saints

I'll say Sept.-Oct. of this year.


Posted by: pfreitas

I have to agree. Maybe in the summer buy who knows. Honestly, it isn't with it to me unless they offer it with at least 32gigs


Posted by: 2saints

I'm itching to get another iPhone but with the rumor price cut on the 16GB and the 3G coming later this year it's killing me. Lucky I've got the N810 to keep me busy for another couple of days, LMAO.


Posted by: affenpinscher

Clearly not until at least the 1st anniversary of the iPhone launch!


Posted by: garsgadgets

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that very much.

AT&T has far more commercial data customers than iPhone users, and we use the EDGE and 3G networks for far greater volumes of data than iPhone. I am one of these, but only because the laptop in question has an EDGE modem built in. I use Verizon's 3G network for voice.

We're actually pretty grateful to you iPhone kids, because all the money you're paying for your relatively-minimal EDGE access helps keep our rates lower and is helping get AT&T's 3G network built. I doubt that the typical iPhone kid uses more than a couple of MB a month, whereas people like me use a dozen or so MB in a single session.

Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.

The same thing happened in the past with CDPD. Some of you young'uns may not remember CDPD, but at one point it went for a whopping $.05/KB. When the GPRS network (later EDGE) came along, AT&T starting selling flat rate CDPD accounts for $50/month to squeeze the last little bit of revenue from that infrastructure before they shut it down.

The good news for you iPhone kids is that AT&T has no real reason to keep you off the 3G network since it's cheaper to serve 3G than EDGE. Plus, your modest usage with iPhone won't affect the commercial data users.


I was 70 years old on my last birthday. It's been eons since I was last referred to as a "Kid". I am not a heavy data user but I do text my Grandson quite a bit. He is a real Kid and covets my iPhone. I love the gadgetry hence my screen name. I think children of all ages enjoy using the iPhone for all different reasons. Thanks for the history lesson.


Posted by: The Paradox

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Originally Posted by mrcrispin
Some of you young'uns


Bitter old hag


Posted by: oompah

I think the 3G version will launch on the first anniversary (June 27) of the iPhone.


Posted by: oompah

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Paradox
Bitter old hag

You're an idiot.


Posted by: nexteldude930

Quote:
Originally Posted by oompah
I think the 3G version will launch on the first anniversary (June 27) of the iPhone.


Quote:
Originally Posted by oompah
You're an idiot.


Way to show your ignorance. It was June 29th, so YOU are the idiot.


Posted by: davistld01

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Originally Posted by The Paradox
Bitter old hag






Posted by: 2saints

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Originally Posted by davistld01



That picture is funny as hell.


Posted by: nfl46

I wouldn't be surprised! I bet everyone would be in total shocked if the 3g iPhone was released next week...People would break their contracts trying to get it = more money for Apple, lol.


Posted by: msb3079

"iphone kids"

hahaha i almost never post on this forum, bad had to publicly laugh at that. what a fool.


Posted by: 4phun

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcrispin
I doubt that very much.



Of course, our data plans are more expensive than the iPhone data plans. But if you've wondered why your iPhone can't tether to a laptop (and won't ever), now you know why. That's what our plans do.


Interesting post, flat wrong but that is to be expected I guess.

Anyone with a little effort can tether a laptop to an iPhone and use the iPhone data connection. Personally I don't know who would want to do such a thing but it would be better than the Verizon 1G RX data connection like I used to use during severe weather a few years ago. That way you could have My-Cast radar and storm spotting on your laptop out on a large construction project or something similar. That was my application.

Anyway do a little research and you will see how to tether a laptop to an iPhone and the AT&T 2.5G EDGE network.
It is one of the applications for a jailbroken iPhone.

Ki4je
Ham Radio - severe weather spotter for National Weather Service


Posted by: dkunzman

I really cannot see a launch of a 3G iphone in the US till after they hit Europe and Japan where the market literally demands it.

Pouring more water into an already flooded market makes little sense when there is other serious markets 3G is a better fit in....

3G? 2008? not likely!




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